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post Sep 27 2017, 10:27 AM, updated 8y ago

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Founded 15 March 1892; 125 years ago
Ground Anfield
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Congratz on the new thread!

A new Liverpool this weekend perhaps? innocent.gif
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QUOTE(youngy @ Sep 27 2017, 10:32 AM)
Congratz on the new thread!

A new Liverpool this weekend perhaps?  innocent.gif
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Yes, against Rafa as our 4 away game trip come to an end. Hope it ended with positive result.
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actually my question is this, how long would it take for klopp to finally eat the humble pie and admit his mistake? or would he follow wenger way, stubbornly repeating his mistake over and over again while making the board happy with $$$.

issue during br era but still exist now
1) gk - mignolet is good but the rotation is not. i never heard of a team rotate 3 different gks...liverpool must be the 1st
2) defensive issue - nothing to talk really, everyone can see this issue from miles away apart from klopp
3) corner and set piece - no coutinho, no goals. i'm still rating taa goal as a fluke until he can do it consistently
4) converting chances - we did improve alot on this but it came back from the last few recent matches. dont think is a big issue, just hope it wont continue
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Sep 27 2017, 10:36 AM)
actually my question is this, how long would it take for klopp to finally eat the humble pie and admit his mistake? or would he follow wenger way, stubbornly repeating his mistake over and over again while making the board happy with $$$.

issue during br era but still exist now
1) gk - mignolet is good but the rotation is not. i never heard of a team rotate 3 different gks...liverpool must be the 1st
2) defensive issue - nothing to talk really, everyone can see this issue from miles away apart from klopp
3) corner and set piece - no coutinho, no goals. i'm still rating taa goal as a fluke until he can do it consistently
4) converting chances - we did improve alot on this but it came back from the last few recent matches. dont think is a big issue, just hope it wont continue
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check his BVB records. Did he ever eat any humble pie there before joining us? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Sep 27 2017, 10:36 AM)
actually my question is this, how long would it take for klopp to finally eat the humble pie and admit his mistake? or would he follow wenger way, stubbornly repeating his mistake over and over again while making the board happy with $$$.

issue during br era but still exist now
1) gk - mignolet is good but the rotation is not. i never heard of a team rotate 3 different gks...liverpool must be the 1st
2) defensive issue - nothing to talk really, everyone can see this issue from miles away apart from klopp
3) corner and set piece - no coutinho, no goals. i'm still rating taa goal as a fluke until he can do it consistently
4) converting chances - we did improve alot on this but it came back from the last few recent matches. dont think is a big issue, just hope it wont continue
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Somehow the Spatak GK was in god mode,
In fact, most of the GK turns to god mode when facing us bangwall.gif

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With regards to our performance this morning:

1) Attacking - We all know we dont have problems up front bar the biggest one of all = converting chances. And we have always had this problem ever since Suarez left. Creating chances is pointless if we dont convert them. Teams going against us create 1-2 chances and score 50% of those. Which brings us to the next item: Defending.

2) Defending - week in week out, same shit, different opponent. Our last clean sheet? vs. Arsenal.

3) Corners & Set Pieces - Coutinho's corners are not so good but his free kick is bar none, the best in the team - no one else comes even close to his free kicks.

with the goal, I felt Karius could have done better... too rooted to his spot.


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QUOTE(jacckl @ Sep 27 2017, 10:36 AM)
actually my question is this, how long would it take for klopp to finally eat the humble pie and admit his mistake? or would he follow wenger way, stubbornly repeating his mistake over and over again while making the board happy with $$$.

issue during br era but still exist now
1) gk - mignolet is good but the rotation is not. i never heard of a team rotate 3 different gks...liverpool must be the 1st
2) defensive issue - nothing to talk really, everyone can see this issue from miles away apart from klopp
3) corner and set piece - no coutinho, no goals. i'm still rating taa goal as a fluke until he can do it consistently
4) converting chances - we did improve alot on this but it came back from the last few recent matches. dont think is a big issue, just hope it wont continue
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I have already made up my mind, he is the 2nd coming of wenger, just prefer a different brand of football. At least in terms of stubbornness and blind faith in players.
Not so bad considering Wenger did win a few league titles, until u realize that he hasnt won it for 13 years, and only won it in his "formative years". The similarities are really alarming.
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After couple of season we can see already we cant win title with gegenpressing (what more with average set of players we have at our disposal lmao), especially in EPL. Something drastic needs to be done by our fuhrer or he is simply gonna meet the axe next year.

But knowing Klopp, he is one dimension stubborn genius, live or die by his gegenpressing. doh.gif
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QUOTE(TheRealist @ Sep 27 2017, 11:35 AM)
The difference is also that Wenger is able to compete on a shoestring budget. Whereelse, it's clear in this session enough that Klopp has spent big.
Also  notice that Wenger could have won a few times in the past 13 years if not for certain incidents happening.
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I dont think that's a difference, more of a similarity. Dortmund run on a buy low sell high model when he led them to two titles. He left because he was annoyed that he was basically nurturing talents for Bayern.
Cant recall Arsenal came close to winning league title after leaving Highbury, well maybe first season in Emirates when they still had Henry. After that, I dont remember they were close by any means?

So anything, more similarities.
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Sep 27 2017, 11:43 AM)
After couple of season we can see already we cant win title with gegenpressing (what more with average set of players we have at our disposal lmao), especially in EPL. Something drastic needs to be done by our fuhrer or he is simply gonna meet the axe next year.

But knowing Klopp, he is one dimension stubborn genius, live or die by his gegenpressing.  doh.gif
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I dont think the style is the problem. Leicester won it on the back of impenetrable defense and counter attacking, and i'm sure we have seen different champions do it their own way. We just have to be absolutely good at what we wanna do, which we arent at the moment. Of course need to have some flexibility or some says real quality when opponents adapt and play the way we dont want them to.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Sep 27 2017, 04:46 AM)
How frustrating is it to watch every Liverpool's game?

Dominate without result.

What a waste of time waking so early in the morning. Sturridge was piss poor. Firmino is not confident.
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Firmino is not consistent enough to be relied upon... world beater in one game and poor display in the next 3 games

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QUOTE(tampinmy @ Sep 27 2017, 10:38 AM)
Somehow the Spatak GK was in god mode,
In fact, most of the GK turns to god mode when facing us bangwall.gif
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How is he god mode when most of our shot goes straight to him? He just have natural reflex to block the ball while standing. Heck even many chances goes wide, he doesnt even need to save it.

Its our conversion that have a big problem. Look at Coutinho, thats what we call converting the chance.
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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Sep 27 2017, 11:52 AM)
I dont think the style is the problem. Leicester won it on the back of impenetrable defense and counter attacking, and i'm sure we have seen different champions do it their own way. We just have to be absolutely good at what we wanna do, which we arent at the moment. Of course need to have some flexibility or some says real quality when opponents adapt and play the way we dont want them to.
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Lei got Kante at that time. He is doing a 2 men job. While our DM is ermm... nvrmind laugh.gif
with our leaderless back 4. no wonder we are leaking goals. No one to protect back 4 & no one to command them. Just hope GK is on god mode. laugh.gif
Just like United last season. countless times DDG save their sorry asses.
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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Sep 27 2017, 12:52 PM)
I dont think the style is the problem. Leicester won it on the back of impenetrable defense and counter attacking, and i'm sure we have seen different champions do it their own way. We just have to be absolutely good at what we wanna do, which we arent at the moment. Of course need to have some flexibility or some says real quality when opponents adapt and play the way we dont want them to.
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Errrm Liverpool supporters prefer attacking than defensive football anytime

Klopp/BR/Kenny >>> Roy/Souness/Rafa
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QUOTE(iguana_dude_619 @ Sep 27 2017, 02:13 PM)
Lei got Kante at that time. He is doing a 2 men job. While our DM is ermm... nvrmind  laugh.gif
with our leaderless back 4. no wonder we are leaking goals. No one to protect back 4 & no one to command them. Just hope GK is on god mode.  laugh.gif
Just like United last season. countless times DDG save their sorry asses.
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Yes, that's why I said the style doesnt matter, only the qualities do.
And we dont actually play with a DM, unless DM stands for deep midfield rather than defensive midfield.
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Sep 27 2017, 02:45 PM)
Errrm Liverpool supporters prefer attacking than defensive football anytime

Klopp/BR/Kenny >>> Roy/Souness/Rafa
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Anyone would choose attacking football over defensive football anytime. Winning football or entertainment football? That's the tough choice.
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even if u play against a attacking team like Barca, PSG or RM u choose attacking would be non logical..
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liverpool remain the only british team without a win in ucl group stage
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Sep 28 2017, 10:18 AM)
liverpool remain the only british team without a win in ucl group stage
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Ah u beat me to it. And it's more than that, all other teams have win both of their games so far doh.gif
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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Sep 28 2017, 10:19 AM)
Ah u beat me to it. And it's more than that, all other teams have win both of their games so far doh.gif
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i mention british, it include brendan rodgers celtic wink.gif
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Sep 28 2017, 10:20 AM)
i mention british, it include brendan rodgers celtic  wink.gif
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Whoops, misread that.. But still, we are now the worst club among those representing the so-called best league in the world doh.gif
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Sep 28 2017, 10:18 AM)
liverpool remain the only british team without a win in ucl group stage
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celtic is the only british team with a loss in the ucl group stage tongue.gif
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So called easy group...
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QUOTE(socratesman @ Sep 28 2017, 05:45 PM)
So called easy group...
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To be honest, it is really the easiest group from the point of view of all 4 teams. laugh.gif

Its just all 4 of us is on the same level.
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Sep 29 2017, 01:52 PM)
To be honest, it is really the easiest group from the point of view of all 4 teams. laugh.gif

Its just all 4 of us is on the same level.
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Klopp's pre-match press conference vs Newcastle United:

On Rafa Benitez
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“Hopefully he remembers that! (Mainz 5-0 LFC) The big success, we met meanwhile 10-15 times in different occasions and it was always really nice. He’s a very interesting person and we always had a good time.

“He’s still connected to the club, and wishes the club all the best - how it should be after his fantastic time here.

“Even in the summer we had talks. I know him better than most of the other PL managers. It’s nice, but no impact on the game!”

“I had the opportunity to watch their game against Brighton,” Klopp added.

“They are a good team, well organised and were unlucky with the goal.”
On Scoring goal
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To make us more clinical? No. There is nothing i could say that would make us finalise all our situations.

But we have to keep on going. Again and again and again. Should I speak about the two headers Roberto and Salah had in Moscow and say ‘if you hit it like this instead...?’

We need to stay confident, and keep doing it. At the moment, our aim is to be better than average. It makes no sense to criticise finishing. It’s about creating and using the qualities of the boys.

It’s my responsibility, but I cannot shoot from the bench!


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I’m not interested in criticism, only the opinion of the people.

If pundits/journalists criticise, that’s their job. If other teams are flying, should we give up and say ‘oh my god, I want to have a season ticket for Manchester Utd?’

I have no problem with criticism, only when people think we cannot sort our problems.

I want to let the people know, we have not lost our football ability overnight.

The Manchester clubs are two fantastic clubs with fantastic managers, I’m sorry to say this. Chelsea, Tottenham, oh my god, Arsenal are on a good way.

All we can do is make our way.
On Ancelloti's sacking
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Not a lot of things in this business can surprise me any more, but I do not know what Bayern’s thoughts were on this decision.

I watched the game with PSG. Individual quality can decide games, and that was how it was.

But it was not one game that the Bayern bosses decided on. I think. It was a kind of development which the Bayern bosses didn't like too much. That's why they took the decision I think, but I have no clue actually.

It is not my business. Carlo is very experienced and hasn’t lost his football ability overnight. If he wants to find a club, he will.


On Christmas Eve match
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Let me say this; if the supporters want to see a game on Christmas Eve, then the TV broadcaster will find a way.

Now I know it is possible, and if something not too cool around fixtures can happen, then Liverpool is involved!

I always said that the broadcaster has to consider that the wonderful thing they sell, depends on the players and the quality and freshness of them. If they have to play 24 Dec, then can we fight against it?

Sky, if they really want to bring the players, the supporters, the people who work for television into work on this night.

It’s no problem for the people to be concentrated on something else other than football on this important night.

Maybe we could play without media? Just one camera!

I really cannot imagine that anyone wants to watch football on that night, but I’m not so important!


On Coutinho
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It’s just good to have him here. We don’t have to talk about how we handled each situation (in the summer), We are professionals and we take it as it is.

We had no idea how he would be after this injury. But he is in a really good shape now.

The team, the others, were really happy when he was back. There were no difficult discussions, we are professional footballers.

Being 100 per cent when the decisions are made, that is the only place to be


On Clyne/Lallana
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“There are no concerns. We have a few knocks, we will see. I’ll know, finally, tomorrow probably,”

“Both [Clyne and Lallana] are doing really well, but they are not in team training.

“With Clyne it was not too sure, but he’s made good steps. For Adam it is completely normal, how we thought it would be.”

“[Lallana] has no problems any more, but we can’t rush in this.”

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Benetiz telling the bitter truth.

Rafa Benitez says he needed money to win Liverpool league


Rafa Benitez said he was denied the chance to win the league at Liverpool
The current Newcastle boss claimed he was not given enough money
Newcastle face Liverpool at St James' Park in the Premier League on Sunday
Rafa Benitez regrets that he was denied the chance to build a dynasty at Liverpool.

Ahead of Sunday's visit to St St James's Park by his former club, Benitez said that he would have been happy to spend the remainder of his career at Anfield after leading Liverpool to their fifth European Champions title in 2005.

But after a change of ownership, the departure of chairman David Moores and chief executive Rick Parry, a disillusioned Benitez left Liverpool in 2010 after six seasons in charge.


Newcastle boss Rafa Benitez says he was denied the chance to win the league with Liverpool


He added: 'Unfortunately that board didn't have the money to compete against the top sides and had to sell. The new owners ran it more as a business than a football club.'

Benitez claims he never had enough money to win the title at Liverpool. 'When I arrived at Liverpool the budget was £20m gross. When I left, it was £17m, but people still said I must win the title. Manchester United had around £50m more every year and then came Chelsea so you were up against massive clubs with massive amounts of money.'

Benitez's ambitions for Newcastle's first season back in the Premier League are modest: securing their place in the division, and despite an early exit from the League Cup, some silverware. 'Can we win trophies? Yes, for sure. It depends on a lot of things but in a cup competition, it can happen.'


Benitez claims he was never given enough money to challenge with the likes of Chelsea

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LIVERPOOL (4-3-3): Mignolet; Gomez, Matip, Lovren, Moreno; Henderson, Wijnaldum, Coutinho; Salah, Sturridge, Mane. Subs: Karius, Klavan, Milner, Can, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Firmino, Solanke.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/footb...gainst-13701109
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So its a home-away situation for gini...will he perform on his former home?
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Struj starts at the expense of Firmino, hopefully we wont miss the latter's work rate too much. Theoretically we shouldnt need that...

