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post Jun 18 2017, 01:18 PM, updated 9y ago

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Guys, starting out this topic in advance so that we can discuss about the latest gym update that will be released.

Our previous discussion thread on possible revamp - https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4257267

Announcement by Niantic on gym closure as below
(Source: https://support.pokemongo.nianticlabs.com/hc/en-us)




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post Jun 18 2017, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(thirty6whoisit @ Jun 18 2017, 01:18 PM)
Guys, starting out this topic in advance so that we can discuss about the latest gym update that will be released.

Our previous discussion thread on possible revamp - https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4257267

Announcement by Niantic on gym closure as below
(Source: https://support.pokemongo.nianticlabs.com/hc/en-us)
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Nothing much leaked out now, I can just think of these:
1. Call for Gym raid by same team.
2. New berry to feed the gym sitter to maintain health in gym.
3. Type limitation for gym placement.

I do hope they can solve these:
1. Gym lag especially the health refund and loop of death and alive.
2. Prestige snipping.

Anything extra will be good.
Just few more days to go.

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post Jun 18 2017, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(thirty6whoisit @ Jun 18 2017, 01:06 PM)
Lol... If they're not going to disclose what dynamics are changing, they won't disclose how the system would work. But tbh, I wouldn't mind testing it out once released. Hopefully we can have more discussion on it.
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Frankly i dont think it makes sense fo niantic to disclose details before launch of the new system.

Having said that, they should work with the community like tsr, gamepress etc even social media to get the message out immediately upon launch and not just let folks figure it out themselves.
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 18 2017, 02:55 PM)
Frankly i dont think it makes sense fo niantic to disclose details before launch of the new system.

Having said that, they should work with the community like tsr, gamepress etc even social media to get the message out immediately upon launch and not just let folks figure it out themselves.
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LOL.. based on past experience, they haven't done so... so i guess it will be the same this round.
TSR, gamepress, gohub probably will do their own research and release some articles soon after.

Btw, manage to claim gyms this morning ard 9.40am. If they really follow p.s.t, probably the last can claim before update.
Later back to grinding xp and trying to increase dust count.

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post Jun 19 2017, 05:49 PM

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I am still able to claim the coins. thats it for the coins. tomorrow is the day to watch, may be there is mew two for us to battle, on winning, place our pokemon.
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post Jun 19 2017, 09:19 PM

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Guys... ITS HERE!!!!

https://www.pokemongolive.com/en/post/raids
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post Jun 19 2017, 10:02 PM

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Please feel free to share your thoughts.

Imo:
1. Gyms won't be stagnant, relatively easy to take down gyms - 6 vs 6. However, no mention of any rewards for holding gyms.

2. Unfortunately, the current meta is still relevant coz top 6 Mon of t9, d9, snorlax, rhydon, gyarados n blissey still relevant. Therefore, theirs counters are also the most worthwhile to pump.

3. Need to spend more stardust, possibly more money for iap and petrol (lol). Bag storage going to be more n more insufficient.

4. Should be interesting to see how they assign raid bosses by locations and almost certainly this is how legendaries will be introduced.

5. Prestigers are no longer relevant it seems. So it's either pump or dump.


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post Jun 19 2017, 11:48 PM

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Dafuq.

And they introduce TM to for new movesets.

Im guessing thats how theyre gonna release legendaries

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If you successfully defeat the Raid Boss within the five-minute time limit, you’ll have the chance to catch an extra powerful Pokémon of your own!


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QUOTE(mulut99 @ Jun 19 2017, 09:30 PM)
WoW....big changes. I also get confuse how the new gym really works sweat.gif
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From the looks of it. No more lvl 10 gym. Always 6 vs 6 and once a while have all pokemons will be returned to trainer to fight raid boss.

Knn i pump so many dragonites for farks

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QUOTE(thirty6whoisit @ Jun 19 2017, 10:02 PM)
Imo:
1. Gyms won't be stagnant, relatively easy to take down gyms - 6 vs 6. However, no mention of any rewards for holding gyms.

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Coins rewarded after ur pokemon returns to you based on how long it sat.
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post Jun 20 2017, 12:08 AM

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The vid say if beat the raid boss then got chance to beat it.

Dafuq...29K ttar!!

Now I felt all my grinding went to waste.

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More detailed reading

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive...-new-items.aspx
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post Jun 20 2017, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 20 2017, 12:02 AM)
Coins rewarded after ur pokemon returns to you based on how long it sat.
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Issit? That will be interesting. Where was this stated?
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QUOTE(thirty6whoisit @ Jun 20 2017, 12:26 AM)
Issit? That will be interesting. Where was this stated?
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Dronpes post in tsr and the gameinformer article.

It seems the press got a preview.
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QUOTE(thirty6whoisit @ Jun 20 2017, 12:26 AM)
Issit? That will be interesting. Where was this stated?
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A low motivation level hinders the effectiveness of the Pokémon in the gym, and when the level bottoms out, the Pokémon returns to its trainer. Only after a Pokémon leaves the gym does the trainer receive the Pokécoins from having a Pokémon in the gym, giving you reason to let your Pokémon leave a gym occasionally. Just like it is now, the longer your Pokémon is in the gym, the more rewards you receive.


From the link sniper posted just now
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post Jun 20 2017, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 20 2017, 12:29 AM)
Dronpes post in tsr and the gameinformer article.

It seems the press got a preview.
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Thanks! Read it.
I don't mind the change. Niantic is trying to be fair.

Unfortunately, on the pessimistic side, I foresee "certain groups" trying to dominate gyms simultaneously. So, ppl will have to be gym active n take down gyms. Have to see how to work around it. Also concerned about raids coz it seems this could be monopolized by the same groups.

We wasted hard earn dust on defenders, when now it seems stardust more useful on attackers and wasteful on defenders because it decays faster. alien2003 1qaz1qaz HenryLow your time to shine... Lol


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QUOTE(thirty6whoisit @ Jun 20 2017, 12:38 AM)
Thanks! Read it.
I don't mind the change. Niantic is trying to be fair.

Unfortunately, on the pessimistic side, I foresee "certain groups" trying to dominate gyms simultaneously. So, ppl will have to be gym active n take down gyms. Have to see how to work around it. Also concerned about raids coz it seems this could be monopolized by the same groups.

We wasted hard earn dust on defenders, when now it seems stardust more useful on attackers and wasteful on defenders because it decays faster. alien2003 1qaz1qaz HenryLow your time to shine... Lol
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You only. I wasted all my dusts on attackers.

Must've missed it but the attackers must be unique as well?
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 20 2017, 12:44 AM)
You only. I wasted all my dusts on attackers.

Must've missed it but the attackers must be unique as well?
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then good what, easy to whack.
I didn't see it being written anywhere by based on graphics seems like all different (unique).. That would be interesting as well.

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http://pokemongo.nianticlabs.com/en/post/raids

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post Jun 20 2017, 06:44 AM

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Noticed that they add gyms at my place.....should be coming real soon......all gym closed since 12am.

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Guys, just to inform you all ... Although gyms are disabled, you are still able to claim rewards for mons in gyms. So far only 1 has returned to me fully revived.
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Oh yeah.. Just wondering.. How would someone complete the ace trainer medal assuming they haven't completed it? Hmm....
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Clearer explanation about the new system

https://support.pokemongo.nianticlabs.com/h...es/115009004687
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 20 2017, 09:30 AM)
Since gym training has been abolished, what are you all going to do with your Prestiger?
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 20 2017, 09:30 AM)
I have to give credit when its due... for the first time Niantic is disclosing what is coming in somewhat detail. Kudos!

QUOTE(segiempat @ Jun 20 2017, 10:03 AM)
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Lol... its a nice touch tbh. But not easy to obtain.
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QUOTE(hybridkit @ Jun 20 2017, 10:09 AM)
Since gym training has been abolished, what are you all going to do with your Prestiger?
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Send them to the professor to make burgers tongue.gif

But seriously... I'll hang on to it for a while first since we still won't know the speed of decay vs CP.

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 20 2017, 10:17 AM)
Send them to the professor to make burgers tongue.gif

But seriously... I'll hang on to it for a while first since we still won't know the speed of decay vs CP.

Premier ball

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Alright, will keep them until new gym update is out.

Finally Nanab berries is useful for Raid Boss and as feeding berries. Now berries are more important then potions, better start stocking now.

Also hope Niantic allow trainers to expand our bag space.
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QUOTE(thirty6whoisit @ Jun 20 2017, 12:38 AM)
Thanks! Read it.
I don't mind the change. Niantic is trying to be fair.

Unfortunately, on the pessimistic side, I foresee "certain groups" trying to dominate gyms simultaneously. So, ppl will have to be gym active n take down gyms. Have to see how to work around it. Also concerned about raids coz it seems this could be monopolized by the same groups.

We wasted hard earn dust on defenders, when now it seems stardust more useful on attackers and wasteful on defenders because it decays faster. alien2003 1qaz1qaz HenryLow your time to shine... Lol
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mine attackers also LOL... only 1 Def T9 i think... i don have good blissey and snorlax... tongue.gif
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Probably a good time to level up other promising pokemons with good IV/moveset? Might compliment trainers to one another in a battle, who knows? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(thirty6whoisit @ Jun 20 2017, 10:16 AM)
I have to give credit when its due... for the first time Niantic is disclosing what is coming in somewhat detail. Kudos!
Lol... its a nice touch tbh. But not easy to obtain.
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They have to, otherwise all the apk data miners will spoil the fun revealing all the details before them. And also to get us familiar with all the new stuffs before release
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QUOTE(kerberos09 @ Jun 20 2017, 10:32 AM)
Probably a good time to level up other promising pokemons with good IV/moveset? Might compliment trainers to one another in a battle, who knows?  hmm.gif
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I think its a good time to relook at the meta.

For one, Lapras is relevant again. Perhaps even more so than before the nerf. Being water/ice type, it's practically immune/pose nasty surprise to most attacker in the meta.

Machamp would work on it but its will also take a lot of damage ruling it out for snorlax and blisseys

Jolteon also works but is glass canon... can kena one shot kill by hydropump.


QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 20 2017, 10:17 AM)

Premier ball

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I just found out that premier ball is just a white pokeball. OMG... catching dragonite with just limited pokeballs.
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QUOTE(thirty6whoisit @ Jun 20 2017, 07:10 AM)
Oh yeah.. Just wondering.. How would someone complete the ace trainer medal assuming they haven't completed it? Hmm....
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Ace Medal: This achievement is also retiring. You’ll still keep the Medal but, since you can no longer train at Gyms, you won’t be able to make further progress on it.

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 20 2017, 12:19 PM)
Gameplay

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got private group for raid? hmm.gif

wonder if there's any limit for raid, later need fight for slot then doh.gif
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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Jun 20 2017, 01:58 PM)
got private group for raid? hmm.gif

wonder if there's any limit for raid, later need fight for slot then doh.gif
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Any number of Trainers can join a raid, but only in groups of up to 20 Trainers
https://support.pokemongo.nianticlabs.com/h...es/115009004747

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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Jun 20 2017, 01:58 PM)
got private group for raid? hmm.gif

wonder if there's any limit for raid, later need fight for slot then doh.gif
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Any number of Trainers can join a raid, but only in groups of up to 20 Trainers
https://support.pokemongo.nianticlabs.com/h...es/115009004747
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From what I read... the private raid group code thing is that lets say you and your friends planned on raiding.

You guys can enter the raid code and battle together using ur 3.6K ttars, 3.5K D9s and what not rather than relying on RNG to assign you with some random strangers there battling with their 1.5K vaporeons as the results determined the rewards you get like how many premier balls you get to catch the raid boss.
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QUOTE(thirty6whoisit @ Jun 20 2017, 02:53 PM)
Any number of Trainers can join a raid, but only in groups of up to 20 Trainers
https://support.pokemongo.nianticlabs.com/h...es/115009004747
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in super hot area, 20 trainers slot will be gone in 1 seconds.
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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Jun 20 2017, 03:00 PM)
in super hot area, 20 trainers slot will be gone in 1 seconds.
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Or 20 slots all fully occupied and you're the only person there. laugh.gif


Update: Just read that raids will last 1 hour so I suppose in that hour... some trainers would've finished and free up the slot.

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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Jun 20 2017, 03:00 PM)
in super hot area, 20 trainers slot will be gone in 1 seconds.
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That's why not everyone will get legendaries...
I hope if they do include legendaries, all will be similar level (CP) and IV across the world so that they can limit the # of legendaries a player can get... e.g. each player can only get 1 of each legendary bird in gen 1, 1 mew, 1 mewtwo.... etc.
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QUOTE(thirty6whoisit @ Jun 20 2017, 03:25 PM)
That's why not everyone will get legendaries...
I hope if they do include legendaries, all will be similar level (CP) and IV across the world so that they can limit the # of legendaries a player can get... e.g. each player can only get 1 of each legendary bird in gen 1, 1 mew, 1 mewtwo.... etc.
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Why? Its not like you can stack them in gyms anymore.
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Why? Its not like you can stack them in gyms anymore.
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True... but you can place them in multiple gyms.
And fact is, legit will lose out to ....
That's why i thought give opp to more players.
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QUOTE(thirty6whoisit @ Jun 20 2017, 03:34 PM)
True... but you can place them in multiple gyms.
And fact is, legit will lose out to ....
That's why i thought give opp to more players.
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Same lah... multiple accounts also can get multiple legendaries wut

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Same lah... multiple accounts also can get multiple legendaries wut
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True, but unless running bots, you can only battle using both hands... So worse case you get 2 (unless some players have learnt how to battle efficiently with > 2 devices simultaneously). But its only my wishful thinking tongue.gif ...
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any conclusion on gym update? summary? the big mega boss is the 3 legendary birds?
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QUOTE(thirty6whoisit @ Jun 20 2017, 04:16 PM)
True, but unless running bots, you can only battle using both hands... So worse case you get 2 (unless some players have learnt how to battle efficiently with > 2 devices simultaneously). But its only my wishful thinking  tongue.gif ...
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I see folks battling with 2 phones all the time biggrin.gif

They even have a DIY rig for it. Essentially a wood/plastic board to fit 2 phones with bungee cords to keep the phones in place and affixed to their scooter.

