their petrol price are too expansive + gomen give rebates if jump to EV (which quite lucrative) + saving using EV instead put expansive petrol. Here rm1.99 hardly can ROI let alone justify to spend big for EV.

This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Nov 5 2025, 04:47 PM

When I am in office, that is on 29th Floor, then I wonder if I lock my car door or not...That is where Honda connect comes in and the great thing is it can remote lock from the office. No need go all the way down to car. It happened in shopping mall as well. Very forgetful. Always have to ask my wife if I lock the car door or not!!

If I can see my car, just press button also can liao, no need see.

The last month HM promotion has been extended to this month... I have great interest on RS version. But I have few queries on the following, hope RS owners could provide me some insights

a. The 8-year warranty covers the entire electric system or battery only, means all electrical components, motor, generator, etc under warranty cover?

b. Wonder the EV battery price will drop after 8-year as the demand is getting higher , especially after warranty over, car owners need to replace those parts ourselves...?

Thanks in advance

a. The 8-year warranty is battery only. The hybrid drivetrain falls under the same 5-year warranty.
b. Unlikely that the price will drop because the production is controlled by Honda, so it's not like all of a sudden it'll drop in pricing because of other market factors. I wouldn't worry too much about this — you see so many Lexus CT200h and Prius hybrids still going around lol

The weakness of Honda vs Toyota is Honda give 8 years battery ONLY warranty, all the related parts including the expensive inverter not included. Toyota gives 8 years full battery and related coverage INCLUDING inverters. I would like to add that both car manufacturer only provide 5 years warranty for ALL other parts such as motors aka eCVT, air-cond electrical compressor, etc. The 8 years warranty of Toyota only covered the battery AND its direct related battery connected parts such as Inverter, etc, not other electronic or electrical components.

So you can see how stingy or lesser confident they have towards their own hybrid products. If you look at it, iMMD is a recent major achievement of Honda, not incremental update of older system that HSD has been doing for their system. So it is technically still a pretty new system as it previous gen is not call iMMD and has a totally different setup.

Toyota do have MAJOR advantage of many more years of successful hybrid implementation with incremental upgrade. Their implementation is also simpler to maintain.

Anyway i still love Honda iMMD system more vs Toyota HSD. HSD IS simpler to maintain and more durable with less mechanical parts to wear vs iMMD setup that uses clutches, etc.

However iMMD system gives you much more pronounce EV like experience as it mostly uses electrical motor up to 70km/h meaning the motor will connect directly to the differential to power the wheel when driving below 70km/h.

Toyota HSD patented super efficient planetary gear system combined motor and engine power most of time as it deems fit that you really cannot feel if motor or engine is moving the car aka it just feel like engine drive most of time with super fuel efficiency unlike iMMD that gives you semi EV drive experience. It is super efficient but for me, it sort of lose the pronounce EV like feel that IMMD gives especially during City drive.

Back to Battery. So far the cost should be similar to Toyota, about RM 8-10k for battery and if adds up inverter, up to 17K++. Do note 8 years warranty does not mean the battery will die in 8 years. It can last longer for most cases and many change car later without battery failing yet. Think about it, at least if need to be, we can still afford to change the battery thru official channel vs EV but then many EV battery last really really long based on many real world study.

So when buying RS, think first that you will get AN EV like driving experience especially during City drive without the range anxiety. You are paying for that experience. Unfortunately many ppl overlook that pronounced EV experience and only look at at material cost only when calculate the higher price range of hybrid.

If cost anxiety is of major concern then hybrid or even EV might not be the right car in Malaysia (due to high car price and cheap petrol) coz the resale value also got hit very hard just like ev and always need to worry what the cost of battery replacement if keep long term.

Well the savings you get from petrol over the years can accumulate to replace the battery when it's life ended (unless you drive super low mileage). So you don't really lose much, just the resale value drop hard, that is the one major lose you CANNOT avoid and have to bear if you want a Hybrid or EV. If future costing is an issue, that is one major cost aspect you should not overlook when getting hybrid or EV. Finally, while electrical and electronic parts tend to be more efficient and last longer, once if fail, it will usually cost a bomb vs its petrol counterpart for parts such as electrical compressor that double the price of mechanical compressor.