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We should be able to crave out a slim WIN.

Lets do it guys !!


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So its a home-away situation for gini...will he perform on his former home?
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Indeed. If there is one away game to start Gini this is it. He will feel right at home at St James' Park.
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50 on target n 1 goal . let's do it.
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This midfield is complete shit. Can't string two passes together.
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Want a corner. Almost seems to go hand in hand as of late...
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Gomez really looks out of sorts today...
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if this continue, we might really need 20-30 shots for a goal
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Coutinho stunner bailing us out again
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Great goal again, Coutinho. Sadly there will be no Barcelona in La Liga soon...
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Again, our defending letting us down.

Caught by the through ball like that.
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If anything, this game so far shows why teams would come in for Cout and why he is in all likelihood would wanna leave us...
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Barcelona come knocking to buy Coutinho soon ?
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I wont blame him for leaving us... given the standard we are playing now.
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It does seems like offside tho from one angle...but hey this guy joselu have been fluffing his shot in every match but its natural that he scores against liverpool lol
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So fucking boring to watch Hendo, Gini and Gomez.

Both Mane and Salah had poor and heavy touches today.

Can someone tell me what is the roles of Gini? He is nowhere to be seen in the middle, often see him at the front asking for the ball, but did absolutely nothing ans remain invisible for most of the time.
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Oct 2 2017, 12:19 AM)
So fucking boring to watch Hendo, Gini and Gomez.

Both Mane and Salah had poor and heavy touches today.

Can someone tell me what is the roles of Gini? He is nowhere to be seen in the middle, often see him at the front asking for the ball, but did absolutely nothing ans remain invisible for most of the time.
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Wijnaldum defenders will point to the excuse that he is a midfielder who recycles possession, the boring invisible cog in the middle. But in truth, he has the least touches among all our midfielders, by a large gap too. So he is not getting his touches in midfield, he is not scoring nor assisting in front, he is not a good defensive midfielder at the back, what does he do really? If all we needed was a body with stamina who can keep pressing we didn't need to spend 25m did we?
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Salah & Mane should be replaced.

Just let So Lanky & the The Ox to pump in the required goals !!!

Do it Klopp

Ya, pls replace Gini with Milner too cause the headless chicken have lost its head too

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Oct 2 2017, 12:23 AM)
Wijnaldum defenders will point to the excuse that he is a midfielder who recycles possession, the boring invisible cog in the middle. But in truth, he has the least touches among all our midfielders, by a large gap too. So he is not getting his touches in midfield, he is not scoring nor assisting in front, he is not a good defensive midfielder at the back, what does he do really? If all we needed was a body with stamina who can keep pressing we didn't need to spend 25m did we?
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I dont see him recycle any balls at all. All i can see today is he keep on stay at the front despite being a midfilder, or was he an attacking midfielder? Did not help out much at the middle nor defensive. Matip often only have Hendo and fullbacks to pass to, a few times he even need to goes to the front to looks for someone to pass to. And to my surprise, its Sturridge who create spaces and receive the ball from Matip, so what is Gini doing actually?
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Offside or not, that really awful defending, just let the striker breezed past through the middle and management say hard to find another better defender in market
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Salah & Mane should be replaced.

Just let So Lanky & the The Ox to pump in the required goals !!!

Do it Klopp

Ya, pls replace Gini with Milner too cause the headless chicken have lost its head too
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QUOTE(digilife @ Oct 2 2017, 12:27 AM)
Salah & Mane should be replaced.

Just let So Lanky & the The Ox to pump in the required goals !!!

Do it Klopp

Ya, pls replace Gini with Milner too cause the headless chicken have lost its head too
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What did i just read... I hope u havent just lost your head too...
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Sturridge drop down too deep because of our non funtional midfield
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My oh my... we really should have buried that...

Struj also losing his lethality in front of goal... doh.gif

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Only this team can miss that goal .... Front is toothless back is ... No idea what's at the back now .
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That should have been another red card right there.. Not sure why he needed to use high leg...
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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Oct 2 2017, 12:47 AM)
That should have been another red card right there.. Not sure why he needed to use high leg...
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Except it wasn't high at all. The ball was barely above knee height. Looked worse because Gomez is much taller than Atsu and Atsu was ducking to head the ball.
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Oct 2 2017, 12:53 AM)
Except it wasn't high at all. The ball was barely above knee height. Looked worse because Gomez is much taller than Atsu and Atsu was ducking to head the ball.
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Now we're not just shit at the back. But all over.

This team is gonna finish the season in 7th and trophyless.

Shame.
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blink.gif Think i would need to see the replay. But Atsu had all the advantage there, he was already there in the first place and Gomez sort of rushing in.
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It is just that Rafa is too awesome lol
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Need just a bit of luck
Since we are shit in all departments lol

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That really looks like a red card... Jumping with a high knee into a player who in all likelihood is gonna win the ball... But meh, I'm not really complaining that;s onlya yellow..
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Cmon someone from Newcastle please make a foul just outside the box please or inside also can
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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Oct 2 2017, 01:14 AM)
That really looks like a red card... Jumping with a high knee into a player who in all likelihood is gonna win the ball... But meh, I'm not really complaining that;s onlya yellow..
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Disagree. His knee was bending and moving away from the player as he tried to control the ball with the side of his foot.
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Wtf is wrong with the midfield
Only matip brings the ball forward, fucking matip
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Hope ox can score..hopefully not into his own team.. Lol
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Oct 2 2017, 01:15 AM)
Disagree. His knee was bending and moving away from the player as he tried to control the ball with the side of his foot.
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The knee did contact with Atsu's head though laugh.gif .. We got away with it this time, other referee might have another idea. But well, let's just agree to disagree.
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1-1 it seems
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1-1 it seems
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QUOTE(Adell G @ Oct 2 2017, 01:16 AM)
Wtf is wrong with the midfield
Only matip brings the ball forward, fucking matip
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No one other than Cout is taking charge and tries to create anything. Just pass it sideways or backwards, like the ball is a poisoned chalice
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Without Coutinho, Salah, Mane and Firmino, Liverpool will be like a small club with that midfield and defense.
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Im losing the reason to watch our games.

Everyone's not even bothering to play.

Mane, Salah, Sturridge, Wijnaldum, Henderson were all lazy.

Matip and Lovren were poor as usual.

Coutinho will be off to Barca in Jan, then we'll start fighting for 8th - 10th.

Losing patience and faith in this team. Two steps forwards, 3 steps back for Klopp and the team.
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We are lucky if this ends 1-1, cant believe I actually typed that since we are actually "dominating" Newcastle
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Klopp is losing the plot perhaps with realization something is wrong with his tactics perhaps
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QUOTE(Adell G @ Oct 2 2017, 01:22 AM)
Klopp is losing the plot perhaps with realization something is wrong with his tactics perhaps
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 2 2017, 01:21 AM)
Im losing the reason to watch our games.

Everyone's not even bothering to play.

Mane, Salah, Sturridge, Wijnaldum, Henderson were all lazy.

Matip and Lovren were poor as usual.

Coutinho will be off to Barca in Jan, then we'll start fighting for 8th - 10th.

Losing patience and faith in this team. Two steps forwards, 3 steps back for Klopp and the team.
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Gini, Hendo, Sturridge are missing...
IMO, Bobby and Solanke came in more impact than earlier minutes.

QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Oct 2 2017, 01:21 AM)
We are lucky if this ends 1-1, cant believe I actually typed that since we are actually "dominating" Newcastle
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Another DOMINATING BUT CANNOT WIN game. Biasa la
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Wtf is wrong with the midfield
Only matip brings the ball forward, fucking matip
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Even captain coward can't do that. Sticking with his "safe passes".
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He is an idiot, now kloop will disappointed him..over rated England player..see the standing..who above ur team..whistling.gif

2 tough epl matches coming next 3weeks...#kloopout..
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Damn Gini with his backpass play. How is he ahead Can in starting lineup
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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Oct 2 2017, 01:23 AM)
Even captain coward can't do that. Sticking with his "safe passes".
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Another draw... this season can bungkus ikat tepi early.
Henderson needs to be dropped. 0% contribution except side and back pass. Defend again is missing. 1 attempt on target and 1 goal scored. Forward keep on missing chances. Midfield is totally rubbish, no support to forward. Wasted my time watching...
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Benitez reveals why he feels Liverpool struggle to compete

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I dont know if we should watch man utd vs liverpool, with the international break, it will be a fucking trainwreck with liverpool on rails

Easily another 5-0 for man utd


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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Oct 2 2017, 01:23 AM)
Even captain coward can't do that. Sticking with his "safe passes".
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QUOTE(cosa @ Oct 2 2017, 01:24 AM)
Damn Gini with his backpass play. How is he ahead Can in starting lineup
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Actually sometimes, like in our case of poor piss defending, it's better to keep it safe than to make forward pass they're unable to and being countered.
Not defending either player, what i mean is u cant expect a donkey to be a horse. We are lacking quality in the middle of the park.
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QUOTE(RO Player @ Oct 2 2017, 01:27 AM)
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U are referring to ur team..who haven't won a single trophy...arsenal won 2 fa cup last 2 season..stop dreaming..thx again for buying ox who slashing his overpaid salary for mid table team..peace
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He is referring to his team
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QUOTE(RO Player @ Oct 2 2017, 01:27 AM)
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U are referring to ur team..who haven't won a single trophy...arsenal won 2 fa cup last 2 season..stop dreaming..thx again for buying ox who slashing his overpaid salary for mid table team..peace
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I'm not disagreeing with you though? We're shit and I pointed out how we haven't won a trophy in years. But he took less money for our bench! Arsenal must be heaven, I'm sure Ozil and Sanchez must be looking forward to extending their stay under the watchful eyes of Wenger and Kroenke.

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Continue to buy British

Continue to buy unknowns hoping that they can turn to be next Messis

Failed to reinforce Defense

Lack of investment from FSG, penny pinching every single deal

True fans trying to justify the club’s refusal to spend on players without rationale and logic just to berdiri tegar

Abusing YNWA and allowing faith to cloud their judgement


Same shyte, different season.Come on , its not like we don’t see this coming, do we?




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QUOTE(RO Player @ Oct 2 2017, 01:31 AM)
I hate over rated ox..piece of sh1t..but he is an idiot for choosing ur team over kote..

Anyway, mine keep on winning, sorry abt ur team form..next few weeks will be nightmare..

I will sell ozil to real or exchange with benzema or acensio,  then pay 350k for sanchez whistling.gif
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"Chill, it's just September... I mean October." <-- this is how true fans must respond biggrin.gif

Twitter having a meltdown right now btw.

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We have to go back in time and not sack Rafa...pleasee
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We have to go back in time and not sack Rafa...pleasee
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Rafa back then got sack after finish 7th and long dispute with the club owner

only if bayern take klopp back to germany...

i dont think current owner will sack klopp...he just signed 6 year deal last season
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QUOTE(Adell G @ Oct 2 2017, 01:27 AM)
I dont know if we should watch man utd vs liverpool, with the international break, it will be a fucking trainwreck with liverpool on rails

Easily another 5-0 for man utd
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Don't think it will be 5-0
Liverpool always in God Mode whenever facing big team


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Don't think it will be 5-0
Liverpool always in God Mode whenever facing big team
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Mane was pointless in last night's game to be honest. Salah looked tired/lazy. Solanke and Firmino did more than Sturridge did.

Since Suarez left, we still havent found our replacement poacher.

So we'll create 20000000000000000 chances and convert only 1. While conceding 12.
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I think Rafa just came up with the template of nullifying our supposed deadly attack. Put 2 man and another ready onto Cout while cut off his forward passing lanes. When he has no choice but to pass to Hendo or the other mid, catch a breather since they cant do shit with the ball. Repeat.
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Shelvey > Hendo and Gini.
Ah well, Hendo and Gini our midfield duo is the shittiest midfield duo i had seen. Ok lar not the shittiest, but definitely very shitty.

Btw on ytd game, Sturridge is struggling, but both Mane and Salah is even worst, especially Mane, he looks like not interested in the game at all.

Gomez oh Gomez, he is there just because we dont even have a proper backup for Clyne, his passing is shit, his crossing is even more shit, I dont even know what the hell he is doing. doh.gif
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Oct 2 2017, 10:36 AM)
Shelvey > Hendo and Gini.
Ah well, Hendo and Gini our midfield duo is the shittiest midfield duo i had seen. Ok lar not the shittiest, but definitely very shitty.

Btw on ytd game, Sturridge is struggling, but both Mane and Salah is even worst, especially Mane, he looks like not interested in the game at all.

Gomez oh Gomez, he is there just because we dont even have a proper backup for Clyne, his passing is shit, his crossing is even more shit, I dont even know what the hell he is doing. doh.gif
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U're right on all counts. Shelvey really looks impressive without losing his head for once. Hendo and Gini really cannot start together, they're basically the same type of player - all indusry, zero creativity.

Struj, well, apart from the gift from Clark, cant really say he is struggling, since we know he's a poacher and doesnt offer much apart from goal. Far from being sharp. Salah & Mane offered really close to nthg ytd, cant rmb they moved to open up lanes for passing even once... Probably too used to Firmino's dummy running to create space instead.

Gomez, u forgot about the borderline red card high knee...

Our CBs, one chance, one goal conceded. Damn, their lack of focus alone would deem them unfit to wear the jersey.

The fact that only Moreno apart from Cout is free from criticism really show how bad we played.

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 2 2017, 09:14 AM)
Mane was pointless in last night's game to be honest. Salah looked tired/lazy. Solanke and Firmino did more than Sturridge did.

Since Suarez left, we still havent found our replacement poacher.

So we'll create 20000000000000000 chances and convert only 1. While conceding 12.
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Lepas, they were left asking the questions when no replacement is found.

Case study now: Phillip Coutinho
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credit to NUFC! they were very discipline all over the pitch. not to mention they do got a little bit of charm with the goal & also not conceding when the players fucked up.

But LFC were torrid to watch. Base on every single match that i watched since early this season, i'm downgrading my expectations on the team. from now on until january transfer window.... i'll be expecting LFC to be in
1. between 5th to 10th in the league
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seriously there is no joy watching LFC played now. after the arsenal game the 'poetry in motion' no longer exist. all too direct. bomb the ball from the back and let forwards chase the lose ball.
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Oct 2 2017, 10:36 AM)
Shelvey > Hendo and Gini.
Ah well, Hendo and Gini our midfield duo is the shittiest midfield duo i had seen. Ok lar not the shittiest, but definitely very shitty.

