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 The SSD Thread V6, Solid State Drive, Continued.

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post Oct 24 2018, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(mcat84 @ Oct 24 2018, 09:12 AM)
Try to avoid those super cheap SSDs. It does not have DRAM cache. Any heavy workload will cause it to stutter and it is worse than hard disk.

SSDs at around Crucial MX500 or Samsung 860 Evo price range are good.
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post Nov 6 2018, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(btfan @ Nov 6 2018, 09:53 AM)
I think the Crucial MX500 has something called "partial power loss protection" which Samsung 860 EVO doesn't have. In this case, would the Crucial MX500 be a better choice? Especially since it's also quite a bit cheaper.
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Samsung is faster. It is more expensive though. MX500 isnt far behind.

At today's prices, Samsung dropped a lot.

There is also this:
https://shopee.com.my/Intel%C2%AE-SSD-535-S...6936.1391207027

MLC NAND can handle more writes.

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post Nov 9 2018, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(edministrator @ Nov 8 2018, 09:22 PM)
Kingston A400 480GB for around +-RM260
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QUOTE(DeepMemory @ Nov 9 2018, 09:49 AM)
Patriot Burst 480GB for only RM260 before any discounts. https://shopee.com.my/aoneplus/1632035407?v...82eeb7c36d5d5c3
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Both of them are crap for my eyes. Guaranteed no DRAM cache as well.
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post Nov 9 2018, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(DeepMemory @ Nov 9 2018, 10:12 AM)
The Patriot ssd have TLC 3D NAND with 32mb DRAM cache though. https://www.google.com.my/amp/s/wccftech.co...n-a-budget/amp/
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32MB? Crucial MX500 and Samsung 970 Evo is at least 512MB. lol
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post Nov 9 2018, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Nov 9 2018, 10:19 AM)
crucial has a promo atm 799-899 for 1tb..

although hmm having had mx100,mx200,mx300 and now mx500

mx300 seems to be better...

need to test both drive empty..
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MX500 looks better from the reviews.

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https://www.anandtech.com/show/12348/the-sa...-4tb-ssd-review

I got MX500 1TB. Its filled though.
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post Nov 9 2018, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Nov 9 2018, 10:36 AM)
I do a lot of remux, encodes and initial torrent on da 1tb drives of mx500 and mx300
mainly tv shows/movie web dl

so the prep on da script is especially on tv shows.. download, unrar, remux, save on a HDD, plex refresh.
movie web-dl are same except theres no unrar...

on tv shows below 1gb.. not much diff between both.
however above 1gb.. its slower on mx500.. initiall mx500 suppose to be my web-dl movie drive.. but seeing this.. i made it as tvshow drive.
tested few times already. even tested on the same port the mx 300 ( currently mx300 handling movie web-dl and mx500 on tvshows) before mx300 was handling both.

how much slower..
hmm for tvshows say around 1.2gb.. on my system to do the download (20-30 sec) with that script running 1min on mx300..
mx500 can sometimes end up 2 mins...
movies this takes a bit longer because of the reencode of the ac3 move for dual track AAC/AC3 Passthrough.. so say a 4.5gb movie.. mx300 to do the whole thing download ( 2 min) ( remux, audio encode etc.. ) mx 300 3 min.. mx 500 4 min...

its always 30sec to 1 min longer.
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Looks like Marvell controller on MX300 is better. By the way, Crucial has Storage Executive. It has Momentum Cache feature. There are some apps like Primocache and SSDKeeper too.

Wah, you write so much on SSD. Thats a lot of wear. I ban videos on my SSDs. Purely WD Red Pro and Surveillance disks on videos for me.

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Nov 9 2018, 11:44 AM)
too slow...

this dude.. by the time i finish that muxing etc.. already hit ratio upload ratio 2-3..
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Thats up to you. Writes wears out SSD for me. If I want it, I'll do it on SSD like Samsung Pro or Intel 530/535.
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QUOTE(puifah @ Nov 9 2018, 10:37 PM)
please check product specs for patriot burst ssd 1st before give any comments…🤦
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Yeah, 32MB, my bad. Still not in my eyes since there are no through reviews.
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post Nov 23 2018, 01:09 PM

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Another round of price drop.

