emm..ok. everybody have their own opinions..
yah~ also arabian..in their place..they were like follow all the rules..
wearing purdah and all..but then when they were outside from their country
they just do what they want..also drink a beer..
i saw in front of my eyes, when i was doing my umrah..
in Jeddah airport..these two girls are so sweet and beautiful with their tudung and jubah..
when we arrived in Singapore airport..free hair-skirt-singlet
what happen? im not telling bad things about muslim..don't get me wrong
it happens to other religions too..
evry religions, have their own rules to follow
and it is just the same as others..
it depends, whether they want to obey or break the law..huhu~

Whereas with Muslims, those who don't believe can't just leave. So they're forced to comply and act Islamic while in Saudi etc but the first chance they get, they're off doing whatever they want. So they're not Muslims at heart, but in name only (cos they have no choice about it).

Actually, it depends on how you perceive it. I do think that your office mate is trying very hard to avoid them, which is not necessary, but again, mixing with fellow Malaysians usually means that you won't get the chance to mix with the locals in NZ, which I thought it's extremely sad, but true. I came here with my partner and with no other friends at all, met with a couple of Malaysians here in NZ who are also new to the country, they treat kiwis as pure acquaintance, nothing more...not to mention people from other countries. Yes, you'll feel more comfortable, but what's the point of studying overseas if so?

There's also a general stereotypical mindset that Malaysian Organization or whatever you call them are full of Malays, naive actually to be honest. So what??? Not racism to be honest, but like you said...mixing with your fellow countrymen makes you more comfortable. Utter bull crap if you ask me. My best Malaysian mate is now a Malay girl who shares the same mindset as me. She even told me that Malays think that she's 'Sombong' just because she mixes with people from other ethnic origin. Same goes to me where I join the Americans for occasional Texas Hold'em, Kiwis for touch rugby and basketball...My so-called Malaysian friends start to think that I am a snob for not joining them for clubbing sessions.

Worst of all, just because of a case or two of racist chants from the drunkards on the streets, they started saying bad things about the Kiwis and even proudly mention about how they screwed Caucasians when they were back in Malaysia. There was a day when me and my partner was watching movie in the common room, full of Kiwis, one of them came in and speak Chinese to us in a loud tone. I have no problem with that, but while watching movie? And speaking your native language in a loud manner? Spare some thoughts please.

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Added on March 26, 2008, 8:23 am

erm, just something to add on, I've met with a few Muslims from Oman, Indonesia as well as Pakistan. Even though they pray and do pay attention to some religious views, most of them aren't exactly religious as well. I guess that's why they don't bother to buy meats from halal places. Don't get me wrong, I have absolutely no problem with your religion, I'm just sharing my thoughts.

generally, there are wide variations in muslim practices in different parts of the world, and many muslims from other parts of the world are not as strict as msian muslims......don't flame me, this is a fact, and if you have mixed with a broad spectrum of nationalities, you will agree with me......it's the same for other religions as well........

Ok don't flame me here... this is just my take on it.

The problem here is that it's next to impossible to leave Islam in many countries. If you were Buddhist but no longer subscribe to the beliefs, you can leave Buddhism. If you were Christian and decided it's not for you, you can choose to turn your back on it. So the problem of 'Buddhists' and 'Christians' who do things completely against their religions is not so common, simple because those who don't like it just leave and are no longer associated with it. Same for other religions. I know there are exceptions and cultural 'Buddhists' and 'Christians' (those who profess to be so thanks to family etc without actually practicing it) but it's not so much of an issue.

Whereas with Muslims, those who don't believe can't just leave. So they're forced to comply and act Islamic while in Saudi etc but the first chance they get, they're off doing whatever they want. So they're not Muslims at heart, but in name only (cos they have no choice about it).

word .

btw, some muslim guy converted to christianity in rome on Easter.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080322/lf_af...am_080322230101

emm..ok. everybody have their own opinions..
yah~ also arabian..in their place..they were like follow all the rules..
wearing purdah and all..but then when they were outside from their country
they just do what they want..also drink a beer..
i saw in front of my eyes, when i was doing my umrah..
in Jeddah airport..these two girls are so sweet and beautiful with their tudung and jubah..
when we arrived in Singapore airport..free hair-skirt-singlet
what happen? im not telling bad things about muslim..don't get me wrong
it happens to other religions too..
evry religions, have their own rules to follow
and it is just the same as others..
it depends, whether they want to obey or break the law..huhu~

well. about that.. i don't think it's proper to discuss that here.. this topic already got in RWI.
so.. i dont want to elaborate more on that.. and so do to the other forumer .. bcoz it's gonna be a long loooooooooooooooooon    discussion..

why u always wrote word eyh? what does that mean?? 

until now you still cannot find your fave brand?? uuuu...
what's wrong with deodarant? i bought about two of my deodarant..lol
and that 'girl's monthly white thing'..i bought it a load..dont worry..
i have some perencah..new set of stationery..tooth brush..and bla bla
any special requests?

yup! my parents wil accompany me..so i can bring more than 20kg..haha! my bag is like so big you know..
until my dad said.."put your house in that bag too.." haha!

after i asked everyody about the windbreaker and sweater thing..they said that better buy it in Msia rather than NZ bcoz it is more cheaper..
but when i watched video of my college..
all the 'mat salleh' like wearing t-shirt, singlet..
so i was thinking, people in NZ will be so relax with their weather and all..while im wearing a windbreaker like a snowman!! 

hey, how long have you been there?

all the 'mat salleh' like wearing t-shirt, singlet..
so i was thinking, people in NZ will be so relax with their weather and all..while im wearing a windbreaker like a

until now you still cannot find your fave brand?? uuuu...
what's wrong with deodarant? i bought about two of my deodarant..lol
and that 'girl's monthly white thing'..i bought it a load..dont worry..
i have some perencah..new set of stationery..tooth brush..and bla bla
any special requests?

yup! my parents wil accompany me..so i can bring more than 20kg..haha! my bag is like so big you know..
until my dad said.."put your house in that bag too.." haha!

after i asked everyody about the windbreaker and sweater thing..they said that better buy it in Msia rather than NZ bcoz it is more cheaper..
but when i watched video of my college..
all the 'mat salleh' like wearing t-shirt, singlet..
so i was thinking, people in NZ will be so relax with their weather and all..while im wearing a windbreaker like a snowman!! 

hey, how long have you been there?

yup, buy clothing in malaysia, better, cheaper...

huhuh
got party at the common room.. $5, drink all u can..

btw.. depends la. if u wanna feel the shopping here.. but half there in malaysia just in case if u cant stand the cold..

btw.. why some barefoot eyh?? i heard malaysian singer, elyana also barefoot in msia.. is it some kind of reflexsologi..

ehm.. idk.. why many shoes here, sometime i feel the quality the same with "UPtown" in msia..

edlina.. better buy many shoes.. hahhaa since u got ur parent accompany u together.. man.. i feel like wanna sumbat many stuff last time..

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Added on March 28, 2008, 4:28 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmFvS-_bYNo << my friends in massey.. sorry for the annoying commentator.. hahaa

they holiday already...
my friend said he went here
http://www.agrodome.co.nz/

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Added on March 28, 2008, 5:48 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3Oa_6kVokc update link,,