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post Aug 14 2007, 11:38 PM

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why aren't they called "Flying Fox" , same ?

Flying Fox's are a large fruit eating bat - they are both mammals but different families - gliders are marsupials & FF's give birth to a fully developed young ( still need mummy though ) FF's fly whilst gliders use a membrane to glide from one tree to another
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HAhah... I was just about to say Flying Fox is a giant bat.

Starting with a joey is the best, doesn't matter male or female. But do not get a joey that is too young, death or sickness is possible. Start with 1, after 2 to 3 months, get another. If you get 2 at once, harder to bond properly.

You can bring them anywhere but never never let it roam freely in a car or room or in a strange place when it is not bonded to you. You may end up crying later. Just get a bonding pouch and keep the joey inside during the day and then socialize with it at night. You would also need proper nutrition for the joey as well.

You would need a large cage, read the 1st page and do more research on this.

Yes, young joeys can easily get stress with strange people... but bonded joeys and bonded gliders are ok with socializing with others.
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QUOTE(vckc4ever @ Aug 14 2007, 10:59 PM)
I'm new to this Sugar Glider...soo cute and even cuter...er, why aren't they called "Flying Fox" , same ?

1. if i get a baby, which is a better choice to get, a male o female ? better for me to get only 1 ? or a pair is better ?
2. is it advisable for me to bring along inside a car, when i'm on the move ? will it run around ? or should be in a cage ?
3. if i bring it out, will it get stressed if exposed to a lot of people ?

or any good advice you can give for a beginner like me ?
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Yes, they are cute, but keeping them is not easy I must say, needs a lot of patience and dedication.

If you refer to any good breeder, they will tell you the same, keeping a glider needs a lot work.

Flying fox and sugar glider are two totally different species, that's why a sugar glider is a sugar glider and a flying fox is a flying fox. You can Wiki 'em up for more info.

As for your Q's,
1) Male or female doesn't matter, when bonded, both are equally great companion. If you have lotsa time, 1 is fine. But if you don't and if you think long term, 2 is best. Same sex is best.

2) You can bring them anywhere you go provided you have the right carrying pouch. Do not let them free in your car when you are on the move, it is very risky and might cause hurt to you glider.

3) If it's too young, it can be stressful. But as they grow up and bond well, it is not a problem at all.

Advice? 1st page and more research, then only ask if you don't understand.

Good luck!

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QUOTE(vckc4ever @ Aug 14 2007, 10:59 PM)

1. if i get a baby, which is a better choice to get, a male o female ? better for me to get only 1 ? or a pair is better ?
2. is it advisable for me to bring along inside a car, when i'm on the move ? will it run around ? or should be in a cage ?
3. if i bring it out, will it get stressed if exposed to a lot of people ?

or any good advice you can give for a beginner like me ?

by the way, where can i get or find ??

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1. as a personal experience, i feel that males and females behave more or less the same as humans...masculine and feminine...whether to get 1 or 2 depends on the time u could spare for them...a lonely glider could die from loneliness due to stress...whereas a pair would be better(companionship)...now,for a pair it's ok to have both the same sex...if not, make sure they r not siblings(in-breeding could result in deformation of joeys)...correct me if i'm wrong...

2. i would advice not unless they are captivated in a cage or pouch.reasons can be many(eg. distract ur driving, emergency brake could toss them around or get tossed by objects )

3. i would suggest u to do so when they are more mature...then they would be more friendly towards other people...this is all down to conditioning...if they are used to crowd then it's ok...otherwise better not...

it is always best to do a thorough research on them...the first page helps alot though....

currently there's only 1 place in mind that i know...SS19 Subang Jaya....

good luck!
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QUOTE(anchoviez @ Aug 15 2007, 02:00 PM)
1. as a personal experience, i feel that males and females behave more or less the same as humans...masculine and feminine...whether to get 1 or 2 depends on the time u could spare for them...a lonely glider could die from loneliness due to stress...whereas a pair would be better(companionship)...now,for a pair it's ok to have both the same sex...if not, make sure they r not siblings(in-breeding could result in deformation of joeys)...correct me if i'm wrong...

