Wah, today KP do all the explaining heheheh....

Many have asked me "Don't the glider suffocate when placed in a bag or pouch? Don't you feel geli when it is inside your shirt?" Hahaha.... gliders love dark, small and cozy places. Kiah can fit into many funny funny places and just sleep there.

Snow, gliders like to change sleeping spots if they got the option. CFP, remember you sold me the Flexarium rite? The box that the Flexarium came in is long and narrow, Kiah slept in there for a few weeks... funny.... Then it was her sleeping box in her cage later... now back to my jeans.... I think Kiah likes to swap here and there, depending on her mood LOL.

Yups KP, you were holding Shadow. Jarrah is more active and slippery to handle hahah.... Jarrah likes to climb out of my hand very fast. Both also won't bite and won't crab when you handle them but they will always crab when see your hand hahaha... funny funny boys. Kiah still ignoring their presence. Dunno when she will bond with Jarrah... anyway, I need to bond with Jarrah first.

I realize Shadow likes to jump away a bit. So Snow, just becareful not to let him jump off you hahahh.... coz he did jump off KP. Jarrah will climb onto my head and when I try to grab him, climb somewhere behind me and then it is up and down for me LOL.

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Added on June 19, 2007, 9:34 pmyeah . i get that alot too . and i agree with that . my chika like to hide inside a broken VCR. plenty of the inside are taken off for the parts so got plenty of space .


LOL ..

Edited: sorry, but previous post was bout sales.

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Jun 19 2007, 10:27 PM

Shurie's favorite hiding spot is in the middle of my pile of clothes.
Before that it used to be her little coconut.

And sure, btw Hun, could you let me know an exact time to meet? Might grab lunch first before going to SP.

sure u cannot sleep tonight . hahaha

Oh, I'll be at SP around 1 plus lah... just call me. Before that I'll be at Pet Shack. I won't have credit to call you so better you call me heheheh.

now .. snow edi got shadow .. hun edi got jarrah .. hope can see them again .. eh wait . i didnt see jarrah .. :sigh:

Haha, all got new suggie

Hows Shadow and Jarrah doing? I think I'm in love with lil' joeys

Last night let Iggy roam around my apt. He so happy ler, jump here and there, but Luna just stayed in the pouch. When I took her out and put on my lap, she just stoned like that till I put her back in the pouch After playtime, as usual, stretched my arm to Iggy and he hopped right on and we went back to the cage Sighh, wish Luna could be like Iggy So I end up with two totally different personality gliders

Today, both of them with me at work. Both also want to sleep only, don't want to play around

Ohh, anyone went to PS and grab Exo Terra stuff on sale? Does anyone know until when the sale is on? Need to get something, but dunno when can make it to PS... Soonest might be end of the month


KP

Hello Everyone
I am doing some reaearch on gliders before I get some & would appreciate it if someone could answer the following for me.
The (3) books I have got list the common fruit & vegies that are the norm for western countries. What I would like to know if ALL the fruit & vegies available in Thailand ( & Malaysia ) are suitable for gliders eg: Rambutan;Lychees;Sala;Rose Apple etc
Many thanks

Hello

Finally you are here

Rose apples are called water apples also right? In malay, Jambu Air. This fruit is high in Vit A, Vit C and calcium and potassium. Rambutans are high in potassium, the phosphorus percentage is higher than calcium but the fruit is high in Vit C and sugars. We should feed more calcium supplements when feeding rambutans to balance out the phosphorus ratio I think. Lychee is similar to the rambutan.

I know my glider don't really fancy rambutan.... never tried lychee. She likes Rose apples a lot.

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Added on June 20, 2007, 11:00 pmGot lah.... you busy bowling je ahahah.... Just ask Snow for updates, seems Shadow bit her a bit.... I think he scared maybe his brother Jarrah not there to protect him hahahah.

Hahaha... it's not PS... typo... it's PF, Pet Family. Not sure when it will end but not everything is 40% off... mainly the reptile foods and supplements I think....

Iggy and Luna still smell fresh? I just gave a bath to Kiah last night, now the fur so soft and smooth, she spent the whole night sleeping with me on my neck hahahah... Hope Jarrah can be like her soon.

Anyway, you may get joeys mah.... Luna and Iggy can give you a few heheheh

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Jun 20 2007, 11:00 PM

wah..sleep on your neck..wont you just turn and just "splat" become a pancake?haha...

Not all gliders can be like mine.... mine was trained since young.

Well, most of our tropical fruits are okay to be given to gliders, I've given mine rose apples(jambu air), jackfruit, ciku, water chestnut, lychee and guava, besides the normal apples, pears, papaya, mango, watermelon, honeydew and so on. So far so good, but things need to watch is their poo after feeding lah, some fruits can cause the poo to be very smelly, some makes 'em liquidish. Ohh, and I feed them veggies too, like carrots, cherry tomatoes and sweetpea The ones we know to avoid are those higher phosphorus ration than calcium, plus grapes, corn, avacado and iceberg lettuce

Huhh, Shadow bit Snow? Yeah, I think without his brother feel a bit scared

Aiyoh, PF ker Was thinking to get the Explorarium, Flextray and some leaves... Haihhh, nevermind lah.

Iggy and Luna starting to smell a bit lah, but not as bad yet lah So geram lah, it's still more of Luna's smell lah, remember I told you that she rubs her body at the bottom of the cage? I think thats why she stinks Dunno what to do anymore...