Btw on ytd game, Sturridge is struggling, but both Mane and Salah is even worst, especially Mane, he looks like not interested in the game at all.

Gomez oh Gomez, he is there just because we dont even have a proper backup for Clyne, his passing is shit, his crossing is even more shit, I dont even know what the hell he is doing. doh.gif
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Shelvey has quite outstanding performance not only vs LFC. He can consider as very good player for mid table clubs. Maybe LFC can consider to buy him back? (OMG that's hurtttt sad.gif )

Like I said, Hendo and Gini were missing, don't knw why Klopp didn't sub Can out.

Yes, duno why Mane missed so many touches.

Gomez? I was nearly got heart attack when last match vs Leicester, but last night I was ok, know why? Cuz I dy expected. Worst passing and crossing. No confident.

QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Oct 2 2017, 10:49 AM)
U're right on all counts. Shelvey really looks impressive without losing his head for once. Hendo and Gini really cannot start together, they're basically the same type of player - all indusry, zero creativity.

Struj, well, apart from the gift from Clark, cant really say he is struggling, since we know he's a poacher and doesnt offer much apart from goal. Far from being sharp. Salah & Mane offered really close to nthg ytd, cant rmb they moved to open up lanes for passing even once... Probably too used to Firmino's dummy running to create space instead.

Gomez, u forgot about the borderline red card high knee...

Our CBs, one chance, one goal conceded. Damn, their lack of focus alone would deem them unfit to wear the jersey.

The fact that only Moreno apart from Cout is free from criticism really show how bad we played.
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Talking bout Clark's mistake, I think Sturdrige to ganjiong. He should have to be calm and bang the ball into the net but..gosshh!

QUOTE(wholaimi @ Oct 2 2017, 12:14 PM)
credit to NUFC! they were very discipline all over the pitch. not to mention they do got a little bit of charm with the goal & also not conceding when the players fucked up.

But LFC were torrid to watch. Base on every single match that i watched since early this season, i'm downgrading my expectations on the team. from now on until january transfer window.... i'll be expecting LFC to be in
1. between 5th to 10th in the league
2. downed to europa league
3. exited from FA cup

seriously there is no joy watching LFC played now. after the arsenal game the 'poetry in motion' no longer exist. all too direct. bomb the ball from the back and let forwards chase the lose ball.
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No doubt Rafa's team played very well and organize last night. LFC has almost no chance to attack.
Let's see.. It just October ma.. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(rickk @ Oct 2 2017, 12:27 PM)
Talking bout Clark's mistake, I think Sturdrige to ganjiong. He should have to be calm and bang the ball into the net but..gosshh!
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He would have banged it in one or two years ago. When even your supposedly most lethal striker missed an easy chance, it tells a lot about the team's inability to finish off chances...
When Struj is lethal no more, I really dont know what he brings to the table
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When the club is selling our best players, all the “No player is bigger than the club” chants start ringing in the airspace or so they said

Lepas, they were left asking the questions when no replacement is found.

Case study now: Phillip Coutinho
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I'd rather we play shit and get trashed then play without heart and draw or lose by some lazy ass defending.

It's so effing frustrating, if I was the manager/coach I'd give the players the hair dryer treatment.

But truth be told, again last night, showed that Klopp doesnt have a Plan B.

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 2 2017, 09:14 AM)
Since Suarez left, we still havent found our replacement poacher.
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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Oct 2 2017, 09:48 AM)
I think Rafa just came up with the template of nullifying our supposed deadly attack. Put 2 man and another ready onto Cout while cut off his forward passing lanes. When he has no choice but to pass to Hendo or the other mid, catch a breather since they cant do shit with the ball. Repeat.
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Despite their discipline, they still committed deadly mistake which any decent team would have converted, but not us vmad.gif

QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Oct 2 2017, 10:49 AM)
U're right on all counts. Shelvey really looks impressive without losing his head for once.
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Well, I was hoping for his famous back pass brows.gif but looking at our attack last nite, its unlikely we will benefit from it. Rafa strategy is based on counter attack with accurate pass from Shelvey. It can be effective if you have that kind of player (used to be SG). But at the moment we don't employ such tactic and we don't have the right player to do it.
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QUOTE(farisq @ Oct 2 2017, 01:24 PM)
We really miss this type of player who is a pain to defense, who makes borderline foul or as Carra called player with "streetwise".
Despite their discipline, they still committed deadly mistake which any decent team would have converted, but not us  vmad.gif
Well, I was hoping for his famous back pass  brows.gif but looking at our attack last nite, its unlikely we will benefit from it. Rafa strategy is based on counter attack with accurate pass from Shelvey. It can be effective if you have that kind of player (used to be SG). But at the moment we don't employ such tactic and we don't have the right player to do it.
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While honestly it could have happened to any other team/player, we have wasted enough simple chances like that, leading to more frustrations. We cannot expect to be able to carve out 20+ shots every game only to score 1...

We have one who is superior, but as i said, Cout was totally shut down by Rafa ytd. That goal was only made possible by his quick thinking and vision; he went for near post as the defender and keeper tried to cover for a far post shot.
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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Oct 2 2017, 12:32 PM)
He would have banged it in one or two years ago. When even your supposedly most lethal striker missed an easy chance, it tells a lot about the team's inability to finish off chances...
When Struj is lethal no more, I really dont know what he brings to the table
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Can I say because of injury makes his sharp no more? haha

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Despite their discipline, they still committed deadly mistake which any decent team would have converted, but not us  vmad.gif
Maybe Crystal Palace also?

QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Oct 2 2017, 01:35 PM)
While honestly it could have happened to any other team/player, we have wasted enough simple chances like that, leading to more frustrations. We cannot expect to be able to carve out 20+ shots every game only to score 1...

We have one who is superior, but as i said, Cout was totally shut down by Rafa ytd. That goal was only made possible by his quick thinking and vision; he went for near post as the defender and keeper tried to cover for a far post shot.
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Cou's goal really brilliant but after that you see, once he got the ball, 2 or 3 persons confirm come in. His ulti can be use once only. :/
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QUOTE(rickk @ Oct 2 2017, 05:29 PM)
Can I say because of injury makes his sharp no more? haha

Maybe Crystal Palace also?
Cou's goal really brilliant but after that you see, once he got the ball, 2 or 3 persons confirm come in. His ulti can be use once only. :/
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Probably yes. Lack of game time doesnt help too. He also missed another easy chance in the CL game last week.. While i dont think his confidence would ever get eroded, that split second hesitation could make all the difference.

Cout was being double man-marked almost the whole game. IIRC, he managed to get to shoot only because Newcastle only half cleared it. Cant expect him to score a screamer every game, can we? Let alone 2 in a game...
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and arsenal , the team that liverpool expectly destroyed, is now above liverpool
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Under FSG, it's no different expect they aren't sanctioning graded players (cost more) and rather try to unearth gems from pebbles. Also it has to be generally English players
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I dont know if we should watch man utd vs liverpool, with the international break, it will be a fucking trainwreck with liverpool on rails

Easily another 5-0 for man utd
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whoever manager/coach we bring if there are no change in the transfer policy (cheapskate policy) i dont think its gonna change anything...
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whoever manager/coach we bring if there are no change in the transfer policy (cheapskate policy) i dont think its gonna change anything...
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Bayern bring Klopp.

Klopp replace with BenitezG and Alonzo 🤔
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Heynckes return till end of season - reports

After that I suppose it would Nagelsmann
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whoever manager/coach we bring if there are no change in the transfer policy (cheapskate policy) i dont think its gonna change anything...
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Cheapskate but bought Ox for 40m ohwai..
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Cheapskate but bought Ox for 40m ohwai..
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That is called "gimmick". Without Ox, Liverpool's net summer spend is +£3m.
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Beware, someone is going to say our transfer is a successful one because of the landing of Keita.


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Beware, someone is going to say our transfer is a successful one because of the landing of Keita.
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myb next season..like that for more than 20 years

rich sheikh..come and get lfc
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henderson and ox both given very bad rating for their performances this morning..seem like they drag their club form to international dry.gif
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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Oct 5 2017, 11:45 AM)
Heynckes return till end of season - reports

After that I suppose it would Nagelsmann
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why not klopp?
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I dont know, just gut feeling that it wouldnt be Klopp. Also contains element of hope that it wouldnt be, that he would be with us for many years to come, despite his obvious flaws, but probably only because I know we wouldnt get anyone better or at least on par with him
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I know Rafa is better than Klopp. But knowing his past experienced with the owners did not go well it is a doubt he will come back. Unless FSG out.
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Bayern dun want Klopp
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I know Rafa is better than Klopp. But knowing his past experienced with the owners did not go well it is a doubt he will come back. Unless FSG out.
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His bad experience wasn't with FSG. Moreover, I think FSG comes across as better than that dictator at Newcastle. Rafa has been able to do well under him so far. I have no doubt that he will be ok with FSG.

Of course, we hope that it will not come to that, and that Klopp will be more willing to change his ways and start getting positive results.
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QUOTE(jialitrading @ Oct 8 2017, 08:58 AM)
ox vs slovenia

0 shot
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21 passes
61.9% pass accuracy

Looks like another Andy Carroll situation.
After few months we will sell him to West Ham or Stoke for 5M.
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i think it would more like Benteke situation..
loan for one season and sell at same price 35mil..
maybe to Bournemouth to join the likes of Ibe and Brad Smith
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QUOTE(RedSiglap56 @ Oct 7 2017, 06:23 PM)
His bad experience wasn't with FSG. Moreover, I think FSG comes across as better than that dictator at Newcastle. Rafa has been able to do well under him so far. I have no doubt that he will be ok with FSG.

Of course, we hope that it will not come to that, and that Klopp will be more willing to change his ways and start getting positive results.
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After what Rafa help lead the upheaval against G&H, FSG probably listed Rafa Benetiz as one of the least likely candidates to be called upon as manager should there be a vacancy.


Anyway, there are spurts of news...

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Liverpool’s American owners FSG have slapped a stunning £1billion price tag on the club after preliminary buy-out talks.
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Leading financier Amanda Staveley, who has strong links to billionaires, has made initial soundings about availability.
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Staveley runs PCP Capital Partners, a fund with global assets of more than £28billion.
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Staveley knows that Liverpool is on the radar of the Middle East billionaires.
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FSG are looking for a major return on their investment and will only sell for the right price. (Mirror)


FSG you've made you money. Thank you, have your cigar and enjoy baseball, let Liverpoolfc compete

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let Liverpoolfc compete
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Couldn't agree more. FSG has essentially made us an Arsenal 2.0.
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Couldn't agree more. FSG has essentially made us an Arsenal 2.0.
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More likely after Ox joined doh.gif

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More likely after Ox joined doh.gif
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Couldn't agree more. FSG has essentially made us an Arsenal 2.0.
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I know a lot of fans will forever remind us FSG saved us.

but like a sheltering a lost child, fostered & natured us, its time to set them free (when the right party comes along) The club has rich loyal fans & the club has destiny to fulfil. that all I'm requesting of FSG, the game, managing football has evolved.
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Couldn't agree more. FSG has essentially made us an Arsenal 2.0.
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I know a lot of fans will forever remind us FSG saved us.

but like a sheltering a lost child, fostered & natured us, its time to set them free (when the right party comes along) The club has rich loyal fans & the club has destiny to fulfil. that all I'm requesting of FSG, the game, managing football has evolved.
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Oct 10 2017, 03:59 PM)
I know a lot of fans will forever remind us FSG saved us.

but like a sheltering a lost child, fostered & natured us, its time to set them free (when the right party comes along) The club has rich loyal fans & the club has destiny to fulfil. that all I'm requesting of FSG, the game, managing football has evolved.
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Even "save" is an overstatement. It's what we call "buy low sell high" in investment.
But they're selling to another American? doh.gif
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Never trust a Yank.

Don’t like Chinese even though they r cash rich because they are known to be very shrewd and calculative when the chips are down

The best investor is an oil sheikh, coz money is no object to them lol

Some may argue this is not Liverpool way etc etc

Well, we are in 2017 now, not 1980s. Stop living in the past

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 10 2017, 06:35 PM)
Never trust a Yank.

Don’t like Chinese even though they r cash rich because they are known to be very shrewd and calculating when the chips are down

The best investor is an oil sheikh, coz money is no object to them lol

Some may argue this is not Liverpool way etc etc

Well, we are in 2017 now, not 1980s. Stop living in the past
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The meltdown begins earlier this year.
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Mane will miss match vs MUFC, Spurs, Sevilla, Chelsea and amongst many other matches. We are fucked.

I can already see Klopp blaming the results because of Mane's injury.

Time to rise, the Ox.
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Mane will miss match vs MUFC, Spurs, Sevilla, Chelsea and amongst many other matches. We are fucked.

I can already see Klopp blaming the results because of Mane's injury.

Time to rise, the Ox.
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Wonder if Klopp will unleash some of of brighter young prospects?
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Another dull 0 - 0 score on the cards !!

Ayam happy if this happens.


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Klopp's way is getting more and more boring.
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Nah I think it's not likely.

Most likely Coutinho will be slotted into Mane's position. Or Firmino takes Mane's place on the left then Sturridge/Solanke in the center.
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Most probably line up

Mignolet
Gomez-Matip-lovren-moreno
Hendo-gini-coutinho
Salah-sturridge-firminho

The lost of Mane to fucking international break will blunt our offences but the remaining others should be good enough provided we are clinical and lucky enough since we are up against De Gea whom always make amazing saves against liverpool.


Our midfield should function normally especially gini playing in home turf and our magician couts, MU also are without Fellaini and Pogba

Our defense being the weakest link of all, with our error prone CB's, young gomez and moreno (strange its him the most reliable nowdays) will probably be tested the most, and last season we manage to contain lukaku however back then he was with everton so he got poor service

A draw would be a good enough but hopefully we can sneak in a win
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Most probably line up

Mignolet
Gomez-Matip-lovren-moreno
Hendo-gini-coutinho
Salah-sturridge-firminho

The lost of Mane to fucking international break will blunt our offences but the remaining others should be good enough provided we are clinical and lucky enough since we are up against De Gea whom always make amazing saves against liverpool.
Our midfield should function normally especially gini playing in home turf and our magician couts, MU also are without Fellaini and Pogba

Our defense being the weakest link of all, with our error prone CB's, young gomez and moreno (strange its him the most reliable nowdays) will probably be tested the most, and last season we manage to contain lukaku however back then he was with everton so he got poor service

A draw would be a good enough but hopefully we can sneak in a win
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The most crucial things about our formation from the start of the season is the absense of Clyne. And then the shit midfield combination of Hendo + Gini + Can + Coutinho, neither 3 of them will work out.
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With the average (wanted to say lame) performance against City even before we were down to 10 men, I doubt if we are gonna continue our heroics as robin hood this season.