2. i would advice not unless they are captivated in a cage or pouch.reasons can be many(eg. distract ur driving, emergency brake could toss them around or get tossed by objects )

3. i would suggest u to do so when they are more mature...then they would be more friendly towards other people...this is all down to conditioning...if they are used to crowd then it's ok...otherwise better not...

it is always best to do a thorough research on them...the first page helps alot though....

currently there's only 1 place in mind that i know...SS19 Subang Jaya....

good luck!
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Guys,

thanks a lot for the advice. although i have not had any SG before, I really appreciate it as I intend to buy one for a start. I think I go for a male first.

Page 1 is surely helpful..im going thru it and of course with the extra info wud be great..

anchoviez, where in SS19 Subang Jaya ? can you guide me..i wanna go and have a look there ?

Thanks a lot...


Cheers !
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post Aug 15 2007, 06:43 PM

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THANKS Hun..finally get SG smile.gif so cute ahaha.. ( aiyaa i blk rumah sesat lo.. tk pnah gi kl sentral drive haha ) hehe..btw she didnt want to go outside the porch..aiya..tk kenal i lg kot..garang la sad.gif
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QUOTE(vckc4ever @ Aug 15 2007, 05:43 PM)

anchoviez, where in SS19 Subang Jaya ? can you guide me..i wanna go and have a look there ?

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Natural Aquatic World
No 17, Jalan SS19/6 Subang Jaya,
47500 Selangor D.E
Tel : 03-56331368

http://www.naturalaqua.com/contactus.html

hope this helps..=)

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hohoho, got my suggie at last!
She also the same, dont want to come out from the pouch.
Dont know how2feed her also.
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two new snuggie owners just like that LOL ^^

I'm happy for you guys!
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QUOTE(anchoviez @ Aug 14 2007, 05:54 PM)
initially i have 3 gliders(a pair and thier son)...all are very tame and can be handheld except the dominant father...very ferocious...it bites...tried to bond with him but in the end i gave up....so as it goes along the pair had given birth 5 times so far:-

1st - one male
2nd - one male, one female
3rd - 2 males
4th - 2 females
5th - 2 joeys but still in pouch(about 2 weeks old)

talking about bonding...it's easy when their still young...i handheld them when they just OOP for few minutes for them to get used to my scent....do tat everyday(preferably in the night when the mom leaves them behind to feed)....this is so to prevent from interrupting when the joeys are weaning....
oops...sorry...it will nv happen again...
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how do u know they`re 2 weeks old?can see the joeys when they`re in the pouch?

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post Aug 15 2007, 09:19 PM

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yeah..finally become "friend" haha..already feed with milk..aiya..sgt lapar lor..sian sad.gif hehe..


Added on August 15, 2007, 10:18 pmeh btw.. susu + mixed fruit HALAL right ? tongue.gif

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Hahaha... food is halal lah LOL

Anyway, your joeys, you need to take time. Now of course takut lah, dunno you guys that much. Slowly intro your hand and feed. You can use a spoon or syringe. Make sure the milk is warm. You can warm it over a fire or candle light hahaah.... candle slower but better. As in place the bowl with the milk on top of a tea light... or anything lah, as long not microwave.

Happy to see them go to good homes. Hope you guys can update pictures on and off lah hahaha.
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haha..basicly the milk from what ? susu tepung ke? cow? huhu..yap..i buat taktahu saje biar dia gigit..finally she recognize me tongue.gif


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The milk is from cow but it has lactase enqyme, making it tolerable for animals that are sensitive to lactose. Safe wan lah hahahah.