This post has been edited by Cavino: Nov 7 2025, 09:51 AM

FB group
can join this FB group and read on few cases of EV, Hybrid, PHEV cars that just pop up battery errors after warranty ended - for own study and budget purposes. Truthfully, it generally at high cost, but hopefully in the future, the Battery replacement parts will become cheaper, similar to solar panels price/ sizes last time vs now

This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Nov 7 2025, 09:06 AM

agreed with all ur points. Read many cases of Toyota Prius cases (since many owners thought the Toyota battery wouldn't deteriorate). Still, when issues related to the battery arose, owners needed to spend big for the battery and battery-related system replacement. Saw many cases, owner had to be settled with reconditioned battery replacement - due to cost.

This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Nov 7 2025, 09:12 AM

Wow, a comprehensive and analytical write up. Thanks for sharing .

We are in the transition stage to move away from fossil fuel to electricity, reduce carbon footprint. I believe the fuel price and subsidy will increase and reduce respectively. On top of that, ICE car may subject to carbon tax (to be finalised by government)...

I tends to drive in city more often than outstation, may be twice in a year, thus I am looking at hybrid car with great interest and not full EV in view of the EV charging infrastructure and home charging related issue...

Hardly see hybrid cars like Honda Insight, Toyota Prius on the road , are they still working well ?

Well, thanks again for all your feedback and sharing.

This post has been edited by auronthas: Nov 7 2025, 12:21 PM

Btw, everyone keep saying battery price will drop in future but I won't bet too much on it. Pricing might drop but then the demand of battery for hybrids and EV might go up as well. Production of battery might hit a limit, we never know for sure.

So just keep 10K to 17K++ as safe bet if you want to keep car long term. Changing battery outside (there are specialist workshops in Klang Valley) is doable but if you want go back SC for compatibility assurance, than just keep the above amount in mind. You might never need it but save all the petrol savings now for that purpose...hahaha..

If you decide to sell car off after warranty expire, then no need concern about battery but the one major financial loss you cannot avoid is the resale value. The difference might be way higher than battery replacement cost. So changing battery might be a lesser cost in this case. EV battery change is another story tho....that one, really selling it off might be better, although outside workshop can change battery cells individually instead of the entire packs, way cheaper but not official change, there is always a risk.

At least our battery size that is about 1.1Kw for CRV, 1Kw for Civic and 1.3Kw for City size is not huge, so can still fall below RM 10K range just for battery change.

Also unlike petrol car tech, hybrids and EV battery tech are improving leaps and bound nowadays. So no need to look too much on history on how lasting the battery can be. The way the ICU control and maintain power is quite different even for Honda current gen iMMD vs last gen i-DCD. Also our current gen are using e-CVT, technically motorized transmission or single gear vs older dual clutch transmission. An example of the big changes how the power is used. So looking at Honda old historical records to evaluate future maintenance might not be accurate.

Just my 2 cents only.

This post has been edited by Cavino: Nov 7 2025, 04:59 PM

Very well said. The CR-V hybrid experience is heralded as a premium and refined (smooth) experience on Reddit compared to RAV4 in the U.S., and admittedly I watch a ton of U.S. car reviews so that’s what really sold me lol.

However if I were get a new car today, I’d probably get the Model Y or Zeekr 7X haha for YOLO. I got the CR-V before my condo installed public chargers at visitor lots, haiyaaaa

Now rebate can go up to rm26k?

i have another Honda car hybrid other than the recent CRV RS hybrid i-MMD i purchased last june.

2018 Honda City hybrid i-dcd, using DCT dry clutch, clocked in 99,700km for the past 7 years till now.
only used to go to work, 20km round trip daily.
average ~22km/l FC for 100% town driving, ~24km/l mixed.
wet market trips, small grocery shops to buy groceries, short distance trips only.

