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fatani
post Sep 24 2018, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Sep 14 2018, 04:50 PM)
We took our time up,rested a few times...
A group of 15 ppls i think,so everyone manage to get up to d top,some beginner gets some assist from d pros also...
Everyone can make it,i am being told by some pros that it's not quite challenging,ask us to try bukit beruang hill,only up climbing,and down at ur own risk...
I straight surrender...
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Bear hill..photos taken from friend's ride yesterday..looks yummy eh?

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post Oct 21 2018, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(mtgh @ Oct 20 2018, 11:20 PM)
I am just beginner. How to check those specs.
Weight 72kg, Age 52
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Stock dahon chainring is 53t and the cassette is 11-32, which is sufficient enough for most people to climb any hill, even for fraser. Having said that, different individual have different capabilities, so, if the current setup doesnt cater yet to your strength, you may choose to change to smaller chainring, or go fo double chainring. And, ride more, as bro ken has mentioned in the post above. You will gradually become stronger. Meanwhile, just enjoy the ride! Dahon speed is a very comfy bike.
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post Oct 21 2018, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(rkhairulrijal @ Oct 14 2018, 11:42 PM)
GAP Loop with foldie? Hell yeah!

2 Bromptons (6 speeds and 3 speeds respectively) 1 Java Ira, 1 Dahon Dash, 1 Tern, and 1 Giant roadbike.

Here is the route, hope can inspire others.
HOA-Gombak-Ulu Yam-Batang Kali-KKB-GAP-Bentong-Janda Baik-Genting Sempah-HOA.

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My Garmin decided to hang at the first 12km

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Refueling my self after the first climb of Ulu Yam

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Super hot near the Dam before Chilling

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The crew. It is important to stay together to support each other. Mental and physical. No breakaway.

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Please be extra cautious when descending from here. Wet road plus multipe hairpin corner.

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Reached Bentong around 6plus. We have our diner/lunch here before heading towards Janda Baik. And yes, it was already dark.

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Descending genting sempah in pitch black. That is why you need to stick together and make sure everyone is okay. Pacing is important especially when you attack the infamous bukit McD after the RnR area. Very torturous i can tell you plus dogs.

Tips:
-carry a lot of food with ya. I personally recommend Hutan Ration. Not trying to promote here but it can give u lots of energy and delicious comprared to energy gel.

- rear/front blinkers. Spare tube. Patch etc is a must.

- powerbank also is a must to charge lights and phone.

- support car recommended. Can wait at RnR area to escort you at genting sempah.

Hope this post will inspire others. You can do anything with foldie. So stop finding excuse, train hard and enjoy the route. Everyone suffer...its normal. 😊
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Looks fun.
How many hours bro?
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post Nov 7 2018, 04:36 PM

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kudos bro!
got friend ask to me sign along, but i skipped this audax since the route is almost similar to broga 200. will be looking up a different audax challenge in the future. but i think i'll get me an rb first if it's more than 200km. biggrin.gif ..maybe we'll be able to meet along..am having naughty thought to use mtb in audaxs hu hu..

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post Nov 17 2018, 06:47 PM

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From my experience on how to notice wrong saddle height/tilt.

Tilt too downward, pressure felt on the wrist.
Tilt too backward, pressure felt on your lower back. Also can be felt on your balls too.

Saddle doesnt necessarily have to be flat. Your riding position will determine how much the saddle should be tilted.

Saddle too low, front knee will certainly feel the effect.
Saddle too high, back knee and thigh pain later. Your lower back will feel it too. And of course, your balls will feel numb.

Last but not least, the shape and sizes of the saddle plays a major part too. And the chamois..

So many variables. Good luck experimenting.

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post Nov 18 2018, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(k town shit @ Nov 17 2018, 09:18 PM)
is folding bike worth to buy?
a friend of mine said because of too many joints on the bike body, thus that's is very consuming effort to push forward
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This really freeze my brain for a moment. Ahahaha..
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post Nov 18 2018, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(KenC @ Nov 18 2018, 08:43 PM)
It's really weird when I hear ppl expecting Foldies to perform better top rank MTN and RB at fraction of the price BUT they never say MTB and RB can fold smaller than Foldies…
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Average speed of 27-30kmh is very doable on a foldie. Which is something around the range of fast MTB groups ride. Pro (podium) MTB riders would definitely ride faster than that.

