QUOTE(auronthas @ Nov 7 2025, 11:57 AM)
Wow, a comprehensive and analytical write up. Thanks for sharing .
We are in the transition stage to move away from fossil fuel to electricity, reduce carbon footprint. I believe the fuel price and subsidy will increase and reduce respectively. On top of that, ICE car may subject to carbon tax (to be finalised by government)...
I tends to drive in city more often than outstation, may be twice in a year, thus I am looking at hybrid car with great interest and not full EV in view of the EV charging infrastructure and home charging related issue...
Hardly see hybrid cars like Honda Insight, Toyota Prius on the road , are they still working well ? Well, thanks again for all your feedback and sharing.
i have another Honda car hybrid other than the recent CRV RS hybrid i-MMD i purchased last june.
2018 Honda City hybrid i-dcd, using DCT dry clutch, clocked in 99,700km for the past 7 years till now.
only used to go to work, 20km round trip daily.
average ~22km/l FC for 100% town driving, ~24km/l mixed.
wet market trips, small grocery shops to buy groceries, short distance trips only.
Did went back to my hometown in KL from jitra once or twice last time. Main long distance balik kampung car was 2017 Honda BRV before i traded in at the same Honda SC i bought it and bought the CRV RS hybrid.
so far, no issue on the hybrid battery system, except now i see the max range has decreasing trend year by year:
1st year of purchase, can get ~850km per full tank.
2nd year, ~830km.
3rd year, ~800km.
4th year,, ~750km.
5th year, ~700km,
6th and 7th, ~650km at best.
*data acquired by Trip B reset and left with 1 bar only method but i don't mind as long as i just need to refuel petrol once every 3 weeks or once every month if i do frequent hypermiling.
but being a DCT dry clutch, common issue among users shared in
Honda city hybrid idcd FB group was that the clutch pack getting slips due to aggressive and frequent CREEPING during heavy traffic jams.
a friend of mine had to spent nearly ~RM10k for clutch pack replacement from 3rd party mech workshop who specialized in hybrid repair in Kulim Kedah.
did ask for quotation from Honda SC, they quoted ~RM20k
right now, i am quite interested in trading in that honda city hybrid i-dcd with Honda eN1 EV, with RM34k rebate + maybe RM30,000 or less trade in value (last time bought it at RM89,200 in 2018 with the hybrid incentive introduction by government back then).
but one thing holding me from purchase is that, it uses NMC battery type, which prone to fire hazard due to thermal instability compared to LFP battery. Sked kababoom while parked even not charging for long time
so to answer your question, don't worry about Honda or Toyota hybrid cars.
they tend to last long, unless you frequent wade through minor floods, liquids spill inside rear bonnet seeping through the hybrid battery and will cause damage, etc