Did went back to my hometown in KL from jitra once or twice last time. Main long distance balik kampung car was 2017 Honda BRV before i traded in at the same Honda SC i bought it and bought the CRV RS hybrid.

so far, no issue on the hybrid battery system, except now i see the max range has decreasing trend year by year:

1st year of purchase, can get ~850km per full tank.
2nd year, ~830km.
3rd year, ~800km.
4th year,, ~750km.
5th year, ~700km,
6th and 7th, ~650km at best.

*data acquired by Trip B reset and left with 1 bar only method

but i don't mind as long as i just need to refuel petrol once every 3 weeks or once every month if i do frequent hypermiling.

but being a DCT dry clutch, common issue among users shared in Honda city hybrid idcd FB group was that the clutch pack getting slips due to aggressive and frequent CREEPING during heavy traffic jams.
a friend of mine had to spent nearly ~RM10k for clutch pack replacement from 3rd party mech workshop who specialized in hybrid repair in Kulim Kedah.
did ask for quotation from Honda SC, they quoted ~RM20k

right now, i am quite interested in trading in that honda city hybrid i-dcd with Honda eN1 EV, with RM34k rebate + maybe RM30,000 or less trade in value (last time bought it at RM89,200 in 2018 with the hybrid incentive introduction by government back then).

but one thing holding me from purchase is that, it uses NMC battery type, which prone to fire hazard due to thermal instability compared to LFP battery. Sked kababoom while parked even not charging for long time

so to answer your question, don't worry about Honda or Toyota hybrid cars.
they tend to last long, unless you frequent wade through minor floods, liquids spill inside rear bonnet seeping through the hybrid battery and will cause damage, etc

Despite the concern on the battery or resale value, i buy it due to the space, budget and the toyol inside (ie OSD, full lcd meter and light at door trim). also want to try hybrid coz planning to get EV as retirement car (mindset shift)

just have positive thought and keep the decision making simple
1. battery issue - after warranty expired just get outside. maybe expensive but still cheaper compared to SC.
2. other battery related component - fix outside or try to get recon/kedai potong
3. resale value - if cannot sale then just keep as my spare car. like my xtrail t30..hehehe

This post has been edited by fazleysyam: Nov 9 2025, 08:44 PM

finally done my first budi! left 40km and pumped 40L. macam tak cukup full tank. lol

Non RS yes close

RS I think Honda control the production, some dealer claim limited or no more 2025 units. Still offer >20k off if you can find one

My friend booked RS , waiting for a month plus, still have not received his car. Seriously if RS is still in production? But yesterday HM announced 300 units limited edition V and E Specs for 25th anniversary... why they not push hybrid business ? No good ? What happen future support and maintenance for hybrid ?

Hybrid has become one of the major seller for Honda in many countries. It is because of the low petrol price here that it is not as popular here especially when the pricing of Honda hybrid are significantly more expensive than its petrol counterpart. So fewer units were available here.

Unlike some newly entered brands in Malaysia, the name Honda is the one of the key stable factor for car buyers here. Honda is here to stay and won't run away. So you can always get support here. It is still one of the selling points advantage of Honda. Hybrid will be one of the mainstay of honda before all future jump to EV (if the trend continue). So no worries about the future maintenance of it.

Produce now means need to sell at a discount due to cross year so make sense to reduce production of expensive variant ?

Which branch he booked ? I was offered a white ex-stock (last unit) at bangsar, other showrooom also happily offer only if they have stock but I’m likely getting the E lah petrol is not my concern

This post has been edited by bearbear: Nov 14 2025, 06:26 PM

Yes, from YouTube, I noticed many western reviewers provided positive review on RS Touring as well good comments from car owners. Just that not so favorite in Malaysia, perhaps our fuel is cheaper.

Or may be they need to clear stock for year 2025 and not carry over the 2025 chassis number for next year? That's my guess.

I am not sure which branch but in Selangor, he ordered meteored gray colour, may be less in production...