2024 Honda CR-V e:HEV RS price announced – range-topping hybrid is RM196k, RM14k more than V AWD

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That is over 26K more than E spec...about 30K difference for 9 years inclusive interest. Haiz..

Hybrid is really a luxurious specs. It is supposed to save fuel cost and environment...so it burned money to save fuel cost..

This post has been edited by Cavino: Jan 16 2024, 10:14 AM

Different people has different needs/wants/desires

For me, I want peace of mind and didn't want any hybrid.
1. Fuel saving. For my driving style, probably need a decade to recoup back the difference.
2. Headache. A friend has a hybrid and the car wouldn't start. Has to be towed to workshop because they don't know whether it's the 12V battery or the hybrid battery dead. Turns out to be the 12V.
3. Hybrid probably more difficult to resell. Many people are afraid of battery replacement.
4. No spare tires. Couldn't get use to without on occasion long drive.

The only thing attraction is the higher torque.

The EV driving mode unlike T brand, will utlize EV mode all the way at low to mid speed. If usually driven in City area, the experience will be full silent EV torque driving experience without range anxiety. No turbo lag. Of course, there will be engine charging the battery, but CRV and Civic 2.0 engine noise is low. The additional resonator on the tyres reduced the road noise.

My main concern with turbo would be, the slow pickup from rest, before the turbo kicks in.

CRV is family vehicle and all reviews indicated acceleration are actually ok, no slow frustration (smooth and gradual). Don't expect "turbo" feel like sedan turbo anyway, at least not with CRV.

Now if with V spec AWD, that one even slower. But if I can accept Toyota Cross and even slower Subaru XV acceleration, I should have no issue with that. At least not the tak boleh jalan like the old 2011 persona I have. So frustrated in jam until I change to lighten crank pulley for that car (after that, pickup increased exponentially). If I can live with that car, any car acceleration is good...hahaha..

If I really go for CRV in the end, its likely the E spec....but I will always be wondering then especially if driven a lot in City, the substantially increased in pickup speed, ev and ecvt smoothness,(although still gradual, not turbo type like true EV car), would I regret not buying the RS....but looking at the price of RS with a difference of 30k, regret also useless its over the original budget by a great deal for me.

This post has been edited by Cavino: Jan 16 2024, 04:00 PM

You have actually driven all those cars?

I have briefly test driven the Cross and it was OK. Never driven the XV.

Actually I have the exact same thought as you earlier until I sat in my friend's Civic eHev.

1. Fuel saving. Forget about fuel saving if you don't drive like crazy in City, even without the subsidy, it would take a long time to make up the price difference, not to mentioned, in long term, the additional cost of replacement battery, the inverter, control unit, motor, clutch, etc.
2. With new tech, comes new headache that road side mechanic cannot solve. Have to go back Honda, that is given once you go hybrid.
3. If I get Hybrid, at my age, probably I would just use until it become scrap. Still a Honda, got resale value wan, just likely resale at same pricing as V or E spec, losing at least 30 to 40k extra that you paid for Hybrid but that did not matter for me much. Just face that we will have to spend at least 20K in future for battery, inverter, etc if they failed or for battery its a matter of when.
4. Ok...that one, I also hate. I already kena tyre puncture many times liao. So now, just placed a spare tyre pump (michelin, 70 mai) in cars that I travel. If puncture is not too big, just pump and rush until reach tyre shop. If too big where the air just won't fill up...habis.

Going back to Civic eHev, its really not just the instant torque that attracts me, its the smoothness of acceleration, the quietness of the ride besides the very clear tyre/road noise. It brings a very different type of upgraded enjoyment. The heavier weight stabilize the car even more. The engine charging the battery is normal muted Honda engine noise, not the noisy ones like T Cross, H City and HRV. Of course the full digital panels also makes it very nice.

CRV trying to reduce the road noise with the tyre resonator, so that will minimize the noise further. Have not got the chance to test drive any CRV yet. With the many extra features, the RS is very tempting except the price makes it too high for me to get especially with more EV, Hybrid coming in the future. Unlike old tech cars, we can drive 20 years no problem, still feel the same. New tech will many screens, tech, will feel extremely dated after many years. More chances of failures. I have change my opinion and can't use the original opinion that I can use the car until it become scrap especially with EV and Hybrids.

This post has been edited by Cavino: Jan 17 2024, 09:54 AM

I am also thinking to just settle for the E. Convince me otherwise.

I test drive all of them but keep delaying them. Cross is ok if you drive alone but I hated the feet room (not legroom, hehe). If I sit behind, my 11" feet will have half of them under the front chair and the raised middle floor somehow makes it so tight to move my feet left and right, knee room is ok but my feet just have to be planted in same position, very a bit claustrophobic for me. I can't stand the legbrake and dangling cable for Carplay and AA. Acceleration is ok and I expect better from CRV, not by much but if its ok with Cross, definitely no problem with CRV acceleration with its much higher torque. Heard report that legbrake will be replaced by EPB for Asean models in facelift this year...see first if not buy CRV.

