May 22 2007, 09:08 PM
Anyway, last say from me. The diets that you quoted are used by zoos or big time breeders who must find a way to give a high protein diet without the need of a mix. So they get the protein from the dogfood or kittenfood.
It is possible to give dogfood or catfood but only 2 brands that are suitable, which is Orijen or Innova Evo, which I don't think you can get in Malacca since it is one of the high end expensive dogfood and catfood. but the kibble should never be given more than 2 pieces. Why? Gliders teeth are not like rats..... their teeth is built by nature to chew bark and eat sweet sap. And why I mention those 2 brands? Coz they are softer than normal dogfood but I can easily say, gliders do not like the smell of the Innova Evo or Orijen. So conclusion, no dogfood for them. Why we are all saying to get a decent mix is coz the mix is the best substitute to tree sap.
Commercial breeders in Malaysia have a very basic diet that can cause a lot of damage to the health of the gliders but it saves cost for them and saves time. Suppliers only feed their gliders dogfood, apples, sunflower seeds.... only some will go to the extent of boiling eggs for them and mealworms. This indeed will produce fat gliders but not healthy ones..... so that is why most commercial breeders will say dogfood and apples.
Another note. Grapes and apples and pears, all seeds should be taken out.
The 1st page is already a good basic guide. Following what can be given and what to avoid is good enough already.
About the mix.... it cannot last long without a fridge, it will go sour in half a day. So if you are thinking to make it daily, then it will be a slight waste for you but if you got no choice, then just do it.
I won't share my recipe but I will give you a guide of what can be used.
Nestle baby cereal, Only the Wheat and Honey can be used.
Heinz babyfood is better than Gerber babyfood
Oatbran and wheatgerm
Hardboiled egg
Joeys should not be given honey since some joeys are allergic and can get diarrhea after eating alot of honey.
As for the calcium powder, only Repti Cal can be used. I don't trust commercial breeders or suppliers coz what they use like the diet and nutrition is quite wrong so what they give can cause harm. You may not see the effects in a few years but the glider may not live up to 15 years.... maybe 6 years then up to heaven.
I will clean the thread a bit but will leave some of the informative postings. The lesson is researching fully first, if something is not right then only ask. Not every breeder knows what is good since commercial or supplier breeders do not follow through with glider nutrition from proper websites. Even me, the recipe for the glider mix did not fall from the sky. It took a lot of research till the correct mix is achieved.
Added on May 22, 2007, 9:17 pm
QUOTE(JonYeap @ May 22 2007, 07:47 PM)
i still have the innova cat food u gave to me. left around 1 container of tau fu fa. and the inova kitten one. well, not planning to feed them coz later get flamed. errr... i know canned food are a no no to them. according to a website, gerber baby food has high protein and also recommended. but i not sure now, guess its not in the 1st page, its a no no again rite.
Gerber babyfood... let me list down what it contains.... then you will only get the picture since Gerber babyfood in Malaysia is different from overseas since not all of Gerber products are Halal.Gerber 2nd foods, Pear flavor as example:
Fat= 0g
Fiber= 2g
Sodium= 5mg
Sugar= 13g (more sugar than in 1 can of cocacola)
Potassium= 140g
Carb= 20g
Protein = 1g(is this high in protein?)
No Vitamin A
45% Vitamin C
0% calcium
0% Iron
The high protein is Gerber Chicken babyfood but it is non-Halal so Malaysia doesn't sell it. It is not pork, just that they chicken used is not slaughtered in the proper way, that is why it is not imported here.
This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: May 22 2007, 09:17 PM
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You see, on top of the cage is my smelly shirt, so I always put the bonding pouch on top of the shirt, even with Iggy. It has always been fine with Iggy, however, I didn't quite know yet that Luna likes to put her little arm out and try to grab things... So right before I went to sleep, Luna was making a lot of noise by jumping here and there in the cage, when I approached, I noticed that she had actually got herself caught in the bonding pouch's string... Goodness, it was already twisted and tangled due to her jumping around. I quickly try to grab her to release the string, she crabbed and started biting my hand, had to bear with it while telling her that I was just trying to help. She finally calm down and I managed to free her. Then she sat quietly at the bottom of the cage. I slowly stroke her and massage the are where the string was caught, she relaxed a bit and looked pretty scared. A few minutes later she was up and jumping again. Pheww, I was scared she injured her leg. So people, don't go hanging or placing the bonding pouch within your suggies reach, you'll never know what they'll do...
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