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BEANCOUNTER
post Dec 14 2018, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 14 2018, 09:37 AM)
Anybody has tried the "friendly" way, eg giving the ex-owner a sum of 5k or something for him to quit, or find him a new rental location and pay him his initial deposit+first month rental ?

Would it work or would it make thing worse (he might ask for more ) ?
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that what i was saying rite from the begining, Lelong properties are not for newbie or 1st time home owners. there are so many things that could go wrong. yet you often hear ppl here say 'wait for lelong units then go sapu'.

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post Dec 14 2018, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(Lance XIII @ Dec 14 2018, 09:48 AM)
May I know what is the legal method that one can take after the 6 months? Sorry if i misunderstood
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legal letter after legal letter after legal letter, sue owner in court, get court injunction and to have the company of police officer to take possession of the unit.

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post Dec 14 2018, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(Lance XIII @ Dec 14 2018, 09:48 AM)
May I know what is the legal method that one can take after the 6 months? Sorry if i misunderstood
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What I meant was legal way including written notice + police report + court order to evict tenant takes at least 6 months
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post Dec 14 2018, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(hoongling @ Dec 14 2018, 11:43 AM)
Wah I want to be your tenant and then buat-buat tak mahu pindah leh...
Some illegal ways include cutting water electricity or change padlocks. Although I knew some who went on to do more extreme ways, I never recommend any illegal steps though
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if any one the tenants companion is on life support machine that needed electricity, by cutting electricity, you will be charged for murder.

change padlock, who knows if you locked some young child in the house still and the tenant unable to reach out to him and give him needed medication on time? you will also be charged for murder.

dont need to talk about other more extreme method.

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post Dec 14 2018, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(hoongling @ Dec 14 2018, 11:43 AM)
Wah I want to be your tenant and then buat-buat tak mahu pindah leh...
Some illegal ways include cutting water electricity or change padlocks. Although I knew some who went on to do more extreme ways, I never recommend any illegal steps though
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I am not suggesting you do it to the tenant. Tenant, if any, should still be bound by lease tenancy agreement.

I am talking about evicting the former owner. If you waste 6 months plus lawyers fees and what not, it is more than 5k.
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post Dec 14 2018, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 14 2018, 11:54 AM)
I am not suggesting you do it to the tenant. Tenant, if any, should still be bound by lease tenancy agreement.

I am talking about evicting the former owner. If you waste 6 months plus lawyers fees and what not, it is more than 5k.
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taiko, dun be naïve lah,,,,,,

you think everyone abide by the lease tenancy agreement meh? if everyone is so law abiding, there is no need court in Malaysia already.


you think all these previous owners still have the RIGHT to live in their sold homes meh? by any interpretation of laws?
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post Dec 14 2018, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 14 2018, 11:58 AM)
taiko, dun be naïve lah,,,,,,

you think everyone abide by the lease tenancy agreement meh? if everyone is so law abiding, there is no need court in Malaysia already.
you think all these previous owners still have the RIGHT to live in their sold homes meh? by any interpretation of laws?
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We know the former owner has no right. But if you do the properly legal way, you would lose more time and money.
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post Dec 14 2018, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 14 2018, 12:01 PM)
We know the former owner has no right. But if you do the properly legal way, you would lose more time and money.
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plan b : get the underworld involved.

just like the indian templer case in USJ. everything will go quietly and unnoticeably.
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post Dec 14 2018, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 14 2018, 12:04 PM)
plan b : get the underworld involved.

just like the indian templer case in USJ. everything will go quietly and unnoticeably.
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Here my presumption is people want to do the proper legal way, and this an alternative.

If people want to do the underworld and illegal ways, of course it will appear very funny to some more give money for the former owner to go away.

And we should treat the tenant and former owner differently.

The tenant is likely still having a ongoing lease. We should honour until it is finished.

But the former owner is someone bankrupt or about to bankrupt. You don't to corner a dog and drive it to jump the wall.