Can spin stops, grind pokes and battle gyms with 2 phones at the same time.


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More about TM from Niantic

Btw for those haven't got the Ice medal yet, 11 hours more to go!

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I see folks battling with 2 phones all the time biggrin.gif

They even have a DIY rig for it. Essentially a wood/plastic board to fit 2 phones with bungee cords to keep the phones in place and affixed to their scooter.

Can spin stops, grind pokes and battle gyms with 2 phones at the same time.
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Whoa got pics 😅
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Whoa got pics 😅
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Will keep that in mind the next time I see one.
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Damn.. it takes a lot of berries to fill the motivation meter


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Damn.. it takes a lot of berries to fill the motivation meter


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From the video, Trainer also receive +50 stardust for every berry.

Nanab berry is useful now, indirect stardust gain
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QUOTE(hybridkit @ Jun 21 2017, 12:36 PM)
From the video, Trainer also receive +50 stardust for every berry.

Nanab berry is useful now, indirect stardust gain
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Already started hoarding tongue.gif
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A new construct has appeared in the codebase called a Battle Team. Trying not to get too hyped, but this appears to be the much-requested ability to pre-store a battle team(s)! The following attributes give us cause to get excited:

LastUsedTeam - likely referring to the 6 Pokemon selected in the previous battleTeamNameMaxLength- ...is this the ability to name battle teams? (!)BATTLE_TEAM_PREFERENCE_KEY- Perhaps the 'preferred' or 'favorite' team?

Now, this is highly speculative until the Gym update turns on - at which point it will be obvious to all! But in the moments before it goes live, this does appear to point to pre-selectable battle teams, travelers.



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After they removed the need of prestige in gym?

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QUOTE(kww @ Jun 21 2017, 11:34 PM)
After they removed the need of prestige in gym?
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It's better than manually selecting a team all the time and dealing with sprites being loaded/lag.

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Slow coming days - no gyms, no event mons, no triple XP, no nothing, just the usual Sentrets and Hoothoot 😔
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 22 2017, 09:07 AM)
It's better than manually selecting a team all the time and dealing with sprites being loaded/lag.
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The real struggle is prestige, need to scroll to the cp range, look for the mon that can do the job and need to change all 6 of it.
I have favorited my attacking group, selection is fast and most of the time I don't need to change all 6 when gym level is not high.
Well, it is better than never. Shouldn't complain too much.

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post Jun 22 2017, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(segiempat @ Jun 22 2017, 09:57 AM)
Slow coming days - no gyms, no event mons, no triple XP, no nothing, just the usual Sentrets and Hoothoot 😔
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Im taking it as time to recuperate physically and inventory.

QUOTE(kww @ Jun 22 2017, 10:09 AM)
The real struggle is prestige, need to scroll to the cp range, look for the mon that can do the job and need to change all 6 of it.
I have favorited my attacking group, selection is fast and most of the time I don't need to change all 6 when gym level is not high.
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But auto-select keep insisting rhydon shud be in the list.
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 22 2017, 10:15 AM)
But auto-select keep insisting rhydon shud be in the list.
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Have you favorited the Rhydon?
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Latest APK mine findings & updates - highlighting 3 major ones. The rest can find from link below:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comme...is_complete_15/


1. Battle Teams
As mentioned by sniper on the roof

Appears to be the much-requested ability to pre-store a battle team(s)! The following attributes give us cause to get excited:

LastUsedTeam - likely referring to the 6 Pokemon selected in the previous battle
TeamNameMaxLength- ...is this the ability to name battle teams? (!)
BATTLE_TEAM_PREFERENCE_KEY- Perhaps the 'preferred' or 'favorite' team?

3. Max Total Deployed Pokemon Limit
Appears there is a new limit in the code (whether active or inactive at this point has yet to be seen) called:

MaxPlayerTotalDeployedPokemon

While this limit may simply be in place to prevent a player deploying multiple Pokemon at the same Gym, we believe it may be more than that. Notably all 3* of these exist as distinct limits:

MaxPlayerDeployedPokemon
MaxTotalDeployedPokemon
MaxSamePokemonAtFort

This points to a new limit on the total number of Pokemon a player can actively deploy in any Gym (fort).

4. Legendary Battles
Official references to legendary Pokemon have appeared in the APK! We see them in a few places. Namely, in the player stats:
NumLegendaryBattleWon
NumLegendaryBattleTotal
and in the Item Types, where we find a Legendary Raid Ticket, a badge for 'Legendary Battles Won' and a deployment error called ERROR_LEGENDARY_POKEMON.

So, altogether now, here's what we think we know:
Legendaries will be encountered in Raid situations (either at events, or under special circumstances isn't clear). They will require a 'Legendary Raid Ticket' item to enter the legendary raid. We currently believe you cannot deploy legendaries to defend Gyms. This is an interesting restriction that may help prevent a significant imbalance between botters/illegitimate players (who oft find ways to score rare Pokemon) with legitimate trainers. Not to mention it will significantly cut down the black market value for accounts with these legendary species.

In order to participate in Legendary Raid Battles, a Pokémon GO trainer must obtain a Legendary Raid Pass. These special Raid Passes are awarded to high-level players who have already participated in hundreds of Raid Battles. Niantic has confirmed that these Passes will be given only to “those who were very active in the gym system to give them a chance at catching legendary Pokemon at a later date.”
(https://pokemongohub.net/gym-raid-update/legendary-raid-battles/)

P.S. TMs will only reroll quick and charge moves that are in the existing pool available for the species.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comme...d9km/?context=3

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In addition to that, the search feature in Pogo can be used as follows:

1. Name - filter by species name or unique nickname
2. Type - e.g. typing "fire" returns all fire types.
3. Species - +bulbasaur give all in the evolution family
4. Pokedex # - e.g. 248 give you tyranitar and 200 - 248 give all mon within that range.
5. CP and HP range - e.g. cp1200-1600 gives all mons cp within that range.
6. If you type "evolve" you will get a filter of all mons that you have enough candies to evolve
7. Combo - If you type "cp100,148" the search will filter all cp100 mons and all dragonairs .

https://pokemongohub.net/gym-raid-update/se...ar-cheat-sheet/

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QUOTE(thirty6whoisit @ Jun 22 2017, 12:23 PM)
In addition to that, the search feature in Pogo can be used as follows:

1. Name - filter by species name or unique nickname
2. Type - e.g. typing "fire" returns all fire types.
3. Species - +bulbasaur give all in the evolution family
4. Pokedex # - e.g. 248 give you tyranitar and 200 - 248 give all mon within that range.
5. CP and HP range - e.g. cp1200-1600 gives  all mons cp within that range.
6. If you type "evolve" you will get a filter of all mons that you have enough candies to evolve
7. Combo - If you type "cp100,148" the search will filter all cp100 mons and all dragonairs .

https://pokemongohub.net/gym-raid-update/se...ar-cheat-sheet/
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LET THE BATTLE BEGINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! rclxm9.gif
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Yup, gym construction completed. Beautifully renovated. Can't wait!
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post Jun 23 2017, 07:09 AM

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so fast gyms kena pao.
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post Jun 23 2017, 07:12 AM

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Hahaha bugger Niantic only 1 coin per hour...
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#quitgym
niantic so called new update better game play is their money digging plan
1 hours = 1 coin and only collect-able when mon return lol

and the cycle is endless if one keep feeding, one keep attacking
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QUOTE(segiempat @ Jun 23 2017, 07:12 AM)
Hahaha bugger Niantic only 1 coin per hour...
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QUOTE(1qaz1qaz @ Jun 23 2017, 08:08 AM)
#quitgym
niantic so called new update better game play is their money digging plan
1 hours = 1 coin and only collect-able when mon return lol

and the cycle is endless if one keep feeding, one keep attacking
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Lol....Niantic so damn lousy....1 coin per hour. Gym at my place cannot last long. Some time 1 minute....kicked out. And if those spoofer and bot back then......how?
It make more people stop playing. Most of my friends are stopping and now 1 coin per hour..... sweat.gif

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gym fight is still lagging, in fact i feel it's even worst.

and very time consuming to take down a gym, even though if it's just 1 pokemon there.
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QUOTE(mulut99 @ Jun 23 2017, 08:13 AM)
Lol....Niantic so damn lousy....1 coin per hour. Gym at my place cannot last long. Some time 1 minute....kicked out. And if those spoofer and bot back then......how?
It make more people stop playing. Most of my friends are stopping and now 1 coin per hour..... sweat.gif
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u can last longer then that
1 3k mon = 5round to take down
if u are nearby and u hv shit lot of berries
u feed, he atk = endless


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QUOTE(1qaz1qaz @ Jun 23 2017, 08:08 AM)
#quitgym
niantic so called new update better game play is their money digging plan
1 hours = 1 coin and only collect-able when mon return lol

and the cycle is endless if one keep feeding, one keep attacking
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So true! Niantic = gold digger.

Gym battle is not smooth and lagging even worst. Damn!
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post Jun 23 2017, 08:54 AM

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Motivation berry low now.

The only good i see is now i can even back my coin number.

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i put my pokemon at the gym, it came back in less than an hour.

where do i collect my 1 coin?
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post Jun 23 2017, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Jun 23 2017, 08:24 AM)
gym fight is still lagging, in fact i feel it's even worst.

and very time consuming to take down a gym, even though if it's just 1 pokemon there.
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It even crashed on me and its worse on lesser phone. My daughter's playing on a old zenfone 2 laser and giler jerky like hell.


QUOTE(1qaz1qaz @ Jun 23 2017, 08:31 AM)
u can last longer then that
1 3k mon = 5round to take down
if u are nearby and u hv shit lot of berries
u feed, he atk = endless
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Already fought an endless battle for 30 mins and the gym just gets stronger.

And gg minority team....Mystic taken over the whole freakin down. Seriously... all 5 gym within visibility range are mystic. And this morning's run... all gyms around my home are mystic.

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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Jun 23 2017, 08:58 AM)
i put my pokemon at the gym, it came back in less than an hour.

where do i collect my 1 coin?
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rumours say u need to defend atleast 1 hour only can get 1 coin

QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 23 2017, 09:10 AM)
It even crashed on me and its worse on lesser phone. My daughter's playing on a old zenfone 2 laser and giler jerky like hell.
Already fought an endless battle for 30 mins and the gym just gets stronger.

And gg minority team....Mystic taken over the whole freakin down. Seriously... all 5 gym within visibility range are mystic. And this morning's run... all gyms around my home are mystic.
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me too the official news come out around 4-5am out time
by the time i wake up for work today 6am all gym full(or least parked with d9/tyra) but lucky same team. so i just join along

hate playing US server based games, so gg for use SEA
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 23 2017, 09:10 AM)
It even crashed on me and its worse on lesser phone. My daughter's playing on a old zenfone 2 laser and giler jerky like hell.
Already fought an endless battle for 30 mins and the gym just gets stronger.

And gg minority team....Mystic taken over the whole freakin down. Seriously... all 5 gym within visibility range are mystic. And this morning's run... all gyms around my home are mystic.
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Same here all Mystic...sien jor

All the old gym bugs still there and even more erratic like the health bar up down up down, mons sprites all salah (too big)...thankfully no lag on my ip7
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QUOTE(1qaz1qaz @ Jun 23 2017, 09:18 AM)
rumours say u need to defend atleast 1 hour only can get 1 coin
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bangwall.gif aint gonna camp there for an hour just for 1 bloody coin.

anyone above level 35 tried out the raid?

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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Jun 23 2017, 09:19 AM)
bangwall.gif aint gonna camp there for an hour just for 1 bloody coin.

anyone above level 35 tried out the raid?
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there is not motivation for gym now
since only 1 coin
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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Jun 23 2017, 08:58 AM)
i put my pokemon at the gym, it came back in less than an hour.

where do i collect my 1 coin?
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Auto collect one but i m afraid its zero if less than an hour. 1 coin if one hour, 2 coins two hours and so on...

Its officially impossible for me to get any coin where I stay unless more late night gym action

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saw on reddit, some say they received candy from feeding berries to pokemons. hmm.gif
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I don't understand... which berries are we feeding?

I just received my raid pass for the day.
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I don't understand... which berries are we feeding?

I just received my raid pass for the day.
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you can select which berry to feed.
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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Jun 23 2017, 09:27 AM)
you can select which berry to feed.
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They should put Nanab berry as default
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say you put in a D9 with 3000 CP. If no battle, no berry, how long does it take before its CP goes to 0???
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jun 23 2017, 09:30 AM)
say you put in a D9 with 3000 CP. If no battle, no berry, how long does it take before its CP goes to 0???
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for mine, i put my CP 2000 venasaur in the gym, and the motivation dropped immediately. pretty sure nobody even attacked it.

not sure if it's a bug. mad.gif
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say you put in a D9 with 3000 CP. If no battle, no berry, how long does it take before its CP goes to 0???
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41.666 minutes?

