whoaa.. like that arr...

thank you for the info..

hey , hello guys , i'm currently doing a degree twinning programme with a Uni in Australia , with Taylors. Finishing it soon.. and planning to go NZ for masters... and post graduate... but im pretty confused which uni is alright and all.. was planning to go to Uni of Canterbury?

Anyway i dont have any 'real' working experience yet, and im graduating in a degree in Finance and Marketing

so i would like to do

1) what post gradute , masters programme would be good? and where? i would like to try different stuff but in the same commerce field , prolly logistics or property investment but where?

2) What would i need to do to get PR, or Working permits there? for a proper job . My friend said better apply even before going there.. Im currently in my last semester of my degree so better think and need advise from sifus there:)

Thanks in advance

Start applying for jobs now. Get a job, work a couple of years, qualify for PR...

can I apply for EnE engineer job in NZ using BEng from NOttingham UK ? ...
izzit easy to apply job from Malaysia here ? ....
i dont mind working there to get pr then continue study at there >.<

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Added on August 5, 2008, 9:50 pmAlso, ... what uni are recommended for master in finance in NZ ? ... Might consider taking master in finance after my EnE degree ... and can i take part time postgraduate programme in NZ ? ...


This post has been edited by jasperng: Aug 5 2008, 09:50 PM

better get other countries

anyone knows the cheapest way to transfer a lot of money.. (not that much acutally ) to bolehland??

Hey ya guys, some of you already might know I'll be heading to Auckland this Friday! LOL

Anybody in Auckland?

hmmmmm... NZ.

i still miss Malaysia. A LOT

ya

sad @@ no 1 replying to my question >.<

Maybe because no one knows the answer, and you might like to seek out other sources? There should be a professional body for Engineers in NZ.

check out IPENZ

Wah, haha didnt notice that this thread exist....
@fantagero
I guess the cheapest and safest way is TT

jom minum

Not popular, yes, can you tell me why? Are you saying that Australian education and other country's education outshone NZ's in many ways? If yes, what?

It's not entirely the universities' fault is it? I am currently doing an assignment about international students and NZ education. Based on my observation and research, people tend to go to Australia mainly because NZ is being stereotyped as a boring, dull place and Malaysians, where most of the people are from the city may not like or enjoy the scenic beauty of NZ. But what they do not know is that NZ is far beyond that. Some of my friends chose Perth, Hobart instead of NZ because of that factor too, but how much research have they done? University of Auckland, AUT and Victoria University of Wellington are all located in the central business district, unless you count in postcards and souvenirs, I can hardly find anything that represents NZ's symbol, I had to travel to the local Botanical Garden to look for the NZ ferns.

From what I know, the number of students in a university also affects the ranking of the university in the world. Which is why Lincoln University is perceived as the least popular university in NZ and NZ universities are generally unpopular in the world, not forgetting Otago's ranking to UOA's. The population of NZ is slightly lesser than Singapore's, based on the CIA world fact book, and some of the rumours where I heard about Kiwis rather go to OZ to study is completely unfounded. Kiwis rather go to Auckland than to Australia, most of the Kiwis friends around me told me that only a very very very small portion of people go to Australia to study, mainly because of inevitable factors such as family reasons.

Moreover, Selset Malaysia isn't doing much is it? Just compare both the Selset website and the IDP Malaysia website, which provides more information about education? There were not as many NZ education fairs as their closest neighbour even. And generally speaking, Malaysians are anal when it comes to promoting something new that doesn't appeal to the market.....YET. If you look at all the education agents around the nation, most of them would approach you about studying in Australia and not mention anything about New Zealand. Why don't they try? Because of the mindset that Malaysians will never choose NZ no matter what. What could actually happen if only they try?

I myself may not like New Zealand very much, mainly due to homesick, the weather and the dullness of the country. But so are some of my friends from Melbourne University, Australia. Lifestyle is different from the Caucasians, racism is very bad over there as they say, but I have yet to suffer that much in Wellington where people are generally friendly, drink with you, pat your back, hang out with you, etc. The only thing about them settling better there is because of the number of Malaysian friends they have there, where they share similar lifestyle, similar accent and slang and mentality. Tell me about what the Caucasians do, drink? I do, but not all the time. What if there are no Malaysians or Singaporeans around there, would it be the same? Whereas in New Zealand, other than the JPA students, I have not many Malaysian friends here. I have more Kiwi buddies than my fellow Malaysian mates, where only around 3 of them are from Auckland. I had a good time in Auckland, that's where I realised, by mixing along with the Malaysian friends, you would be less homesick.

