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post Sep 7 2018, 03:12 PM

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Can i assume inflation rate averagely for our country is 3%?

IF today annual expenses is RM60,000 p.a. (RM5,000/mth),
and, the inflation rate is 3% p.a., assuming everything is constant,
no change on inflation, no change on life style, no any change.

After 36 years due to just 3% annual inflation, annual expenses would be at RM144,914 (RM12,076/mth).
RM50,000 x (1+0.03) ^36 = RM144,914

How am I going to sustain my life when i'm old and no longer able to work to generate income ?!




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post Sep 7 2018, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(fairylord @ Sep 7 2018, 03:12 PM)
Can i assume inflation rate averagely for our country is 3%?

IF today annual expenses is RM60,000 p.a. (RM5,000/mth),
and, the inflation rate is 3% p.a., assuming everything is constant,
no change on inflation, no change on life style, no any change.

After 36 years due to just 3% annual inflation, annual expenses would be at RM144,914 (RM12,076/mth).
RM50,000 x (1+0.03) ^36 = RM144,914

How am I going to sustain my life when i'm old and no longer able to work to generate income ?!
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The real inflation, if measure by a house in PJ, would have been about 6%. It is the same (not refurbished) house 30/40/50 years back and today.
Whether that is the yardstick to measure expenses or not, well, that depends who you talk to.
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post Sep 7 2018, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(fairylord @ Sep 7 2018, 03:12 PM)
Can i assume inflation rate averagely for our country is 3%?

IF today annual expenses is RM60,000 p.a. (RM5,000/mth),
and, the inflation rate is 3% p.a., assuming everything is constant,
no change on inflation, no change on life style, no any change.

After 36 years due to just 3% annual inflation, annual expenses would be at RM144,914 (RM12,076/mth).
RM50,000 x (1+0.03) ^36 = RM144,914

How am I going to sustain my life when i'm old and no longer able to work to generate income ?!
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That's why either you save like crazy or earn like crazy. When you do that. Your base build up. You have more money to invest and grow your money at faster rate.
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post Sep 7 2018, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 7 2018, 05:57 PM)
That's why either you save like crazy or earn like crazy. When you do that. Your base build up. You have more money to invest and grow your money at faster rate.
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so can you advise him how much he should save up to invest?
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post Sep 7 2018, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(tippman @ Sep 7 2018, 09:02 PM)
so can you advise him how much he should save up to invest?
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Min 30%.Workup your way to 50% or more.
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post Sep 7 2018, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 7 2018, 09:05 PM)
Min 30%.Workup your way to 50% or more.
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30% of what? 50% of what? Your answer as usual is vague
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QUOTE(tippman @ Sep 7 2018, 09:09 PM)
30% of what? 50% of what? Your answer as usual is vague
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What else is there to save up. Income la. doh.gif :You asking save up in what. Obviously is income.

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post Sep 7 2018, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 7 2018, 09:17 PM)
What else is there to save up. Income la. doh.gif :You asking save up in what. Obviously is income.
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if a person like you earn RM4K, 30% of it is RM1.2k, 50% if RM2K so you 1 month also can save up already so what are you going to do with that?
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QUOTE(tippman @ Sep 7 2018, 09:19 PM)
if a person like you earn RM4K, 30% of it is RM1.2k, 50% if RM2K so you 1 month also can save up already so what are you going to do with that?
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Two ways
1) keep investing regardless of price
2) Hold on to cash and deploy when market drop
3) just dump it into amanah saham every month

People who does option 3 will find their wealth increases quite fast. Used to do that.

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post Sep 7 2018, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 7 2018, 09:22 PM)
Two ways
1) keep investing regardless of price
2) Hold on to cash and deploy when market drop
3) just dump it into amanah saham every month

People who does option 3 will find their wealth increases quite fast. Used to do that.
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1) Investing in what? what price are you referring to?
2) deploy into what?
3) Amanah Saham 2018 dividend is 6.25% so let said you save RM2k a month for 12 months and 6.25% is Rm24K x 6.25% = RM25,500 so how long he required to save?
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QUOTE(tippman @ Sep 7 2018, 09:32 PM)
1) Investing in what? what price are you referring to?
2) deploy into what?
3) Amanah Saham 2018 dividend is 6.25% so let said you save RM2k a month for 12 months and 6.25% is Rm24K x 6.25% = RM25,500 so how long he required to save?
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1) & 2) Stocks which pay good dividends.
3) So? Keep in mind that amanah saham returns is calculated based on lowest amount of the month and (every month is counted which means by depositing more money, your 2nd month returns will be hgher and so on and so forth ) and payout to you at the end of the year.
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post Sep 11 2018, 11:56 AM

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thanks tippman & Ramjade for inter-discuss to crystallize the ideas.

I'm starting on 3) and will continue until I shortlist and share portion of monthly into 1) as well, then until 2) happens will withdraw partial of 3) vest into 2).

So now, try EARN + SAVE like crazy.


Need to shortlist some for 1) and 2) to start and monitor, any suggestion?

Interesting on the Ramjade current portfolio and those under surveillance which return expected to be higher than 6% avg, as you mentioned 3) was "Used to do that". innocent.gif

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post Sep 11 2018, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(fairylord @ Sep 11 2018, 11:56 AM)
thanks tippman & Ramjade for inter-discuss to crystallize the ideas.

