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starex80
post Oct 2 2017, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(S3phiroth @ Oct 2 2017, 02:17 AM)
Most of my pickup at high rise buildings took at least 5 mins waiting time but I never msg them that 5min is the max waiting time. So today I decided to msg one of them about the max waiting time policy because she was not there yet upon arrival. I can feel that she was not happy when she boarded my car. Guess what? My rating dropped from 4.96 to 4.92.  vmad.gif  ranting.gif

Been a grab driver for 3 weeks and I was able to maintain my rating in range of 4.94-4.97 in every rating update. So far I am doing my best to provide a nice service to the rider but these frakers really take it for granted. Fraking bitch! Next time I will just cancel you when i see you walking toward me. I am not your fraking private driver!
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If a rider didn't pickup phone when you arrive, u wait him for 15 minutes.
It is a rm3 fare in P hours. After entering the car he say sorry and put a rm10 note at your place. When drop off say no need change.

What will be your response?
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post Oct 2 2017, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(crixalisrox @ Oct 2 2017, 04:27 PM)
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Stress everyday instead of stress end of the week only .
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GH Part timer who done less than 3 hours in a day cannot ignore or cancel 1 trip.
Even do 3 hours also need ensure have at least 10 trips and can only ignore a trip and cancel a trip per day

If rider keep cancel to boost up your AR very obvious grab can notice, then they suspect you game them.

Stress....
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post Oct 2 2017, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(mantol0105 @ Oct 2 2017, 06:18 PM)
Guys try reading the fine print. It states that only AR & CR will reset back to zero every day. So as long as your DR at the end of the day is still above 4.7 you are still gucci I guess..

At least that is what i understand and hope regarding the DR for new scheme.
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Bro r3d this carefully.
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post Oct 2 2017, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(hightechgadgets8 @ Oct 2 2017, 09:28 PM)
More info here and sneak peek
https://www.grab.com/my/blog/driver/updated...egeri-sembilan/

It does look like grab counts by the hour means if u hit the incnetives within this hour. You r safe and if u cancel next hour - next hour burn

Hope im right
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it is daily not hourly.

if you achieve all requirements before daily 11:59pm, then all the hours you work on become a valid GH, else you only collect pure fares.
And you will only get the report on next day.

Don't be scam by grab with pic without further understanding.
Read their TNC.
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post Oct 2 2017, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Oct 2 2017, 10:38 PM)
Selected passenger.
Some getting RM5 off 15 rides. Some getting RM10 off 6 rides. Etc.
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I think to all forks.
I seldom ride grab but get rm4 for 15 rides.
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post Oct 2 2017, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Oct 2 2017, 10:42 PM)
I will still take RM3 job, provided it require me less than 10min to complete and able to hit trip bonuses.

Ask me to go KL golden triangle, can ask them to fly kite.
Other state will follow suit very soon, Penang/JB/Melaka especially.

Too heavy incentive hunting? the incentive payment isn't so lucrative as before already. For last week, my fare collected gross RM700, net RM560, incentive reimburse net RM280, so Grab just subsidize RM40 only.
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hehe,. you get a job to KL and you don't accept, your AR drop.
Daily you do accept 30 trips only can ignore 4 trips and cancel 3 trips.