Pursuing my degree in Victoria University is one of the best decisions I have made throughout my whole life, I have learnt a lot about the Kiwi culture, their accent, their slang, their lifestyle and not forgetting their mentality. Although there are some discrimination around NZ, but only minimal. I do suffer some racism around my university, but definitely less than when I was in Malaysia. I even got discriminated by some of the Malay students here in Wellington, by saying that Malay is the stronger race and not picking me into the Bersatu Games just because I'm not a Malay. Some of my more Chinaman mentality friends are more critical towards the Kiwi culture, therefore unable to settle here. For example, they cannot accept the fact that the Kiwis here value their family more than the Asians. Fair enough, they don't really fancy any other ethnics other than Chinese and even admitted that they discriminate the Caucasians when they were in Malaysia. Moreover, some people just cannot accept the fact that New Zealanders are generally more open minded and are more willing to learn new things and ideas than the Asians. They too are very diligent and creative when it comes to completing assignment and studies. So where does this education in New Zealand is not as good as other countries come from?

All being said, New Zealand is overall a nice place, where people here value family, friendship, lifestyle and most importantly the environment. I'm surprised at some of the political parties over here, saying that environment is more important than money and development, which explains the reason why some parts of New Zealand is being developed slowly. Just because some people, me included do not fancy staying here long term, doesn't mean that New Zealand is a bad place to study or to stay. Open up your mind and you may like it.

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Added on September 5, 2008, 8:17 amjom rumah putih

This post has been edited by lilredridinghood: Sep 5 2008, 08:17 AM

I think NZ's not so popular cos it's a relatively 'unknown' option. People like to follow the herd, so they go to places like Australia or UK. US is now popular, but once upon a time, few people went there. But that had nothing to do with the quality of American education. Canda's pretty much in the same boat as NZ - both are unknown options.

As for rankings and the like, if you want to go to Uni of Melbourne or NSW, fair enough (though I know plenty who'd argue that Auckland's engineering is the best in Australasia, regardless of rankings). But most Malaysians go to some random 3rd class Aussie uni and then claim that Australia provides 'better' education. Oh well, if they're happy with that, well and good.

if we really want to look at the ranking of unviersities, why look at U of Melbourne or NSW? should look into Berkeley, StdFrd, Ox`Bridge if we really care about the ranking...ppl only remember the 1st, not someone in the middle (if they care about the ranking)...for those who don care about the ranking, no difference between NSW/Melbourne/Auckland/UM

Let's be honest: if we were to limit outselves to the top few, none of us here will be anything.

I think it is the generational mindset. Those in the 50's and the 60's will think of the UK, partially the former British government sent many a Malaysian to train them after independence, but also in that era education in New Zealand wasn't as developed as it is today. Those in the late 60's and 70's might be more familar with Australia, thanks to the Colombo plan. I suppose it's how Malaysian's view the world.

That said, New Zealand is FAR. It literary (in a way) is at the edge of the world. With the exception of probably Hobart, getting to most places in Australia from Malaysia is easier than getting to New Zealand, flight connectivity wise. And 4 million people don't make much noise, compared to 21 million in Australia. But one thing that New Zealand does well is managing their resources, be it natural or human. Case in point: it probably is one of the most cashless societies in the world.

Another thing I like about New Zealand tietary education is that it is simple to understand: the top 4 (Auckland, Wellington, Canterbury, Otago), and the next 4(AUT, Massey, Waikato, Lincoln). Frankly all of them are as good as each other, unlike in Australia where they have the mess called JCU and CQU (or whatever its called these days).

Still, personally, looking at the ranking of a university will be the last factor in deciding which university I go to. There are more important factors like cost, social networks, and air connectivity, amongst other things.

But if Malaysian's want to give NZ a miss, well, what they don't know can't hurt them. At least we get the place to ourselves.

This post has been edited by haya: Sep 7 2008, 04:46 PM

The cheapest way would be cash as you don't pay fees, but that's not practical except for small amounts and you are carrying it yourself, or you have someone to carry for you.

The best way is to use TT or IMT (International money transfer) as some banks call it. You can get a better exchange rate if over a certain amount, so ask at your bank.

Don't send now unless you really have to. The Kiwi dollar exchange rate is very low right now, so keep it in the bank to earn the highest interest rate in the world. Keep an eye on the exchange rate, and send when it is better. But don't wait too long because Bollard may cut interest rates again, which will then affect the exchange rate.