Sure I still look forward to the game against MU, but I wont get my hopes up for a result we can brag about...
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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Oct 13 2017, 03:01 PM)
With the average (wanted to say lame) performance against City even before we were down to 10 men, I doubt if we are gonna continue our heroics as robin hood this season.

Sure I still look forward to the game against MU, but I wont get my hopes up for a result we can brag about...
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Watch pool’s game with mid table expectations. You will be a lot happier.
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QUOTE(jialitrading @ Oct 11 2017, 01:32 AM)
No Mane + Shit Defence + Shit OX + International duty

I can sense an outcome of: Kop 1 - 4 ManUtd

We already shit now itself n without mane... better not to watch this match
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Klopp's pre-match press conference vs Manchester United:

Reds can cope without Mane - have no new injury concerns
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“You always hope that nothing will happen, but as long as they are not around, we don’t know exactly what happens. It’s quite difficult to get in touch with all the different FAs and all that stuff like this.

    I had a chat immediately after the game with Sadio, how I always do with the boys. It was not clear it would be that serious, but he said ‘I feel something in my hamstring’, so it was clear it would be at least close for the United game - and now we know it’s much longer.

“That’s not cool, but we have to deal with it – how we always have to do.”


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    I don’t have personal rivalries. I don’t see it like this. But it’s massive.

“Our fans have been waiting ofr the game for two weeks at least. We have two days to prepare. It’s a pretty big game so maybe next time bring these teams together when we can work in the direction of this game.

“Jose’s team play like they have to play in each moment. They are in a better situation than last year.

“They have fantastic players.

“Against us they played often pretty long.. but they don’t always do this. We know they have big quality. But we are still positive. We look forward to it. One of the most special game in world football.”


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    No excuses. We have to try everything. How I see it is two really good football teams against each other.


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“I really like him, but how it is, when I think too far in the past I’m not 100 percent in sure.

“I was a player with him, how could I, as a really average player, want to manage Manchester United. People think I’m crazy but not that crazy.

    He was a big admirer of Sir Alex Ferguson. He wore a Manchester United coat. He might not remember but I remember!

“A few things are not exactly.. but still funny! I had fun when I read it. Not all is exactly like he said. Sorry!”


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“If 99 percent of Liverpudlians think we’re going the right way then it’s okay.

    The good old times, dominate for 20 years, will not come back either. Our job is to fight with every point.

“I’m not overly happy. I didn’t open immediately a bottle of champagne. There’s still a long way to go. But we could have more points. I’m calm and cool with all the things we’ve still to do.”


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“I would say at the moment he’s our number one penalty taker. That pressure was really big. He did really well.

“It’s intense. It’s the same for Sadio Mane. How can the players... they don’t have chance to get away from the situation? Sadio has an injury that could mean he’s not involved for Senegal.

“England played a friendly game on an artificial surface... I was not happy that Hendo was on the pitch with all the problems he had. I thought it made no sense.


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“If we came out every day and tell where the players have pain and they are still training...

    That was true, he couldn’t train. That’s why he didn’t play the first game for Croatia. He needed a few days rest.

“We managed it. He is match fit. Everything looks fine. It was no problem yesterday.. at the moment everything is good.”



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Damn we look like usual dominating but no end finish, and we keep giving possession away by some cheap pass and almost got punish for it

Hurry up and score some goalsss plss
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after all the hard work without any end product, hopefully we wont suffer a sucker punch from mu wink.gif
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ayam happy, if it ends 0 - 0 , but deep inside me, I knoe we have a chance to give MU their first loss of the season
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Oct 14 2017, 08:24 PM)
after all the hard work without any end product, hopefully we wont suffer a sucker punch from mu  wink.gif
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Rashford to nick it in 85th min sad.gif
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Rashford to nick it in 85th min sad.gif
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HEART can only take you this far....




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With Utd not looking to win this game, cant say that this is a positive result despite it should be...
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2 positive things, we keep clean sheet and deny mu 3 points
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Heart? What heart? I can't see any. Especially our captain Hendo.
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Heart? What heart? I can't see any. Especially our captain Hendo.
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Coward, useless "captain".
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Oct 14 2017, 09:23 PM)
2 positive things, we keep clean sheet and  deny mu 3 points
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That sounds like lacking spirit. The chance was there before first half. If only Salah had hit it nicely. Man Utd isn't playing at its best.
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We had all the chances in the world but somehow our players always forgot about teamwork and their shooting boots in the final third

Buschester united not even intrested to play in second half but we still cant finish em off

And oxford looks really good in his cameo...suitable to be a wingback lol
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QUOTE(fu'house @ Oct 14 2017, 09:34 PM)
That sounds like lacking spirit. The chance was there before first half. If only Salah had hit it nicely. Man Utd isn't playing at its best.
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They were playing at their best alright, exactly the way Mourinho wanted it.
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Can't believe how some United fans are happy with a point. We have one of the worst defensive record in the league and United parked the bus against us after spending 250mil in the summer. Mourinho is a tactical genius.
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Mo Salah should just let Coutinho take the shot, Coutinho have better space.

Can should had score that tap in.

Sigh.
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QUOTE(ace-user @ Oct 14 2017, 10:13 PM)
Can't believe how some United fans are happy with a point. We have one of the worst defensive record in the league and United parked the bus against us after spending 250mil in the summer. Mourinho is a tactical genius.
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It’s a good point for Man U. Anything more it’s just a bonus for them.

This match is just another match for Them, they r looking at the big picture and aiming for EPL at the end of the tunnel and as for us, we were going for that 3 pts only just because of the rivalry and God knows what will happen next after this.

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Its a fact that MU lost 2 points, we would not a chance against them with our current form.

Citeh should thank us for helping them.

I sense that many fansi are butthurt with that 2 points loss.


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Man City are the 1st top-flight team to net 29 goals in their first 8 league games of the season since Everton in 1894-95 (30).

They are just steamrolling past everyone. Pepball in full swing.
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 14 2017, 11:14 PM)
It’s a good point for Man U. Anything more it’s just a bonus for them.

This match is just another match for Them, they r looking at the big picture and aiming for EPL at the end of the tunnel and as for us, we were going for that 3 pts only just because of the rivalry and God knows what will happen next after this.
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I disagree, if they really want to challenge for the title they need to win games like this, especially on the form that they're having and after spending 250mil in the summer. If this was Moyes era, United fans would have wanted him sacked, but because it's Moan-rinho, parking the bus is a tactical masterclass.
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I would say its silly for ManU to park the bus, they can easily win this game with 3 clear goals if they chose to attack us because our defence is in shambles now.


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so... 1 win from last 8 matches rite...

when we score, we conceded. when we kept clean sheet, we can't score. but when we can't score doesn't mean we can keep a clean sheet....
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I would say its silly for ManU to park the bus, they can easily win this game with 3 clear goals if they chose to attack us because our defence is in shambles now.
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This.

I cant believe Mourinho would park the bus, with their form from last few games, and with the disastrous defence of Liv, they can easily outplay us.

But at least Mourinho still consider us as top team and decided to settle for a point.
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Doesn't even complain & scream at ref when Lukaku didn't even get a card.

Coward, useless "captain".
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Yes bro. We are way too "nice". Hendo is way too nice to be a captain. I've been saying this for awhile. We need some badass in the side to scream at the ref and the opposition players. Also that high boot on Can, although wasn't exactly intentional, as a captain you should at least talk to the ref. Surround the ref and pressure the ref. We are playing at home for God's sake. Use the home advantage.

QUOTE(ace-user @ Oct 14 2017, 11:50 PM)
I disagree, if they really want to challenge for the title they need to win games like this, especially on the form that they're having and after spending 250mil in the summer. If this was Moyes era, United fans would have wanted him sacked, but because it's Moan-rinho, parking the bus is a tactical masterclass.
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Not really. Mufc just need to beat the team outside of top 6.Which is mid table teams till bottom table. That's 14 teams. So far they have managed to do so apart from Stoke where they drew. Mourinho's plan is to beat those shit teams. Then park the bus away to top 6 teams to get a point. Then win them back at Old Trafford. That's easily 94 points comes the end of the season.

You could argue that after spending 250M, he should have attacked like City do. But we all know Mourinho. He won't have that. He won't take the risk attacking us given how shit our defence is and how good was their form before facing us. He doesn't give a Shit about all that apparently. All he knows that he wants a point at Anfield and he got it.

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didnt catch the game last night, had dinner function.

from the stats seems like the usual liverpool v mu games? Liverpool cant seem to score, mu parking the bus, ala mourinho specialty
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This.

I cant believe Mourinho would park the bus, with their form from last few games, and with the disastrous defence of Liv, they can easily outplay us.

But at least Mourinho still consider us as top team and decided to settle for a point.
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Yeah but Mourinho did all the calculation. He's too cautious to do that because he knows LFC could and always turn up in big game especially at Anfield. He would rather have one point in the bag and stay unbeaten than having to risk lose all 3 points while trying to get 3 points. He knows he doesn't have to beat us to stay or close to top of the league. It's in his hands. But good luck catching up with City. I can't wait to see how City attack flawlessly vs them at Ethihad.
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didnt catch the game last night, had dinner function.

from the stats seems like the usual liverpool v mu games? Liverpool cant seem to score, mu parking the bus, ala mourinho specialty
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The usual Mourinho parking the bus away to big teams.

Mufc had only one shot on target. Zero shot in the second half.
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That’s because Mourinho knows that getting a point out of your biggest rivals is already a victory itself.

It’s a long gruelling season, there’s no need to risk it all in this grudge match with Liverpool.

On the other hand, if THIS Liverpool can come out with a draw at Old Trafford, fans will be celebrating like no tomorrow, patting’s each other back.




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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 15 2017, 02:29 PM)
That’s because Mourinho knows that getting a point out of your biggest rivals is already a victory itself.

It’s a long gruelling season, there’s no need to risk it all in this grudge match with Liverpool.

On the other hand, if THIS Liverpool can come out with a draw at Old Trafford, fans will be celebrating like no tomorrow, patting’s each other back.
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A good draw with attacking football always better than a draw with parking bus
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QUOTE(leftist @ Oct 15 2017, 02:30 PM)
A good draw with attacking football always better than a draw with parking bus
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Aint playing for a draw and got a point better than playing to win but settle for a draw?

United were defensive and negative but not parking the bus.. united not really play behind the ball. We always trying to break liverpool play instead of just sitting back.

As for liverpool play.. positive but also cautious. Not sure liverpool were trying hard enough for a win too. Stay wt 3 man midfield and take out salah & coutinho instead. Guess not to lose also klopp priority
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QUOTE(onepack @ Oct 16 2017, 01:30 AM)
Aint playing for a draw and got a point better than playing to win but settle for a draw?

United were defensive and negative but not parking the bus.. united not really play behind the ball. We always trying to break liverpool play instead of just sitting back.

As for liverpool play.. positive but also cautious. Not sure liverpool were trying hard enough for a win too. Stay wt 3 man midfield and take out salah & coutinho instead. Guess not to lose also klopp priority
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coutinho juz back from long flight same as firmino..its not coz klopp wanna draw doh.gif



nobody said liv happy with a draw..but it always better if u draw when played with good futbol rather than played bad



all football fans not juz liv said your team parked the bus icon_idea.gif
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It is funny when a manager comment that he did not win because the opponent manager did not allow him to. You should adapt, improvise, make impactful changes, that is if you really want 3 points. Or else, just say it upfront we wanted one point, and we got what we came for..... biggrin.gif thumbsup.gif
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Honestly speaking there will be times we need to play defensively and there are times you can go hung ho in offense. There is no shame in Parking the bus. Had BR parked the bus against Chelsea or after leading 3-0 against Crystal Palace, we would have won the league. But hell no,it’s not liverpoooool’s way mahhhhh some
Said....

In fact, I salute Mourinho for his approach at Anfield, cautious and pragmatic just like Rafa. All this ‘heavy metal’ football is just a titular gimmick coined to placate the samba fans. The more like I look at heavy metal football, the more I feel it’s just all out fast temp attacking football in the first quarter and fark all in defense thus everything goes down hill after half an hour.

It’s a fact. Klopp’s football style will not sustain good 90 mins simply because there is no balance in the team. The philiosophy is either you destroy your opponent in the first half or entire team goes pancit if it doesn’t happen.

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Honestly speaking there will be times we need to play defensively and there are times when you can go hung ho in offense. There is no shame in Parking the bus. Had BRparkes the bus against Chelsea or after leading 3-0  against Crystal Palace, we would have won the league. But no,it’s not liverpoooool’s way mahhhhh some Said....

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Spot on. All these talks about Mourinho being a coward parking the bus yada yada yada. As much as I hate Mourinho, he actually knows what he's doing. He's got a clear plan in mind. Beat the 14 teams. Get a draw away to top 6 teams. He should be close to getting the league title.

But some of us prefer we LFC beat the top6 teams. But what for? If we can't even beat those bottom table teams? We have been performing godlike against top 6 teams for years. Look where does that lead us? Nowhere. The key isn't to beat those top 6 teams but the other 14 teams.

We have no right to criticize Mourinho approach given that we have not been winning any league title for 28 bloody years. It's harsh but it's true. Give me a manager that can beat the fuck out of those 14 teams but parking the bus vs top 6, as long as it wins us the league title. I'm all in. Call us flat track bully or whatever shit I don't care. I just want league title.

Call us boring football or whatever. Playing free flowing tiki taka is just a bonus. At the end of the day, it's the league title that counts.
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mourinho might be boring but he win 2 trophies with mu in his 1st season..both klopp attempted in finals but failed. seriously i would rather play "boring" football, score 21 goals conceded only 2 and placed 2nd. all these attacking football talk are shit without reliable defending. i prefer us to win 1-0 than 3-3 draw anytime anyday
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 16 2017, 07:58 PM)
Honestly speaking there will be times we need to play defensively and there are times you can go hung ho in offense. There is no shame in Parking the bus. Had BR parked the bus against Chelsea or after leading 3-0  against Crystal Palace, we would have won the league. But hell no,it’s not liverpoooool’s way mahhhhh some
Said....

In fact, I salute Mourinho for his approach at Anfield, cautious and pragmatic just like Rafa. All this ‘heavy metal’ football is just a titular gimmick coined to placate the samba fans. The more like I look at heavy metal football, the more I feel it’s just all out fast temp attacking football in the first quarter and fark all in defense thus everything goes down hill after half an hour.

It’s a fact. Klopp’s football style will not sustain good 90 mins simply because there is no balance in the team. The philiosophy is either you destroy your opponent in the first half or entire team goes pancit if it doesn’t happen.
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Game management, in short, perhaps? U dont approach every game the same way. Sometimes u have to respect the strengths of opponent. Sometimes u have to focus on your own. Klopp is all about the latter atm, with opponents keen to focus on our weakness. Boom!

