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 The SSD Thread V6, Solid State Drive, Continued.

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TristanX
post Dec 7 2018, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Dec 7 2018, 01:12 PM)
syok haha

i sometimes also run benchmark on primocache-enabled drives just to see the numbers lol
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That isnt primocache numbers though. I'll get 6552MB/s if I do that. lol
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post Dec 8 2018, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Dec 8 2018, 10:06 PM)
finally had time to complete this.

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now all drives are running with primocache turned on:
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Thats quad channel for you. Like I said. I think my G.Skill Trident Z 16GB X2 DDR4-3200 will get me around 6.5GB/s.
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post Dec 9 2018, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Dec 9 2018, 12:55 PM)
oh i thought higher ram clocks can boost the numbers even with dual channel.

i think it has to do with the bundled drivers in the software as well. the last time i checked primocache have better numbers than samsung magician's rapid mode.

here is an example: older versions (3.x) of softperfect ramdisk had ram disk drivers that showed better numbers than 4.x (afaik softperfect ramdisk still provides one of the best numbers compared to other options)

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well, these are just numbers, for fun. it's not that they are significant for normal usage lol

edit: since rapid mode is only available for samsung sata ssds, i use primocache for ram cache purposes hehe (with deferred writes turned on) it can save a significant amount of writes to the ssds in the long run.
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Primocache 8GB with Samsung 960 Pro 512GB:
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Looks like Intel Chipset is significantly better. It should be half of yours.
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post Dec 10 2018, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Dec 9 2018, 08:30 PM)
oh ok; right intel chipset is still relatively better. as long as the machine works well, it's all good haha
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Waiting for Intel next gen HEDT chipset. Or maybe Core i7-9800X?

My main goal is PCIE lanes and better chipset
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Dec 10 2018, 11:34 AM)
Ryzen la, 64 PCI-e lanes wey biggrin.gif
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Dont know whether X399 chipset as good as Intel X299 when it comes to performance or not. Yes, more PCIE lanes, will it maintain PCIE 3.0 bandwidth?

Yeah, I'm curious with AMD X399 vs Intel X299 chipset comparison.

SATA?
PCIE?
M.2 PCIE?
RAM performance?
Chipset M.2 performance?

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post Dec 10 2018, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Dec 10 2018, 01:24 PM)
maybe you should check out pugetsystems.com for their articles to get clues and hints. (this is where i got to know that for professional gpu rendering tasks, gpus running at pci-e x8 and x16 have similar outcomes in performance; not sure about gaming)

afaik, even though amd has more core counts and pci-e lanes, they might not be optimal options just yet, compared to intel cpus with lower counts of both. (besides pricing)

i guess amd still have some areas to catch up. i really hope they do well in near future.
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Yeah, if AMD catches up. Prices wont be ridiculously high.
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QUOTE(KahLooN @ Dec 13 2018, 08:10 PM)
Sifu, this is my first time buying and installing SSD. I'm running on SATA2, so is the speed correct?

The SSD is Crucial MX500 1TB.
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SATA2 is half the bandwidth of SATA2. Thats clear bottleneck.
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QUOTE(KahLooN @ Dec 13 2018, 10:18 PM)
I think you meant SATA2 is half the bandwidth of SATA3 right?
Should be since I got halve from what you got. biggrin.gif
Theoretically SATA2 at 300MB/s while SATA3 at 600MB/s.
Is a good investment as I notice the startup and shutdown quite responsive compare to mechanical drive. rclxm9.gif
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Yup.

SATA 3 is 6 Gigabits per second or 750 Megabytes per second theoretically

SATA 2 is half.

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QUOTE(Boldnut @ Dec 14 2018, 09:23 AM)
I got a 250GB Seagate SSD @ RM145 @ Shopee (RM112 after coupon applied) instead. It is a dram SSD @ dramless SSD price with 5yrs warranty somemore.  rclxm9.gif

So much cheaper than MX500, I will be using it on sata 2 OS drive as well on my old Q9650 computer. IMO, MX500 250GB is too expensive/GB, they need to drop that price down to ~RM150.
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Wahh. What model is that Seagate SSD? I remember got at least 2.

