plan B player not up to quality? you mean there are no better player than lovren and klavan available? do you realize how dumb you sound? sorry i was not trying to personal attack you but this season failure is completely klopp fault. let me list down why

1) no plan B on tactic. last season bpl teams already know how to break liverpool play. this season liverpool still playing the same tactic, there is a reason why we score much less and concede more goals this season
2) defensive problem actually got worse compare to br era. we need more than just vvd, you cant expect vvd alone to solve all liverpool defensive issue
3) ox signing is the dumbest signing in recent times, we overpaid a player we dont need with just a year contract left. klopp suppose to have control in all transfers and if he didnt know, then something is really wrong with the whole transfer committee.

having said that, im giving klopp one more season to fix the above issues. im treating this season as a lost cause, anything good (a trophy or top 4) will be treated as a bonus.

to be honest i dont know why klopp dont want to buy other defender..same like all of us here
Im just replying a post that said klopp cant attract player like VVD..thats absolutely not true

Ya can't get VVD, there should be a good number of defenders who would want to come. Yet, he sold Sakho who in my opinion is our best defender, and continued starting Lovren and Mignolet who in my opinion won't even start for Everton.

Oh, and he rather spend that money on Oxlade, who was on the bench 9 games in a row.

That's the end of group stage, right?

Damn tottenham really smacked real madrid

Still have 2 games to go. Hopefully they can beat Sevilla to secure 1st place of group.