there's more than one way.

-wrist curls
-plate curls
-wrist rollers
-heavy static holds

among the many

i'm starting to wonder if its genetical that chinese or asians, have pretty weak LAT development.

Throw the first 2

Mine would be

- Chin+Pull-ups with various grips
- Pendlay, Bent Over BB Row
- Back lever (Don't ask, google)

you~
need a haircut

hey
i mean, impressive lat development la....but since everybody already saying that, i say la, he needs a haircut.

btw jones, you sure you're only about 70+KG?
You look much thicker than me....how high do you stand at?

jonesy height?

omg......so fast 78?
man..i'm still at 71-72 only.....you super fast grower thing you

Ni la gambar sial aku.....my house's a mess, freaking hell....
not much back dev, since haven't been doing much back training


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it is pretty good for n00bs that really can't pull-up.......actually i feel anybody can do a pull-up, it's the body that doesn't know how to coordinate it right yet....but with time, anybody can

thanks for the compliments guys, i take nobody actually can see that my right lat is larger than my left lat hahaha! been focusing a bit too much on assistance 1 arm pull-ups i suppose... Mebbeh i'll post a leg picture...it looks, like a block of chunky ass muscle. Horrible.

some, after doing a lil pull-ups pic.....u will not see mai face

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Added on August 19, 2007, 9:44 pmbtw my waist is 29"
someone asked bfr.

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weight is EXACTLY the same

measurement, i didn't measure the first time anyway so i don't really noe

i do a bit more right armed pull-up, cuz i'm tryin to achieve a 1 arm-pull-up. Right now, using 1 left finger and 3 right fingers. Hopefully can get 1-arm pull-ups in this year.

nxt up on the list, planche, iron-cross, 10 muscle-ups, and a 265LBS bench!!

oh okay thank you
but does this apply to 1-arm pul-ups?
anyway i'll try la.....hopefully it'l work

you've never tried one-arm-pull-ups eh?

I can do up to 18 max, so maybe one of the factors I can't do a 1-arm-pull-up is cuz I'm not strong enough, but trust me on this, it's not that easy to do a 1-arm-pull-up.

Right now I think i've been doin it too much or someting, cuz my palms are the ones suffering the most. They're torn badly.....it isn't even hardcore anymore. It's more to plain painfully damaging to my hands.

it's not the grip, AT ALL
nothing to do with my grip strength
my grip's strong enough, it's just the back strength,the coordination, the CNS that makes it so tough.

Simple
many average guys

focus on their chests, and biceps
i'm not saying noel, he looks like he has developed some good size too.

measure the bar again
an oly bar ISN'T 45LBS.
It's 40+- LBS. I think the safety brackets are the extra 5lbs, so if u dun use safety brackets, don't say it's 45lbs.

i HONESTLY don't get eating KFC for cutting
despite watching calories......i DON'T get it.....lmao!
anyway that's just me.....strength's my game, not asthetics. bye

i have a problem with post workout meals. It doesn't matter how much, I can't seem to feel full. I eat one whole chicken (including skin yes, fat yes, of course) but i don't get full.
I can eat a tonne of beef (we actually calculated that day with a friggin weighing scale, i stopped at 2.1KG's cuz we had to go home)

It's just absurd. And I feel hungry after an hour again.....like ravenously hungry. I think, I've got worms. NO seriously, I think I have worms. The next morning, I'm hungry again!!

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after training, i don't feel full much. U can ask darkie, if he's still around....we did legs one time, and he was dead pooped, i was jumping around and eatin everything in sight.

Unlike u king, I ain't much of a KFC fan....but if I do eat KFC, i'll get nauseated after a while by the salty taste. SO I let my cousins take the flesh and i eat the skin and fats. Yummehhhhhhh!!!! Then I eat proper food how ironic. I seriously, seriously, LOVE beef. I also love nandos and kenny rogers chickin. Yum!