How long is the warranty covers?


I also interested in projector, but my theatre room is too bright because of the large windows

dunno.
but got warranty also such a hassle to send back

my Nexus 7 kaput, warranty still valid but yet need to go to KL to repair also i got no time to go

like that got warranty also no use

You are right. It is cool. However, the left and right speakers only 15W + 15W and the subwoofer is 30W. Total is 60W...considered cool? I don' think so...

yeah, it's why product durability is very important (or atleast have a nearby service center )

turtle beach so far i heard got really good sound but the quality is a bit fragil, i think 1 of my fren bought it 3 months and somehow it broke.

my speculation, it really depend on the output, is it coming out from console it self or was "channel" and out put via 3.5mm jack.
That is why i bought the Sony PS3 headset. I was thinking buying a wired headset like Audio Technica and hook up to a portable amplifier like Hippo Cricri Amplifier .

Would the sound improve? or do i just stick with gaming headset like steelseries, razor , and etc etc

The problem with headset is not all headset have the option for you to control the volume, for example when i enter a game starting with their logo it going to full burst(either without putting it on u can clearly hear it) and then once in the game it will reduce back to normal or the volume that was set in the game menu.

Like watching bluray on PS3 , reducing the volume on the menu doesn't reduce much sound coming out from the headphone.
if i put on the headset and watch an hour of show with minimal volume , i would be deaf

Okay first things first, stay the hell away from gaming headsets.
I've went through enough gaming headsets (like 7 I think?) to finally come to conclusion that no, gaming headsets are not good simply because of how much you're paying for them.

Since you are in a small bedroom, your best sort of setup would have to come from a wired headphones connected to a DAC and an amp.
In this case, because we're talking about the PS3 here I assume — the DAC you'll want would be a Turtle Beach DSS or an Astro Mixamp, whichever fits your bill more.

Why a source which would give you virtual surround sound? Because Dolby Headphones work and it works wonders when paired up with a proper headphone. I don't want to make guarantees here since sound is still a subjective thing, but I'm willing to really recommend you a setup like this and if you still prefer something from a gaming headset, my treat for a meal.

Now, what is your budget for a headphone? Depending on what you get, you might not need an amp first because therer are headphones which are pretty easy to drive without needing additional power.
The TB DSS is already out of production, so most that are still selling in LYN here are old stocks at quite an expensive price (unless you can hunt for a cheap second hand?).
Suggest you get one from eBay

Some would suggest to go for an Astro Mixamp instead because it allows you to connect a mic to it for voice chat on the PS3. I personally do not do this as the Astro Mixamp is simply too expensive, even off eBay.
For voice chat on the PS3, I use a bluetooth mic. Yeah, bluetooth mic.

Specifically, an iTech Clip On II which I just clip to my shirt. Set the default audio output device for the bluetooth mic to my system output device (which in this case, the TB DSS) and done! Wireless voice chat through to my headphones, one less wire clutter.


No they're hopeless man.

The cheapest TB wireless headset (X41) that features 2.4/5ghz dual band wireless signal goes for like RM600?
You then content with cheap ass build quality and subpar sound quality.

A cheap wired audiophile Superlux HD681 Evo + TB DSS + Bluetooth mic would go for less than RM600 and I will say this much: will sound heaps better than the TB X41.

Otherwise, like I said to jellybean-fish, meal is on me.


As I explained to your first question, your source would need to come from a surround mix. Which is why you need a virtual surround processor, like a TB DSS.
Yes the M50 is a better heapdhone than the first-gen PS3 headset.

The bass extends deeper without rolling off into nothingness like the PS3 headset before it even touches the sub-bass frequencies. There's no punch in that.
Mids are more forward on the M50 though which results in much better detail but the highs (treble) might be a little bit too harsh/bright for your taste (for me at least, it was) though.

An amplifier is as what it is, an amplifier. A lot of people buy an amp hoping to drastically change and improve a headphone's sound signature. That is simply a wrong misconception.
An amp is there to provide a headphone with clean, un-colored power to it so that when a headphone hits certain frequencies, it doesn't sound like it's crapping out i.e a sudden drop in volume, distortion, or even just being dull sounding over all.


I've never ran into a situation like this since I went with a full wired headphone set up. Volume is controlled for me regardless of what I'm playing or watching.
Sometimes there are games which mixes its audio wrongly though, like in logos many would mix their intros in stereo and then go back to 5.1 in-game assuming you have 5.1 enabled. You could blame that on inconsistency.

Power does not mean sound quality.

Sometimes, 30w is plenty for a small space. Jamming a 100w sub in the same small space would overwhelm all the other signals.
It really depends on the area.

Also, power ratings on subs are really vague.

The really cool part is, you got it for free...

I'm avoiding gaming headsets because of i'm not always playing games or watching movies alone... and i'm always felt irritated at my ears even using it for 15 minutes (maybe i got huge pair of ears )

is true on subwoofer as my middle size rooms did shake once use my rythmik subwoofer and so i dont open subwoofer for gaming just for movie...

wait, what's wrong with a bluetooth mic? i use one too!

how do you use a bluetooth mic with a headphone?
one of the things that drew me to the TB was the all in one nature of their headsets(top range, i mean)

i cant imagine wearing a bluetooth headset under a pair of headphones

This post has been edited by Mgsrulz: Aug 27 2013, 10:26 AM

I'm using an itech clip-on bluetooth mic.
Clip the mic onto my shirt, set the output audio on the bluetooth device to system default instead of the mic itself. This routes voice chat audio to my source, which would be my TB DSS > amp > headphone.

