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Fat & Fluffy
post May 1 2018, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ May 1 2018, 10:36 PM)
You said earlier because the delivery was fast that Indonesia received units from the ones that were rejected by the US Army.   

Yes major parts are common but each customer has its own needs & specification. The South Korean AH-64E are equipped with Stinger missile on its wingtip.

I don't know if Indonesia Apache are free of the problem but Boeing test pilots & technicians are still in Indonesia. Iam sure they are aware of the problem.
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not too sure bout their delivery schedule but since it coincides with this event so wondering whether did indo receive the rejected units

am sure the missile units are modular

i see..
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19-year-old NSF dies after displaying 'signs of heat injury': MINDEF


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SINGAPORE: A 19-year-old full-time national serviceman (NSF) died on Monday (Apr 30), nearly two weeks after "displaying signs of heat injury" in Bedok Camp, said the Ministry of Defence (MINDEF) in a news release.

Lee Han Xuan Dave, a Guardsman from the 1st Battalion Singapore Guards, had just completed an 8km fast march at about 8.35am on Apr 18 when he required medical attention.

A Singapore Armed Forces medic attended to him immediately to bring down his core temperature, said MINDEF. "PTE Lee was evacuated to the camp’s Medical Centre where body cooling measures and treatment were continued by the SAF medical team," it added.

He arrived at 9.50am at Changi General Hospital where he was warded in the Intensive Care Unit.

"Unfortunately, PTE Lee’s condition did not improve in the ICU and worsened during the hospitalisation," said MINDEF.

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"The Ministry of Defence and the SAF extend their deepest condolences to the family of the late serviceman and are assisting the family in this time of grief."

In a Facebook post, his mother, Jasmine Yeo, wrote: "Dave had completed his final journey with us @1732 today and now he is on his way to create miracles to others! We are proud of him and hope more people will be able to benefit from his generosity!"

His father, property agent Dennis Lee, made a similar post on Facebook shortly after.

Ms Yeo also posted videos and photos of her son enlisting in the military on Jan 5 as well as his graduation from Basic Military Training last month.

In every case involving the death of a national serviceman, the Armed Forces Council will convene an independent Committee of Inquiry to investigate the circumstances surrounding the incident.

Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singap...injury-10189324


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post May 1 2018, 09:05 PM

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Indonesia - Tiger medium tank to be mass-produced soon

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The Indonesian Tiger medium tank is a joint project associating the Indonesian company PT Pindad and the Turkish FNSS company. The second prototype will undergo a series of tests in view of obtaining its certification next June.

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The Indonesian "Tiger" medium tank is nearing its mass-production phase (Picture source: FNSS)

According to President Director of PT Pindad, Abraham Mose, the testing step will be the opening door before the medium tank is mass produced. "Having proven successful in the test, we directly production," he said on 29 April. Orders for the medium tank are already rolling: TNI (the Indonesian army), through the Defense Minister, will order 100 units. Another of the Asean countries has already shown interest.

A series of tests carried on with the medium tank’s the second prototype include static tests, mechanical tests, dynamic tests, and firing tests to check the reliability of the weaponry, a 105mm caliber gun. The gun has an autoloader mechanism with 12 shells in the turret and 26 additional ones in the hull. The tank that can drive up to 70 km/h. It is manned by three crew members (driver, commander, gunner).

In addition to the cannon, the 32-ton tank is also equipped with the latest technological devices concerning hunter-killer system, passive protection, battle management system, and level 5 protection.


http://armyrecognition.com/may_2018_global...duced_soon.html


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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ May 1 2018, 08:47 PM)
not too sure bout their delivery schedule but since it coincides with this event so wondering whether did indo receive the rejected units

am sure the missile units are modular

i see..
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Well every country has their own specifications and requirements for their combat vehicles.it is not possible for boeing to strip everything down than refurbished it to resell to other country.(this is because US very paranoid on their technology falling to their adversaries).btw news, just said US army postpone the acceptance of helicopter until the problem is rectrify,not canceling it.

Thus, I think Indonesia is accepting new Apache unit as contract and nothing to do with your speculation of accepting rejected units. As for the faulty nuts,I don't think it is major issues ,since it will be replaced (like takata airbag) at timely matters.
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The US Army is the largest operator of the Apache.

If it is being rejected by the US Army, there is a high chance that the TNI-AU AH64E is in the same batch.


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post May 2 2018, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(xtemujin @ May 2 2018, 06:51 AM)
The US Army is the largest operator of the Apache.

If it is being rejected by the US Army, there is a high chance that the TNI-AU AH64E is in the same batch.
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Well if its in the same batch then its Boeing responsibility to fixed the problem and replaced the faulty nuts as to ensure the safety of the crew and the airworthiness of the helicopter they are selling to the US and International customers. Boeing test pilots and technician are still in Indonesia for fight test of the newly arrived AH-64Es. Iam sure they are aware of the problem.

I was actually referring to a comment that you cannot simply just give someone else series production line and instead given rejected ones just because you want it faster.

