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post May 17 2007, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(kubiz @ May 17 2007, 10:26 AM)
A one-cup serving of watermelon will provide around 48 calories. Watermelon is an excellent source of vitamin C and vitamin A, with one serving containing 14.59 mg of vitamin C and 556.32 IU of vitamin A. Watermelon also provides significant amounts of vitamin B6 and vitamin B1, as well as the minerals potassium and magnesium.
(wikipedia-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watermelon)

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It is not junkfood to us but junkfood to glider.... coz it won't fill up their tummies with enough fiber but more on water only.... this is why I said we should not give so much. Did I say don't give at all?

Gliders have small stomachs and you want the glider to get as much fiber and carbs into their body coz they burn carbs easily... but the high water content in watermelon will just make them feel full coz of the water. So feed other types of fruits as well.

A glider should have a variety of fruits and vegies in their diet. Sun Melon and Honey Dew are great, as well as pear, apple, dragon fruit, blue berries, water apples, guava, papaya, banana, chestnuts, carrots, strawberries, mango and the list goes on... There has been cases where some people only feed apples and dogfood.... this lead to poor health and glider death.... so a glider cannot have too much of one thing, must have a varied diet.

Fruit juices are excellent treats.... Just Juice, Marigold and brands that have no preservatives and added sugar. Natural fruit juices are great but good as treats. Freezing juice using the ice tray and placing a piece of fruit in it to freeze up makes a fruit Popsicle for gliders.
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post May 17 2007, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Sugre @ May 17 2007, 11:32 AM)
Must we pull out the crickets' hind legs first before feeding the crickets to the suggies? I read an article some where that said the hind legs have thorny edges and it should be removed first. Thats pretty gross...
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Not necessary.... my Kiah likes the legs.... to her it is like eating chicken drumsticks.... damn cute the way she eats it. Chew chew chew.... but if you feel that it could cause some eating difficulties, you can use a pair of scissors and cut them off.
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post May 17 2007, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(kweekit @ May 17 2007, 02:47 PM)
i need desperate help here...my gliders..their tail..the fur shed came of...now like the tail gonna go botak...n the male his belly got no more fur..i dunno wat is going on but pls help urgent!!!
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Anything serious, no point you ask for help here for we are not vets or certified people to treat your glider. A vet would know best.


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post May 17 2007, 03:39 PM

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Freezing crickets is 1 method.... but make sure you gutload the crickets first.

Erm, baking, I haven't really tried it myself.... since no crickets yet hahah... but to bake, Reanne said that must put on low heat and bake for.... erm, can't remember how long, 1 to 2 hours I think.... This one really must ask her hahahah.

If you bake it, you can keep it in the fridge or put in a container with a small pack of silicon gel to absorb the moisture. I think can keep a few weeks to a month....
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ May 17 2007, 03:47 PM)
How long do I gut load them before putting in the fridge?

Normal fridge or freezer?

Wahh, bake like 1-2 hours? So long... Mine is the small toaster oven only, it doesn't have high or low setting just minutes. On 5 minutes can hangus a roti wor tongue.gif

Reanne, how? Or your Crispy Toasted Cricket is in production already, haha tongue.gif

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Gutloading takes 24 hours.... once you buy crickets, feed them vegies and dried dogfood or catfood. Then after 24 hours, put in freezer for 20 minutes to make them sleep....

Reanne told me that if the heat too high, the crickets will catch fire hahahah.... That's why i dare not try yet with my toaster oven loh... later catch fire, then it will be the same thing all over again for me, jump around with a cup of water LOL...

Maybe for now you just freeze them in the freezer, and when Iggy wants to eat, just take a few, thaw it a bit then serve heheheh..

Erm, we cannot fry the crickets due to the oil is bad for gliders..... common sense.
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QUOTE(Reanne @ May 17 2007, 05:53 PM)
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Won't catch fire la. I said scorch, as in turn black as it gets burnt by the heat.

Dry Frying is a no no as we cant really control the heat and will most probably burn the crickets. I'm not sure about deep frying, but then again, we wouldn't want oil into our pets' diets.
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Oh... well, your over will scorch them.... but I think my oven would catch fire like it did with a garlic hahahah.....

My dad went to China, ate some kind of fried worms.... he said taste like french fries hahah.....
If we fry the crickets for ourselves should be ok since we can tolerate a bit of oil but gliders cannot have too much fat in their diet.
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post May 17 2007, 06:28 PM

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Mealworm can die in 1 or 2 days? I can keep mealworms for 2 months hahahah.... only a few die but majority become pupa and change into beetles.
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QUOTE(kweekit @ May 17 2007, 11:55 PM)
hhhhmmm i dunno i have been feeding them some chiken n carrots n apple...with some baby cereal...aihz..worried alot...havent fed them egg yet...should i feed them raw egg with the yoke or wat??
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That's all? That is a poor diet.... they need variety. Also raw egg is dangerous.... only cooked egg... 1st page already got a long list on food suitable for gliders.
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post May 18 2007, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(kweekit @ May 18 2007, 11:11 AM)
i just realized one thing.....i think it's also due to my roomate smoking in my room...cn u all post some non-smoking stuff here so he doesnt smoke in the room???..thanks ...yeah i bought all the stuff...n started feeding them...thhey dun like crickets though...but i dunno where cn i get wheat germs....anyways thanks for advice...
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Smoking could cause stress as it is natural for animals to run away from smoke(signs of fire).