For rb, can just follow along jer lah. Once they hit 40kmh, say bye2. Hehe.
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post Nov 18 2018, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(KenC @ Nov 17 2018, 07:25 PM)
Once you got yourself fitted, ride 3000km on it within 6 months, your rear end and your family jewels are bullet proof by then, any saddle make no difference,  No need padded butt.
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Good to know that. I somehow experience the other way around.

Padding : different padding offers different level of comfort.
Saddle : definitely differs from one to another. I find brooks b17 to be the most comfy, but it's still not perfect for me. The saddle width left some pain on my hip. So far im using different types of saddle. Broooks, smp, sdg, tioga clon. All feel diferently. The worst is the stock saddles that came thick padded. Fizik arione left me numb. Specialized body geometry too. Sakit bontot i had to sell it off.
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post Nov 19 2018, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(KenC @ Nov 18 2018, 11:54 PM)
All saddles are uncomfortable. No matter how you train your butt or how much you spend~ it's the nature of upright bicycle. It's just inhumane design~
Yet to meet anyone who prefer a saddle over any kind of chair at home or office.
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upright riding position, so sit bone is located far backward. wider saddle should cater this. a more aggressive riding position your ass is more at the front saddle. more aggressive riding position such as TT, even the saddle nose is gone from the design.

u cant compare a saddle with a chair lah ken laugh.gif . that analogy is not quite suitable. I think if your continuously spin your leg while sitting at home (nobody does that), I bet that chair oso wont feel so comfy later. sweat.gif
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post Nov 19 2018, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(Bujal.x @ Nov 19 2018, 05:04 PM)
Just make sure your wheel hub can accommodate 11 speed cassete as most stock wheelset only support max 9/10 speed cassete
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Change freehub jer. Settle
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post Nov 21 2018, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(CanonLee @ Nov 21 2018, 08:49 AM)
any recommendations for freehub? I have checked many wheelsets in market places, seems mostly support upto 10s.
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yes. most of the 406 and 451 wheelsets on the market comes with the 8-10 speed freehub. it will be very hard to find one that come with 11 speed freehub stock. but fear not, it is actually not a big deal. like i mentioned previously, all you have to do is just replace the 10 speed freehub with the 11 speed freehub. just visit your LBS. some should have it. 11 speed freehub is about a cog taller than 10 speed, for the obvious reason.

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post Nov 21 2018, 08:36 PM

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Climbing + big range between cogs = mtb cassette
Close ratio = road cassette. Train your leg to get stronger, any hill oso can climb with road cassette.

Pick one that suits your preferred riding style. What suits us most may not suit your needs. It's all about preference.

I personally prefer close ratio for road riding. Offroad, obviously MTB.

I've used 8 speed with 11-32, than convert it to 2x8, then convert it to 2x10. Was the 8 speed sufficient? Yes. Then why change? Having extra gears is not a bad thing. It is useful. And for my usage, 32 cog is a bit of an overkill. Changed it to 25 and 28. On my early days, i even used deore groupset on my foldie. 11-36!!..in the end, i bought an mtb frame and transferred it there. Where it is most suitable at. For my kind of riding lah. You dont have to do what i did.

Normally, 10 speed is more than enough for foldies. But, still if want to use the 11 speed groupsets, the only thing that you need to find is the 11 speed freehub.

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post Jan 7 2019, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Jan 6 2019, 04:18 PM)
so how ur 1st weekend in 2019?

is it raining?

or is it good and hot bright day?

what ever the weather it is, or what ever bike u got dont forget to enjoy ur ride and had some sweat πŸ˜…
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lately im training on very hot days to train my body to get used to it, and to examine what fuels work for me. probably will be a ghost rider on this upcoming audax event this weekend, might opt to try mtbing this time. the chain on my foldy already stretched out and for now no money to replace ha ha.
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post Jan 7 2019, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(KenC @ Jan 7 2019, 08:54 PM)
Fuel is very important. I strongly recommend nasi impit + serunding.
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That's a good source of carb and protein there. Unfortunately nasi himpit is not really my cup of tea.