Btw the Indonesian AH-64E operator is TNI-AD.

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Yeah, TNI-AD.

The issue here is if is a deep maintenance repair, the Apache will need to be sent back to Boeing USA.


QUOTE(azriel @ May 2 2018, 07:57 AM)
Well if its in the same batch then its Boeing responsibility to fixed the problem and replaced the faulty nuts as to ensure the safety of the crew and the airworthiness of the helicopter they are selling to the US and International customers. Boeing test pilots and technician are still in Indonesia for fight test of the newly arrived AH-64Es. Iam sure they are aware of the problem.

I was actually referring to a comment that you cannot simply just give someone else series production line and instead given rejected ones just because you want it faster.

Btw the Indonesian AH-64E operator is TNI-AD.
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QUOTE(TRAZE99 @ May 2 2018, 04:27 AM)
Well every country has their own specifications and requirements for their combat vehicles.it is not possible for boeing to strip everything down than refurbished it to resell to other country.(this is because US very paranoid on their technology falling to their adversaries).btw news, just said US army postpone the acceptance of helicopter until the problem is rectrify,not canceling it.

Thus, I think Indonesia is accepting new Apache unit as contract  and nothing to do with your speculation of accepting rejected units. As for the faulty nuts,I don't think it is major issues ,since it will be replaced (like takata airbag) at timely matters.
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yeaps, not cancelling it... so the parts that are common which have not been accepted are alleged to have been passed on to foreign buyers

as per contract, hence if problem is not known by indo they would still be accepting it... well, takata deemed it not to be a major issue, guess where is takata now?
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Boeing awarded contract to provide Korea with Apache helicopters

By James LaPorta  |  May 1, 2018 at 5:02 PM

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Boeing has signed a contract to provide the Republic of Korea with 36 AH-64E Apache helicopters at a cost of roughly $96 million. Photo by Sgt. 1st Class Andrew McClure/U.S. Army

May 1 (UPI) -- Republic of Korea is set to receive 36 AH-64E Apache helicopters in a new agreement between the U.S. Army and Boeing.

The deal, announced Monday by the Department of Defense, is valued at more than $96.3 million under the terms of a hybrid cost, cost-plus-fixed-fee and firm-fixed-price foreign military sale contract for the attack helicopters, the Pentagon said in a press release.

Work on the contract will occur in Mesa, Ariz., and is expected to be complete in April 2023.

More than $9.4 million will be obligated to Boeing at time of award.

The funds will be allocated from fiscal 2010 foreign military sales funds, according to the U.S. Army Contracting Command.


https://www.upi.com/Boeing-awarded-contract.../7831525205469/

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post May 2 2018, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(xtemujin @ May 2 2018, 09:56 AM)
Yeah, TNI-AD.

The issue here is if is a deep maintenance repair, the Apache will need to be sent back to Boeing USA.
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Let just see how it goes as this will effect additional order for another batch.

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Boeing test pilots and technicians with the Indonesian Army Avaition crew in front of the AH-64E Apache Guardian attack helicopter. Credit to Skadron 11/Serbu.

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Singapore trials S-100 Camcopter on Littoral Mission Vessel

Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - Jane's Navy International
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RSS Sovereignty, seen here during an international fleet review in 2017. The vessel conducted trials of the S-100 Camcopter UAS late in that year. Source: IHS Markit/Ridzwan Rahmat

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* The Republic of Singapore Navy has conducted at-sea trials of the S-100 Camcopter from a Littoral Mission Vessel
* Trials meant to establish operating parameters of rotor-wing unmanned aerial vehicles for the new ship type

The Republic of Singapore Navy (RSN) has concluded a series of shipborne trials for the Schiebel S-100 Camcopter rotor-winged unmanned aerial system (UAS) on one of its Independence-class Littoral Mission Vessels (LMVs).

The trials, which involved a heavy fuel variant of the UAS, took place over several months in late 2017 on the LMV programme’s second-of-class, RSS Sovereignty (16), Jane’s has learnt. Sovereignty is one of the RSN’s three operational LMVs, and the vessel was commissioned in November 2017 along with its sister ship, RSS Unity (17).

Among objectives of the Camcopter trials include the establishment of basic rotor-wing unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) operating envelopes and parameters, under various operational scenarios including at varying speed and sea states, for the LMV platform.

The trials were also an opportunity for the service to inoculate its personnel with rotor-wing UAV operational concepts and procedures, Jane’s understands.

The RSN currently operates the fixed-wing ScanEagle UAS from its Victory-class missile-armed corvettes. The service is not known to have operated any other shipborne rotor-wing UAS from its vessels, prior to the Camcopter trials in 2017.


Read more: http://www.janes.com/article/79656/singapo...-mission-vessel
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No New Torps

Marhalim Abas May 2, 2018 Malaysia -RMN

SHAH ALAM: No new torps. It appears that the RMN had taken a lesson from the NSM/MICA combo saga, deciding that the fastest and cheapest way to arm the LCS was to choose what was already in its inventory.

In this case, the lightweight A244/S torpedoes.