if driver rating count in, 2 people give 1 star rating then say goodbye to incentive.
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post Oct 2 2017, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(moosekaka @ Oct 2 2017, 10:52 PM)
One strategy I can foresee is that morning and daytime fulltimers will accept all jobs to build up bullets, then use them during evening rush hour, when or if unlucky they use it up early, go home and offline. So then riders find that 7pm onwards why no drivers and fare surge 99 for the few flexi drivers on the road. And as for KL city center....better just go take teksi again, good luck finding a grab driver.
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I m part timer. do only 3 - 4 hours a day.
so can kick me out already from incentive.
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post Oct 3 2017, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(UntilUComeBack @ Oct 3 2017, 10:56 AM)
daily for GA is die lo.
lagi2 part time.
1 job cancel need kawtim for 7 job.
die.
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1 cancel job u for accepted 10 jobs.
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post Oct 3 2017, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(moosekaka @ Oct 3 2017, 01:25 PM)
those 1:2  fare:incentive ratio drivers are the ones who will be wiped out with this system. it was not the intention of Grab to pay them all incentive and have them only take short trips.. rather it's to compensate those times we get $4 jobs but then get stuck in hour jam.
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short trip could not work in jam area. You wont fast enough to able build up bullet to ignore or cancel job I'd necessary
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post Oct 3 2017, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(moosekaka @ Oct 3 2017, 01:57 PM)
'Building bullets' is precisely the reason why they have to change the system. Better just to adjust mindset to "earn xx amount a day, accept most jobs". CR no control sometimes, just like 1*. If that day is your bad luck to have a lot of no shows....call it a day and go home with fare collected. Too many of those days....consider gantung kunci until systems is changed (hopefully). I expect this wont be the last change Grab will be making.
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Incentive will lower n lower. I sure they will lower again the hourly incentive.
Maybe in future u need complete minimum jobs at least to entitle incentive later.
Part timer who do less then that number of jobs will totally quit.
Today 3 trips per hour average with 1to 2 $12 -$16 jobs all I accept.
Only ignore 1 job above $20 during super jam hours.
Work 4 hours only completed 12 jobs.
Damn risky to play incentive using this method on next week.

But fares collected near to gross 90.
Incentive think only can get gross 20.
SO nett is $90 about.
Per hour only get nett $22.5 without deducting petrol yet.
Xi'an.

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post Oct 3 2017, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(willemng @ Oct 3 2017, 02:11 PM)
My 300 incentive next friday onward..... GONE!
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you work full day 10 hours if able accpet 3 jobs per hour, then u can ignore 4 jobs, cancel 3 jobs. sometimes b2b cancellation from rider also boost your AR.
still good.

only part timer who work 3-4 hours is risky to opt for HG.
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post Oct 3 2017, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(forever1979 @ Oct 3 2017, 08:14 PM)
today i fetch one lady.
she say she waiting 20 monites, no car. the fare is only RM6 at 830am.
then i explain may be some driver very choosy, then she raise her voice, say why crapcar drivers like teksi driver, choose destination

then i try to mention incentive and next week onwards could be worse, but she dont let me continue, and keep telling why without incentive we cannot do , bla bla bla

so i am think if next week onwards, crapcar being regulated and under SPAD, then we cannot ignore or cancel the trip as we wish, so still workable ??

as crapcar driver, of course i cannot accept her reason. how come how fare is fixed and stuck in the jam for say 1 hour. if without incentive, we want to drive wor ???

but as a rider, if driver keep focusing incentive, then how ar ?

so few month later change incentive structure again to accommodate same platform like teksi once crapcar have their own license ??
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tell her everyone want to earn higher living.
if she could not cope with it then go back take normal taxi.

ask her if she is in driver situation, will she behave the same?
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today I try behave like follow next week GH structure.

ignore only 1 trip out of 14 accepted trip. 0% CR. Driving 4 hours.
the incentive I get is 20%, fares 80%.

By using same method calculating flexi earning with minimum $6 top up, the incentive is only $10 more then flexi bonus.
Grab sometimes will give special bonus to flexi also like complete how many jobs then entitle extra pay.

Flexi driver AR 30%, weekly refresh can be choosy now.
I can only ignore 1 trip for GH, stressed. Every time hope don't kena long trip to jam area.

This post has been edited by starex80: Oct 3 2017, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(Kelifu @ Oct 3 2017, 09:47 PM)
End my day..

10am-12pm Crapping

12pm - 2pm Hunting Pendora for gf birthday present at 1U, total lost rm508

215pm - 5pm Car fan motor noisy, change at workshop total lost rm250

515pm - 8pm Crapping

So today is a "TOTAL LOST DAY" for me =)
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2 hours can complete 12 jobs. what place so geng!!!
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post Oct 3 2017, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(Goodboy92 @ Oct 3 2017, 11:42 PM)
I just submit form on apps there , incentive problem .