I'm starting on 3) and will continue until I shortlist and share portion of monthly into 1) as well, then until 2) happens will withdraw partial of 3) vest into 2).

So now, try EARN + SAVE like crazy.
Need to shortlist some for 1) and 2) to start and monitor, any suggestion?

Interesting on the Ramjade current portfolio and those under surveillance which return expected to be higher than 6% avg, as you mentioned 3) was "Used to do that". innocent.gif
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I believed you can do some research on KLSE investor (google it) as I am not sure the website address. It should provide reasonable amount of information for your research in various investing strategies and stock counter that might interest you.

I can't suggest any counter to you because my risk appetite and your risk appetite might be different and my investing strategy and yours might be different as well. All investment come with the risk of losing so I do not want you come to kill me notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

I read a lots of the Edge for my financial information and they have lots of information on the stock counter/companies too.

Hope it provide some clarification to you.

Thanks

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post Sep 11 2018, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(fairylord @ Sep 11 2018, 11:56 AM)
thanks tippman & Ramjade for inter-discuss to crystallize the ideas.

I'm starting on 3) and will continue until I shortlist and share portion of monthly into 1) as well, then until 2) happens will withdraw partial of 3) vest into 2).

So now, try EARN + SAVE like crazy.
Need to shortlist some for 1) and 2) to start and monitor, any suggestion?

Interesting on the Ramjade current portfolio and those under surveillance which return expected to be higher than 6% avg, as you mentioned 3) was "Used to do that". innocent.gif
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As long as companies give you cash, that's real profit. Capital gains only valid if you sell. So I prefer cash payout over capital gains.

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post Sep 19 2018, 12:02 PM

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Hi guys what's your monthly expenses breakdown, and do you consider yourself a spendthrift or thrifty person smile.gif
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House 3712
AKPK 1500 (old days habit big spending on cc and also PL to cover up the cc haiiizzzzz. never again! bangwall.gif
Daycare 1400
Car 760
Insurance 550
Petrol+park+toll 650
Baby necessities 500
Electricity water 500
Postpaids & Internet 300
Saving 1.2k-1.5k
Education Insurance 100
Coway 100
Foods, entertainment etc 1950

i would consider myself as in between spendthrift and thrifty person. i can be both depending on what to buy hahahaha sweat.gif

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post Sep 19 2018, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(DS_Legacy @ Sep 5 2018, 01:26 PM)
Necessities
Eating Out: RM1000 (quite high, I love eating, I pay for my GF and family quite often)
Groceries: RM100 (including non-food items)
Petrol: RM500 (At least 3000 km a month, my well maintained 2006 myvi still 13.3km/l)
Toll: RM250
Phone bill: RM78 (Digi 78)
Parking: RM50-100 (shopping malls, sometimes meet customer)
Parents: RM300 each
Siblings: RM200~ (my brother/sister come ask for help every 3 months)

Subtotal: RM2.8k

Service/insurance/maintenance
Google drive subscription: RM8
PTPTN: RM290
Health + Life insurance: RM210
Auto insurance + road tax saving: RM42 (roughly RM500 every year)
Car maintenance: RM150 (for minor service, major service, change battery, and change tyres)

Subtotal: RM700

Entertainment
Vacation: RM300 (my gf and i go on budget vacation every year)
Movie: RM30 (once a month)

Subtotal: RM330

Grand total is RM2800 + RM700 + RM330 = RM3830 per month.

I actually thought of decreasing the budget for food, but I find no reason to do that. Simply because I don't smoke, drink, gamble, game. My main source of entertainment is eating laugh.gif
I guess the only way to save more is to earn more.
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Cool budget. Would it exceed? I mean in reality?
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QUOTE(eligible @ Sep 19 2018, 04:25 PM)
Cool budget. Would it exceed? I mean in reality?
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It never exceeds tbh. Sometimes my food expenses is about RM800 when i was too busy working laugh.gif

And recently forcing myself to keep fit. 78kg for a 173cm guy is overweight liao. I managed to reduce my weight to 75kg now. Jogging is working and most important thing is it is free




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post Sep 19 2018, 10:39 PM

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My monthly fixed expenses :

31 , single, no gf , stay with parents , driving a fully paid national car.

Housing Commitments : RM 1800 ( including maintenance , utilities) and etc
Petrol & Toll : RM 350
Parents : RM 400
Food : RM 200
Mobile phone : RM 38
Medical card : RM 50
Entertainment and others : RM 200

On average , I am saving 3k per month, could go until 4k , it is because a portion of my income is not fixed every month. What a pathetic life I have.

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post Sep 20 2018, 06:43 AM

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Monthly expenses roughly figure .

Age early 30s and single

Food Rm1000
Grocery for non food and others Rm 800
Entertainment include shopping Rm 2000
Fuel and parking for transport Rm1000
Mom Rm1000
Insurance Rm 400
Utility Rm 500
Telco Rm 300
Travel for business and personal Rm 1000
No loan at the moment

Whatever left is my saving hmm...no fixed income so I don't really track properly.

Total personal monthly Rm 8000

I guess I am more toward spendthrift lol only realised I spend so much after calculation. Time to cut unnecessary spending

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