That said, i still find it funny that Mou showed us that much of respect...
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Oct 16 2017, 10:46 PM)
mourinho might be boring but he win 2 trophies with mu in his 1st season..both klopp attempted in finals but failed. seriously i would rather play "boring" football, score 21 goals conceded only 2 and placed 2nd. all these attacking football talk are shit without reliable defending. i prefer us to win 1-0 than 3-3 draw anytime anyday
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To go into war, you need to be fully equipped. Spend on the latest weapons to overcome the opponents. If keep on buying second hand weapon how to win the war?? Just my thought. Until we can challenge the transfer market, we will and always will be a mid table club.
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is there really a contact between dejan lovren and lukaku, cause dejan complaining that lukaku should do more to avoid contact. FA won't press charges anyway - heard from radio
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Yes there is contact coz you can see the impact from the replay. But very hard to tell it is intentional or not...

But again.... if Lukaku was shown yellow from his tackle on Gomez, he might tried to be mare careful... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 16 2017, 07:58 PM)
In fact, I salute Mourinho for his approach at Anfield, cautious and pragmatic just like Rafa. All this ‘heavy metal’ football is just a titular gimmick coined to placate the samba fans. The more like I look at heavy metal football, the more I feel it’s just all out fast temp attacking football in the first quarter and fark all in defense thus everything goes down hill after half an hour.

It’s a fact. Klopp’s football style will not sustain good 90 mins simply because there is no balance in the team. The philiosophy is either you destroy your opponent in the first half or entire team goes pancit if it doesn’t happen.
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Well I read someone argued that Mourinho took same pragmatic approach last season, but look where they finished...

Anyway we all expected this approach before the match, even King Kenny said it that he expected Mou to play defensive. Only the media and maybe their fans overhyped it and suggested something like a high scoreline etc. which to me somehow justified given their current form

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QUOTE(farisq @ Oct 17 2017, 01:32 PM)
Well I read someone argued that Mourinho took same pragmatic approach last season, but look where they finished...

Anyway we all expected this approach before the match, even King Kenny said it that he expected Mou to play defensive. Only the media and maybe their fans overhyped it and suggested something like a high scoreline etc. which to me somehow justified given their current form
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Well one thing you need to know about Mourinho is that he is a chequebook manager. He buys all the marquee signings and gets them to play his style of football, hardly any new talents were nurtured under his tutelage.

It’s also one of the reasons why Man U can regain their top flight form in a swift fashion, because they hardly gamble on unknowns, unlike us. Self explanatory.
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Well I read someone argued that Mourinho took same pragmatic approach last season, but look where they finished...

Anyway we all expected this approach before the match, even King Kenny said it that he expected Mou to play defensive. Only the media and maybe their fans overhyped it and suggested something like a high scoreline etc. which to me somehow justified given their current form
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Last season they had too many draws and couldn't finish teams off. In total there were 15 draws and out of those 15, 10 were at Old Trafford. 10 draws at home. That's bad.

He fixed it this season by getting Lukaku for big fees to help them killing teams off especially those small teams. Ditching Rooney because he was a liability. This season they are off to a flying start beating bottom teams left right and center (apart from Stoke). Of course they had an easier fixtures and Pogba + Mkhitaryan & Rashford have been great. And super sub Martial.

So back to us, last season we were pissed poor with defending. What did Klopp do to fix? Nothing.

We can criticize and laugh at them for parking the bus but to be fair, it's not that easy to park the bus. You think we can park the bus as well as them? It requires focus and discipline. Perhaps that's why it suits us for not parking the bus because we are incapable of defending. Hence we attack attack and attack. I really want Klopp to fix the bloody defence though.
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Move on. Its a must win match tonight. Another failure then bye² UCL.
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Damn just replace hendo with milner seems to solve our problem
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Damn just replace hendo with milner seems to solve our problem
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4-0 but defending still a joke, maribor got a free header, lucky didnt score
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Huge win 7-0 and a clean sheet to boot
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So can we rest hendo
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Actually, I prefer to rest Wiljnaldum. I don't see much contribution from him.
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Oct 18 2017, 09:21 AM)
Actually, I prefer to rest Wiljnaldum. I don't see much contribution from him.
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Away game mah that's why laugh.gif
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To be honest, I don't see much contribution from him for the last 4 games which we drew.

Next is Spurs who played well and drew with Real, and they played with 2 strikers in Bernabeu. Talk about positive football.
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To be honest, I don't see much contribution from him for the last 4 games which we drew.

Next is Spurs who played well and drew with Real, and they played with 2 strikers in Bernabeu. Talk about positive football.
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Milner and Can should be the fixed starter since they can dribble with the ball.

Gini and Henderson can switch between themselves because they have the same style. They are like the guys who got away because they don't make any mistake. Cant have too many of them at a time.
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If I’m Klopp I will only play Gini at home. This guy is getting one good game out of 3-4 games on average
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QUOTE(slickskills21 @ Oct 18 2017, 10:33 AM)
Milner and Can should be the fixed starter since they can dribble with the ball.

Gini and Henderson can switch between themselves because they have the same style. They are like the guys who got away because they don't make any mistake. Cant have too many of them at a time.
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I like Milner because he is critical. He goes forward with intent to attack and tracks back very well. When he goes forward, he puts the ball into dangerous areas. If he's not on the ball, he make sure he runs into spaces. Gini doesn't, Gini passes the ball and stands there waiting for something to happen next.
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I like Milner because he is critical. He goes forward with intent to attack and tracks back very well. When he goes forward, he puts the ball into dangerous areas. If he's not on the ball, he make sure he runs into spaces. Gini doesn't, Gini passes the ball and stands there waiting for something to happen next.
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forget about marabo, real test is on sunday. hope this game will fire up their confidence into the spurs game.
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Guys, how much is the LFC jersey at Lot10?
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dont get too carried away just by one game....

i still remember when we 1st drew against team like marabo, everyone was asking where does this team came from? and concluded.... we can just steamroll them. so, a win is expected.

real test will be against spurs..... finger crossed

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Maribor played so badly and yet had a free header against Liverpool. It may be a disaster to get carried away by this win because we still have the same defensive problems!

As for whether we should replace Hendo with Milner indefinitely, we may have forgotten that we didn't have Mane either. So, keep Mane on the bench indefinitely too?

Actually no chance for Mane to be kept on the bench if he's fit. He was personally purchased by Klopp! By that same score, benching Gini is like Klopp admitting he made a mistake! If only Hendo is not captain, Klopp may probably bench him...indefinitely.
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Anyone went to Lot10 shop recently?

Has this collection already on sale? https://store.liverpoolfc.com/fashion/colle...ons/nb-leisure/
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Klopp's pre-match press conference vs Tottenham Hotspurs:

Klopp says Mane has not trained outside - not sure when he’s back.
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“Sadio is still in rehab, that’s how it is. He’s [working] indoors, [and] was not even in any exercises outdoors, that’s the situation at the moment,” he explained.

“If he’s fit earlier [than six weeks], I would be really happy – but nobody knows in this moment. So nothing else to say about [that].

“They have very important games, or at least one—Senegal need one point from two games, I think, to qualify.

“So I can imagine they feel the pressure a little bit, but we cannot change the situation. If Sadio is fit we cannot hide it, why should we?

“If he’s fit we can do nothing to keep him here [next month], but in this moment I don’t know.”


Wembley record isn’t so bad - looking forward to facing Tottenham.
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    I have never played against Tottenham, I can say that!

“We don’t feel bad when we see Wembley. It’s a wonderful place. We only think about Tottenham, not where we play.”


Klopp admires many of Spurs’ players, but says Ben Davies is a good example of how patience can pay off for development.
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“That’s a nice football game. Every supporter can look forward to it. Both teams don’t hesitate.

“They can play better, we can play better.

“Fantastic development since I was in England. They were already good when I came in. Apart from Walker this year nobody left the club. It will be a big challenge in the next few years.”

“Dele Alli as well. Eriksen as well. They are in a good moment as a club. They know it will not be an easy game. Let’s see what happens.”

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Reds boss reckons Liverpool have improved both defensively and with their counter pressing.
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“Against Manchester United and Maribor, the most important thing was to avoid counter attack and we did that.”

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“When we analysed all the games and all the good things we did didn’t lead to what we wanted, it could be easier that we won the ball back in more situations than we did in counter pressing.

“It is energy saving because you don’t have to run long distances.

“Am I 100 percent sure we will do it again? Not so far. But I am hoping so because it will be key against Tottenham. It would help a lot.”


Klopp hints Henderson will return for Spurs, praised James Milner.
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On Milner
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“It’s no problem. I was never in doubt about him. I was really happy for him. It’s the situation we want and need. We need more high quality players than 11. We play without Clyne, Lallana and MAne and we still have more players than we can use.

“I respect Milly a lot, he is a very important player for us both on and off the pitch.”


On Salah
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“He is quality, no doubt. He needed half an hour at Watford. In the league it can be difficult but it was a fantastic job from the scouting department.

    I knew him since he was at Basel - but to see his development and to make the judgement.... All the rest is Mo Salah. Always it helps if you settle as a person. From the first day he’s fantastic. Hopefully he stays fit.

“He’s the man in Egypt, like Sadio in Senegal. I am always afraid when they are away.”


On Skysport didn't move vs Arsenal fixture to Chirstmas Eve
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“I don’t know when it happened last time that somebody could take something but didn’t, because of common sense.

“Sky, thank you.

“I thought it was a very good decision, especially from the fans. It’s still difficult, we will do everything for the fans.

“I love these signs because I said a few times that we signed these contracts but it is the players who decide how nice the game is, if they can never rest it’s a problem.”

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FFS even Huddersfield can get past so called double decker . ish ish ish
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QUOTE(redrum77 @ Oct 21 2017, 11:04 PM)
FFS even Huddersfield can get past so called double decker . ish ish ish
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FFS even Huddersfield can get past so called double decker . ish ish ish
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The approach to different team is different. So cant really compare.
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Yeah. United didn't park as bad last night & got punished from it. Hold quite decent of posession too
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Yeah credit to Huddersfield. United played poor and paid the price.

What is this hype about Harry Winks..? Watching highlights against Real, he was decent. Let's see if the hype is true...
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Tottenham vs Liverpool
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Today, 8:30 PM
Wembley Stadium, Wembley.

Best wishes for LFC.
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QUOTE(Adamhoward @ Oct 22 2017, 05:26 PM)
Tottenham vs Liverpool
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Best wishes for LFC.
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11pm here. 8.30 is arsenal game
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Milner in place of Gini.
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Let's see how this mid trio performs. Milner has every reasons to do well so let's hope he does
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with us having to play catch up against this spurs, gg i think
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At the very least score one and hold out for a draw
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Pack it up. . another Monday blues ..
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Lol fuck lovrennnnnnn
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Game over.

Lovren and Co. Shitty as usual
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Oh wow.
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I laughed at lindelof, I deserve lovren
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lovren mistake is as bad as lindeof mistake yesterday, just that lovren have been making these kind of mistakes over and over again. but lovren got nothing to worry, he will still be the 1st name of teamsheet every week
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Fucker lovrenn keep seeing linesman for whatttt
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Kane 2 - liverpool 0
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Good try from Son, wow.
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QUOTE(Adell G @ Oct 22 2017, 11:16 PM)
Fucker lovrenn keep seeing linesman for whatttt
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His lifeline when he fucked up
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All it takes some shitty mispass and boom counter attack
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Confidence are totally out...
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Heavy metal football for you boys.



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lol...this squad is just not good enough.

The hammering of a pub team in Maribor gave the impression that Liverpool is among the elite but in reality we are just not there yet.

Mid table squad at best.
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i smart

i chose not to watch because i knew this is coming

quick turn it off before 5-0

save yourselves
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That's what you get. A manager who can't even attract players despite playing in UCL.
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Cmonnnn salah
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Despite the shitty defence and mispass, possession is still ours for taking
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Salah doing the right thing.
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I already fucking forget how long we have been criticising Lovren, and yet he still is the first choice CB, a literally cibai.
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I already fucking forget how long we have been criticising Lovren, and yet he still is the first choice CB, a literally cibai.
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The only thing right with us is Salah. tongue.gif
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ox coming in, whos injured?
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Oct 22 2017, 11:26 PM)
I already fucking forget how long we have been criticising Lovren, and yet he still is the first choice CB, a literally cibai.
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well we had a very good defender but he was sold to Crystal Palace.

At least we don't have to watch Gini stand around the pitch today.
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The only thing right with us is Salah. tongue.gif
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Wow how is Lovren not get shot yet lol
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look at the sub list, only klavan available....can we play Can as cb instead?
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And Lovren almost cost another goal. How many bad defence he want to make in a game? doh.gif
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Whats the formation now that lovren is subbed?
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Big big decision by the manager.
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Lmao, even Klopp is fed up with Lovren, so what formation we having now?
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Gomez in the middle and milner/ox on the right?

by the way, i hope that it's stipulated that he gets 50k deducted for every mistake he makes, we cant be paying for that kind of quality
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3-4-3 now?
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3-6-1 formation, lets go down gun blazing with our bare ass exposed
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Now tottenham start to feel the wrath of heavy metal football biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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Much more see-saw game now. Liverpool is obviously chasing it, but Spurs still eagerly looking for another goal to kill off the game instead of soaking up the pressure.
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Hahahah fucking shittt defensee
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Rubbish. Typical Liverpool.

Forget that Spurs are doing exceptionally well this season. Liverpool is rubbish, pure.
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What a blow, just before half-time.
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Can is also shite today... sooo many mis passes and caused another goal..
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Emre can go for free the sooner the better
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QUOTE(Adell G @ Oct 22 2017, 11:49 PM)
Emre can go for free the sooner the better
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Him, Moreno and Lovren.
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not even a threatening set piece and we still concede a goal
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We are not man down yet..we can recover in the second half..a draw is a gift at this point
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Seem like it... been rubbish these few games. Hope Juve wont change their mind.
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Players attitude are dissapointing, body language like lose already

Maybe the maribor win deluded the entire team
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U guys got miss sakho? I still live in the pass couldn't move on and dreamt he still with us.
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Adam: "57% of fans polled said they were furious at Lovren's performance..."

McMahon: "57%? I thought it would be more than that."
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QUOTE(ray123 @ Oct 22 2017, 11:56 PM)
Adam: "57% of fans polled said they were furious at Lovren's performance..."