Guess have to wait for actual calculations from sites

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QUOTE(segiempat @ Jun 23 2017, 09:50 AM)
41.666 minutes
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sos?
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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Jun 23 2017, 09:47 AM)
for mine, i put my CP 2000 venasaur in the gym, and the motivation dropped immediately. pretty sure nobody even attacked it.

not sure if it's a bug.  mad.gif
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that is automatic. You've to feed it a berry.

the bug I experienced was when switching pokemon. And the power bar and HP bar also got problem. Not very accurate.
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damn!! i think niantic will have to re calculate the time of defending gym. the changes are too drastic to counter the spoofers yes, but also take the local out of the game also. who got 24 hours staying at a place one. working, resting at home. bascially ask trainer don't go anyway but station there just for an hour per coin??
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Jun 23 2017, 09:57 AM)
damn!! i think niantic will have to re calculate the time of defending gym. the changes are too drastic to counter the spoofers yes, but also take the local out of the game also. who got 24 hours staying at a place one. working, resting at home. bascially ask trainer don't go anyway but station there just for an hour per coin??
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Or spend RM0.19 to save 10 hours waiting. Niantic is all Pay-to-win now with POGO
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Jun 23 2017, 09:57 AM)
damn!! i think niantic will have to re calculate the time of defending gym. the changes are too drastic to counter the spoofers yes, but also take the local out of the game also. who got 24 hours staying at a place one. working, resting at home. bascially ask trainer don't go anyway but station there just for an hour per coin??
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it does not kill spoofers just more work for them
and yes niantic just kill the gym game play in term of reward, the effort to reward ratio is not balance doh.gif
for those who have gym right ontop/beside/behind their house/office/school/college is lucky af
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Snorlax 1h 7 min CP2810 (original CP3168).

= (3168-2810)/67mins = 5CP per mins?? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(1qaz1qaz @ Jun 23 2017, 10:06 AM)
it does not kill spoofers just more work for them
and yes niantic just kill the gym game play in term of reward, the effort to reward ratio is not balance  doh.gif
for those who have gym right ontop/beside/behind their house/office/school/college is lucky af
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days of collecting 100 coins per day is gone, or rather say upped difficulties
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my blissey parked for 57 minutes and got kicked out ... vmad.gif

so zero coin!!
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jun 23 2017, 10:07 AM)
Snorlax 1h 7 min CP2810 (original CP3168).

= (3168-2810)/67mins = 5CP per mins?? rclxub.gif
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Means got ppl feed ur blissey
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jun 23 2017, 10:10 AM)
my blissey parked for 57 minutes and got kicked out ... vmad.gif

so zero coin!!
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Try again 😅

As much as I dislike the new reward system I will give it few days to proper evaluate than jus knee jerk reaction. I m pretty sure Niantic has gone through all sort of scenarios to balance pissing everyone off and still making profit as a company
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QUOTE(segiempat @ Jun 23 2017, 10:29 AM)
Try again 😅

As much as I dislike the new reward system I will give it few days to proper evaluate than jus knee jerk reaction. I m pretty sure Niantic has gone through all sort of scenarios to balance pissing everyone off and still making profit as a company
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please buy more coins. brows.gif
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QUOTE(segiempat @ Jun 23 2017, 10:29 AM)
Try again 😅

As much as I dislike the new reward system I will give it few days to proper evaluate than jus knee jerk reaction. I m pretty sure Niantic has gone through all sort of scenarios to balance pissing everyone off and still making profit as a company
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Guess wat....

Now you can buy max revives, max potions and further increase bag/pkm storage to 1500
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got back my Snorlax ... got 1 coin. sad.gif

I spent 30 minutes to take down that gym....
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Guess wat....

Now you can buy max revives, max potions and further increase bag/pkm storage to 1500
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Definitely worth to max it.
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Guess wat....

Now you can buy max revives, max potions and further increase bag/pkm storage to 1500
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only bag
mons storage still no
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only bag
mons storage still no
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If no more prestige, I think I can clear off at least 300 of the mon from storage.
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In summary... this update despite the bling new look and all... is quite boring.

- Decays too fast. defenders not challenging... just one big Ttar/D9 more or less clean sweep the whole lineup at least 1.5x if dodge. Takes waaaaay less resources to take down gym.

- Raids not out yet but regular gym doesn't encourage building strong mons since don't need strong ones to attack and all defenders become equally rubbish.

- Not rewarding. Battled whole morning for 2 coins. Previously blur blur also at least 10 coins.

- Encourages spoofing.

- The bugs but this will eventually be ironed out.

What I do like:

- Entering the battle... it showed my DB/DC D9 had won 600+ battles. biggrin.gif

- Bling

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 23 2017, 11:08 AM)
In summary... this update despite the bling new look and all... is quite boring.

- Decays too fast. defenders not challenging... just one big Ttar/D9 more or less clean sweep the whole lineup at least 1.5x if dodge. Takes waaaaay less resources to take down gym.

- Raids not out yet but regular gym doesn't encourage building strong mons since don't need strong ones to attack and all defenders become equally rubbish.

- Not rewarding. Battled whole morning for 2 coins. Previously blur blur also at least 10 coins.

- Encourages spoofing.

- The bugs but this will eventually be ironed out.

What I do like:

- Entering the battle... it showed my DB/DC D9 had won 600+ battles.  biggrin.gif

- Bling
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raid out ady
saw few posting
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raid out ady
saw few posting
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Not in taiwan i suppose. Still says not available at my level
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Not in taiwan i suppose. Still says not available at my level
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saw one 8 hour blissey with full motivation. doh.gif

confirm spoofer.
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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Jun 23 2017, 12:29 PM)
saw one 8 hour blissey with full motivation. doh.gif

confirm spoofer.
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how long can they sustain? unless they bot to feed
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Update on Gym Raids:

Only Level 35 and above-
https://twitter.com/PokemonGoApp/status/878052805243752448
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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Jun 23 2017, 12:29 PM)
saw one 8 hour blissey with full motivation. doh.gif

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Well.. the endless gym I battled this morning (near my office but out of range) has the same mons in it with motivation being topped up since 9am.

Everytime I checked, they don't fall below 2/3
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I think the point is that it shows more than half of the active players are spoofing/botting.
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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Jun 23 2017, 12:29 PM)
saw one 8 hour blissey with full motivation. doh.gif

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$%^&*(%$$%^&*(*&^%$%^&*
dont say like this, i damn pantang with this kind of comment or posting
today on leave just at my house(flat) i can reach 2 gym at once and 1 pokestop, been feeding since 6am this morning, so i spoof?

and got one noob comment say "why only lvl35 can play raid, all lvl35 above are spoofers"
wtf? i grind my ass off during event like no life = spoofers?
might as well i really become one... even legit i can commit if i spoofer u all lagi gg
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If the revamp was meant to retain players, then setting Gym Raids to Level 35 and above will totally discourage all except the hard core players. It is no mean feat to dedicate so much time and effort to grind millions and millions of XP.

I for one may finally throw in the towel.
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QUOTE(observ @ Jun 23 2017, 02:32 PM)
If the revamp was meant to retain players, then setting Gym Raids to Level 35 and above will totally discourage all except the hard core players. It is no mean feat to dedicate so much time and effort to grind millions and millions of XP.

I for one may finally throw in the towel.
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Beta only lah... they'll open up after this.
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 23 2017, 11:08 AM)
In summary... this update despite the bling new look and all... is quite boring.

- Decays too fast. defenders not challenging... just one big Ttar/D9 more or less clean sweep the whole lineup at least 1.5x if dodge. Takes waaaaay less resources to take down gym.

- Raids not out yet but regular gym doesn't encourage building strong mons since don't need strong ones to attack and all defenders become equally rubbish.

- Not rewarding. Battled whole morning for 2 coins. Previously blur blur also at least 10 coins.

- Encourages spoofing.

- The bugs but this will eventually be ironed out.

What I do like:

- Entering the battle... it showed my DB/DC D9 had won 600+ battles.  biggrin.gif

- Bling
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You notice your charge bar and health bar jumping up and down?

Also when switch pokemon, it will switch back to the previous pokemon and back to the switched pokemon

I fought a DT / DClaw D9 just now, took me by surprise biggrin.gif
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How to collect coins? It will automatically collect when the gym is down?
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 23 2017, 11:08 AM)
In summary... this update despite the bling new look and all... is quite boring.

- Decays too fast. defenders not challenging... just one big Ttar/D9 more or less clean sweep the whole lineup at least 1.5x if dodge. Takes waaaaay less resources to take down gym.

- Raids not out yet but regular gym doesn't encourage building strong mons since don't need strong ones to attack and all defenders become equally rubbish.

- Not rewarding. Battled whole morning for 2 coins. Previously blur blur also at least 10 coins.

- Encourages spoofing.

- The bugs but this will eventually be ironed out.

What I do like:

- Entering the battle... it showed my DB/DC D9 had won 600+ battles.  biggrin.gif

- Bling
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Agree....not so fun and excited like last time. Play whole morning only got 1-2 coins. If the gym is near my house then ok la....everytime have to go out to feed the mons. If rain then how? Takan nak jaga gym sampai malam malam to earn a few coins? This idea not so good.

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Yes, you will get a notification as well.
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Guys, i've tried taking down a level 6 gym solo in a park near office. Tried out using 3 scenarios: - (1) Using my most powerful mons (cp higher than defender), (2) Using similar or slightly lower cp than the defender and (3) Using half the cp of the defender. All 3 does not significantly affect the quantum of "motivation" reduction. I wonder what the formula is to reduce motivation.

QUOTE(observ @ Jun 23 2017, 02:32 PM)
If the revamp was meant to retain players, then setting Gym Raids to Level 35 and above will totally discourage all except the hard core players. It is no mean feat to dedicate so much time and effort to grind millions and millions of XP.
I for one may finally throw in the towel.
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Like what sniper said, still in beta. I would think the min limit is TL 5 (same like gym).
However, there is a possibility (not certainty) that they release the raids to different tainer levels based on the raid level. Still kinda sucks i know, but hang in there. Level up as much as you can and instead of using gyms / raids as motivation, use legendaries as motivation. (Note: I suspect they planned that legendaries will only be released to level 35 and above, why, i don't know).

QUOTE(TSOM @ Jun 23 2017, 02:51 PM)
I miss the smoke to show that someone is battling at the gym ... sad.gif
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IKR... totally agreed. At least with smoke we can decide - help (if same team), fight a lower level gym (a diff team) standby to slot (if same team takes over). Selfish or not different matter. LOL...





Overall, although the graphics look nice, the game is still buggy. These are some of the issues i noticed since morning.

1) Death loop still exists.
2) Dodging is laggy, but able to dodge.
3) Defender avatar is too huge (for some mon), can't visually see when they wanna release charge move .
4) HP reduction of defender not accurate; similar with the charge bar of our charged move.
5) Defending team can add health (berries) while we are attacking.
6) After defeating entire gym, screen black outs before existing gym.
7) Time vs reward totally not worth it. To solo a level 6 gym and place 1 mon in is extremely time consuming.
8) Territorial gyms still exist; making # 7 tougher.
9) Overall, loading screen slow, phone heats up faster, sightings / nearby often go blank.

Unfortunately, that is what Niantic's plan is all along - "Cooperative Gameplay" - i.e. you need to gangbang. Solo = sorry.
I'm not saying i totally hate the new system, but i don't think many lower level players will be enticed to join / rejoin the game (unless they can play in a group), which i have to say is kinda sad. I might go over to the park nearby my place to check out the gym scene. I have 9 gyms near my house, 2 are in the next door high rise (private, rely on drift) while the rest are accessible. Lets see if there are more ppl playing.




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If people attacking the gym.....feed feed feed also no use. I tried this morning. CP going down faster than feeding......then lose the gym. No good no good. If attacker comes in group....then wasting time & berries.

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QUOTE(hybridkit @ Jun 23 2017, 03:44 PM)
You notice your charge bar and health bar jumping up and down?

Also when switch pokemon, it will switch back to the previous pokemon and back to the switched pokemon

I fought a DT / DClaw D9 just now, took me by surprise  biggrin.gif
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Yeah.. buggy af now.

My first battle with the new system caused the app to crash after going through 5 mons.


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When ur defender gets knocked out and returns. Theres also a time delay and may not get notification.. my first few mons got notified but the last one dont have.

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I just discovered another hidden feature of the update!!

Its causing trainers motivation meter to decay faster than the pokemon.

I just dont feel incentivised to battle with buggy gym or power up as well since i may not get any coins since battling and whether that gym holds depends on spoofers feeding it and/or which the team's territory.

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Logged in after a long while since I saw the update. It's somehow laggy?

But my mon have been in a gym for the past 5 hours around KLCC gym perhaps thanks to the new system. It would have never survived even 30 mins in the old one.
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I noticed that if return within 1 hour, no notification.

QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 23 2017, 04:11 PM)
I just discovered another hidden feature of the update!!

Its causing trainers motivation meter to decay faster than the pokemon.