Now the XV, I almost bought it...but somehow want to see CRV pricing first. That ride really have high ground clearance, raised floor due to that. Feel safe during flood. The acceleration is really really slow, over 10 to 13s. The best part is actually the Asymmetrical AWD unique to Subaru. When I drove and do fast cornering, nothing special....then I realised, I have compared with sedan cars....it feels the same, body rolls, etc, feels stable like lower sedan rides (there is still bits of body roll), but darn stable. So that by itself is really impressive for a small crossover. For XV, just looking at the car, nothing too special, its the driving experience that excel, you have to drive it to feel it. Only thing is....the acceleration. Its shit slow if you are used to below 10s acceleration.

The worries is future maintenance cost (must use original parts coz not much oem available in future), boxer engine maintenance and fault. The legroom behind is spacious but the higher floor means my knees have to place slightly higher than the seat. It has small boot but better than X50. So its between Cross and XV, the stable ride quality of XV trumped all the crossover at this price range but the its really an old car liao (6-7 years old). They practically facelift until all required gizmo I wanted are in, memory seat, auto-boot, 360 cameras, reverse auto tilt side mirror, the excellent Eyesight (ADAS). Its really a much more complete package vs Cross.

However CRV hits all the mark that I want for a old ppl car aka retirement car. Great exterior looks (all family members like loves the new look), bigger seats, auto seats on passenger lumbar support, huge legroom, memory seats, the rear adjustable seat inclination are 2nd to none, big boot space, high ground clearance (can't match XV 220cm) but at near 200cm, very good liao compared with Cross 168 or something. I live and work in area with some flash flood, that will give more piece of mind. Of course the Civic like front dash is a bonus coz I lke that a lot.

This post has been edited by Cavino: Jan 17 2024, 11:07 AM

Try test drive CRV RS if you can find one and your budget can afford it, then see if that can convince you. I think you have test drive one to get the Hybrid charm, else it is all just talking instant torque, won't feel anything.

Of course, if you drove in highway most of the time, then turbo is no doubt a more viable option. The IMMD that use battery to provide torque during acceleration in highway and switch to engine (without you feeling the switch) also better than turbo at that aspect but you have to test drive to know. CRV might perform differently from Civic in acceleration power, etc, so its all just talk for now. If really have the dough for RS, can give it a try tho...no harm done.

Got not enough dough like me, also can give it a try but better don't coz if you happen to like the ride a lot better than turbo, you will face heartbreak and your opinion towards the turbo spec will go down the drain and you still have to go for the turbo spec...haha..

Right now, I still look see look see, see any issues with current CRV batches. Only worry if wait too long, the prices will goes up again, ST will go up in March and it will affect everything down the road. Interest rate might also goes up but if buy too early, I really don't need the car now, only need them at 3rd quarter of the year.

This post has been edited by Cavino: Jan 17 2024, 10:11 AM

Only briefly test driven the Cross (non hybrid). Nice car. Comfortable. Stable enough. Car small enough for easy handling in town. But the front passenger space a bit too small. And of course hated the foot brake. Didn't sit in the back so don't know.

2 liter still under powered?

AWD probably need to replace all 4 tires, even if only 1 tire damaged. Not going to be cheap.

Actually, you won't feel it's underpower, more like it was designed to accelerate gradually and very smoothly whether you like it or not. The AWD probably contributed on the slower acceleration.

During highway, it's is all well for acceleration but when you need a sudden big boost at higher speed to overtake, the car will be a bit reluctant to move up the speed. That does not mean the car is underpowered for highway, it can handle the acceleration, just no sudden boost up speed type of acceleration. It is very stable on highway run, more so than others, min. body rolls, bumps, Subaru AWD and boxer engine stability handled them all.

Never really bothered about changing the tyres all at once.....until you mentioned it again. Now I have to think if I decided I must have 360 camera for a 170-180k, it is worth it to get V spec with AWD, more petrol consumption AND more future maintenance cost including changing all tyres at once if damaged during their running life. Thats 4 pieces of darn highly costly 18" tyres.

Anyone got update on this :-

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5432722

That is exactly what several Taiwanese reviewers been saying about this Gen 6 CRV. The "power surge" of Gen 5 has disappeared but power is more linear. One reason why I do not want AWD, making it worst.

Ya. I also like the 360 but thinking of changing all 4 tires give me 2nd thought. Money isn't really a problem but the thought of unnecessary waste is a different thing.

Looks like there are several versions of the 1.5T engines. Even Taiwan/Thailand seem to be different to Malaysia's when it comes to rpm


https://hondanews.com/en-US/honda-automobil...er-turbo-engine

after gone thru some youtube regarding honda ehev, im convinced about the tech. however on the other hand, more components means more headache next time, wondering the inverter and the electric motor can tahan how long and what is the cost for replacement

reviewer drive it for a day or a week and only have to care about how the car drives. Whereas you have to live with it for longer time and maintenance etc. So priority is different.

Having gotten my car, the main downside is the road tire noise.

You got the RS?