McMahon: "57%? I thought it would be more than that."
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The others must be glad lovren put a shittiest performance lol

Dunno if klopp magic is wearing thin or not but hopefully he can motivate the players, at least no more shitty mispass and easily lose possesion
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U guys got miss sakho? I still live in the pass  couldn't move on and dreamt he still with us.
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The ego of a certain manager is just too big. Now it comes haunting him.
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if you guys think lovren is our worst then you guys are wrong, behind lovren there is still klavan
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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Oct 23 2017, 12:00 AM)
The ego of a certain manager is just too big. Now it comes haunting him.
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I think not having a proper replacement for Sakho is what haunting him
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Oct 22 2017, 11:55 PM)
U guys got miss sakho? I still live in the pass  couldn't move on and dreamt he still with us.
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that is one of the stains of Klopp with us, imo, could very well be the biggest one.
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QUOTE(farisq @ Oct 23 2017, 12:03 AM)
I think not having a proper replacement for Sakho is what haunting him
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Selling before getting a proper replacement is just suicidal, as proven so far.
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FSG's moneyball policy backfiring BIG TIME, and since Klopp is siding with the owners, than he is to blame as well.


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How to replace? Klopp said he watched 99865 other defenders but none is better than lovren. Bar vvd. But that one oso still not join us.
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How to replace? Klopp said he watched 99865 other defenders but none is better than lovren. Bar vvd. But that one oso still not join us.
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after tonight performances, klopp will offer lovren a new 10 years contract
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Liverpool cant defend well and cant handle high pressing, rely on attacking alone and now totally exposed
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Yahoo... another 4 bijiks
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Fuck offf this shitt team
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This is turning into a comedy...
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There is a huge gap in quality between the top 4 and the rest of the league.

Prepare for some humiliation.
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Good... at least i can sleep early now

Make it 9-1 ... and i dont care
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Last year was "robin hood" year.. this year is "being raped" year... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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Mig wants to prove he's a better idiot than Lovren
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You don't lose 5-0 to Man City and 4-1 to Spurs because of bad defenders.

You lose 5-0 and 4-1 because you have a manager who can't deal with the league.
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Seriously, Ancelotti is available wink.gif
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Still doesn't learn eh Klopp. The defence really a joke.
The whole team is a joke.
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7th, here we come!

Seriously we suck. Time to question Klopp's methods
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QUOTE(Darth Vaper @ Oct 23 2017, 12:18 AM)
Seriously, Ancelotti is available  wink.gif
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With current crop of player, even Ancelotti couldn't do anything. Same with Rafa.
FSG out first then only hunt for suitable manager.

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Are our players worse than Spurs? I don't think so.

Manager? Most likely.
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I'd be lying if I said we don't see this coming before the start of the season.

The signs were there. We had the entire window to sort out our defense but NO, we had to pick that one defender we know that we wont get. All the haggling and speculations were totally nauseous to a club of our stature. And we sold the one good defender we had.

LOL heavy metal football. Nice ring to it.

What are we gonna do now? Score 4 goals?
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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Oct 23 2017, 12:20 AM)
7th, here we come!

Seriously we suck. Time to question Klopp's methods
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With these kind of performance, 7th can consider good achievement. doh.gif
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Look at that harry kane alone destroy our defense

What the hell are they doing at melwood seriously?
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Based on current situation, it some part of me wish that we will be at the bottom group of the table so that FSG will abandon the sinking ship and we will start fresh again.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLqpcARi2Hc

Watch this and feel better. Wodgers can do better.
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Oct 23 2017, 12:21 AM)
Are our players worse than Spurs? I don't think so.

Manager? Most likely.
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Lovren vs Vertonghen
Mig vs Lloris
Hendo vs Demble (usual starter)
Can vs Alli
Firmino vs Kane

I know who i would pick from those options. In fact, I think only Cout could get into Spurs line up, just beat Eriksen by a whisker. Maybe Mane & Salah too
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henderson play defensive midfield role but cannot defend at all..lovren bodoh..mignolet stupid..see how hloris save..stupid mignolet cannot punch the ball
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who wanna bet both merseyside team gonna lose 5-2 today

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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Oct 23 2017, 12:26 AM)
Lovren vs Vertonghen
Mig vs Lloris
Hendo vs Demble (usual starter)
Can vs Alli
Firmino vs Kane

I know who i would pick from those options. In fact, I think only Cout could get into Spurs line up, just beat Eriksen by a whisker. Maybe Mane & Salah too
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Be grateful with what we have now. A year from now, all these players will want to leave Liverpool for greener pastures and replaced by some British nobodies from Championship league.

Under FSG, we are just gonna get worse.

If you think Klopp is bad, wait til you get donkeys like Sam Allardyce or Woy Hogdson to manage us. Oh wai.....
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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Oct 23 2017, 12:26 AM)
Lovren vs Vertonghen
Mig vs Lloris
Hendo vs Demble (usual starter)
Can vs Alli
Firmino vs Kane

I know who i would pick from those options. In fact, I think only Cout could get into Spurs line up, just beat Eriksen by a whisker. Maybe Mane & Salah too
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Well, Mr Klopp chose to spend 40M on Ox and keep saying mig's a good goalkeeper. haha

Bournemouth only lose 1-0 lol

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 23 2017, 12:29 AM)
Be grateful with what we have now. A year from now, all these players will want to leave Liverpool for greener pastures and replaced by some British nobodies from Championship league.

Under FSG, we are just gonna get worse.

If you think Klopp is bad, wait til you get donkeys like Sam Allardyce or Woy Hogdson to manage us. Oh wai.....
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Not even sure if FSG is to be blamed because the manager wouldnt say so, therefore i'm looking at the manager now
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Oct 23 2017, 12:30 AM)
Well, Mr Klopp chose to spend 40M on Ox and keep saying mig's a good goalkeeper. haha

Bournemouth only lose 1-0 lol
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Mourinho must left wondering why he didnt set up his team to attack lol
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I want Rafa back...only with him we manage to be good in defence... also wishing for oil rich Sheikh to buy Liverpool (the most regretable decision made bg David Moores).
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Geez klopp what took u so long to take out emre
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QUOTE(manx @ Oct 23 2017, 12:37 AM)
I want Rafa back...only with him we manage to be good in defence... also wishing for oil rich Sheikh to buy Liverpool (the most regretable decision made bg David Moores).
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It is only when you lose something only you'll appreciate it~ I had been hoping Rafa leaves in 2010, but after that I genuinely hoped he'd never left Liverpool sad.gif
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Even Stevie Wonder can see how bad Mignolet is. But not Klopp.
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QUOTE(manx @ Oct 23 2017, 12:37 AM)
I want Rafa.With him we manage to be good in defence... also wishing for oil rich Sheikh to buy Liverpool (the most regretable decision made bg David Moores).
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rafa make the newcastle defend look solid eventhough he doesnt get transfer kitty like kloop..
to be honest, I dont see problem with FSG..
we spend millions...salah n chamberlain cost us almost 100milions. dont count the net spend..before FSG era we only settle with player like pennant or free transfer but benitez able to bring us into two CL final and formidable force at europe.
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Oct 23 2017, 12:48 AM)
Even Stevie Wonder can see how bad Mignolet is. But not Klopp.
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U mean even stevie wonder can see how our defense sucks but not klopp?
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We dont have proper GK, defender and striker. Only tons of midfielders. Its gonna be a tough year again.
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Poor Coutinho stuck with this team and manager.

Feels like Klopp is the next Souness.
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"It's just October"

Like some fans would say.
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how was Ox performance today?

any criticism/praise?
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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Oct 23 2017, 12:26 AM)
henderson play defensive midfield role but cannot defend at all..lovren bodoh..mignolet stupid..see how hloris save..stupid mignolet cannot punch the ball
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to be fair the ball was going towards him, not away from him. or else it will be unreachable.

QUOTE(Adell G @ Oct 23 2017, 12:36 AM)
Mourinho must left wondering why he didnt set up his team to attack lol
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exactly, not a risk taker I guess
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This geggen pressing shit is easily undone by:-
1) park bus
2) high pressing
3) shit defenders
4) shit keeper
5) shit defense formation (set piece leakage)

All the same shit like last season still no improvement, haihhh every game is the same....keep cursing the defense from last year till today still no change in tactics
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But then again, Liverpool only lost twice so far and both losses were against Man City and Tottenham. These 2 teams are this season's title contenders. As much as I dislike the way we're conceding goals each week as if we don't have a goalkeeper or defenders, I'd prefer to be optimistic.

Maybe things will eventually turn out well like last season. We may finish in top 4 if we can regain our form. Maybe, just maybe.
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I was hoping Solanke would come in. At least he will not be easily bullied.
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QUOTE(stickmanchong17 @ Oct 23 2017, 01:04 AM)
But then again, Liverpool only lost twice so far and both losses were against Man City and Tottenham. These 2 teams are this season's title contenders. As much as I dislike the way we're conceding goals each week as if we don't have a goalkeeper or defenders, I'd prefer to be optimistic.

Maybe things will eventually turn out well like last season. We may finish in top 4 if we can regain our form. Maybe, just maybe.
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Oh yes. We did lose to these 2 title contender teams. But klopp did not took safety approach. We still play the bread and butter heavy metal football. It is against Spurs away ffs. Id be happy if we can steal a point but no. No klopp dont have any other approach. He rly think we can steamroll pass spurs like we did to maribor eh?

Edit : and last seasons we have no problem against big team, just mid and lower team we have problem. This season we got problem with all teams it seems now.

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Wanted to say something, but not sure what to say.......... 7-0 and everyone was on cloud9, but now, reality bites back. Lovren was rate 0 by some pundits, I wonder if we can rate him -10
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QUOTE(stickmanchong17 @ Oct 23 2017, 01:04 AM)
But then again, Liverpool only lost twice so far and both losses were against Man City and Tottenham. These 2 teams are this season's title contenders. As much as I dislike the way we're conceding goals each week as if we don't have a goalkeeper or defenders, I'd prefer to be optimistic.

Maybe things will eventually turn out well like last season. We may finish in top 4 if we can regain our form. Maybe, just maybe.
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Yah, and kloppp will say, it's better to lose 4-1 rather than 4 X 1-0
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Don't be sad only few games lost, still have many games to go ..

You must believe in your manager no matter what happen

Don't look for short term smile.gif

Long term target like 5 years - 10 years
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Yah, and kloppp will say, it's better to lose 4-1 rather than 4 X 1-0
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Idiot statement. Klopp said as if we did won all league games before this. Klopp sembang kuat.
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Henderson is not a Liverpool captain material, enough said.
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you cant persist with center backs making basic mistakes almost every week.....basic mistakes...

the only positive from last night? Lovren was substituted before break...i hope its a sign ..


secondly...club have over 30 mil to sign a player to improve the first 11/squad, whichever......and then what happened?

They signed Ox....this is not getting James Milner for cheaps or bringing in Gary McAllister, Fowler second coming, etc...
This was millions...And i thought the signing of Mario is the undisputable biggest transfer joke...

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QUOTE(nando @ Oct 23 2017, 09:16 AM)
you cant persist with center backs making basic mistakes almost every week.....basic mistakes...

the only positive from last night? Lovren was substituted before break...i hope its a sign ..
secondly...club have over 30 mil to sign a player to improve the first 11/squad, whichever......and then what happened?

They signed Ox....this is not getting James Milner for cheaps or bringing in Gary McAllister, Fowler second coming, etc...
This was millions...And i thought the signing of Mario is the undisputable biggest transfer joke...
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Well it took Klopp and the coaching board 47 games to finally realise that Lovren is not playing his role as required.

Again, lack of misplaced “FAITH” by Klopp. Somewhat familiar? Story of our lives indeed. Yup, we gotta stop abusing that word as faith will not turn things around. Investment will.

All said and done, it’s another season of scrounging for CL playoff spot again. Never been so discouraged to watch Liverpool games now since Woy’s era.

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 23 2017, 09:26 AM)
Well it took Klopp and the coaching board 47 games to finally realise that Lovren is not playing his role as required.

Again, lack of misplaced “FAITH” by Klopp. Somewhat familiar? Story of our lives indeed. Yup, we gotta stop abusing that word as faith will not turn things around. Investment will.

All said and done, it’s another season of scrounging for CL playoff spot again. Never been so discouraged to watch Liverpool games now since Woy’s era.
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 23 2017, 09:26 AM)
Well it took Klopp and the coaching board 47 games to finally realise that Lovren is not playing his role as required.

Again, lack of misplaced “FAITH” by Klopp. Somewhat familiar? Story of our lives indeed. Yup, we gotta stop abusing that word as faith will not turn things around. Investment will.

All said and done, it’s another season of scrounging for CL playoff spot again. Never been so discouraged to watch Liverpool games now since Woy’s era.
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i do believe in giving chances...Vidic and even Carra was shaky at the back in early days of their career...
I would say Lovren deserved his chances earlier on....Brendan bought him , so it was understandable for Klopp to persist with him...tested him in various ways...formation, tactics etc.
I think many fans saw at the beginning of this season, this is flogging a dead horse. Hopefully, last night was the straw that broke the camel's back

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Klopp have all the time he had on the summer transfer windows to sign defenders, yet he hold on to Van Dijk until no time left. He could had retain Sakho, not happening too. I don fking believe there was no other CB available that are better than Lovren during the transfer windows, OX was totally no needed, yet we sign him with that price tag.

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heard that lovren deactivated his instagram acc due threat
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Liv defend and goal keeper is a big joke. Worst combination in epl.
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First 2 goals, Lovren mistake.
3rd goal - entire defense mistake
4th goal - clearly Mignolet's fault.

We are still suffering from poor defending, both in open play and against set pieces. We have not addressed the problem which has persists over the past 2-3 seasons.

Coutinho will leave in January, without looking like a douchebag. And then what? What happens when we stop scoring goals and still concede 2-3 goals per game?

Hello mid-table.
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1st goal actually Gomez played Kane onside, so not entirely Lovren's fault. But then yeah, to see him jog back towards the goal AFTER trying to get help from the linesman is a joke. This guy has no fight in him now, a walking disaster on the pitch.

Let's stick with Gomez in the middle, not gonna say it cant get worse cause the team can surprise u more than u like, but at least dude is young and can develop. Hopefully Milner can be convinced to take one for the team and rotate with TAA at RB while Clyne is recovering
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 23 2017, 10:06 AM)
First 2 goals, Lovren mistake.
3rd goal - entire defense mistake
4th goal - clearly Mignolet's fault.

We are still suffering from poor defending, both in open play and against set pieces. We have not addressed the problem which has persists over the past 2-3 seasons.

Coutinho will leave in January, without looking like a douchebag. And then what? What happens when we stop scoring goals and still concede 2-3 goals per game?

Hello mid-table.
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repeating same mistake over and over again, key players leaving because they got fed up. klopp = wenger, liverpool = arsenal 2.0
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repeating same mistake over and over again, key players leaving because they got fed up. klopp = wenger, liverpool = arsenal 2.0
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I think OX brings us bad luck....

