There is a difference. Utility suppliers have a standard procedure for cutting supply if bill is outstanding for x amount or x months. Eg TNB has to send numerous letters before that can cut the electricity.

Here you are short circuiting the procedure. Eg you cut his supply due to him not paying rental. The notice and other conditions where the supplies is cut is not fully served yet.

My example clearly stated water for service apartment under the management control.
Yes notice or warning will be served to the unit of course before hand to settle the outstanding bill.

So comparing your example versus you cut the electricity of trespasser/former owner/non rental paying tenant, there is a difference, you had not served the notice.

The lady in the video 1years nvr pay rent. So confident somemore... very headache

Please you are talking about other stuff here.
Please read back first the point of discussion, which is regarding this statement:
and knowingly terminate the utilities when there are people in the premises will only attract more lawsuits from either previious owner or tenant.

and my question:
There are some service apartment (commercial land title, water under the management control) imposing water cut & access card blocking to units with outstanding of xxx amount.
Never heard of any cases / report of the management body being sued yet by doing such action.

and I added:
My example clearly stated water for service apartment under the management control.
Yes notice or warning will be served to the unit of course before hand to settle the outstanding bill.

I think the bold is taken too literally and thus, out of context.

BEANCOUNTER's reply was made against someone coming out of the idea of immediately wanting to cut the electricity supply upon having the title under his name.

So there are other conditions not fully spelt out in the bold.

In the first place, landlord cutting supply is not the same as utility companies cutting supply.

Do we as landlord already know exactly what conditions must be met first before cutting the supply, knowing there is someone in the house ?

In conclusion as mention above, some service apartment imposing this strict method. Yes they are the utility company in this context here as water is under their control.

Outstanding bill/ notice of course being issued out to all units as usual.
Yes units still with occupants residing inside.
Warning of water disconnect and access card barring on XX date will be posted in the lift / notice board.

So yes to your question. Water will be cut even with ppl inside.
Usually reconnection /reactivate will be charged as well.
Some if rented out their units. Tenant pay water bill promptly but still water will be cut coz the landlord didnt settle the maintenance fees.

However didnt heard of any cases that any management got sue by doing that yet.

Nobody sues does not mean it is legal.

A quick search came out with this case, I think it is India (?)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thehindu.c...365324.ece/amp/

thank you, you read my mind

perhaps next time when we quoted anything, better refer to the section and subsection of particular law.

taiko there was one case in Malaysia, last few years.....landlord cut the electricity supply with policeman present, I think.

and the tenant claimed that his sick father required some electricity medical device for life support (or something similar). it made it to the news. don't know anyone got sue boh….

ask any lawyers, they will advise you to FOLLOW THE LAW. Water and Electricity are two most important supplies for habitants in the abode.

That's why my example is true genuine few service apartment practising cutting access of water and barring access card of residents. Yes ppl still staying inside.

So far no case being sued towards the management by doing that.

The laws concerning the cutting of utilities are different for these entities :-

(A) utility companies, (B) strata management, © landlord.

According to this article, it is illegal for condo management to cut water for not paying maintenance fees.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nst.com.my/node/414218/amp

Joint Management Body can't cut water supply of defaulters

Act 757 simply does not have the power.

But the author doesn't appear to be a lawyer.

There are two areas here i think

Outstanding management fee
Outstanding water bill

I think management might be able to cut water supply (might only ok) if owner default in payment of monthly water charges

There shouldnt be the case where arrued mght fee give power to mght office to cut water.
Carpark access yes

This post has been edited by BEANCOUNTER: Dec 16 2018, 10:47 PM

Yes if owner continue to own water bill and maintenance fee

But two are not mutually inclusive or exchangaeble.
Strata title act is powerful.

So if i am owner of a lelonged property, all i need to do is continue to pay my fee and water bill to keep occupying the property....lai sie there...

But one forumer did raise a valid question. If new owner took over the title and regustered as new owner, wouldnt the jmb need to recogmised this by registrer the new owner?
Then the new owner purposely dun pay the water bill so that the mght will cut kau the water supply.....forcefully nake whoecer stay inside the unit to get out.

Or cancel the access card as the rightful owner.

Tis on definitely can.

Air dan api more critical. No one can live in an apartment without these

It would then appear that evicting a former owner who refused to move out isn't too difficult in strata management properties.

Why would whether the unit is vacant or not still an issue of in auction properties ? Maybe for landed prop the former owner can try to stay put and not move out.

your method cannot pakai la. landlord normally ask tenant own go pay the bill. so not matter who go pay the money, management still will take it. malaysia is popular with DONATION without name

Water bill....tenant pays
Maintenance fee....landlord pays

So easier fior landlord ask mght to cancer parking card and lift access.

But we also talked abt previous owner of a lelong popety
If he still in the house despite unit being lelong.

that blue shirt fellow should hang the card on the ceiling, easy, hand not tiring