The weakness of Honda vs Toyota is Honda give 8 years battery ONLY warranty, all the related parts including the expensive inverter not included. Toyota gives 8 years full battery and related coverage INCLUDING inverters. I would like to add that both car manufacturer only provide 5 years warranty for ALL other parts such as motors aka eCVT, air-cond electrical compressor, etc. The 8 years warranty of Toyota only covered the battery AND its direct related battery connected parts such as Inverter, etc, not other electronic or electrical components.
So you can see how stingy or lesser confident they have towards their own hybrid products. If you look at it, iMMD is a recent major achievement of Honda, not incremental update of older system that HSD has been doing for their system. So it is technically still a pretty new system as it previous gen is not call iMMD and has a totally different setup.
Toyota do have MAJOR advantage of many more years of successful hybrid implementation with incremental upgrade. Their implementation is also simpler to maintain.
Anyway i still love Honda iMMD system more vs Toyota HSD. HSD IS simpler to maintain and more durable with less mechanical parts to wear vs iMMD setup that uses clutches, etc.
However iMMD system gives you much more pronounce EV like experience as it mostly uses electrical motor up to 70km/h meaning the motor will connect directly to the differential to power the wheel when driving below 70km/h.
Toyota HSD patented super efficient planetary gear system combined motor and engine power most of time as it deems fit that you really cannot feel if motor or engine is moving the car aka it just feel like engine drive most of time with super fuel efficiency unlike iMMD that gives you semi EV drive experience. It is super efficient but for me, it sort of lose the pronounce EV like feel that IMMD gives especially during City drive.
Back to Battery. So far the cost should be similar to Toyota, about RM 8-10k for battery and if adds up inverter, up to 17K++. Do note 8 years warranty does not mean the battery will die in 8 years. It can last longer for most cases and many change car later without battery failing yet. Think about it, at least if need to be, we can still afford to change the battery thru official channel vs EV but then many EV battery last really really long based on many real world study.
So when buying RS, think first that you will get AN EV like driving experience especially during City drive without the range anxiety. You are paying for that experience. Unfortunately many ppl overlook that pronounced EV experience and only look at at material cost only when calculate the higher price range of hybrid.
If cost anxiety is of major concern then hybrid or even EV might not be the right car in Malaysia (due to high car price and cheap petrol) coz the resale value also got hit very hard just like ev and always need to worry what the cost of battery replacement if keep long term.
Well the savings you get from petrol over the years can accumulate to replace the battery when it's life ended (unless you drive super low mileage). So you don't really lose much, just the resale value drop hard, that is the one major lose you CANNOT avoid and have to bear if you want a Hybrid or EV. If future costing is an issue, that is one major cost aspect you should not overlook when getting hybrid or EV. Finally, while electrical and electronic parts tend to be more efficient and last longer, once if fail, it will usually cost a bomb vs its petrol counterpart for parts such as electrical compressor that double the price of mechanical compressor.
Wow, a comprehensive and analytical write up. Thanks for sharing .
We are in the transition stage to move away from fossil fuel to electricity, reduce carbon footprint. I believe the fuel price and subsidy will increase and reduce respectively. On top of that, ICE car may subject to carbon tax (to be finalised by government)...
I tends to drive in city more often than outstation, may be twice in a year, thus I am looking at hybrid car with great interest and not full EV in view of the EV charging infrastructure and home charging related issue...
Hardly see hybrid cars like Honda Insight, Toyota Prius on the road , are they still working well ?
Well, thanks again for all your feedback and sharing.