I'm not wearing anything under my headphones at all. I just clip my mic to my shirt, that's it.
Not that desperate to do something so uncomfortable.

Any type of bluetooth mic will work, just make sure you get your voice to transmit properly so people can hear you.

Forget the all-in-one convenience, paying RM900 or more for something like the PX51 just doesn't make sense. The sound quality it has is just... atrocious, if you compare it to a similar RM900 audiophile headphone. Like putting crap mixed with mud and urine in your ears for no reason.

I'd thumbs up the PX51 if it was sold for like RM500 or something around that area, RM900+? lol...

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Aug 27 2013, 11:08 AM

the hell, who knew clip ons actually have a positive use?

I'm using an over ear headset, will try and hook it on my shirt or something...goofy way of wearing an ear based set

actually i was eyeing the blacks ops tango..RM629+-

THanks SSJBen for the lesson. I agreed with your expert advice too. I used it in my medium room which should be considered moderate enough.

Might as well buy a Creative Aurvana Live (RM400) + TB DSS (RM100+ from ebay). It's a little bit messier with more cables, but IMO it is worth the slight incovenience.

I've tested so many of these gaming headsets and they're just not worth the money. Don't waste your money on it.
If you absolutely need to have wireless, get a Plyr1 - http://www.skullcandy.com/shop/shop-all

The Sony Pulse Elite on the other hand is also an okay alternative, except that it's had a lot of dying batteries (non of which are reviveable mind you).

Otherwise, wired is the way to go.

found a local seller selling off his final stocks of TB DSS2 for about RM230.
after your comments on the TB headsets, figured that would be the way to go since I've already got 1 wired headset and 1 wired cum wireless(bluetooth,not RF) headset that i can try out.

but this'll have to be end of next month damn insurance renewal killed my budget this month

interesting, never knew they had so many types of headsets
i always see the music variants being sold here in LYN, never saw their wireless headset before.

the main reason for my wanting to go wireless is because of the wires-I've got 4 HDMI devices in the room, with a USB cable dangling out of the TV(to plug in hard disks) and my laptop as well as power adaptors in between....simply put, it's a mess as it is to bring in more cables is an even bigger headache. plus i like the freedom of wireless-i tend to get wires tangled fairly easily.

the Sony Pulse headsets looks really good, but unfortunately it's using a dongle-i hate dongles..they get lost so easily.
....yeah, i know, banyak problem on my end


btw, one last thing; have you tried using a bluetooth cum wired headset with the ps3?
i keep meaning to try this but never get the chance.

a headset, NOT BUILT FOR GAMING, but rather A2DP streaming from phone to headset with Mic support, connected via 3.5mm plug to the receiver/TV, with bluetooth connected to the PS3 for voice chat.

I'm wondering how it'll work.
Will voice chat cut out the music from the game? (if so, it'll be ridiculously annoying-one minute gun fire, another minute voice chat..)
or will they work in tandem with one another like normal bt headsets + surround systems? (this would be awesome-gunfire and in game music together with team mates chatter going on together)

Don't suggest you go for DSS2. Doesn't use Dolby Headphones instead TB uses their own proprietary HRTF by accepting a Dolby Digital signal. Sounds really weird IMO.

As for headset... why not just connect directly into the PS3 then with a USB to 3.5mm input adapter? Don't have to go through the phone then through bluetooth then to the PS3.
Unless you're saying you want to Skype through your phone and want the voice to play on your main speakers/headset/headphone.

Thanks for the clarify Ben

Time for me to hunt a DSS earforce or similiar product and USB to 3.5mm input adapter , 1 more question.

let say i have a DSS earforce and a Sony MDR with dobly technology would be better or just any headset you will still get the virtual surround.
I can't remember what the name i was using the SONY , i kinda bought it 4 years ago.

This post has been edited by jellybean-fish: Aug 27 2013, 07:52 PM

No problem.

The DSS is your DAC + DSP for a headphone.
Virtual surround sound (HRTF) works for any type of stereo headphone (or headset) as long as it receives a proper surround mix — which in this case is Dolby Digital 5.1 since the DSS uses Dolby Headphones as its virtual surround algorithm.

Most PS3 games are at least mixed in 5.1 with Dolby Digital support. There are games (particularly plenty of PSN titles) are only in stereo, which the DSS would then upmix the stereo audio to a faux 7.1 a.k.a Dolby Pro Logic II.
I personally don't like upmixing a 2 channel source to surround signals, as it opens up the soundstage of a headphone till the point where positional accuracies are loss. Not all games are like that and it certainly depends on the type of headphones that is in use.

As for the USB to 3.5mm input adapter, like I said... you can use a bluetooth mic or a headset. One less cable to worry about IMO.
Also, most bluetooth mics has a volume control for voice, where you won't have to deal with your ears bursting blood when whiny 13 year old kids or idiots who shout in your ears for no reason.