What stuff have you bought? Gliders don't simply eat wheat germ like that you know...

QUOTE(cheaka @ May 18 2007, 11:20 AM)
Yeah...male's pee smell ... definitely you want to wash it off as soon as they do that....

As for your cage to be smelly...if you have males...then no choice..you have to bare with it...as soon as you clean the cage...they will place their smell back to the cage as what they want...it is like marking their territory...therefore i give up sometimes..and just got use with it.....as i have 2 males in my cage...which means the smell is 2xtimes.... doh.gif

not too sure about tent time as i let my gliders roam around my living room.....
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Wahh doh.gif I'm gonna get a male.... die lo... must go buy air freshener every week hhahha...

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post May 18 2007, 11:52 AM

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Ohh... but I guess I also need to get air freshener since I'm keeping in my room...

2 days ago, Kiah very naughty.... she went out of my room, went into the bathroom to play. Knocked down shampoo bottles and sponges to the floor.... and I think she jumped into the toilet bowl.... thank goodness she jumped out but she left the staircase wet.... then she went down stairs to hide behind the sofa....

Icky girl, had to bath and shampoo her... now she is nice and clean. And still as naughty as ever. Last night she slept in my pants leg while I was asleep... so geli coz of her claws.... woke me up in the middle of the night to dig her out hahahah.
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post May 18 2007, 02:56 PM

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Hahah... you really want to bath your suggies? Well.... got technique.... you must let someone else bath so they don't have you but hate the person who bath them hahahah.... but my Kiah used to it already since I bath her when she was younger...

I don't encourage you guys trying to bath SG on your own... a bit risky also if you dunno how to do it fast. If you guys want me to bath SG, must come loh to my place, I can help you guys do a bit of grooming heheheh....
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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ May 18 2007, 02:58 PM)
Sugar gliders CANNOT be bathe simply. They cannot stand water.

Please do NOT do it if you don't know. (That's why I ask Hun notworthy.gif )

Bathing also applies for extreme smelly cases only wink.gif

For normal smelly cases, just use a baby wipe and give them a good wipe all over icon_rolleyes.gif

CFP, cut nail easy lar, do it when he's sleeping. You have to learn to do it, cuz for me, nail trimming needs to be done atleast once a week - two weeks.

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Bathing a glider has to be done very fast and smoothly. Summore water cannot kena the ears and head.... and with untame gliders, you will get injured with lots of nasty scratches and bites.... I kena before sweat.gif

If the glider is not too smelly, can always rub out the smell by applying baby powder and gently massage it into the fur. Pureen or Johnson is good...

QUOTE(cheaka @ May 18 2007, 03:03 PM)
I have been having trouble to cut their nails too....looking to get those net pouches....so can trap them in and slowly cut their nails..... doh.gif
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Hhaha... fishing net? LOL.
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QUOTE(hamster9 @ May 19 2007, 12:40 AM)
it's really smelly  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif 

take example of my chiwek  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif  laugh.gif

hrmm..u can't put them to deep sleep?
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your Chiwek so naughty... do scent mark me... like I become his property LOL... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Vio @ May 19 2007, 09:44 AM)
wah they will even wake up suddenly n even worst have nightmares  rclxms.gif dunno what they are dreaming of. btw using baby powders won't poison them when they lick it or either get their eyes n even worse into their ears?? hmm.gif
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If baby powder is poison, then no one would use it on babies rite? Talcum body powder for us is dangerous but powder meant for babies is safer. If you fear baby powder can cause problems, you can purchase small animal dry shampoo, which is similar but made out of corn starch powder.

And the powder is mean for their fur, not their eyes and ears lah.
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QUOTE(snowcandy @ May 19 2007, 04:56 PM)
I gave Shurie some watermelon last night and today, her poo was red in colour. Is it because of the watermelon or there's something wrong with her?  shocking.gif
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It is the watermelon. Normal lah. If you give only Papaya, same effects....
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Then if you are afraid, do not do loh. Simple.
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QUOTE(suiteng @ May 20 2007, 02:14 PM)
Argh... so cute~ My Sasa seems like have a big bulge on the tummy for a long time. Pretend pregnant ka? Hmm.. I poke poke no lumps geh.. or maybe she's just fat sweat.gif
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Hahaha... How long liao? Maybe fat loh.... or who knows, a surprise for you later heheheh.

QUOTE(cheaka @ May 20 2007, 04:42 PM)
snowcandy: your shurie so cute.....hiding inside the cd pouch.... thumbup.gif

watermelon: poo poo red
papaya: poo poo orange
grapes: poo poo dark black
cricket/worms: smellier glider  hmm.gif
apple: pee smell of rotten apple but apple juice help with their pee problem

that's what i noticed
Got some new hiding place for Eowyn since she loves to hide at my husband's guitar if she is roaming around my living room.