The other important thing to take note in these blazing hot days is to keep your body hydrated. Cycling dehydrated really shut down your muscle and your heart rate goes haywire. Certainly an unpleasant experience.

Anyway, im not 100% sure whether i can make it to the event just yet. But i do train for it. Hopefully i could make it. Too many occassions might spoil the date.
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post Feb 18 2019, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(gataddhin @ Feb 17 2019, 03:59 PM)
I just converted my bike to electric bike. When I pedal, my cateye magnetic sensor picks up the speed reading but when press the thumb throttle, no reading on cateye computer.

Could it be the electric front hub is the cause?
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Same case oso happen if one use those very high lumen speedlights. Messed up those cateye readings.
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post Feb 20 2019, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(nas445 @ Feb 20 2019, 10:57 AM)
When to a bike shop last 2 weekend, at first put budget around RM1k. Went out of the shop with Java Pro4 instead...Should had spent a bit more perhaps for Ira, but they dont have any in stock.

Contemplating to downgrade to 406 wheelset instead..A bit more comfortable then the 451 i hope...not that many seller of 406 wheelset in bbs.
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or you could change to a wider tyre.
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post Feb 21 2019, 07:11 AM

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QUOTE(nas445 @ Feb 20 2019, 04:19 PM)
Will consider. Dropping by a shop later after work...

Was looking at tyre prices, and it's bloody expansive. my motorcycle tyre size 160 only cost circa 400-500 a piece..our tiny tyre cost circa 100..πŸ˜‚
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If compared to my car tyres, then your motorcycle tyre is a lot more expensive ha ha.Cycling stuffs are normally expensive. The more lighter the parts, the higher the price is. But there are cheaper one. Just don't expect branded one ajer lah. My 406 tyres only cost me rm40 per piece (innova), my slick mtb tyre is rm35 a piece (chaoyang). Brands like kenda also offer reasonable price.

It really depends on your purpose for riding. If you want a fast/light/low rolling resistance tyres, expect to pay more. If you want a durable touring tyres, also expect to pay more. If you dont mind those criterias, then they are definitely cheaper tyres out there. The things with bicycle is, the weight of the parts will certainly effects on how you feel when you strikes those pedals. Especially the moving parts.
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post Mar 12 2019, 05:55 PM

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Or u can use ayam brand frame, change to a lighter 451 wheelset and bigger chainring (53t min). Can keep up with rb no worries. Confirm wont reach 5k pricetag ler even if u swap the whole groupset. 406 is a bit tiring though, due to the smaller wheel, u'll be harmstering a lot huhu

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post Mar 15 2019, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Mar 15 2019, 05:53 PM)
I see. Thanks for suggestion. I read and found out that Tern X22 is world fastest foldie. 22 speed ultegra is pretty good start but sadly this model not available for sale anymore. Any bike has similar of this spec?

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Just a suggestion.

Get a Verge Frame, change ultegra groupset,light wheelsets, handlebar, seatpost, saddle, i think u'll get similar performance with the x22, and probably will spend less money for it.
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post Mar 15 2019, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Mar 15 2019, 08:36 PM)
Do they sell frame only for the verge? All frame are the same for some variant such as P20 P10 or X20 X22 and such?

The latest Verge P20 which on sale now has 26” wheels?

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Nope. Have to get the whole bike. Frame can search for fnhon.

What i mean is, all the verge series is highly likely using the same frame anyway, and the highest spec comes with a very hefty pricetag. The cheaper way to achieve that spec is, to buy a bike with similar frame and upgrade the parts and components independently. I think that is what sifu azam did to his bike.

Cousin to that verge series frame is the dahon vigor frame.

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