As u can see, arsenal is winning again!! Hahaha
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During this difficult time, let me remind you all that Klopp offered Dejan Lovren a new deal worth 100k per week 6 months ago.

Jurgen Klopp. He knows only play one way. There is zero back up plan. No formation changes no matter what happens.

I think we might be the only club that has defensive issues for ages but never spend money to buy players. Klopp has been here for two years and the only CB he bought with money is Ragnar fucking Klavan for dirt cheap.

Next summer transfer window, it will be like "We have plenty of money to spend but we can't attract quality players without Champions league."

We bought Simon Mignolet to replace Pepe Reina who's now with Napoli sitting top of Serie A.
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The heck is happening to this club now, total disarray.
Not looking good atm guys, becoming a punching bag to the likes of Spurs, who we use to tapau years ago. My God.
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QUOTE(nando @ Oct 23 2017, 10:16 AM)
you cant persist with center backs making basic mistakes almost every week.....basic mistakes...

the only positive from last night? Lovren was substituted before break...i hope its a sign ..
secondly...club have over 30 mil to sign a player to improve the first 11/squad, whichever......and then what happened?

They signed Ox....this is not getting James Milner for cheaps or bringing in Gary McAllister, Fowler second coming, etc...
This was millions...And i thought the signing of Mario is the undisputable biggest transfer joke...
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QUOTE(champlaos11 @ Oct 23 2017, 08:46 PM)
During this difficult time, let me remind you all that Klopp offered Dejan Lovren a new deal worth 100k per week 6 months ago.

Jurgen Klopp. He knows only play one way. There is zero back up plan. No formation changes no matter what happens.

I think we might be the only club that has defensive issues for ages but never spend money to buy players. Klopp has been here for two years and the only CB he bought with money is Ragnar fucking Klavan for dirt cheap.

Next summer transfer window, it will be like "We have plenty of money to spend but we can't attract quality players without Champions league."

We bought Simon Mignolet to replace Pepe Reina who's now with Napoli sitting top of Serie A.
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We removed Pepe reina (whom was quite dark about his position then) because LFC, well FSG deemed he was earning too much.

Also many LFC fans thought Simon is far better stop keeper than reina was. (God the amount of goals conceded via keepers mistake is a slap in the face)
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Oct 23 2017, 09:32 PM)
We removed Pepe reina (whom was quite dark about his position then) because LFC, well FSG deemed he was earning too much.

Also many LFC fans thought Simon is far better stop keeper than reina was. (God the amount of goals conceded via keepers mistake is a slap in the face)
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I wanted Pepe out too. He was on the lowest point of his career.

Perhaps the problem lies in the goalkeeping coach?
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Wrong move Everton

"Evertonfc sacks ronald koeman"


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RONALD Koeman paid the price for Everton’s poor start to the season, losing his job with the team in the Premier League relegation zone despite spending about $200 million on new players.

The Dutchman was dismissed on Monday, two months into his second season in charge following a 5-2 loss to Arsenal on Sunday.

That left Everton without a win in its last five matches in all competitions.


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QUOTE(champlaos11 @ Oct 23 2017, 11:03 PM)
I wanted Pepe out too. He was on the lowest point of his career.

Perhaps the problem lies in the goalkeeping coach?
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No, it's pretty much between Reina vs Mignolet, reina is a better overall keeper. Something about mignolet that he may have excelled much in his previous club. (Granted i spoke about this several times) If he is kept busy by opponents and reasonably set of Centre backs his stats soars. But when your team dominates and staying focused is crucial as there aren't much to do but when the counter attacks raids in, it's about the ability to remained 100% without mistakes. It's already official now in terms of keepers mistake that lead to a goal, mignolet has committed the worse.

Also mignonet will never ever launch a quite counterattack via goalkeeper throw like the way spurs keeper did in their goal. Almost 4-5 secs when keeper throws into midfields area & pin point finds his players, boom.

While it's not all is lost about mignolet, once we settled ourselves with a better defensive midfielder and a proper centerbacks, mignolet can reverse that bad occasional lapses.
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QUOTE(champlaos11 @ Oct 23 2017, 08:46 PM)
During this difficult time, let me remind you all that Klopp offered Dejan Lovren a new deal worth 100k per week 6 months ago.

Jurgen Klopp. He knows only play one way. There is zero back up plan. No formation changes no matter what happens.

I think we might be the only club that has defensive issues for ages but never spend money to buy players. Klopp has been here for two years and the only CB he bought with money is Ragnar fucking Klavan for dirt cheap.

Next summer transfer window, it will be like "We have plenty of money to spend but we can't attract quality players without Champions league."

We bought Simon Mignolet to replace Pepe Reina who's now with Napoli sitting top of Serie A.
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At that time, LFC isn't gonna spend any for defenders. A proper better Centre back begins at 40mil. Throw him under the bus by Klopp? Klopp won't. (Unlike Sakho situation is very different with Klopp)


QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 23 2017, 01:29 AM)
Be grateful with what we have now. A year from now, all these players will want to leave Liverpool for greener pastures and replaced by some British nobodies from Championship league.

Under FSG, we are just gonna get worse.

If you think Klopp is bad, wait til you get donkeys like Sam Allardyce or Woy Hogdson to manage us. Oh wai.....
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Exactly. It's more probably Sam gets a mention in the pool of managers or even final round 😝


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Next, Huddlesfield Town at home. So worry if Lovren starts again. Every opponent knows on how to deal with him already.
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Oct 23 2017, 11:02 PM)
At that time, LFC isn't gonna spend any for defenders. A proper better Centre back begins at 40mil. Throw him under the bus by Klopp? Klopp won't. (Unlike Sakho situation is very different with Klopp)
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But 6 months later, we spent 35M on a not even proper wanna be CM on Ox.

Even at that time, Klopp had been here for 18 months. It is still a big mystery why Klopp still don't see Lovren as a problem at that time.
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Next, Huddlesfield Town at home. So worry if Lovren starts again. Every opponent knows on how to deal with him already.
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And no one knows klopp better than wagner. It's going to be a tough fixture.

As for our defense, perhaps klopp will try Gomez+Matip in the center and TAA on the right.
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Liverpool now ready to sanction Coutinho move

Another good player bites the dust, instead of looking to reinforce in the summer, now they want to sell him off. Liverpool increasingly looking like the new Crystal Palace.

#FSGout
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Liverpool now ready to sanction Coutinho move

Another good player bites the dust, instead of looking to reinforce in the summer, now they want to sell him off. Liverpool increasingly looking like the new Crystal Palace.

#FSGout
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Expecting...
"No one is bigger than the club"
"No point keeping an unhappy player"
"The money is there to spend" but "Hard to sign a good player in January window"
A list of hundreds potential replacements and hundreds more crappy excuses



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QUOTE(sahathai @ Oct 24 2017, 11:45 PM)
Expecting...
"No one is bigger than the club"
"No point keeping an unhappy player"
"The money is there to spend" but "Hard to sign a good player in January window"
A list of hundreds potential replacements and hundreds more crappy excuses
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yeah, since 2011. forever 'rebuilding'.
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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Oct 25 2017, 12:20 AM)
yeah, since 2011. forever 'rebuilding'.
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Fundamentally, we are not doing things befitting a club of our stature.

We are selling our best players

We continue to buy cheap and unproven talents

We continue to buy overpriced British players

We are not acting fast enough in the transfer market and constantly being priced out by sellers;

We are putting too much blind faith on underperforming players; and refuse to upgrade.

Liverpool’s fall from grace is not an overnight effect. It’s accumulation of all the dumb decisions above season after season that led to our demise. And still they didn’t learn their lesson.

With FSG as our owners, nothing will go right for this club. You can have the world’s best manager in our stable but no it won’t change a thing. Yes I said it. Don’t even ‘it’s still October” me FFS.

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QUOTE(sahathai @ Oct 24 2017, 11:45 PM)
Expecting...
"No one is bigger than the club"
"No point keeping an unhappy player"
"The money is there to spend" but "Hard to sign a good player in January window"
A list of hundreds potential replacements and hundreds more crappy excuses
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honestly I was damn upset about the whole thing before the season started. but now, meh. I think good players deserve to play for good clubs.

so yea, thanks for everything little magician. adios.

and adios top 4.

we've taken 5 steps back this season, really.
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Defenders dont make money, simple.

Well, Klopp is a yes man that is why FSG hired him to begin with I guess. But no diff then any other manager when it comes to being a yes manager. Look at Rafa, what happened to him, sacked.

FSG just want to buy attackers as it is easy to sell them on for massive profits.
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Defenders dont make money, simple.

Well, Klopp is a yes man that is why FSG hired him to begin with I guess. But no diff then any other manager when it comes to being a yes manager. Look at Rafa, what happened to him, sacked.

FSG just want to buy attackers as it is easy to sell them on for massive profits.
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Look managing Liverpoolfc is an interesting option, Klopp was available and it didn't take much to convince but I'm sure some ground rules were established.

Also for many times we know Klopp never throws a player under the bus publicly. No snide remarks, no sarcasm aim wth his players. Many managers, many top managers claim the protect the players but they do throw them under the bus to save their/his own skin.

Is Klopp similar with Brendan? a yes man. Yes & No. On surface they do, i think we seen that but I believe Klopp has more respect from the players than Brendan had in the period Brendan Rodgers was grasping at some stability or direction of the team.

Klopp however has higher standard but while we have a better overall "squad" than of Rodgers, we don't have world class players. consistent. zero zilch. we had guard, gerrard on our "marvellous' 2nd place but phhht. both gone.
We can nominate Couthinho but hey look, deep inside he wanted to abandon ship. really.

We need to build around Couthinho, but can we?
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 25 2017, 09:07 AM)
Fundamentally, we are not doing things befitting a club of our stature.

We are selling our best players

We continue to buy cheap and unproven talents

We continue to buy overpriced British players

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We continue to reward mediocre players with new contract and higher paid. Something is seriously wrong.

QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 25 2017, 09:14 AM)
honestly I was damn upset about the whole thing before the season started. but now, meh. I think good players deserve to play for good clubs.

so yea, thanks for everything little magician. adios.

and adios top 4.

we've taken 5 steps back this season, really.
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This always happens when we got into champions league. When we get the 4th place, we always thought we could attract better players only to be let down by our management team who is taking charge of transfer activities.

QUOTE(koolspyda @ Oct 25 2017, 03:16 PM)
Is Klopp similar with Brendan? a yes man. Yes & No. On surface they do, i think we seen that but I believe Klopp has more respect from the players than Brendan had in the period Brendan Rodgers was grasping at some stability or direction of the team.

Klopp however has higher standard but while we have a better overall "squad" than of Rodgers, we don't have world class players. consistent. zero zilch. we had guard, gerrard on our "marvellous' 2nd place but phhht. both gone.
We can nominate Couthinho but hey look, deep inside he wanted to abandon ship. really.

We need to build around Couthinho, but can we?
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Look at the line up vs Spurs during the weekend. Out of the 11, only 2 players are bought by Klopp. You could say this is not Klopp's team yet but it's been two years so why can't he be more ruthless and get better players? It's his stubbornness to continue to stick with mediocre players. During his first year at Dortmund, he sold 18 players who were deemed not good enough. So what change? At Dortmund he had plenty of help from Sporting Director Zorc and their scouting is fantastic. So he has no choice at LFC but to stick with mediocre and pray they will turn out good because he rather put faith on players than our scouts?

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Our youngster Rhian Brewster has scored back to back hat trick vs USA (quarter final) and yesterday vs Brazil (semi final) at U17 World Cup. Currently top scorer at U17 tournament.

Another news, Naby Keita has been sent off 3 times in one month.
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QUOTE(champlaos11 @ Oct 26 2017, 08:05 AM)
Our youngster Rhian Brewster has scored back to back hat trick vs USA (quarter final) and yesterday vs Brazil (semi final) at U17 World Cup. Currently top scorer at U17 tournament.

Another news, Naby Keita has been sent off 3 times in one month.
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Looks like Keita is the player we have been missing, but he needs to clamp down his aggression a little bit, or channel it into his plays.
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Does Klopp really know how to develop youth as claimed?

Solanke was player of the youth world cup but he only makes a few appearances from the bench. Is he or Firmino better at finishing? How about Solanke vs Sturridge? Now we have Rhian Brewster who is currently topscoring in the Under17 world cup. What about Ben Woodward - how about his finishing?

These guys are young and naturally good, but how long is Klopp going to KIV them?!

In the meanwhile, he is persisting with Firmino, who is not an out-and-out striker, Sturridge who is demotivated and on the way down and Salah who is really an excellent attacking midfielder! So, when these guys cannot regularly finish the moves, Klopp gets the defenders to move up and join in - yes, attack! So, when our attack breaks down and the opposing team launch a counter attack, we concede!!

So Mr Klopp, are you going to reinforce your defence in January? Yes, of course.
What kind of defenders will you be looking for? Those who can attack, of course!

It may be an embarrassing season for us.
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Sturridge has lost his finishing touch so firmino's creativity and link up play is more valuable assets at the moment. But for a striker it's all about scoring goals. If firmino can't improve his finishing then maybe we need a reinforcement. Perhaps klopp should reduce firmino's workload on the pitch. Wasting too much energy on pressing, chasing, track back.. he's all over the pitch.


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QUOTE(RedSiglap56 @ Oct 26 2017, 11:06 AM)
So Mr Klopp, are you going to reinforce your defence in January? Yes, of course.
What kind of defenders will you be looking for? Those who can attack, of course!
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January? Klopp and FSG will be like...

"look guys, summer window was supposed to be easier but even during summer window we couldn't get anyone who's good enough to join us. Winter window is notoriously hard to get players. No club wants to sell in the middle of the season. We have tried bidding for players but the clubs just won't sell. There is nothing we can do."

QUOTE(sahathai @ Oct 26 2017, 11:53 AM)
Sturridge has lost his finishing touch so firmino's creativity and link up play is more valuable assets at the moment. But for a striker it's all about scoring goals. If firmino can't improve his finishing then maybe we need a reinforcement. Perhaps klopp should reduce firmino's workload on the pitch. Wasting too much energy on pressing, chasing, track back.. he's all over the pitch.
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Klopp rates Firmino too high to drop him. He even said that it does not matter if Firmino isn't scoring enough. What matters is his off the ball movement, pressing etc.
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That little imaginary 'interview' was meant to be sarcastic. It is aimed that Klopp's orientation and attitude, not about buying or selling. Klopp has to sort himself out first and foremost.

Since you wrote about the January window, I actually remembered that Liverpool bought Sturridge, Coutinho and (my goodness) Luis Suarez (!!) in the January window. It's willing seller-willing buyer. Looks like there are willing sellers out there even in January!
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QUOTE(RedSiglap56 @ Oct 27 2017, 03:43 PM)
That little imaginary 'interview' was meant to be sarcastic. It is aimed that Klopp's orientation and attitude, not about buying or selling. Klopp has to sort himself out first and foremost.