This post has been edited by puchongite: Dec 14 2018, 12:15 PM
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post Dec 14 2018, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 14 2018, 12:15 PM)
Here my presumption is people want to do the proper legal way, and this an alternative.

If people want to do the underworld and illegal ways, of course it will appear very funny to some more give money for the former owner to go away.

And we should treat the tenant and former owner differently.

The tenant is likely still having a ongoing lease. We should honour until it is finished.

But the former owner is someone bankrupt or about to bankrupt. You don't to corner a dog and drive it to jump the wall.
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taiko,

i really dun understand where you are coming from.

are you in support or not in support of underworlds ways of handle things?
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post Dec 14 2018, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 14 2018, 12:20 PM)
taiko,

i really dun understand where you are coming from.

are you in support or not in support of underworlds ways of handle things?
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I am not stating my position.

I am offering an alternative to people who want to do the proper legal way.

For me, i will go talk to him and read the situation correctly first.

The underworld way is last in the list. Unlikely I will use it.
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post Dec 14 2018, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 14 2018, 11:51 AM)
if any one the tenants companion is on life support machine that needed electricity, by cutting electricity, you will be charged for murder.

change padlock, who knows if you locked some young child in the house still and the tenant unable to reach out to him and give him needed medication on time? you will also be charged for murder.

dont need to talk about other more extreme method.
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That's what I said "illegal ways"
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post Dec 14 2018, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(hoongling @ Dec 14 2018, 12:28 PM)
That's what I said "illegal ways"
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The illegal way the results can be unpredictable. LOL.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 14 2018, 11:54 AM)
I am not suggesting you do it to the tenant. Tenant, if any, should still be bound by lease tenancy agreement.

I am talking about evicting the former owner. If you waste 6 months plus lawyers fees and what not, it is more than 5k.
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As i mention earlier, is the same chasing out non-paying-rent-tenant and chasing out ex-owner still occupying the house.
The legal process is the same.
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post Dec 14 2018, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Dec 14 2018, 12:47 PM)
As i mention earlier, is the same chasing out non-paying-rent-tenant and chasing out ex-owner still occupying the house.
The legal process is the same.
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Legally the same. But for me, my recommendation is to handle them differently using different options. Presumably you have got a value for money for the bid, that will allow you to have a little more leeway for a softer approach.
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post Dec 16 2018, 02:52 AM

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Let's say once successfully bid and transfer title, can we proceed to tnb to change the account name then request to cancel the electricity? Technically the title and tnb account is under my name.

Hence the alien residing inside considered as break in and tress passing. Any comments this way?
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post Dec 16 2018, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(cms @ Dec 16 2018, 02:52 AM)
Let's say once successfully bid and transfer title, can we proceed to tnb to change the account name then request to cancel the electricity? Technically the title and tnb account is under my name.

Hence the alien residing inside considered as break in and tress passing. Any comments this way?
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technically you still need a police report n court injunction to evict the trepassers.

and knowingly terminate the utilities when there are people in the premises will only attract more lawsuits from either previious owner or tenant.
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post Dec 16 2018, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 16 2018, 09:50 AM)
technically you still need a police report n court injunction to evict the trepassers.

and knowingly terminate the utilities when there are people in the premises will only attract more lawsuits from either previious owner or tenant.
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Presume only or real case?
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 16 2018, 09:50 AM)
technically you still need a police report n court injunction to evict the trepassers.

and knowingly terminate the utilities when there are people in the premises will only attract more lawsuits from either previious owner or tenant.
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Hmm interesting info....
The first part I know..

But the second one...
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 16 2018, 09:50 AM)
technically you still need a police report n court injunction to evict the trepassers.

and knowingly terminate the utilities when there are people in the premises will only attract more lawsuits from either previious owner or tenant.
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There are some service apartment (commercial land title, water under the management control) imposing water cut & access card blocking to units with outstanding of xxx amount.
Never heard of any cases / report of the management body being sued yet by doing such action.

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