Ahh, Iggy and Luna's joey? Haihhh, hope not too soon, what with Luna's condition...

Ohh, lately I dunno who has been doing it, but someone has been biting off the leaves and putting them in the pouch, so terkejut when I put my hand in the pouch and felt something else, thot was an insect or cockroach, rupanya the leaves... Do you know why ahh? Making nest??


KP

Thanks Hun & KP for the info. I will be getting Calc. & Vitamin supplements anyway when I decide to get.
Yes Hun I finally got on - for some reason the forum would not accept the ( business's ) email address but I tried a gmail address that a friend set up for me which works. The "Bat Ray" photos I have seen in a Taiwanese stingray magazine weird !!
Thks again

No prob!

Okay people, been wanting to ask y'all about this, keep on forgetting or no time to type it out

What do you use for you suggies perching/resting place in the cage? (ie, the perching stick that come with the cage, Exo Terra vines, etc)

Currently I'm using Exo Terra vines. I used to use the perching stick that came with the cage plus the vines, but I find that the stick absorbs pee and is very-very-very stinky even tho I have washed it with soap and dry it out. The smell just sticks on it So I had it removed and am now just using the vines.

Unfortunately now I find that the vines stinks too!! I clean the cage every week, wash the tray and wipe the bars, I even wash the cage throughly with hot water and bleach once a month, but I still find it smelly right after all the cleaning I've done. Then I took a sniff on the vines, phewww, they stink too I resorted to washing all the vines and hang dry it outside, BUT, the smell does not go away!

Arghhh! I'm thinking to have it all removed... But I couldn't, cuz Iggy and Luna loves to sit on the vines or play around it, they need perching places. So now, I am cracking my head like mad to think of the best solution or best type of perching place to replace the vines. I have a few fleece rope that I sew and tie it from wall to wall, but that is not a good/stable perching place, Iggy and Luna uses it to hang upside down or walk/crawl on it only. I'm thinking of using PVC pipes or those plastic mesh so that it can be washed easily, but I don't know whether they can grip on the PVC pipes or even how to make a stable perching place using the plastic mesh without using the cable tie (if I use cable tie, I won't be able to remove it to wash it )

Ohh, I even thot of purchasing those long spiral like branches at PS, but worry it will absorb the pee too because the surface is untreated. Unless if I use varnish or something... But I worry it could harm the suggies...

How?



Does anyone here has a solution? Or using something that doesn't absorb the pee or can easily be washed?




KP

This post has been edited by krynzpeaches: Jun 21 2007, 04:14 PM

Hi KP
Regarding your problem with artificial vines. I have "Silk" vines in with my GTP & there is always faeces & urea ( white faeces) attached. I clean mine with detergent . rinse & leave in full sun to dry. If you leave it out for a few days the sun may get rid of the smell ( which it does for mine ) or maybe buy a second lot of cheaper vines to use whilst the first lot is in the sun

Cherry tomatoes can? Hmmm... haven't tried Ciku or Nangka coz I don't like those fruits hahahah.... I do give carrots too and Kiah likes to chew Sawi... really cute to watch. Right now even her mix has a slice of carrot and a sawi leaf inside. I know papaya makes the poo smelly ahahah.

I think they want to make the nest comfy. Try leaving some tissue paper inside their cage and see what happens. I don't have any fake plants in my cage so Kiah doesn't do anything strange.... so far lah.

Jarrah miss Shadow... today Jarrah made a soft hissing sound, like calling and calling... then he look at me pulak. Naughty boy still crabs but he is better now, not so crabby in the pouch.

Ohh... no wonder. The Bat rays are weird, got 1 farm breeding them in thailand, looks like deformed, some looked like butterflys too...

Hahah... Out of topic already.

So when will you be getting your gliders? Are they easy to find in Thailand?

What you can do is soak the vines in a solution of water and baking soda for 10 minutes, then just sun it without washing off the baking soda. Perfectly safe. Seems baking soda is a good deodorizer. Oh, you can get 1 500g bag of organic baking soda at Ikano's organic shop for only Rm2.50....

There is no substitute for the vines but natural tree branches... I have 1 branch but I have no idea what tree it is but it seems safe and has no bark on it anymore.... most of our fruit tree branches here are toxic. The safest I think would be the hibiscus plant but then the branches on a hibiscus plant are so thin and small..... Rambutan and rose apple branches are not suitable, toxic..... erm, I think Guava is safe coz it is recommended for parrots.

Aww.. poor Jarrah. Shadow seems better today. Less crabby. Last night he crabbed at the slightest movement.

Today he seemed ok when I took his pouch out of the cage.
And right now, I placed both their pouches side-by-side while letting them eat in their own pouch. They're both so adorable!

Yah... poor Jarrah still crying for Shadow.... aiyoh, sad little guy.

Hi Hun
Firstly sorry about the "out of topic".
SG's are very easy to get in Thailand - HOWEVER the majority are very young. I have heard of one private breeder & will be trying to get from him. I wont discuss the reasons on the forum.
I have an old store room outside the house which I want to convert to a nocturnal hse. It is approx. 7 to 8' high x 10' long but narrow - 3' wide. I have written to a friend in Sydney asking him if Taronga Zoo uses "moonlights" as I might get one sent over & put in the hse. I have got access to Eucalyptus tree's which grow near our nursery & can get branches to put in it. It will be a few months before I get the SG's.