Barracuda looks okay....
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13672/the-se...gb-ssd-review/3

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QUOTE(Boldnut @ Dec 14 2018, 09:41 AM)
New model Barracuda SSD from shopee All_IT was RM145 @ 12.12 sales.

it is like 5-10% drop in performance from MX500 but much cheaper price. Pretty good for people who wanna jump to SSD. Like I said again, Crucial really need to do something on that MX500 250GB price.
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Maybe due to bigger DRAM cache for MX500.

I just bought Crucial MX500 1TB at RM564 from Shopee (Viewnet).
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QUOTE(Boldnut @ Dec 14 2018, 09:49 AM)
more like because of old controller, from the review. not gonna affect me anyway on sata 2 lol.

Seagate SSD 500GB has 512MB RAM, I think it is same as MX500. So I am guessing 250GB has 256MB?
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Yeah, old controller. Definitely SATA 2 will bottleneck the Seagate SSD. lol

Yeah, maybe just the new controller is more expensive. Maybe 256GB DRAM cache.
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QUOTE(Boldnut @ Dec 15 2018, 07:05 PM)
my Seagate 250GB has arrived = metal casing somemore. Not plastic like Kingston.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Not bad. Enjoy!

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post Dec 27 2018, 01:15 PM

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Price range

SATA:
240-256GB - Seagate Barracuda 250GB - RM154 at shopee
480-512GB - Crucial MX500 500GB - RM349 from Viewnet
960GB-1TB - Crucial MX500 1TB - RM659 from Viewnet

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QUOTE(RagingCandy @ Dec 28 2018, 10:26 PM)
where do you manage to get the dram size?
I search over the net even their official website they never mention about dram size.
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Well, search more specific criteria.

Crucial MX500:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crucia...-nand,5390.html

Seagate Barracuda SSD (Doesn't tell you how much. I think its 256MB):
https://www.storagereview.com/seagate_barracuda_ssd_review
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QUOTE(SkyHermit @ Dec 31 2018, 02:38 AM)
Just want to make sure that SSD can be used on both desktop and laptop?

Gonna buy one SSD for my desktop (probably ssd kingston 240gb) and then in the next few months buy a new laptop and use this SSD on my laptop
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Kingston A400 240GB is trash. Look for Seagate Barracuda 250GB. Should be around RM150ish from shopee.
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QUOTE(wong_86 @ Jan 3 2019, 05:16 PM)
10Gbit/s, my plan is to install Nvme on this board temporary. if got budget then I upgrade processor, board and ram...

Any recommend  NvmenSSD brand which is great value?
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Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIE at RM299 from Viewnet.
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QUOTE(james2306 @ Jan 7 2019, 03:09 AM)
Is ADATA XPG SX8200 the current go-to nvme for 500gb range?
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Only Pro version. Regular is not that great.

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QUOTE(StuartLee2015 @ Jan 7 2019, 04:09 PM)
Is wd blue ssd or the m.2 good? Currently using HyperX Fury 240...
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Adata SX8200 Pro M.2 PCIE will rollover WD Blue M.2 SATA. Price too close.
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QUOTE(StuartLee2015 @ Jan 7 2019, 05:33 PM)
I see... between NVME and normal SSD, do i see some kind of improvement like boot times, program loading time, browsing windows explorer, file/folder thumbnails, etc?

- Z370-F ASUS
- Hyper X Fury 240 sata SSD
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Yes, You can find Adata SX8200 Pro at cheap prices from Shopee.
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QUOTE(Stochastic @ Jan 13 2019, 11:37 AM)
Hi after read this thread only knew SSD dram. Any recommend for HTPC 250 and 500GB SSD? Plan to buy a NUC for BT/movie/drama at living room.
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For price/performance:

Best 250GB:
Seagate Barracuda 250GB

Best 500GB:
Crucial MX500 500GB

Best M.2 PCIE:
Any Adata SX8200 Pro

Oh, you still need Samsung Pro if you gonna write a lot. I recommend putting one hard disk for it.

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