I just dont feel incentivised to battle with buggy gym or power up as well since i may not get any coins since battling and whether that gym holds depends on spoofers feeding it and/or which the team's territory.
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Mind sharing?
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I noticed that if return within 1 hour, no notification.
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Mind sharing?
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Firstly... I was hyped just like everyone else but my first battle ended up with app crash. So first impression was bad.

And its awful for players in an area dominated by different team.

Like this morning I arrive at the office earlier because I tried to take this new gym nearby. Battled for awhile and then soome other likeminded folks arrived so we tok kok while battle.

1 guy was instinct while another 2 guy was valor like me. Battled for dunno how long di but mons keep getting topped up until all of us gave up. In the previous system, we would've long taken down a blissey stack di.

Then the battling itself feels boring and un-involving with health bar going up and down all the time. Didn't Niantic say they're not fixing the death loop as the update will fix it?

Death loop can be anticipated and worked around but the current state of gym battling is like the health bar/charge bar is going all over the place.. up and down. Never in any point of time I can be sure of how much damage I dealt or taken.

It's more frustrating rather than challenging.

Pls don't take it as bragging.. it's not...but I didn't even bother to pick attackers.. just autoselect and never once I felt that I need more than 2 mons to complete one round.

But its frustrating cos no matter how many times I clear the defenders... they just get fed berries and more defenders being added in.

Last time cheaters can stagnate gyms but even lowly solo players like myself could take them down but now can't even dent it.

By the way, that near office gym is still standing with the same mons inside and forever close to full motivation meter.

While my motivation meter is close to empty.

Oh.. and lastly... you know I don't really care about coins and I'm glad to shell out real $$ whenever I feel like it.

This update made me feel like I'm being made a fool... if the reduction from 10coins every 21 hours if you bothered to battle to 1 pokecoin per hour is not blatant enough.. now they selll max revives and max pots in the shop.


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more than 1 hour.. U got 1 coin so got notification.
I collected quite a lot today. smile.gif
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sniper on the roof I totally agree. It doesn't matter How strong or how good you are. And whoever ones out with a best defender n best attacker list won't make any diff. If they were to tweak it and allow attackers to have a fighting chance, at least no complains.. Something like more motivation reduction based on cp of mon selected ( like how prescribing used to work).

They may have just killed off the game.
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QUOTE(thirty6whoisit @ Jun 23 2017, 05:48 PM)
sniper on the roof I totally agree. It doesn't matter How strong or how good you are. And whoever  ones out with a best defender n best attacker list won't make any diff. If they were to tweak it and allow attackers to have a fighting chance, at least no complains.. Something like more motivation reduction based on cp of mon selected ( like how prescribing used to work).

They may have just killed off the game.
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 23 2017, 05:01 PM)
Firstly... I was hyped just like everyone else but my first battle ended up with app crash. So first impression was bad.

And its awful for players in an area dominated by different team.

Like this morning I arrive at the office earlier because I tried to take this new gym nearby. Battled for awhile and then soome other likeminded folks arrived so we tok kok while battle.

1 guy was instinct while another 2 guy was valor like me. Battled for dunno how long di but mons keep getting topped up until all of us gave up. In the previous system, we would've long taken down a blissey stack di.

Then the battling itself feels boring and un-involving with health bar going up and down all the time. Didn't Niantic say they're not fixing the death loop as the update will fix it?

Death loop can be anticipated and worked around but the current state of gym battling is like the health bar/charge bar is going all over the place.. up and down. Never in any point of time I can be sure of how much damage I dealt or taken.

It's more frustrating rather than challenging.

Pls don't take it as bragging.. it's not...but I didn't even bother to pick attackers.. just autoselect and never once I felt that I need more than 2 mons to complete one round.

But its frustrating cos no matter how many times I clear the defenders... they just get fed berries and more defenders being added in.

Last time cheaters can stagnate gyms but even lowly solo players like myself could take them down but now can't even dent it.

By the way, that near office gym is still standing with the same mons inside and forever close to full motivation meter.

While my motivation meter is close to empty.

Oh.. and lastly... you know I don't really care about coins and I'm glad to shell out real $$ whenever I feel like it.

This update made me feel like I'm being made a fool... if the reduction from 10coins every 21 hours if you bothered to battle to 1 pokecoin per hour is not blatant enough.. now they selll max revives and max pots in the shop.
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I agree with you. I think many trainers will feel the same. It's totally unplayable if you're in an area dominant by rival team with spoofer running riot.

Expect another gym "readjustment " from them soon.
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well just the "1hour = 1coin" ady kill the game play (or atleast to me)
last time i used to walk drive around my place before work to get coins lvl3 old gym (3mons) can be solo easily...
but now just 1 mon need around 5 round to take down

as for the maintenance damn!!! today on leave stay home i have to open the app once like every 1 or 2 hours. talk about last time event no life, this lagi no life lol

and if you location full of other team, u pretty much doomed coz a 6 mons gym is close to impossible to solo and if the owner is nearby keep feeding lagi "fun"

ggwp naintic


well there goes our free coins, i guess will quit gym and wait for raid
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QUOTE(1qaz1qaz @ Jun 23 2017, 06:26 PM)
well just the "1hour = 1coin" ady kill the game play (or atleast to me)
last time i used to walk drive around my place before work to get coins lvl3 old gym (3mons) can be solo easily...
but now just 1 mon need around 5 round to take down

as for the maintenance damn!!! today on leave stay home i have to open the app once like every 1 or 2 hours. talk about last time event no life, this lagi no life lol

and if you location full of other team, u pretty much doomed coz a 6 mons gym is close to impossible to solo and if the owner is nearby keep feeding lagi "fun"

ggwp naintic
well there goes our free coins, i guess will quit gym and wait for raid
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Same here......need about 1 hour to take down 6 mons gym.....kinda boring. If got people keep feeding all those 6 mons like 1qaz1qaz says..... sweat.gif Win cant straight away take the coin and have to wait mininum 1 hour for 1 coin......is 1 coin sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
And some more my place full with blue team......red got 1 or 2 la....yellow.......alamak...today didnt see any yellow gym. I solo bring down 1 blue gym and put a yellow mon.....not even can last for 1 hour sweat.gif

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QUOTE(mulut99 @ Jun 23 2017, 06:58 PM)
Same here......need about 1 hour to take down 6 mons gym.....kinda boring. If got people keep feeding all those 6 mons like 1qaz1qaz says..... sweat.gif  Win cant straight away take the coin and have to wait mininum 1 hour for 1 coin......is 1 coin sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
And some more my place full with blue team......red got 1 or 2 la....yellow.......alamak...today didnt see any yellow gym. I solo bring down 1 blue gym and put a yellow mon.....not even can last for 1 hour sweat.gif
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I hate to say it, but of all the ppl working in niantic are there any hardcore players? I seriously wonder who provides them with input and tests the functions.


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QUOTE(mulut99 @ Jun 23 2017, 06:58 PM)
Same here......need about 1 hour to take down 6 mons gym.....kinda boring. If got people keep feeding all those 6 mons like 1qaz1qaz says..... sweat.gif  Win cant straight away take the coin and have to wait mininum 1 hour for 1 coin......is 1 coin sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
And some more my place full with blue team......red got 1 or 2 la....yellow.......alamak...today didnt see any yellow gym. I solo bring down 1 blue gym and put a yellow mon.....not even can last for 1 hour sweat.gif
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ya la today i take one gym with 5 mons
dafuq i kill, they feed
then i give them them %$^&$^ face, they just smile rolleyes.gif , i doh.gif

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I hate to say it, but of all the ppl working in niantic are there any hardcore players? I seriously wonder who provides them with input and tests the functions.
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The beauty of it all is that they pissed off alot of players during gen1 launch with the lagfest among other thing.

And now theyre doing the same in whats supposed to bring back players. Lagfest 2.0 + added bonus of pissing off existing players.


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Just collected 15 coins so far..felt like has battled for 150 coins  😓

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I dont mind if hard battle.....at least like old style....give 10 coins after sitting in the gym, like this will be fun. Battle so hard no even can get 1 coin like what i did with my yellow team. 1 hour kicking all 6 mons.....less than 30 min.....kicked out and no coin earn.
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I think most of you have know this before but I'm still going to rant anyway.

I just did my first gym battle under the new gym system. I went solo and attack the gym with 6 mons. They were not very powerful one. Highest one CP2k+ dragonite should be easy right? So I fight, wow need so many rounds to lower the CP. Never mind, soon after 4 rounds left 4 mons and the CP also almost 0 I smile already. Then suddenly all the CP full again plus a new 3k CP Snorlax some more! Some bugger went to feed them all and put his mon inside while I was halfway through! WTF la.... WTF I gave up!

For all it's worth, I think the new gym system makes it fair for newcomers to put their mon inside. Otherwise if still the old style, newcomer will never get the chance to conquer gym. But it is too unfair for player to be able to feed the mon halfway through a battle. At least disable the feeding during a gym attack.

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I hate to say it, but of all the ppl working in niantic are there any hardcore players? I seriously wonder who provides them with input and tests the functions.
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Very simple explanation. The ppl working there themselves are spoofers, hence this new system to easily enable them to spoof back into gym to keep feeding.
As u can see. Spoofer easily dominating the gyms now, while the genuine players gave up, including yours truly 😡

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Raid is online.
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Tomorrow gonna look for Raid Boss and try it out bruce.gif but solo i think real hard to win sad.gif

Lol....defending gym also got medal but i didnt defend a gym for 10 hours hmm.gif ? How it calculate? All defending gym time add together maybe hmm.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(mulut99 @ Jun 24 2017, 12:40 AM)
Raid is online.
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Tomorrow gonna look for Raid Boss and try it out bruce.gif but solo i think real hard to win sad.gif

Lol....defending gym also got medal but i didnt defend a gym for 10 hours hmm.gif ? How it calculate? All defending gym time add together maybe hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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So spoofers are still running wild even with the new update???

These spoofers really tak da malu ar. Usually the gyms in my area all 3k over Pokémon even blissey 3k. But after update I see all Pokémon in the gym only 2.5k and the player is like level 36-39. Stupid spoofers still dare to show themselves.
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what niantic did right
1. access bag to give revive and potions at the gym screen
2. shows pokemon health at the gym remotely (even though not as easy as simply choosing the defending pokemon from the pokemon bag)
3. placing pokestops in gym as well
4. maps of gym we're holding (but poor res map?)
5. Encourage team play when you can give berries to fellow team Pokémon

what niantic did wrong
1. can't see where pokemon is defending by just selecting the defending pokemon from the pokemon bag)
2. too easy to put all 6 pokemon at the gym (?)
3. quite easy to defeat pokemon at gym now but have too many rounds (1 pokemon at the gym took like 5 rounds to defeat)
4. berry feeding during attack is unfair
5. bug "cant put pokemon coz gym under attack" when it's not.
6. Stardust gain too little (20 stardust per berries)
7. Gym took longer to load

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new update: 1 coin per 10 minutes per pokemon but max 50 coins per day....

now I don't know which is worse.... sad.gif
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jun 24 2017, 05:02 AM)
new update: 1 coin per 10 minutes per pokemon but max 50 coins per day....

now I don't know which is worse.... sad.gif
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Ok what........50coin per day per pokemon.

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Ok what........50coin per day per pokemon.
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raid in 2 hours at nearby gym!!
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Ok what........50coin per day per pokemon.
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1 coin per 10 minutes per pokemon but max 50 coins per day....

i.e. Max 50 coins per day regardless number of pokemons!!

if you've 1 pokemon that stays for 8.3333 hrs, then yes, you get 50 coins.
if you've 2 pokemons that stay for 1 hours, then 1 coin x 6 x 2 pokemons = 12 coins.

if you're used to earning more than 50 coins every 21 hrs, then it's a bad news. Now, to buy a 150 coins incubator takes at least 3 days. sad.gif
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you got raids nearby kah?? mine still says no raids nearby.
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raid in 2 hours at nearby gym!!
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Same here
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jun 24 2017, 09:21 AM)
1 coin per 10 minutes per pokemon but max 50 coins per day....

i.e. Max 50 coins per day regardless number of pokemons!!

if you've 1 pokemon that stays for 8.3333 hrs, then yes, you get 50 coins.
if you've 2 pokemons that stay for 1 hours, then 1 coin x 6 x 2 pokemons = 12 coins.

if you're used to earning more than 50 coins every 21 hrs, then it's a bad news. Now, to buy a 150 coins incubator takes at least 3 days. sad.gif
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I think players earning more than 50 coins every 21 hours are a minority. Now the gyms are more accessible to others who get 0 coins previously. It is a very welcome change to many players.

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Same here
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Wah level 3. Nearest to me is level 2. Same time. Worldwide event kah?

EDIT: Hmmm 3 raids near me. Is this like available for many gyms or what.

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2 raids starting later. Lvl 2 & 3 respectively....
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TSOM sniper on the roof and everyone else...