Asked whether the RMN was looking to buy the LCS new torpedoes like the MU90 or stick with the in service A244/S, RMN chief Admiral Kamarulzaman Badaruddin replied that they had chosen the latter.

“We will use the (Leonardo) A244/S torpedoes already in service. Why should we opt for a new one? The torpedo (A244/S) is already and available for use on the LCS”, he said when met after the commissioning ceremony for KD Gagah Samudera and KD Teguh Samudera at the Lumut Naval base on Apr. 26.

I had tried to find out about the choice of torpedo for the LCS since the Gowind was selected for the program. As of DSA 2018 it was the last major sub system for the LCS that had not been announced. With the confirmation from the chief on the selection of the A244/S it appears that cooler heads had prevailed this time around. I am guessing Kamarul and the navy had realised that it was not wise to relive the missiles long drawn out saga.


Read more: http://www.malaysiandefence.com/no-new-torps/
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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ May 2 2018, 11:05 AM)
yeaps, not cancelling it... so the parts that are common which have not been accepted are alleged to have been passed on to foreign buyers

as per contract, hence if problem is not known by indo they would still be accepting it... well, takata deemed it not to be a major issue, guess where is takata now?
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well your assumption is all just speculation ,until now you didn't even provide any substantial evidence that it has alleged pass to foreign buyers.even indo din't make a fuss or statement about faulty nuts. if you read ,the issues is about the "rust" on the nut is causing reliability issues.

guess where is takata now?- well if you read, they known about this issues long ago..maybe even from the beginning but they kept quiet on it and keep on selling ( now already chapter 7,easy way out limiting their damage). now honda, toyota,etc... is picking their mess up by replacing those airbeg. (Boeing also doing the same replacing those nuts with revised version currently).

"as per contract, hence if problem is not known by indo they would still be accepting it"- well nothing in this world is perfect ,that's why it is covered by manufactures warranties within those purchasing agreements.
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QUOTE(TRAZE99 @ May 2 2018, 03:20 PM)
well your assumption is all just speculation ,until now you didn't even provide any substantial evidence that it has alleged pass to foreign buyers.even indo din't make a fuss or statement about faulty nuts. if you read ,the issues is about the "rust" on the nut is causing reliability issues.

guess where is takata now?- well if you read, they known about this issues long ago..maybe even from the beginning but they kept quiet on it and keep on selling ( now already chapter 7,easy way out limiting their damage). now honda, toyota,etc... is picking their mess up by replacing those airbeg. (Boeing also doing the same replacing those nuts with revised version currently).

"as per contract, hence if problem is not known by indo they would still be accepting it"- well nothing in this world is perfect ,that's why it is covered by manufactures warranties within those purchasing agreements.
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its not an assumption or a speculation, that's all from you... it is a question... what evidence you want? go do your own research for evidence... ok, rust on nut, so what's your point?

the party mentioned is takata, not honda not toyota... so you think chapter 7 is not bad enough?

good luck if your mindset is fixed on relying upon warranties... if the US army is like you, boeing will be very happy

anyway, stick to thread topic... shall not dwell further
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QUOTE(PrimeArch @ May 2 2018, 03:43 PM)
wonder which plane... biggrin.gif
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Imo, need to use 100% russian avionics. using western avionics seem difficult in current politic situations.
aaand that surely no go.
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Hyundai Heavy Industries to start construction of PH Navy’s frigate

By: Frances G. Mangosing - @inquirerdotnet
INQUIRER.net / 07:39 PM May 01, 2018

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The steel-cutting ceremony for the first of the two missile-capable frigates of the Philippine Navy was attended by President Hwan-Goo Kang of Hyundai Heavy Industries, Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana, Navy Flag Officer in Command Vice Admiral Robert Empedrad and Defense Undersecretary Raymundo Elefane at the shipbuilder’s headquarters in Ulsan, South Korea. (Yonhap News Agency)

South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries will finally start the construction of the Philippine Navy’s first missile-capable frigate, one of the country’s biggest military modernization projects worth P18 billion.

The steel-cutting ceremony was held on Tuesday at the company’s headquarters in Ulsan, South Korea’s state media Yonhap News reported.

The ceremony was attended by Hyundai Heavy Industries President Hwan-Goo Kang, Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana, Navy Flag Officer in Command Vice Admiral Robert Empedrad, and Defense Undersecretary Raymundo Elefane.
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The Yonhap report said the shipbuilder will launch the fleet in May next year and deliver it to the Philippines in the second half of 2020.

The construction of the second frigate, meanwhile, will start in September. It will be delivered to the Philippines in the first half of 2021.


Read more: http://globalnation.inquirer.net/166416/hy...h-navys-frigate




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QUOTE(pcboss00 @ May 2 2018, 02:04 PM)
Imo, need to use 100% russian avionics. using western avionics seem difficult in current politic situations.
aaand that surely no go.
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Then stuck with Russian equipment when Russia buat hal lagi?

Right now our Su30s have option to use both, thats pretty cool

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