Spend lots of time with her, soon she will be bonded and will want you always heheheh.
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QUOTE(hackerzx @ Aug 15 2007, 07:43 PM)
THANKS Hun..finally get SG smile.gif so cute ahaha.. hehe..btw she didnt want to go outside the porch..aiya..tk kenal i lg kot..garang la sad.gif
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Congrats ! she didnt know u yet maa . my 2nd glider still crabby sumtimes especially when i kacau her tido . haha


QUOTE(anchoviez @ Aug 15 2007, 08:15 PM)
hm...

    Natural Aquatic World
      No 17, Jalan SS19/6 Subang Jaya,
    47500 Selangor D.E
    Tel : 03-56331368
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what ? NAW sells glider also ?

QUOTE(carenys55 @ Aug 15 2007, 08:48 PM)
hohoho, got my suggie at last!
She also the same, dont want to come out from the pouch.
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Congrats ! aiyah . first day maa. ofcoz la . tell u what. i notice that female sugar glider owner bond faster. dunno why . hmm.gif
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QUOTE(anchoviez @ Aug 15 2007, 07:15 PM)
hm...

     Natural Aquatic World
      No 17, Jalan SS19/6 Subang Jaya,
     47500 Selangor D.E
     Tel : 03-56331368

http://www.naturalaqua.com/contactus.html

hope this helps..=)
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Thanks a lot !!


Definately help...


Cheers + arigato

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Added on August 16, 2007, 12:06 am
QUOTE(anchoviez @ Aug 15 2007, 07:15 PM)
hm...

    Natural Aquatic World
      No 17, Jalan SS19/6 Subang Jaya,
    47500 Selangor D.E
    Tel : 03-56331368

http://www.naturalaqua.com/contactus.html

hope this helps..=)
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Thanks a lot !!


Definately help...


Cheers + arigato

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Dont get mad with what I am going to tell you. Safari is getting one batch of SG (all male) in by today. For I know is that the one that I saw and you saw has all been sold out except for one. This is worst.... More suggies in a little cage. But the good thing is that at least the storekeeper plays with them.... (They have to) apparently people who wants  to wants to buy SG wants to have a tame SG.... That is why there is still one of the female (that bite my finger) is not sold...

i was kinda upset yesterday. But is not the storekeeper's fault. One lady had bought a Sugar Glider 2 days ago from Safari. She told the storekeeper to keep it for her first until 2 weeks later only she will collect due to her wanting to shift house. The storekeeper has told her to buy another SG instead of this one when she finish shifting her house, but she dont care and insist that she wants the SG she bought. And due to policy wise, they have to separate the SG because it has belong to that lady. According to the storekeeper, the SG is getting weaker, and they have try to spend their time playing with the SG, but seems like she is missing her partner which she has been with before she was sold. I just hope that she will be ok and dont fall sick. I still cant get this incident out of my mind. I just wonder whether she knows what she is doing, even after the storekeeper has advise her.

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wow.. so sad sad.gif
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QUOTE(tleilaxu @ Aug 15 2007, 09:11 PM)
how do u know they`re 2 weeks old?can see the joeys when they`re in the pouch?
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o0o that's easy...because i keep track of them in a logbook...i'll note down the date n time when a mating is sighted...then from there i'll estimate the time of birth which is 16 days later...in that period i'll observe the female closely for any signs...then i'll start counting thereon...everything is just approximation....unless u're lucky enough to witness the birth of the joey which normally occurs during the very early hours of the morning 5am onwards before sunrise....in my case, i'm not that lucky...

no i don c any joeys in the pouch but i can c a small lump on the pouch...then i'm gonna tell u sumthing which is not recommended to b done unless u're very experienced...i'd feel the pouch to check...i do tat everynight to check for progress...
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Gosh.... that's really sad.... the poor joeys at Pet Safari...

anchoviez
No pics ah? Yah, normally their pouches will bulge, I saw 2 gliders with joeys before at different times... I even got to feel one hahaha but this I made sure that the glider is tame, not stress and didn't try to attack me.

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