Since you wrote about the January window, I actually remembered that Liverpool bought Sturridge, Coutinho and (my goodness) Luis Suarez (!!) in the January window. It's willing seller-willing buyer. Looks like there are willing sellers out there even in January!
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Better sort himself out, this guy is about to lose my vote of confidence if he can’t fix it.




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Coutinho out for at least 3 matches.
Who will be starting? Ox (a direct LW replacement) or Struj (move firmino to LW)?

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Carragher suggested none of them are even interested in winning the Premier League, with money their only ambition.



That's right carragher 👍🏻👍🏻 Americans
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"Look, I don’t wish on one of you that all your mistakes are discussed in public. You cannot even imagine, you have not even an idea about how it feels. The boys, in the first case, are still human beings. It’s kind of like watching an accident and there are people standing around with smartphones instead of helping - I am not this kind of person.

"We had a normal week and, of course, it was not the nicest week in Dejan’s life, but at the end, it’s only football. We have to know about this and people don’t become a better or worse person after making a mistake in a football game so that’s how it is. If I think about Dejan, I have much more positive things that I can think about than negative things, still. That’s easy if you want to do it.

"He is a player of @liverpoolfc and that’s how I treat him, as a member of this family, and it is clear that I will help him if I think I have to help him. It’s up to you what you make of stories like this [Lovren removing a references to the club on his Instagram profile] - if you celebrate yourself and are happy with having stories like this or if you cool down because the world of social media is difficult enough to handle.

"That’s why I am not on it, I have no idea why people are doing it to be honest. Everything is OK, Dejan had a good training week, we will see what we will do tomorrow for the game. It’s not about the last game in general, it’s about the next one. For Huddersfield, we will go for what we think will be the best line-up."
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Klopp didn't say the same when Moreno messed up in UCL finals & put him in cold storage for almost a season. Sakho too.
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Coutinho out for at least 3 matches.
Who will be starting? Ox (a direct LW replacement) or Struj (move firmino to LW)?
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All hope lies on salah.....
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Klopp didn't say the same when Moreno messed up in UCL finals & put him in cold storage for almost a season. Sakho too.
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Well, Klopp had improve Lovren's contract to six figures, kept saying that no one is better than him in the market, soooo convinced that he is a world class defender... So do you think klopp would admit that he has made a totally bad judgement? Even thou he could finally realized how shitty lovren really is, i don't think klopp will give him the same treatment as we are already short in that position.
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QUOTE(sahathai @ Oct 28 2017, 11:40 AM)
Well, Klopp had improve Lovren's contract to six figures, kept saying that no one is better than him in the market, soooo convinced that he is a world class defender... So do you think klopp would admit that he has made a totally bad judgement? Even thou he could finally realized how shitty lovren really is, i don't think klopp will give him the same treatment as we are already short in that position.
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Yeah, well, if he keep Lovren aside, then he'll need to answer to FSG as why Lovren was given the contract extension. A really bad judgement. Of course Klopp won't admit it but us fans can see it.

Let's see whether subbing Lovren before HT will become a norm in upcoming games.
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QUOTE(sahathai @ Oct 28 2017, 11:40 AM)
Well, Klopp had improve Lovren's contract to six figures, kept saying that no one is better than him in the market, soooo convinced that he is a world class defender... So do you think klopp would admit that he has made a totally bad judgement? Even thou he could finally realized how shitty lovren really is, i don't think klopp will give him the same treatment as we are already short in that position.
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That's one of the reasons why Klopp has to take a good look at himself in the mirror.

He is a good coach, probably a better one than Rodgers. However, it's a bit of a mess now and if he continues to think he is right, then things may become so bad that he will end up like BR. That'll be a pity and I don't think it will help LFC this season either. Yes, a good coach must have a good degree of confidence in himself, granted. We don't want a coach who changes his line-up whenever he hears that fans are not happy. Such a coach probably doesn't know what he's doing. Nevertheless, the results shout the loudest and our kind of results have to be 'listened to' now!

If LFC really have to hunt for another manager soon, I hope they get someone who won't talk so much.
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Lovren start. GGWP!
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Hmmmmm midfield devoid of idea
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QUOTE(wts6819 @ Oct 28 2017, 09:33 PM)
Lovren start. GGWP!
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At least now I know I didn't see wrongly. Injured during warm up it seems, hopefully for the better.
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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Oct 28 2017, 10:12 PM)
At least now I know I didn't see wrongly. Injured during warm up it seems, hopefully for the better.
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you think klavan better than lovren?
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Hmmmmm midfield devoid of idea
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Sadly that's normal for current squad . just hope a moment of brilliance an individual will just pop up .
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QUOTE(redrum77 @ Oct 28 2017, 10:16 PM)
Sadly that's normal for current squad . just hope a moment of brilliance an individual will just pop up .
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At least the trio of salah studge and firminho looks decent enough just need to pass the ball to them
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Look at all this mispass....amazinggg
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QUOTE(Adell G @ Oct 28 2017, 10:34 PM)
Look at all this mispass....amazinggg
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i thought im alone thinking that way. biggrin.gif
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morale must be really low among the players..the number of wrong passes is freaking high
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and penetration is really bad.
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Damnnnn salaahh penalty taker
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Y no milner take penalty??!
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why salah not milner?
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that was a free penalty and liverpool still can screw that up
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Seriously why Salah? Why not Milner? I hope its not Salah himself who ask for the kick. doh.gif
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Oct 28 2017, 10:45 PM)
Seriously why Salah? Why not Milner? I hope its not Salah himself who ask for the kick. doh.gif
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he scored for egpyt, so he's the main penalty taker now.
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Very disjointed performance....morale is too low even penalty cannot score

Only firminho and salah try to beat defenders others hoofing the ball and pass sideways to infinity
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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Oct 28 2017, 10:46 PM)
he scored for egpyt, so he's the main penalty taker now.
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C'mon everyone knows salah is not a good shooter..

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QUOTE(wts6819 @ Oct 28 2017, 10:48 PM)
So? Milner take better a lot of time
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Ha ha. Not funny.
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klopp appointed him as main taker.

http://www.empireofthekop.com/2017/10/13/k...-penalty-taker/
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Ref help us gave penalty oso we kenot take advantage. Gg liao
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Not many ref will give it...

Shitty quality all over the pitch... I trust Matip more to bring the ball fwd than all our midfield. Cant believe that we bought a defender of klavan quality. It's like we haven't replaced lovren at all.

Naby kieta will be questioning his decision to join us with this kind of performance.
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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Oct 28 2017, 10:49 PM)
Probably appointed him bcos of sentimental value only....doh.gif
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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Oct 28 2017, 10:49 PM)
brilliant from klopp, he change things that doesnt need to be fixed and do nothing on things that do
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QUOTE(farisq @ Oct 28 2017, 10:53 PM)
Not many ref will give it...

Shitty quality all over the pitch... I trust Matip more to bring the ball fwd than all our midfield. Cant believe that we bought a defender of klavan quality. It's like we haven't replaced lovren at all.

Naby kieta will be questioning his decision to join us with this kind of performance.
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THIS

Very bodo leh...in every game matip will try open up the opponent defense himself...while our midfield no balls to take on defenders and only pass sideway only
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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Oct 28 2017, 10:49 PM)
Itu team egypt. Ini Liverpool.
Either klopp or fsg do this to boost Salah popularity and value! (Can sell higher later)

Milner must be saying "now take that suckerr. U think u reached my level yet? 10 years too early brat"
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this is one of the weakest midfield we ever fielded
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Finally we capitalised on their mistake
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rare case of opponent making so many mistakes, this time sturridge took his chances
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Oooohhh damn what a chance
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Fucking Gini keep on mispass despite zero pressure from the opponent. Luckily all those mispass is without the opponent nearby. Wtf is he doing on the pitch anyway. doh.gif
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Who play striker then?
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Oct 28 2017, 11:19 PM)
Fucking Gini keep on mispass despite zero pressure from the opponent. Luckily all those mispass is without the opponent nearby. Wtf is he doing on the pitch anyway. doh.gif
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Hes trying to score an odd goals out of nowhere
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Gini scored lol
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Hes trying to score an odd goals out of nowhere
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Lol. Quality goal there by him, kudos.
Huddersfield totally lost their spirit after the first goal in the early.min of second half.
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you guys forget this is home game? of course gini will perform better than usual
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Great, we actually beat Huddersfield
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After the lacklustre first half, we managed to comeback stronger and penetrate huddersfield defense

Finally a win in PL after series of draw and losses, if only we can maintain this kind of intensity all season long
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So good to have a win and 3 points. Clean sheet is a bonus.
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you guys forget this is home game? of course gini will perform better than usual
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Got to give him credit for that quality goal there.

But nop, he is still shit. As usual missing in the midfield, then lurking at the front asking for ball but doesnt open up spaces. Not to mention tons of heavy and mispass to teammate despite no pressure from opponent.
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Also, we able to score from set piece. Once in a blue moon tu..
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Good result tonight. Clean sheet and 3 points. Hope this will continue. Average performance by the team but they got the job done im Happy with that.

Lovren is shit as usual. Even though he don't play. And ffs give back milner to be 1st penalty taker.
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Finally Firmino and Sturridge score tonight. Great result:)

Highlights: https://fotzone.com/2017/10/28/liverpool-3-...eld-highlights/
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Let's not get carried away here. We were really poor in the first half, it was like watching 11 strangers playing together for the first time.

It took a defensive error from their end to open up the game with the first goal. After that it opened even wider with a rare set piece goal. The third was just a bonus because they were chasing the game.

Most important takeaway from the game is that we still struggle to break down buses unless we're fortunate enough to be gifted a goal. The lack of creativity from midfield is more apparent than ever and this is as urgent as fixing our defence in my opinion.
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"Jurgen Klopp has been assured he’ll have every penny of Philippe Coutinho’s transfer fee available to reinvest- if the Brazilian leaves."

FSG has started their PR move.

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QUOTE(sahathai @ Oct 29 2017, 08:01 PM)
"Jurgen Klopp has been assured he’ll have every penny of Philippe Coutinho’s transfer fee available to reinvest- if the Brazilian leaves."

FSG has started their PR move.
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Sure even Southampton will remain steadfast on their VVD and won't back down for cheap.

It's suggested money will go to VVD n 1 extra player. Looks like we never had provisions for VVD in the first place (when everyone said LFC shdnt give in to high demands from Southampton)

Sterling, Suarez and probably couthinho big money sale. Rodgers had the backing for big transfers (over 3 1/2years) Klopp not quite there yet (FSG board)

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The genius in Klopp already spent half of it on Ox la.

Even if he get every penny, not sure what player he can attract. Can't even attract VVD.

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The genius in Klopp already spent half of it on Ox la.

Even if he get every penny, not sure what player he can attract. Can't even attract VVD.
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Even Klopp was surprised with Ox last minute signing. He's a club signing to break even our transfer business. Another season with positive net spending will put the owner under heavier criticisms. Most managers don't have a luxury like Wenger to has full control over players signing. This is not FM game and it's not how we operate.
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QUOTE(sahathai @ Oct 31 2017, 11:08 PM)
Even Klopp was surprised with Ox last minute signing. He's a club signing to break even our transfer business. Another season with positive net spending will put the owner under heavier criticisms. Most managers don't have a luxury like Wenger to has full control over players signing. This is not FM game and it's not how we operate.
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Show me a source saying he didn't want to sign Oxlade.
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Oct 31 2017, 10:46 PM)
The genius in Klopp already spent half of it on Ox la.

Even if he get every penny, not sure what player he can attract. Can't even attract VVD.
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VVD want to play for klopp..heck even liv prepare to pay soton demand..but when selling club dont wanna sell, u cant do anything about it..same case like coutinho



this blaming everything on klopp thing are getting ridiculous
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QUOTE(leftist @ Nov 1 2017, 09:24 AM)
VVD want to play for klopp..heck even liv prepare to pay soton demand..but when selling club dont wanna sell, u cant do anything about it..same case like coutinho
this blaming everything on klopp thing are getting ridiculous
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not blindly blame la. We are upset that the club don't provide backup solution if plan A didn't work.
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Nov 1 2017, 09:59 AM)
not blindly blame la. We are upset that the club don't provide backup solution if plan A didn't work.
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maybe the plan B player not up to quality expected by klopp?



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QUOTE(leftist @ Nov 1 2017, 09:24 AM)
VVD want to play for klopp..heck even liv prepare to pay soton demand..but when selling club dont wanna sell, u cant do anything about it..same case like coutinho
this blaming everything on klopp thing are getting ridiculous
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maybe the plan B player not up to quality expected by klopp?
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plan B player not up to quality? you mean there are no better player than lovren and klavan available? do you realize how dumb you sound? sorry i was not trying to personal attack you but this season failure is completely klopp fault. let me list down why

1) no plan B on tactic. last season bpl teams already know how to break liverpool play. this season liverpool still playing the same tactic, there is a reason why we score much less and concede more goals this season
2) defensive problem actually got worse compare to br era. we need more than just vvd, you cant expect vvd alone to solve all liverpool defensive issue
3) ox signing is the dumbest signing in recent times, we overpaid a player we dont need with just a year contract left. klopp suppose to have control in all transfers and if he didnt know, then something is really wrong with the whole transfer committee.

having said that, im giving klopp one more season to fix the above issues. im treating this season as a lost cause, anything good (a trophy or top 4) will be treated as a bonus.
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Nov 1 2017, 10:35 AM)
plan B player not up to quality? you mean there are no better player than lovren and klavan available? do you realize how dumb you sound? sorry i was not trying to personal attack you but this season failure is completely klopp fault. let me list down why

1) no plan B on tactic. last season bpl teams already know how to break liverpool play. this season liverpool still playing the same tactic, there is a reason why we score much less and concede more goals this season
2) defensive problem actually got worse compare to br era. we need more than just vvd, you cant expect vvd alone to solve all liverpool defensive issue
3) ox signing is the dumbest signing in recent times, we overpaid a player we dont need with just a year contract left. klopp suppose to have control in all transfers and if he didnt know, then something is really wrong with the whole transfer committee.

having said that, im giving klopp one more season to fix the above issues. im treating this season as a lost cause, anything good (a trophy or top 4) will be treated as a bonus.
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to be honest i dont know why klopp dont want to buy other defender..same like all of us here


Im just replying a post that said klopp cant attract player like VVD..thats absolutely not true



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Ya can't get VVD, there should be a good number of defenders who would want to come. Yet, he sold Sakho who in my opinion is our best defender, and continued starting Lovren and Mignolet who in my opinion won't even start for Everton.

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