Just sharing latest on raids in ss2. Crazy...
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Subang Jaya also
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the raid level is for how high the cp or what?
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how does it work?? you've to enter the gym before the countdown ends??

or can we decide after we've seen who is the raid boss??
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Guys, my motivation to play gyms now purely to hit medals.
I'm not trying to brag, but if lucky n ppl help still possible. Rewards ridiculous though.
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is it true that if you give berries to the pokemon, you will get a candy of the pokemon?

saw some said that in reddit, but not sure if legit or scam.
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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Jun 24 2017, 10:03 AM)
is it true that if you give berries to the pokemon, you will get a candy of the pokemon?

saw some said that in reddit, but not sure if legit or scam.
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This morning I viewed a gym, fed Blissey (got a Chansey candy), fed a few others like Dragonite and Snorlax but no candy. Not sure how it work. Maybe first mon fed in gym? Maybe first mon fed per day?
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QUOTE(mulut99 @ Jun 24 2017, 09:58 AM)
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Nice! From where I sit in KL, I see five: level 1, 1, 1, 2, 3. I will go to the one with most people and hope to win biggrin.gif

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is it true that if you give berries to the pokemon, you will get a candy of the pokemon?

saw some said that in reddit, but not sure if legit or scam.
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I read about it, but I tried lots of time yest.. My mons other ppl mons, diff types of mons. I didn't get.. Dunno how its decided.
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QUOTE(Dannyl @ Jun 24 2017, 10:08 AM)
Nice!  From where I sit in KL, I see five:  level 1, 1, 1, 2, 3.  I will go to the one with most people and hope to win biggrin.gif
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Go to Level 4, otherwise wasted pass
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Go to Level 4, otherwise wasted pass
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Go to Level 4, otherwise wasted pass
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the level stands for?
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TSOM sniper on the roof and everyone else...

Just sharing latest on raids in ss2. Crazy...
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Raided alredy. Got a FS/OH flareon. Its like an evolved egg hatch.

Met 3 valorians there and took down the next gym together. All live nearby so we'll be defending it today
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Raided alredy. Got a FS/OH flareon. Its like an evolved egg hatch.

Met 3 valorians there and took down the next gym together. All live nearby so we'll be defending it today
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Nice. Maybe try later. Morning busy with errands. Sigh.. Hopefully still got.
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Raid list now: 1, 1, 2, 2, 4

One of the 2 is nearby the 4 so heading there soon laugh.gif
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QUOTE(segiempat @ Jun 24 2017, 10:16 AM)
Go to Level 4, otherwise wasted pass
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Don't have level 4 sad.gif

Level 3 beside major road, dunno how to stop.

Guess have to settle for level 2 sad.gif

I wonder how hard it is to beat the mon.
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QUOTE(Dannyl @ Jun 24 2017, 10:38 AM)
Don't have level 4 sad.gif

Level 3 beside major road, dunno how to stop.

Guess have to settle for level 2 sad.gif

I wonder how hard it is to beat the mon.
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Protip.. use high dps mons instead of trying to tank it out. I battled flareon only (2 person) but almost time out.
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Protip.. use high dps mons instead of trying to tank it out. I battled flareon only (2 person) but almost time out.
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yours was level what? how high the cp?
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yours was level what? how high the cp?
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21K Flareon which became 1.6K after caught. As said earlier, raid pokemons caught is like hatching evolved pokemon egg. Same CP and IV range.
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Great news!!!!

Update: There have now been 2 silent changes to coin accrual in the new system:
Coins are now granted 6x more frequently: in 10 minute increments, rather than hourly
Gym coin earnings are now capped at 50 coins/day
It's 1 coin per 10 mins now.



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can i go in, see who's the raid boss and come out if i dont want, while preserving my raid pass?
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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Jun 24 2017, 11:05 AM)
can i go in, see who's the raid boss and come out if i dont want, while preserving my raid pass?
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If raid already ongoing... you can see from nearby.

You don't necessarily need to be there when it start... you can go later also.
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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Jun 24 2017, 11:05 AM)
can i go in, see who's the raid boss and come out if i dont want, while preserving my raid pass?
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Iinm, you can see the boss once the egg hatched just by looking at the nearby raid screen, and you can then decide to join fighting to defeat it or not.

No need to be at the gym itself, no need to use the pass. Just be nearby.
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If raid already ongoing... you can see from nearby.

You don't necessarily need to be there when it start... you can go later also.
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Iinm, you can see the boss once the egg hatched just by looking at the nearby raid screen, and you can then decide to join fighting to defeat it or not.

No need to be at the gym itself, no need to use the pass. Just be nearby.
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ok, experienced it myself. egg cracked and saw the weezing on top, didnt join the raid. laugh.gif
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Done with Lvl 2....dpt Muk CP 1522 laugh.gif

4 person raided included me n my bro laugh.gif

Got 2 RC biggrin.gif

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ok, experienced it myself. egg cracked and saw the weezing on top, didnt join the raid. laugh.gif
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how to get TM? Is it guaranteed everytime you win against the raid boss?
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One time usage only.

Lvl 4 raid dpt cp1860 Snorlax, 25k cp with 18ppl raided laugh.gif

Exeggutor from another Lvl 2 raid, 12k cp raided by myself & my bro

Got 1 Fast TM & Charge TM each + 2 more RC

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juat notice in the raid pass description, it says that you will only have 1 free pass if you dont have it already.

so free raid pass cant be accumulated?
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One time usage only.

Lvl 4 raid dpt cp1860 Snorlax laugh.gif

Exeggutor from another Lvl 2 raid.

Got 1 Fast TM & Charge TM each + 2 more RC
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how many passes you bought? have you tried using the TM?
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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Jun 24 2017, 12:09 PM)
juat notice in the raid pass description, it says that you will only have 1 free pass if you dont have it already.

so free raid pass cant be accumulated?
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how many passes you bought? have you tried using the TM?
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No need rush one, saw few level 4 just at PJ area. Got one Snorlax (84%) and another Machamp (84%) using yesterday and today free pass. Quite easy to take down coz both got quite of players around. Try joining on time if you want more bonuses though

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Great news!!!!

Update: There have now been 2 silent changes to coin accrual in the new system:
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It's 1 coin per 10 mins now.

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so is real la?
then i only have to maintain 1 gym for 9 hours?
well then thats easy, my motivation is back
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Was going for the Level 2 Muk a Lot 10 then saw the Level 4 at Pavilion going to hatch in 15 minutes, so waited. Was a Snorlax, but mine is 77.8% Lick/Earthquake, worst movesets ever sad.gif does anyone know if we also get the Pokemon candy? Not the rare candy. I didn't notice.

The TMs are great, now can change movesets for those high IV Pokemons liao!

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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Jun 24 2017, 11:05 AM)
can i go in, see who's the raid boss and come out if i dont want, while preserving my raid pass?
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 24 2017, 11:09 AM)
If raid already ongoing... you can see from nearby.

You don't necessarily need to be there when it start... you can go later also.
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i think the system suck
i know is at 25k snorlax
but im not sure who is there to help [hidden legit(inside house etc) or spoofers]
i cant check whos there coz if u wanna see how many players are there u need to go to the waiting lobby(must use pass) if after the countdown finish no other player join u
well ggwp u wasted a raid pass since u cant solo
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QUOTE(Dannyl @ Jun 24 2017, 12:51 PM)
Was going for the Level 2 Muk a Lot 10 then saw the Level 4 at Pavilion going to hatch in 15 minutes, so waited.  Was a Snorlax, but mine is 77.8% Lick/Earthquake, worst movesets ever sad.gif  does anyone know if we also get the Pokemon candy?  Not the rare candy.  I didn't notice.

The TMs are great, now can change movesets for those high IV Pokemons liao!
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i did the snorlax at ss2 damn jam weiiii
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i did the snorlax at ss2 damn jam weiiii
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Try joining on time if you want more bonuses though
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joining on time?? meaning have to join before the countdown ends?? cannot join half way??


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well ggwp u wasted a raid pass since u cant solo
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but solo is more challenging... if 20ppl, can finish in less than 15 seconds.

the other guy here battled with just 2 ppl .... I think if can bring 6 pokemons, should be no problem.
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joining on time?? meaning have to join before the countdown ends?? cannot join half way??
but solo is more challenging... if 20ppl, can finish in less than 15 seconds.

the other guy here battled with just 2 ppl .... I think if can bring 6 pokemons, should be no problem.
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what if u lose? and u can only use one pass per day (not sure u can retry)
then buy pass?
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come over kelana jaya park. I'm here waiting for level 4.
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what if u lose? and u can only use one pass per day (not sure u can retry)
then buy pass?
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Can retry without needing extra pass

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Got level 4 raid coming in over an hour here too. Go home rest first then. Lol. Hope it's blissey or snorlax or something.

Anyone have a list of what kind of Pokémon coming from level 4 raid?
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QUOTE(Dannyl @ Jun 24 2017, 12:51 PM)
Was going for the Level 2 Muk a Lot 10 then saw the Level 4 at Pavilion going to hatch in 15 minutes, so waited.  Was a Snorlax, but mine is 77.8% Lick/Earthquake, worst movesets ever sad.gif  does anyone know if we also get the Pokemon candy?  Not the rare candy.  I didn't notice.

The TMs are great, now can change movesets for those high IV Pokemons liao!
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I was there and went for both! biggrin.gif

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what if u lose? and u can only use one pass per day (not sure u can retry)
then buy pass?
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Can retry without needing extra pass
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Can retry without needing extra pass
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but still i prefer if we can view the player lobby without the pass
and if we wanna proceed then only click the pass

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Got level 4 raid coming in over an hour here too. Go home rest first then. Lol. Hope it's blissey or snorlax or something.

Anyone have a list of what kind of Pokémon coming from level 4 raid?
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I hit a tyranitar level 4 and its tough, with only 2 of us.

i need a team of 8 minimum.
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where is the place with most crowd raid ? shopping centre ?
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where is the place with most crowd raid ? shopping centre ?
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where is the place with most crowd raid ? shopping centre ?
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how soon can you see the available raid???

2 hours before? 4 hours before??
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how soon can you see the available raid???

2 hours before? 4 hours before??
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how soon can you see the available raid???

2 hours before? 4 hours before??
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My raid screen showing one starting @ 15:10 hmm.gif
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Btw it seems like when a raid is going on at a gym, you can't defeat that gym. It's just inaccessible. So free free their Pokémon is safe for an hour. Lol
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i wish there is one more tyra at the crowded, not like the place around taman. no one to raid.
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QUOTE(mitkey06 @ Jun 24 2017, 01:36 PM)
i wish there is one more tyra at the crowded, not like the place around taman. no one to raid.
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No blissey?
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how long is each raid boss available??

let's say it starts at 10am. What time does it end??
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how long is each raid boss available??

let's say it starts at 10am. What time does it end??
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1 hour

QUOTE(TSOM @ Jun 24 2017, 01:30 PM)
how soon can you see the available raid???

2 hours before? 4 hours before??
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Mine shows 2 hours.

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1 hour
Mine shows 2 hours.
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thanks!! I saw mine now. Exactly 2 hours before.

but only lvl2. I'll wait for another lvl3 or lvl4 gym...
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Solo raid Magmar [i think is lvl2]....should be easy for other player also. Use 2 pokemons.
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I think solo should be no problem. Put 6 grass/electric type mons to deal with it bruce.gif

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Second raid. Got 2x charge TM.

Made difficult cos idiot teammates us blisseys and snorlax

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I need some clarification...

if it starts at 10am, that means the raid boss will be gone at 11am right?
does it matter when I join the raid??
if other ppl are battling, do I have to wait until they finish??

if go solo, do we need to battle a few times until its CP reaches zero, like a normal gym battle?? Or just 1 battle is enough??
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jun 24 2017, 03:50 PM)
I need some clarification...

if it starts at 10am, that means the raid boss will be gone at 11am right?
does it matter when I join the raid??
if other ppl are battling, do I have to wait until they finish??

if go solo, do we need to battle a few times until its CP reaches zero, like a normal gym battle?? Or just 1 battle is enough??
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U can join anytime before the raid time end. U need to wait for 1.5 minute [if i m not mistaken] to wait for other player. If no player join then solo.
1 battle until the boss HP go to 0. So, choose the correct pokemon to fight it. And 1 battle per entry pass. If u loose then u need another pass to play again and free pass is 1 battle per day. U also can choose private team if u bring your friends along if too many poeple are playing.
Is very simple....u go there try 1 time sure u will understand how to works.
So....1 pass 1 battle.

1st i go choose a 25k CP blastoise and is solo.......play till time out also cant win. Mean i loose. I cant battle for the 2nd time. Need to buy another pass if i wanna play for the 2nd time.

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My Vapo has returned after 4h14m  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(mulut99 @ Jun 24 2017, 04:05 PM)
U can join anytime before the raid time end. U need to wait for 1.5 minute [if i m not mistaken] to wait for other player. If no player join then solo.
1 battle until the boss HP go to 0. So, choose the correct pokemon to fight it. And 1 battle per entry pass. If u loose then u need another pass to play again and free pass is 1 battle per day. U also can choose private team if u bring your friends along if too many poeple are playing.
Is very simple....u go there try 1 time sure u will understand how to works.
So....1 pass 1 battle.

1st i go choose a 25k CP blastoise and is solo.......play till time out also cant win. Mean i loose. I cant battle for the 2nd time. Need to buy another pass if i wanna play for the 2nd time.
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Nope. Single pass can battle again. I think u couldnt battle again bcos slots full i suppose.
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Nope. Single pass can battle again. I think u couldnt battle again bcos slots full i suppose.
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Yup. Just now raided a Lvl 3 Vapo (CP 16996).... lost (time out) at 1st attempt coz my bro network issue didn't manage to go in.... then I went in the 2nd time using the same pass I activated.