Now she has her new place to hide....i miss the shot where she look through the small hole.....but this one looks like she is inviting someone to her new house.... doh.gif
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Wow, cute ler. That face poking out hahahha.... I don't like feeding papaya coz the poo really smells like rotten papaya.... but no choice, must feed LOL.

QUOTE(snowcandy @ May 20 2007, 07:42 PM)
Thanks! Hehe. Her tail wasn't this fluffy when I got her.
Two weeks later and this is the result of her tail. sweat.gif

Perhaps it might have something to do with Hun's mix? tongue.gif
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Wah, indirectly promoting my mix hahaha.


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QUOTE(krynzpeaches @ May 21 2007, 10:20 AM)
Hmm, I have a feeling a suggie that is raised well from a joey will have fluffier tails. But if you get an adult like mine, even tho it will get fluffy, but not as much already... hmm.gif

Cheaka, I never give my suggie grapes cuz there is an uncertain thing in it that is not really good for a suggie. If not mistaken it will effect their kidney in the long run. Altho they really like it, we shouldn't be giving it to them, just like corn too.

Hun, on the first night I've set up Luna's cage with Litter Star and all, altho I have the wire floor to seperate it, she puts her hand thru the bars, grab some and started chewing on it shocking.gif It really freaked me out... Will it be harmful to them? They don't really eat it right? They just chew it off right?

I slept near her cage that night so that everytime I hear the beads being scooped up by her little hands, I wake up, go to her cage and say "NO LUNA"... She'll quickly shake it off and run away... She's still doing it once in a while shakehead.gif I checked the Litter Star packaging looking for it to say it's harmful or anything, none, but it does say it's non-toxic... How?

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The seeds of the grapes is toxic... I only give grapes once in a blue moon hahah.... really really long... anyway Kiah don't really like grapes that much.

She likes blueberries.... I like blueberries too!!!

I'll be introducing a new mix called Strawberry Swirl.... hahahah.... just stay tune later lah.

About the Litter Star breeds.... hmmm.... I'm not sure if they are harmful when swallowed.... she most likely is chewing them. I suggest you put another layer of mesh... like the fine wire mesh on top of the litter star.... hardware store got sell the fine wire mesh.... I guess Luna is just being curious since everything is new to her.

Have you started pouch bonding with her?

Hehehe... you name your gliders after cat characters.... I'm naming mine using Aboriginal names.... Now I got Kiah, meaning "From the beautiful place". As for my future glider, I wanna name him Jarrah, meaning "Eucalyptus tree"... but if he has a certain character or personality, I may change the name into some other meaning heheheh....


Added on May 21, 2007, 8:49 pm
QUOTE(Reanne @ May 21 2007, 07:53 PM)
Miko had an adventure last night. She was playing in the dining room, me and Ben were not more than 10 feet away, then she disappeared!

Waah, looked high and low, up curtains and outside the house. Finally thought maybe she found a way to squeeze out through one of the closed windows.

Looked for quite a long time, then when I went upstairs, she was at the grill outside the upstairs window! Poking her nose to find a way in through the mesh.

She must have gotten out from the dining room window, climbed the roof and tried to come in through the upstair living room window.

Opened the mesh and she hopped onto my arm, leaving dirty footprints with her dirty feet on my arm.

Goodness, she gave us quite a scare O.o
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Your Miko is naughtier than Kiah tongue.gif

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QUOTE(hamster9 @ May 21 2007, 08:53 PM)
blink.gif  I tot Kiah comes from a Hokkien word as in "Let's Go"  laugh.gif
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Hahah... no ler.... maybe it does sound like the Hokkien word heheheh....

So whole time you thought I name Kiah as "Let's Go"? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ May 21 2007, 09:30 PM)
anyone got name suggestion for a male glider? hmmm... got it today, and still crabs a lot. kinda scared, but its with another mate now, they get along ASAP we put them together. less than 10 min, mine and kubiz glider sleep in the same coconut, making out with each other. haha... oh by the way, both of them are males. haha... very g@y. well, wanna ask wat type of baby food is good for them and also wat type of dog food should i use. should i use the solid or liquid form?

oh, if u ask me to search for the 1st page, i already did read it and reading it now, but cant seem to see any baby or dog food written. but the guy i got from feed them with these.he uses baby food by the brand gerbes. i dont have any fridge to store this, so i'm looking for a solid or powder form of baby food which i can feed, or dog food? hope some of u can enlighten me on this. will ask him personally if i dont get aid from here. thanks again.
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Why we never list dog food or cat food is because it is dangerous for them to eat. Don't you know that it can cause a disorder known as Lumpy Jaw? It is a painful mouth infection. You can still feed but it must be soaked in water but when it is wet, the taste is not palatable for gliders so many would not touch it.

Baby food, it is not that good as well. You should not use as a staple since it has not much nutritional value... it consist mostly of Vit C, a bit of fiber and carbs.... that's it. The powdered form has no taste so gliders won't readily eat it. Breeders will tell you that because they think it is ok but they never research properly on the proper diet. If you do need to make something, Google Leadbeater's Mix.... please just Google sugar glider diet.

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