i dont think anyone here would expect a foldie to do as what rb capable of. i think we all can accept the limitations of a foldie and live with it. i was highlighting on what azam wrote previously which im inclined to agree, based on my experience.

Keep the foldy. Buy a road bike. Then you'll have 2 bikes for different purposes. Next on the list, MTB for trail riding. Haha.

Change to a bigger chainring, eg 60t sure can keep up with rb. It's about whether your legs and lungs can keep up with it. I test rode a velo with a 60-53t before. Sure it's fast. But it drains out your energy just as fast..

This post has been edited by fatani: Mar 11 2018, 08:28 PM

Or can buy a gravel. The jack of all trades. Haha

It's an open discussion. No harm to widen the scope of possibilities. whether we, as an individuality, are capable of it, is another matter.

at JCR last year, there's one dude riding a java minivelo with a TT bar beating the crap out of many rb riders, all through the 160km distance, but rightly so, he was disqualified, because that event only allow rb and mtb .

so if the question is, which is faster, rb or fb (stock vs stock). RB. hands down.
Can we build fb to go as fast as rb? Yes, it's very possible.
Can you do it? Ask your leg. I couldn't, but i would try my best to be respectful to others who might have interest in it. Why not, right?

that's a hell of an achievement indeed. it's a testimony from my friend who participated in the Johor Century Ride, and no, we don't know who the rider is. All that i know is, the rider is bloody fast, my friend couldn't keep up with him (he was on rb and he's by no means is weak as i personally know him), so..

i apologised if my sharing is considered self ego and syok sendiri. i have stated previously, i myself are nowhere capable of riding with such intensity. but whether such riding are doable on a fb, i would still say yes. like azam said previously, it's all about the rider. and as someone else wrote before, get the gearing right, then u're good to go.

congrats on your BRM200. that's one hell of an achievement too. peace

care to share some reviews on that curl bro gataddhin?

That one is i4. The red one is limited version.
Main difference other than colour, is the speed. i8 is 8 speed, i4 is well, 4. Oh, i8 is a lot more pricey hehe

TBH, the only answer is, to test ride the brommie yourself. only by then, you can justify whether it's worth your money or not. whatever people write here, doesn't really matter. we humans value things differently.

this never ending cheap vs expensive bike discussion with some bickering in between that has been happening in this forum lately has left such a virile vibe and has greatly reduce my interest to join the discussion. the harmonious and healthy discussion that used to happen before seems to be slowly fading away.

having said that, a bike, is a bike, whether it's cheap or expensive. a kancil or a ferrari will still get you from point A to B. cheap bike oso can go anywhere, so why bother with the expensive one, right? i own both cheap and slightly expensive bike. from my exp, the exact saying is , "you get what you pay for". i still ride those bikes religiously though, cheap or exp.

This post has been edited by fatani: Apr 4 2018, 11:15 AM

If you want speed, do not get the brompton. It is not designed to go fast. It's best ridden with leisure speed. But what it does best is it fold compactly. Built quality is top notch.

Here's a suggestion, just ride your cheap bike first lah. Ride it as often as possible. So at the same time, you're also upgrading your engine. When you think it's necessary, you can upgrade the groupset and wheelset first. If in the future, you decided that u had enough with your cheap bike, then change bike lor. The thing with the more expensive bike (dahon/tern/bf/etc) is, they produce better frame, but sell it with an inferior components. So by then, you can transfer your previous components from your cheap bike to your new one.

My cheap upgraded cap ayam bike is way lighter and faster than my dahon. Last night, it managed to achieve top speed of 60kmh (descend lah ) and last week it achieved average of 30kmh on a 70km ride. but the thing with that bike is, it flex like crazy as well. In fact, the flex is so annoying that sometimes i think that i want to go buy another frame on the spot. Haha..Ride quality between those 2 bikes? Massive difference. If im forced to choose one, i'd still keep the dahon. So, i hope you get the general idea.

Generally, folding bikes are not designed for speed. But with some mods, and better fitness level, it can be made to move faster. Since you are just venturing into the cycling scene, best is to keep pedalling to improve your fitness. Mods when you think it's necessary. Try finding a cycling groups and start from there. Better get the santai2 one first. When you think your fitness is getting better, try cycling with a faster group. You'll improve your speed for sure. Im sure, by that time, you'll already know what necessary mod (or bikes) that may suit your need.

Here's my cap ayam bike.



This post has been edited by fatani: Apr 5 2018, 09:01 PM

1000km is easily an achievable mileage in a year, even for someone new. Before we know it, time flies by so fast for us to even notice it. So one year is not that long of a period.

I made a rookie mistake when i started getting into cycling. Groupset and wheelset were upgraded within a month after buying the bike, after reading online. What i realised later, no matter what people recommend, may not suit my needs. It may suits them alright though. So there's no right or wrong here, just highly depends on what suits us better.

Luckily i managed to sell those stuff at minimal loss, and change to the one that im more comfortable using.

any cheap tyre will do. weight should not matter, since you're training, right. if it botak, les damage to your wallet. i don't have a trainer/roller, but on the road, i personally would prefer a heavier bike for training..i only take the lighter bike when i join the cycling groups that are speeding with the average speed of 30kmh+-.

This post has been edited by fatani: Apr 6 2018, 09:14 PM

If folded size is your main concern, you can opt for brommie clones. Much cheaper.

I dont how big is his suv's boot size, but if it's large enough, should fit. Hehe



But yes the Abike is probably the safer bet. But OMG that wheel. Feels like skateboarding mang..

Java are not by any means are compact. It fact,its fold is even larger and not too tidy IMO. The guy's looking for bikes that can fold compact enough to fit in car boots. 4 of them, at least.

Can search BBS. Type cigna/3sixty/etc (i dont remember all their brand's name). Online, there's always taobao.

My LBS got sell Cigna. Those clones are normally priced around 2K++.

Just a suggestion. Only rm300 difference in price.

i noticed that the headtube doesnt have that 3 hole that you can install a valette/luggage thruss. can put bag/rack there. but anyway, still can install the front rack.

btw, congrats on your latest bike.

Let's indeed.



Cap 🐔. Broga loops

Btw, sandal baru ka?

This post has been edited by fatani: Apr 23 2018, 12:32 PM