So far today:

Vapo CP 1752 / 77% / WG-HP
Egg CP 1631 / 86% / BS-SB
Snor CP 1860 / 77% / Lick-Heavy Slam
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I found another annoyance.. not a deal breaker though.

Took down 2 full gyms but just as i finish.. freakin egg pop up. Cant put in my mon... Twice!!

But i still take out the last mon lah.. out of spite
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Just wasted a Premium pass battling Tyranitar with 6 players..Time out at the very last line of its health bar. No thank you to the two smart players who uses Blisseys..cant rejoin battle coz raid time over 😓
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Just wasted a Premium pass battling Tyranitar with 6 players..Time out at the very last line of its health bar. No thank you to the two smart players who uses Blisseys..cant rejoin battle coz raid time over 😓
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Some ppl dont understand specimen stats wan.
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Exactly.
Some ppl dont understand specimen stats wan.
Btw... What did u use?
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But its fun playing and cursing the other 2 players lol

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Nope. Single pass can battle again. I think u couldnt battle again bcos slots full i suppose.
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Ohh...maybe u are right.
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So far today:

Vapo CP 1752 / 77% / WG-HP
Egg CP 1631 / 86% / BS-SB
Snor CP 1860 / 77% / Lick-Heavy Slam
Muk CP 1522 / 84% / Infestation-Gunk Shot
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Snor CP 1870 / 82% / ZH-HS
Jolteon CP 1511 / 77% / TS-TB
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tooks quite a few round to get it done. no TM or whatsoever. sad.gif
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Fought lvl 4 Raid Boss Lapras just now.

Tried to fight with another person that arrived later. Only managed to damage 50% before time out.

Luckily another 4 more players arrived. Coordinate with them and enter together for easier fight.

Received 1x Fast TM and 1x Charged TM
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QUOTE(mulut99 @ Jun 24 2017, 04:05 PM)
Is very simple....u go there try 1 time sure u will understand how to works.
So....1 pass 1 battle.
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Nope. Single pass can battle again. I think u couldnt battle again bcos slots full i suppose.
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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Jun 24 2017, 04:47 PM)
Yup. Just now raided a Lvl 3 Vapo (CP 16996).... lost (time out) at 1st attempt coz my bro network issue didn't manage to go in.... then I went in the 2nd time using the same pass I activated.
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Thanks for the info. Yeah, can rejoin the same gym.

Congrats to you folks who won your first gym raid. As for me, I lost. cry.gif

I was the only player there. So, just solo against 19xxxCP Jolteon. I don't have double ground move pokemons. I even max out my 91% IV tyranitar and 100% D9 ... cannot finish in time. cry.gif

I don't mind that Jolteon as I got 100% IV TS/TB Jolteon. I want the TM and XP. cry.gif
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if solo, can win against lvl2 or lvl1 raid boss?
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try to raid a lvl 4 laprass (around 23k)
but only me and my sister, at the end lost doh.gif

btw heard that there's a chance to catch the raid boss if manage to kill it right ?
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Thanks for the info. Yeah, can rejoin the same gym.

Congrats to you folks who won your first gym raid. As for me, I lost. cry.gif

I was the only player there. So, just solo against 19xxxCP Jolteon. I don't have double ground move pokemons. I even max out my 91% IV tyranitar and 100% D9 ... cannot finish in time. cry.gif

I don't mind that Jolteon as I got 100% IV TS/TB Jolteon. I want the TM and XP. cry.gif
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Just curious.. what did u use to fight that jolteon? How many cp?
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Thanks for the info. Yeah, can rejoin the same gym.

Congrats to you folks who won your first gym raid. As for me, I lost. cry.gif

I was the only player there. So, just solo against 19xxxCP Jolteon. I don't have double ground move pokemons. I even max out my 91% IV tyranitar and 100% D9 ... cannot finish in time. cry.gif

I don't mind that Jolteon as I got 100% IV TS/TB Jolteon. I want the TM and XP. cry.gif
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Just curious.. what did u use to fight that jolteon? How many cp?
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Just now raided a Lvl 3 Jolteon (CP 19883) together with my bro.

Managed to kill it with my 2nd mon (Rhydon, 2427, ms = MS/SE) after it killed my 1st Rhydon (2437, ms = MS/SE).

Just noticed there is NO more new raid appearing now, looks like there is some sort of cut off time set by Niantic? hmm.gif

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Just curious.. what did u use to fight that jolteon? How many cp?
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D9 34xx DT/OR
Tyranitar B/SE 34xx
Rhydon SE 30xx (have to use rhydon..... my only powered up rhydon).
D9 30xx DT/H
D9 30xx DT/HB
Exegg CP26xx ZH/SB

I tried changing different pokemons a couple of times...
it's either K.O. or time out.

there were also some glitches... not so smooth.

edit: if got another player, i.e. 2 persons, then surely can win!!
Current lvl36.

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it doesn't matter if its lvl1, 2, 3 or 4, will still get TM right?

then no point fighting a lvl3 alone unless it's a rare pokemon.
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it doesn't matter if its lvl1, 2, 3 or 4, will still get TM right?

then no point fighting a lvl3 alone unless it's a rare pokemon.
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Its random and not every raid you will get TM smile.gif

I did 6 raids today and only got it in 2 of the raid, (one got 1 fast, 1 charge, another got 2 fast)

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WOW. TM let me change the charge move. it allows the cycle until the one you want.

so change the VAP to HP. cos the raid boss is tyra.
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if solo, can win against lvl2 or lvl1 raid boss?
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Possible.

Just came back taking down some gym....need to earn coins tongue.gif .
The story is.......
Successful take down 6 mons gym. Put my 1st pokemon successful. Then i put my 2nd account mon and it says "the gym in battle, pls try again later"........later on in 1-2 min i try again. The gym is full blink.gif . There is nobody there. Got hantu? blink.gif shocking.gif rclxub.gif sweat.gif

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Possible.

Just came back taking down some gym....need to earn coins tongue.gif .
The story is.......
Successful take down 6 mons gym. Put my 1st pokemon successful. Then i put my 2nd account mon and it says "the gym in battle, pls try again later"........later on in 1-2 min i try again. The gym is full blink.gif . There is nobody there. Got hantu? blink.gif  shocking.gif  rclxub.gif  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jun 24 2017, 10:23 PM)
D9 34xx DT/OR
Tyranitar B/SE 34xx
Rhydon SE 30xx (have to use rhydon..... my only powered up rhydon).
D9 30xx DT/H
D9 30xx DT/HB
Exegg CP26xx ZH/SB

I tried changing different pokemons a couple of times...
it's either K.O. or time out.

there were also some glitches... not so smooth.

edit: if got another player, i.e. 2 persons, then surely can win!!
Current lvl36.
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IMO... its like fighting blissey... dont waste time changing pokemons. And half your lineup takes SE damage from jolteon.

Dunno lah... haven't tried Jolteon yet.

On another note... I think we can stop wasting resource of defensive pokemons di.. there's very minimal advantage of using strong defenders in the current gym mechanics.

Already stopped walking blissey after so many months.

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The spoofers force is still very strong. I see 1 blissey near my house the health never drop at all for so many hours. Even at this 3-4 am still haven't drop a bit.

Why can't they just stop playing and play other games like dota or something. The really stinking the game up....
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IMO... its like fighting blissey... dont waste time changing pokemons. And half your lineup takes SE damage from jolteon.

Dunno lah... haven't tried Jolteon yet.

On another note... I think we can stop wasting resource of defensive pokemons di.. there's very minimal advantage of using strong defenders in the current gym mechanics.

Already stopped walking blissey after so many months.
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QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Jun 25 2017, 03:46 AM)
The spoofers force is still very strong. I see 1 blissey near my house the health never drop at all for so many hours. Even at this 3-4 am still haven't drop a bit.

Why can't they just stop playing and play other games like dota or something. The really stinking the game up....
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Guess it will slowly change, since there is no incentive to put a high-powered defender and last for days in the gym.
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 25 2017, 02:56 AM)
IMO... its like fighting blissey... dont waste time changing pokemons. And half your lineup takes SE damage from jolteon.

Dunno lah... haven't tried Jolteon yet.

On another note... I think we can stop wasting resource of defensive pokemons di.. there's very minimal advantage of using strong defenders in the current gym mechanics.

Already stopped walking blissey after so many months.
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IMHO 100 coins for premium pass is 'worth' more than all the other stuff in the shop. You get fully evolved high IV mons of your choosing plus extra cool stuffs like TM, Rare candy, Gold berries etc.

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 25 2017, 02:56 AM)
IMO... its like fighting blissey... dont waste time changing pokemons. And half your lineup takes SE damage from jolteon.

Dunno lah... haven't tried Jolteon yet.
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actually not SE, just normal since Dragon resists electric while flying is effective.
When I said change, I don't mean changing pokemons during the battle. There's no time at all. I just dodge charged moves.
I only changed pokemons when I lost completely. Anyway, it was not possible. 19xxx CP cannot be handled alone even if lvl 40 unless you've at least 3k double ground moves mon. In this case, each can tackle 6k CP due to type effectiveness.
6k x 3 = 18000CP ..... even then you also have time limit.

so what to power up now?? sad.gif

QUOTE(segiempat @ Jun 25 2017, 07:57 AM)
Yup, Attackers is main focus now.

IMHO 100 coins for premium pass is 'worth' more than all the other stuff in the shop. You get fully evolved high IV mons of your choosing plus extra cool stuffs like TM, Rare candy, Gold berries etc.
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then what do I do with my charged TM?? sad.gif
I don't know what to evolve and what to change moveset to change already, since nothing is important anymore.
Should I change 100% DT/O Gyarados to DT/HP??
or 2800CP water pulse Vaporeon to Aqua tail or HP???
96% 29xx CP Blissey ZH/HB to DG?
89% 24xx CP Lapras IS/B to IceBeam??

I can't believe I'm saying this but I hope one of my Pokemon comes back in the next 24 hours. If it doesn't, then no 50 coins for me. Still got 3 pokemons sitting for more than 24 hours.

btw, I got a 100% lvl3 Dratini. I wish there were a CP re-roll feature so that it can be like lvl 20. cry.gif
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jun 25 2017, 08:34 AM)
then what do I do with my charged TM?? sad.gif
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TM focus on Attackers best movesets lor

I like how now I can finally place my non usual favourite mons in gym without worrying about stats and make the gym 'prettier' with diversity and at the same time focusing on powering up my best attackers for Raid boss instead of keeping bunch of lame non optimised prestigers.

On the coins side, i think Niantic need to introduce the Pokeflute item to recall mons Pied Piper-style 😅

Btw, has any one use Ditto to fight raid boss will its CP matches the boss??? 😆

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QUOTE(segiempat @ Jun 25 2017, 09:12 AM)
TM focus on Attackers best movesets lor

I like how now I can finally place my non usual favourite mons in gym without worrying about stats and make the gym 'prettier' with diversity and at the same time focusing on powering up my best attackers for Raid boss instead of keeping bunch of lame non optimised prestigers.

On the coins side, i think Niantic need to introduce the Pokeflute item to recall mons Pied Piper-style 😅

Btw, has any one use Ditto to fight raid boss will its CP matches the boss??? 😆
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Naw.. i think coming back only after being knocked out is fair.

Now still early in the game but later spoofers will do that for u.

Last night i stayed up late and found spoofers to be very active. Gyms being topped up at 4am with not a soul around.

Also just now i took a hard fought gym and a guy took me out and put in his D9...then out of nowhere suddenly full blue gym.

So out of spite i hit his D9 over and over again until its out while leaving the rest in (low on pots).
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had my very first experience in raid. level 4 lapras.

lost the 1st round, won the 2nd round. got berries and charged TM.

but seriously, who uses blissey to whack lapras? doh.gif and during the raid, it was super laggy, hp and charge power jumping up and down.
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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Jun 25 2017, 02:01 PM)
had my very first experience in raid. level 4 lapras.

lost the 1st round, won the 2nd round. got berries and charged TM.

but seriously, who uses blissey to whack lapras? doh.gif and during the raid, it was super laggy, hp and charge power jumping up and down.
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Exactly. A lot of folks do that.

Sometimes more raiders in the team also no use if they dont contribute enough dps.
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2 more addition:

Snor CP 1870 / 82% / ZH-HS
Jolteon CP 1511 / 77% / TS-TB
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At this rate you'll get the legendary pass it no time.. Lol

QUOTE(TSOM @ Jun 24 2017, 10:33 PM)
it doesn't matter if its lvl1, 2, 3 or 4, will still get TM right?

then no point fighting a lvl3 alone unless it's a rare pokemon.
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Its random bro. Not necessarily.

QUOTE(mitkey06 @ Jun 24 2017, 11:01 PM)
WOW. TM let me change the charge move. it allows the cycle until the one you want.

so change the VAP to HP. cos the raid boss is tyra.
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but each TM only change once right?


QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 25 2017, 02:56 AM)
IMO... its like fighting blissey... dont waste time changing pokemons. And half your lineup takes SE damage from jolteon.

Dunno lah... haven't tried Jolteon yet.

On another note... I think we can stop wasting resource of defensive pokemons di.. there's very minimal advantage of using strong defenders in the current gym mechanics.

Already stopped walking blissey after so many months.
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Tbh, since the gym rewards ain't that great, agreed. But If still want to pump defender then I would say keep it max at level 30. The decay rate is slower.

QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Jun 25 2017, 03:46 AM)
The spoofers force is still very strong. I see 1 blissey near my house the health never drop at all for so many hours. Even at this 3-4 am still haven't drop a bit.

Why can't they just stop playing and play other games like dota or something. The really stinking the game up....
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But if you are in same gym with spoilers, some of then actually help feed your mons... Lol

QUOTE(TSOM @ Jun 25 2017, 08:34 AM)
actually not SE, just normal since Dragon resists electric while flying is effective.
When I said change, I don't mean changing pokemons during the battle. There's no time at all. I just dodge charged moves.
I only changed pokemons when I lost completely. Anyway, it was not possible. 19xxx CP cannot be handled alone even if lvl 40 unless you've at least 3k double ground moves mon. In this case, each can tackle 6k CP due to type effectiveness.
6k x 3 = 18000CP ..... even then you also have time limit.

so what to power up now?? sad.gif
then what do I do with my charged TM?? sad.gif
I don't know what to evolve and what to change moveset to change already, since nothing is important anymore.
Should I change 100% DT/O Gyarados to DT/HP??
or 2800CP water pulse Vaporeon to Aqua tail or HP???
96% 29xx CP Blissey ZH/HB to DG?
89% 24xx CP Lapras IS/B to IceBeam??

I can't believe I'm saying this but I hope one of my Pokemon comes back in the next 24 hours. If it doesn't, then no 50 coins for me. Still got 3 pokemons sitting for more than 24 hours.

btw, I got a 100% lvl3 Dratini. I wish there were a CP re-roll feature so that it can be like lvl 20. cry.gif
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If you ever encounter jolteon as boss, not wise to use d9 bro. Better use rhydon golem n t9. Imo

Ur TM can use to get the db or d9.
Or can use to try get that best atk ms.. E.g.wg hp vape.

QUOTE(TSOM @ Jun 25 2017, 10:38 AM)
btw, has stardust award disappeared from gym?? sad.gif
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Stardust still got from gyms.. Just need to feed berry. Lol
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During Raid Boss, are you all still able see the yellow flash for dodging? I cant see the yellow flash because the Raid Boss is huge and the other pokemon blocking.
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QUOTE(mulut99 @ Jun 24 2017, 11:22 PM)
Possible.

Just came back taking down some gym....need to earn coins tongue.gif .
The story is.......
Successful take down 6 mons gym. Put my 1st pokemon successful. Then i put my 2nd account mon and it says "the gym in battle, pls try again later"........later on in 1-2 min i try again. The gym is full blink.gif . There is nobody there. Got hantu? blink.gif  shocking.gif  rclxub.gif  sweat.gif
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Wait exactly 10 minutes. Confirm ok.

If after 10 minutes the 'add Pokémon' button is still greyed out, it's a bug, you still can press it and put your Pokémon in the gym.

PS:
Lol I read your post again. Well that means the spoofer added Pokémon at the same time as your first Pokémon from your first account.

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QUOTE(lowyard @ Jun 25 2017, 03:39 PM)
Wait exactly 10 minutes. Confirm ok.

If after 10 minutes the 'add Pokémon' button is still greyed out, it's a bug, you still can press it and put your Pokémon in the gym.

PS:
Lol I read your post again. Well that means the spoofer added Pokémon at the same time as your first Pokémon from your first account.
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Should be....my 1st mons last from yesterday till now. Hearts all full including mine tongue.gif
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Just check back my gym.....look at those mons heart......all almost full since yesterday till now. I think i can earn 50 coins for today tongue.gif .....good also, spoofer help me tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif .
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QUOTE(lowyard @ Jun 25 2017, 03:39 PM)
Wait exactly 10 minutes. Confirm ok.

If after 10 minutes the 'add Pokémon' button is still greyed out, it's a bug, you still can press it and put your Pokémon in the gym.

PS:
Lol I read your post again. Well that means the spoofer added Pokémon at the same time as your first Pokémon from your first account.
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And then got new form of sniping. Spoofers wait till u battle until motivation almost zero.. then suddenly whole group of them join the fight and claim the gym. Definately not coincident... Last night i fought a lot of gyms during the popular "flying" time. Every gym also like that.
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QUOTE(mulut99 @ Jun 25 2017, 04:02 PM)
Just check back my gym.....look at those mons heart......all almost full since yesterday till now. I think i can earn 50 coins for today tongue.gif .....good also, spoofer help me tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif .
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The new system is memang like a gang turf war. None of the gym in my area will hold more than 30mins but if i go to my team area.. it'll hold for hours.

So much for casual player participation.

Right now im camping between 2 gyms that is gonna hatch lvl4 raid boss in an hour and half. Gonna freakin camp here feed berries..hahhaha
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QUOTE(thirty6whoisit @ Jun 25 2017, 03:05 PM)
If you ever encounter jolteon as boss, not wise to use d9 bro. Better use rhydon golem n t9. Imo
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I did. I was there for 45 minutes .... I tried all combinations.

Initially I tried 5 Rhydon + 1 Golem.... didn't make it in time. Could hardly took his half HP ....

So I had to use D9. Sometimes even charged moves I didn't dodge. Still not enough time.

conclusion: if single, don't attempt lvl 3 and lvl 4.

I tried yesterday single against Quilava, 5000CP. No problem! Can use half CP vaporeon still ok.
then against Snorlax. My group made it in one try. We were 6 but all use Machamp. The next group besides us failed and had to wait for more ppl to join.
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One question.. since raids only appear during daytime.. workdays how?
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One question.. since raids only appear during daytime.. workdays how?
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curi ular lol
or gym right on top of ur office


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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 25 2017, 04:47 PM)
One question.. since raids only appear during daytime.. workdays how?
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Exactly like how you catch rare mons during work last time, but much easier with hours of notice in advance 😅
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QUOTE(1qaz1qaz @ Jun 25 2017, 05:23 PM)
curi ular lol
or gym right on top of ur office
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QUOTE(segiempat @ Jun 25 2017, 06:22 PM)
Exactly like how you catch rare mons during work last time, but much easier with hours of notice in advance 😅
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I know lah..But if come out Ttar and nobody come how? laugh.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

But jokes aside... today was quite funny.

As posted earlier... I was camping near 2 lvl4. A couple minutes before hatch... 20-40 ppl start appearing.

When it catched a snorlax... half of them ciao. I haven't raid snorlax before so I went on and battled it with 12ppl... took it down very quick (ttar which is my first attacker HP is still in green).

Then the rombongan went to the next level 4 hatch.... a bunch of ppl arrived as well... hatched Blastoise and EVERYONE ciao. biggrin.gif

So moral of this lesson is... If raid boss is not Ttar, then prepare to go at it alone.

Edit: this might be anecdotal but the current speculation with the folks here is that if you enter and watch the egg hatch, the battle should be less laggy than if you come late and enter when it already hatched.

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I know lah..But if come out Ttar and nobody come how?  laugh.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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I have to went solo with Machamp today thinking there ll be at least another player. Was wrong nobody! I went crazy kamikaze with my troop of psychic Alakazam, Egg and Espeon. That dang thing left 5% before timeout.

I can't imagine when they release 30K CP Blissey for Level 5!
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QUOTE(segiempat @ Jun 25 2017, 09:12 AM)
Btw, has any one use Ditto to fight raid boss will its CP matches the boss??? 😆
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Just now my bro tested against Lapras. Only got 2.1K CP laugh.gif
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Just now my bro tested against Lapras. Only got 2.1K CP  laugh.gif
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How to know number of player in public group b4 join?

Was joined a raid 3 minutes after it was hatched, lag untill cant even select mon...
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 25 2017, 06:54 PM)
I know lah..But if come out Ttar and nobody come how?  laugh.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

But jokes aside... today was quite funny.

As posted earlier... I was camping near 2 lvl4. A couple minutes before hatch... 20-40 ppl start appearing.

When it catched a snorlax... half of them ciao. I haven't raid snorlax before so I went on and battled it with 12ppl... took it down very quick (ttar which is my first attacker HP is still in green).

Then the rombongan went to the next level 4 hatch.... a bunch of ppl arrived as well... hatched Blastoise and EVERYONE ciao. biggrin.gif

So moral of this lesson is... If raid boss is not Ttar, then prepare to go at it alone.

Edit: this might be anecdotal but the current speculation with the folks here is that if you enter and watch the egg hatch, the battle should be less laggy than if you come late and enter when it already hatched.
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well tbh all the raid boss i ady have a good candidate. dont feel like need a 2nd of them
only the drop is what i care about TM and golden berries the rest are rubbish.
ppl care about tyra coz rumors say it has higher chances to drop TM

since there is immunity u can solo a 20k tier 3 jolteon, so u pray it hatched that lo haha

QUOTE(segiempat @ Jun 25 2017, 07:00 PM)
I have to went solo with Machamp today thinking there ll be at least another player. Was wrong nobody! I went crazy kamikaze with my troop of psychic Alakazam, Egg and Espeon. That dang thing left 5% before timeout.

I can't imagine when they release 30K CP Blissey for Level 5!
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till date there is still no blissey yet
and i doubt it will over cp 25k since snorlax only 25k ish
if really got blissey i think it will drop at around 20-24k

QUOTE(Nikmon @ Jun 25 2017, 08:30 PM)
How to know number of player in public group b4 join?

Was joined a raid 3 minutes after it was hatched, lag untill cant even select mon...
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you wont know it until u click on in(=used the raid pass)
for legit player u can see with ur eye la, if spoofers u cant see it till u at the raid lobby

this is also i hate about the system kinda waste of pass, if that was a tier 4 raid boss, once u click in only found out only u or 2-3 ppl in there ggwp there goes your pass
to make u chances higher go to the raid like 10min b4 it hatch so u can join the 1st batch which usually more ppl
if really that bad no one join atleast u got 60min to find other to join u, try not to join the raid if the time only have like 10-15min remaining else u also waste ur pass.
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Tried out first solo.. Level 3 Machamp... No dodge.
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WHAT is the best use of TM fast and charge moves ?

what hav you done with TM ?
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QUOTE(mitkey06 @ Jun 25 2017, 09:07 PM)
WHAT is the best use of TM fast and charge moves ?

what hav you done with TM ?
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Changed 97% D9 with DT/HB to DT/Or

Changed 96% Lapras FB/HP to FB/Bz

Haven't decided on fast TM yet.
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I know everyone is hyped about raids, but putting a stupid question out there.. anybody chasing the gym and berry medals?
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Changed 97% D9 with DT/HB to DT/Or

Changed 96% Lapras FB/HP to FB/Bz

Haven't decided on fast TM yet.
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The tm award is totally random right? Is there any factor that determines if or not u get it?
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I know everyone is hyped about raids, but putting a stupid question out there.. anybody chasing the gym and berry medals?
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No need to chase... it'll come.

Since they're also pokestops. And that since I throw berries away anyway... might as well use it to feed.
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The tm award is totally random right? Is there any factor that determines if or not u get it?
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Higher level higher chance, level 4 almost certain got at least one, level 3 0.5, etc.

Saw one survey thread on reddit forgot link.
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QUOTE(segiempat @ Jun 25 2017, 07:00 PM)
I have to went solo with Machamp today thinking there ll be at least another player. Was wrong nobody! I went crazy kamikaze with my troop of psychic Alakazam, Egg and Espeon. That dang thing left 5% before timeout.

I can't imagine when they release 30K CP Blissey for Level 5!
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Tried out first solo.. Level 3 Machamp... No dodge.
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did you win while solo??

I saw Machamp too but dare not go solo. My Alakazam is not even max out...
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Put 3 TM. got a SE on Tyra. 1 on Vapor and from WP to AT. 1 on Blissey HB to PSY.
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QUOTE(1qaz1qaz @ Jun 25 2017, 08:41 PM)
well tbh all the raid boss i ady have a good candidate. dont feel like need a 2nd of them
only the drop is what i care about TM and golden berries the rest are rubbish.
ppl care about tyra coz rumors say it has higher chances to drop TM

this is also i hate about the system kinda waste of pass, if that was a tier 4 raid boss, once u click in only found out only u or 2-3 ppl in there ggwp there goes your pass
to make u chances higher go to the raid like 10min b4 it hatch so u can join the 1st batch which usually more ppl
if really that bad no one join atleast u got 60min to find other to join u, try not to join the raid if the time only have like 10-15min remaining else u also waste ur pass.
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Well.. i dont have 6 OP Ttars to use in case mew2 is released.

As for the pass.. u can always use eyeball mk1 to check if theres players around.
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 26 2017, 12:37 AM)
Well.. i dont have 6 OP Ttars to use in case mew2 is released.

As for the pass.. u can always use eyeball mk1 to check if theres players around.
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haha if u mean 6 i also dont have la haha sweat.gif doh.gif
maybe other dark type lo
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haha if u mean 6 i also dont have la haha  sweat.gif  doh.gif
maybe other dark type lo
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Others not bulky enough as theres wasted time between attacker fainting and the next one coming in.

Anyway.. kesian team instinct. Didnt see a single yellow gym on the way to work...so imba
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 26 2017, 08:49 AM)
Others not bulky enough as theres wasted time between attacker fainting and the next one coming in.

Anyway.. kesian team instinct. Didnt see a single yellow gym on the way to work...so imba
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umbreon not bad
low hp but tanky
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umbreon not bad
low hp but tanky
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did you win while solo??