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post Nov 23 2018, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(invisiblelim @ Nov 23 2018, 01:13 PM)
is even cheaper than the 11.11 sales.. what the...
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The rest of the hardware got hangover. Thanks to Intel CPU shortage.
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QUOTE(horns @ Nov 23 2018, 01:18 PM)
this is good news; thanks for this!

now i have a purpose to pay lyp another visit lol
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Yeah, Viewnet prices are. LOL

Cheaper than 11.11!
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QUOTE(invisiblelim @ Nov 23 2018, 01:23 PM)
i rush to buy 1 samsung 860 evo 500GB before sst worried about price hike at 600, now is only 449.. haha..
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Crucial MX500 1TB at RM659. That is the star buy.
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QUOTE(horns @ Nov 23 2018, 01:41 PM)
seriously, this one is really attractive. however i might go for something that is closer to my needs

i still have 2x crucial m500 960gb running fine in one of my systems. i got them for 1.3k myr each previously (compared to mx500 now, the price drop is real lol)
haha it's ok also. at least that 860evo can last you for quite some time already
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Samsung 860 Pro 512GB at RM799, or 970 Pro 512GB at RM1099. MLC NAND for cheap!
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 23 2018, 01:49 PM)
I bought my 950 Pro 512GB 3 years ago at RM2K+ sweat.gif
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At least we know now how much is their profit margin.
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Yeah, Amazon is cheaper

Samsung 860 Pro 1TB:
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Nov 24 2018, 04:24 PM)
Really just depends on your usage. I batch post process a shit ton of images everyday, an nvme drive makes it just so, so much faster than a SATA 3 SSD. Like the time saved equates to money and that money pays for the drive.

I find it pointless otherwise to use an nvme drive to say like store and load games. The difference between nvme and SATA3 for game loads is less than 5% and that's within margin of error.
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That depends on games. If you get shit tons of files like Final Fantasy XV or Star Control Origins, you can feel the loading is faster.

Samsung 970 Pro - 500000 IOPS
Samsung 860 Pro - 100000 IOPS
Crucial MX500 - 72000 IOPS

I could do a benchmark of Star Control load times if you want. I have all three of the above. or Final Fantasy XIV? It has built-in benchmark.

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QUOTE(luahanpelik @ Nov 24 2018, 09:53 PM)
hello guys, im new here.
i was thinking of upgrading my ancient 5400rpm 1tb hdd to sandisk a400 480gb for rm268 at shopee. is it worth upgrading now or should i wait?
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Get Crucial MX500 500GB at RM359 from Viewnet. You will be paying more for DRAM cache, 20 more Terabytes written and 5 years warranty.
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QUOTE(horns @ Nov 25 2018, 04:12 PM)
in real life, not all dramless ssds do the above, at the right price. if you looked closely, crucial mx500 does add dram cache in their 1tb and 2tb models. (imo maybe as a safety measure)
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MX500 DRAM cache

250GB - 256MB DDR3
500GB - 512MB DDR3
1TB - 1GB DDR3
2TB - 2GB DDR3
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crucia...-nand,5390.html

LOL

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QUOTE(horns @ Nov 28 2018, 03:23 AM)
it's no wonder you said there is not enough pci-e lanes for you haha
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X470 and Z390 chipset PCIE lanes not enough for me. Looks like HEDT for my next upgrade. Wanna put Samsung 960 Pro 512GB, Intel Optane Memory 32GB and maybe Intel Optane 280GB in the future.
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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Nov 28 2018, 09:26 AM)
What is the best bang for bucks or value per performance for 250GB of SSD? Already on Samsung bandwagon long ago, but wanna get another SSD for my second laptop that is running SATA 2 only. lol
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Crucial MX500 250GB at RM229. 500GB at RM349 from Viewnet cannot be ignored.

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