Thanks

( if they can give detailed incentive why dont they give on email??? )

AP getting 1.3k incentive ZZZZ - even just incentive he got 5.2k d

so pro.

i keep getting 2 to 3 trips average . but fare were not low , and sometime ping came from same place after i run away lols.

do you guys run away from certain area after drop off? or just wait there?

some area seem to be no one going to request , ( housing area ) after that run to more crowded place , then ping came from same place zzz

Why Cyber 9( putrajaya ) to Bandar Bestari Business Park ( bukit tinggi ) ( 40++ km ) fare just rm32??? can grab update it?
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grab calculation is based on the shortest distance.
from cyber 9 (cyberjaya) to the place is 36km only using SKVE, not elite.

see other optional route in google map you will know.

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post Oct 4 2017, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(bcombat @ Oct 4 2017, 01:19 AM)
Grab, Uber's biggest rival in Singapore, currently begins imposing a waiting time penalty after a driver has been waiting for five minutes. Thereafter, the late rider is charged S$3 for every five-minute block.

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/transport/...drivers-waiting
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Not really can benefit.
If the rider keep no appear so u force to cancel yourself or the rider then cancel? Who will pay the penalthy?
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post Oct 4 2017, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Oct 4 2017, 04:34 PM)
No need create fake booking already, there is some customer book and don't even bother to look at the apps, just place it on the table or pocket and wait u to call. Some even told me HP auto shutdown and unable to restart sweat.gif

Just now even 12-2pm i also don't dare to take Grab for lunch, knowing they increase to HP block. The last time i order at P block and any kind of driver would do, staying there for 5 mins and spinning left right, cancelled half way knowing i would wait, third time only can get one, ended up wasted 20min looking at the apps. I use promo code but will tips RM1 on top on the free ride.

Their failure on educating rider has strong effect on them now, u relax on customer side, u losing on driver side. It is like a weighing scale.
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why not dare take grab to lunch?
Not uunderstand the logic

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post Oct 4 2017, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(Goodboy92 @ Oct 4 2017, 04:32 PM)
So the solution for those part timer = drive after peak time = 8pm onward and choose only high fare = LOW FARE surge/ no driver accept

SINCE we can cancel whatever ping ( no incentive )

OR choose flexi-ambassador(20%)
then be flexi from monday to sunday

2 way for part timer
1. choose flexi and be flexi for the week
2 choose incentive , aim high fare week day , aim incentive weekend.

THAT MEAN

GA incentive quite sure to get high fare on peak hour  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

WINNER = GRAB because lower incentive paid out ( more flexi = more income , but the cycle turn back when less driver , less passenger )

LOSER = DRIVER because overall everyone earn lesser / except flexi possible earn more
( if no flexi on peak hour = no driver on peak hour/GA can't earn incentive = grab need to find way to compensate driver = uber way of trip from morning to Zzz for rmZzz which they were currently TEST for 20% comission return last few week << just notice this )

LOSER =CUSTOMER high fare , lower supply

Ask Grab WHY haha.

Maybe this business dint work afterall. ( JUST INCREASE THE FARE ON CUSTOMER!! )

One thing uber were worst ( which grab might follow )
- lower price ( everyone agreed )
- too high price on JAM ( i agreed ) - rm90 for 1hour jam 20+km trip.

HOW? haha
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ah boy analysis not bad.

i would say fulltime incentive less impact and flexi driver no impact.
grab want to kick out part time incentive driver.
part time flexi also less impact.

flexi driver could benefit on higher fare due to surge on less part timer on road.

i think grab mark up price today on 12pm to 2pm.
I didn't see higher fare on request. But it looks lIke charging rider on $1.4 / km

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post Oct 4 2017, 05:29 PM

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Today I receive a ping.

$38 from the south city area to semenyih setia eco hill.

Just now check the Google map take 40 minutes driving, 30km.

Will you as incentive driver go accept?
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post Oct 4 2017, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(moosekaka @ Oct 4 2017, 05:36 PM)
hmmm...after that go Nottingham campus cari ping?  hmm.gif
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But if u drive on HP hours, the fares is almost equal to the 3rd trip. Next week if get this ping I would feel miserable if I still stick to GH incentive.

Today accepted 13 piNg. 2 rider cancel. 1 long distance pIng. No cancel by myself. Driving 3 hours. Risky to get daily incentive when fulfil.

But overall price get mark up during 12pm to 2pm even no high fares stated in ping but I can feel it.

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