I saw Machamp too but dare not go solo. My Alakazam is not even max out...
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This may be helpful for those unfamiliar with raid mons counters. Use the Raid Tool also for more details

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can anyone know where are the raid bosses - blissey, tyranitar and dragonite currently in now? Just wanted to capture one for myself so badly. For pokedex entry too.
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can anyone know where are the raid bosses - blissey, tyranitar and dragonite currently in now? Just wanted to capture one for myself so badly. For pokedex entry too.
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just won Lapras about 21k. its charge move like crazy. beat with 6 team members. the last 2 came in all use blissey. after won lapras, got a 100IV Lapras (FB IB) 1458CP. hoorah.

also beat Blastoise (28k, level 4), and againt its HP like crazy. waited 20 minutes then finally beat with 8 team members. raid boss ran away. worst experience.

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Stuck in office... can only battle nearby flareon (again)

Couldn't solo it... damn lag.. then another fella join and finished it easy.

Ah well.. at least got a charge TM for the effort.
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QUOTE(mitkey06 @ Jun 26 2017, 12:47 PM)
just won Lapras about 21k. its charge move like crazy. beat with 6 team members. the last 2 came in all use blissey. after won lapras, got a 100IV Lapras (FB IB) 1458CP. hoorah.

also beat Blastoise (28k, level 4), and againt its HP like crazy. waited 20 minutes then finally beat with 8 team members. raid boss ran away. worst experience.
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wah....... congratulations on the win!! 100% Lapras... I want it too!!

yeah, I think ppl who chose the right/good pokemon should be rewarded with higher XP or stardust.

you would think Blissey is bad... but I've seen ppl battled with .....

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his level is not that low either.... really facepalm!!
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just use the TM on 3.3k D9 and got D Breath and Hurricane. going to test out.
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I'm wondering if its wise to use TM on a poliwrath.

Technically it should be great on Ttar and Lapras but its attk stats are so so at best.
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Lol....lucky me...got a fast TM solo a Bayleef. But charge TM is better, right?
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Hey guys the raid pass cannot stack? Exe if I don't use the one I have today and tmw when I spin a gym will I get another one???

Asking bcs today when I spin gym I didn't get a raid pass?
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QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Jun 26 2017, 04:20 PM)
Hey guys the raid pass cannot stack? Exe if I don't use the one I have today and tmw when I spin a gym will I get another one???

Asking bcs today when I spin gym I didn't get a raid pass?
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U will only get 1 free Raid pass. If u didnt use it, 2nd day u wont get a raid pass. I tried today. So i use it to fight a raid boss but loose sad.gif[ i play solo cause all of my friends are not playing anymore sad.gif ] .....later on go to another gym then only get another pass. But still can use. I fought 2 raid boss on a same account on the same day.

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QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Jun 26 2017, 04:20 PM)
Hey guys the raid pass cannot stack? Exe if I don't use the one I have today and tmw when I spin a gym will I get another one???

Asking bcs today when I spin gym I didn't get a raid pass?
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Nope. Only premium pass bought from shop can stack.

But you can use today's pass to fight tomorrow and spin another pass. ie 2 free raids tomorrow.





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Lol....lucky me...got a fast TM solo a Bayleef. But charge TM is better, right?
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work it on the steelwing D9 or the bullet punch MChamp.
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first time feed blissey until it's tired of normal berries. only can feed golden berries. laugh.gif
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I'm wondering if its wise to use TM on a poliwrath.

Technically it should be great on Ttar and Lapras but its attk stats are so so at best.
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no..... don't!! Go for Machamp only!!

actually, it doesn't matter unless you're fighting solo.
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no..... don't!! Go for Machamp only!!

actually, it doesn't matter unless you're fighting solo.
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no..... don't!! Go for Machamp only!!

actually, it doesn't matter unless you're fighting solo.
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how to stop people feed my mon, it was siting in the gyms more than 24 hours...

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how to stop people feed my mon, it was siting in the gyms more than 24 hours...
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You cant.

Next time put weedle sure nobody will feed.
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thanks... looks like B/SE and B/C are very similar.

I got 34xx (B/SE) and 33xx (IT/SE).
I think maybe I should use TM on 34xx to get B/C,
and TM on 33xx to get B/SE.

all my 3000CP+ pokemons are not as useful as gym defenders anymore.
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jun 27 2017, 12:21 PM)
thanks... looks like B/SE and B/C are very similar.

I got 34xx (B/SE) and 33xx (IT/SE).
I think maybe I should use TM on 34xx to get B/C,
and TM on 33xx to get B/SE.

all my 3000CP+ pokemons are not as useful as gym defenders anymore.
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Stone edge more dodgeable though thats not relevant until niantic sorts out the server lag
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sigh..... was hoping to get back my 3000+ CP blissey and 50 coins, mana tau someone gave it a golden berry to max out its CP... doh.gif

how to get my 50 coins today??
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how to stop people feed my mon, it was siting in the gyms more than 24 hours...
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I feel that there is higher drop rate of items from gym stops as your badge level increases.
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You cant.

Next time put weedle sure nobody will feed.
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Let say my pokemon defending a gym for more than 48 hours. When it return, do i get 100 coins?
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Let say my pokemon defending a gym for more than 48 hours. When it return, do i get 100 coins?
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1 billion hour also no use... cap is 50 coins a day and you only get em after defender came back.
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Whoa. Dragon Breath + Outrage D9 is so nice and smooth despite the lower dps than DT
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The KL Tyranitar WhatsApp rombongan is awesome, hoarded 9 Ttar in just 2 days 😂

Now where do i find larvitar candies to powerup 😅
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sniper on the roof after days of scanning finally today raided t9 near my place. Loads of ppl. My raid consisted of 17 ppl. I battled 2 accounts simultaneously my wife n mine.
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sniper on the roof after days of scanning finally today raided t9 near my place. Loads of ppl. My raid consisted of 17 ppl. I battled 2 accounts simultaneously my wife n mine.
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No such luck here... battled gengar and venusaur. Zero TM and both run out of balls.

Talk about bad luck.

The Venusaur was fun .... 20 players average level 37-38... finish damn fast sial. It faint before my charizard.
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Raided tyranitar, the move is suck and IV average only.....cost a lot of time and petrol..
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Quick check. Is it possible to indefinitely defend a gym?

I was attacking this instinct gym and took it down with 3 other valorian but then masuk a 2.7k mystic blissey.

So we 4 fellas gangbang it but it jusl wont dien wan. Motivation meter keep getting topped up. Got another snorlax and ttar masuk but they got kicked out by us but this blissey keep on getting back to full motivation.

We've been at it for ~30 mins until give up.

How is it possible? Any ideas?
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May be there is a gang of spoofers feeding it with gold berry.


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Now that most high level players will choose Tyra for raid (inc later the level 5 legendary), what is your thought on Fast TM ?

use the fast tm on Tyra (3.5K) vs Machamp (2.5k).

the fact is when using Tyra / Machamp against Tyra boss, I am sure BCR or BSE Tyra will be better then ICR or ISE. but then Counter machamp vs BP has 1.7x STAB.

in reality, Machamp probably wont last as long Tyra. so my fast TM goes to

Tyra. I hope Niantic wont reverse that situation.
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QUOTE(mitkey06 @ Jun 27 2017, 11:19 PM)
May be there is a gang of spoofers feeding it with gold berry.
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I wonder if bot can farm gold berry.

Cos we really took it down damn a lot of times. Imagine 4 fellas constantly whacking a single blissey with ttars for half an hour.

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Now that most high level players will choose Tyra for raid (inc later the level 5 legendary), what is your thought on Fast TM ?

use the fast tm on Tyra (3.5K) vs Machamp (2.5k).

the fact is when using Tyra / Machamp against Tyra boss, I am sure BCR or BSE Tyra will be better then ICR or ISE. but then Counter machamp vs BP has 1.7x STAB.

in reality, Machamp probably wont last as long Tyra. so my fast TM goes to

Tyra. I hope Niantic wont reverse that situation.
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On Ttar.... you can see the damage output plot I posted earlier. I think on the other thread.

Short answer definitely B/SE more flexible.

I dunno about your area la... but if you're normally raiding with a lot of ppl and you want to aim for more rewards... the best damage output is still D9 DT/Or.

Or just go with the pokebattler SOP below. I think you should have minimum lvl30 for each right?

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 27 2017, 11:12 PM)
Quick check. Is it possible to indefinitely defend a gym?

I was attacking this instinct gym and took it down with 3 other valorian but then masuk a 2.7k mystic blissey.

So we 4 fellas gangbang it but it jusl wont dien wan. Motivation meter keep getting topped up. Got another snorlax and ttar masuk but they got kicked out by us but this blissey keep on getting back to full motivation.

We've been at it for ~30 mins until give up.

How is it possible? Any ideas?
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Doubt its bot. But possible a group working together with multiple accounts each to pump. Each just pump 1 berry to achieve most optimum results.

On another note, majority of the first day mons returned from gym. I'm almost there...
Btw, if you hit silver medal for gym, you get min 6 items drop. Hoping to hit at least one gold medal.


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sniper on the roof after days of scanning finally today raided t9 near my place. Loads of ppl. My raid consisted of 17 ppl. I battled 2 accounts simultaneously my wife n mine.
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What web site you use to scan raids?
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how to reach gold badge?
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Bronze Additional XP 500 XP Total XP 500 XP
Silver Additional XP 3500 XP Total XP 4000 XP
Gold Additional XP 26,000 XPTotal XP 30,000 XP

1) Adding Pokémon to the Gym (+ 100 Badge XP)
2) Holding a creature at the Gym (+1 Badge XP per minute)
3) Defeating a defending Pokémon (CP of Pokémon defeated divided by 10)
4) Winning a Raid battle (+ 1000 Badge XP)
5) Giving Berries to Pokémon held at the Gym (+ 10 Badge XP, as well as 20 Stardust and a possibility of Candy)
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 27 2017, 11:12 PM)
Quick check. Is it possible to indefinitely defend a gym?

I was attacking this instinct gym and took it down with 3 other valorian but then masuk a 2.7k mystic blissey.

So we 4 fellas gangbang it but it jusl wont dien wan. Motivation meter keep getting topped up. Got another snorlax and ttar masuk but they got kicked out by us but this blissey keep on getting back to full motivation.

We've been at it for ~30 mins until give up.

How is it possible? Any ideas?
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is possible
i created 2 feeder acc + 1 main all same team
i can keep feeding the same gym atleast till full
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Doubt its bot. But possible a group working together with multiple accounts each to pump. Each just pump 1 berry to achieve most optimum results.

On another note, majority of the first day mons returned from gym. I'm almost there...
Btw, if you hit silver medal for gym, you get min 6 items drop. Hoping to hit at least one gold medal.
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is possible
i created 2 feeder acc + 1 main all same team
i can keep feeding the same gym atleast till full
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That means those feeder account also have to grind raids to get the gold berries?
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is possible
i created 2 feeder acc + 1 main all same team
i can keep feeding the same gym atleast till full
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That means those feeder account also have to grind raids to get the gold berries?
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well i din go for raid tho but i can
if only me alone with 3 id can do it with normal berries i think a group of ppl with more id can do it as well
i created fresh ID just by spinning pokestop i get it from lvl1-lvl 20 in 3 days thx to the 250exp/spin
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That means those feeder account also have to grind raids to get the gold berries?
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well i din go for raid tho but i can
if only me alone with 3 id can do it with normal berries i think a group of ppl with more id can do it as well
i created fresh ID just by spinning pokestop i get it from lvl1-lvl 20 in 3 days thx to the 250exp/spin
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Now tactic is few accounts mostly same team and at least one diff team. Same team feeder, just normal berries. Diff team to shave. I only use half, 3 accounts belonging to wife, kid and myself all same team.
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QUOTE(1qaz1qaz @ Jun 28 2017, 09:11 AM)
well i din go for raid tho but i can
if only me alone with 3 id can do it with normal berries i think a group of ppl with more id can do it as well
i created fresh ID just by spinning pokestop i get it from lvl1-lvl 20 in 3 days thx to the 250exp/spin
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Now tactic is few accounts mostly same team and at least one diff team. Same team feeder, just normal berries. Diff team to shave. I only use half, 3 accounts belonging to wife, kid and myself all same team.
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No wonder.

Aiyor... you guys make life difficult for casuals like me.
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No wonder.
Aiyor... you guys make life difficult for casuals like me.
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Actually, got no intention to c*ck block others from taking down gym. If the gym is being battled, no point for me to feed.
But if got space in gym or after taking down, i just use 3 accounts to place mons. Later on in the day, come back and feed all three, but use all 3 accounts - each account feed 2 berries to each mon. So effectively, each mon can get 6 berries and gains ~ 500-600 cp (or motivation) x 3 accounts = 1,500 - 1,800 cp (motivation).

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Actually, got no intention to c*ck block others from taking down gym. If the gym is being battled, no point for me to feed.
But if got space in gym or after taking down, i just use 3 accounts to place mons. Later on in the day, come back and feed all three, but use all 3 accounts - each account feed 2 berries to each mon. So effectively, each mon can get 6 berries and gains ~ 500-600 cp (or motivation) x 3 accounts = 1,500 - 1,800 cp (motivation).
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Wow... I just saja use it as berry dumping ground niah.

Anyway... I'm gonna go slow for a while. All this raids and new gym system is wearing me out.
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Guys, i have 2 questions:

1. I'm not that experienced in gym raids, but based on 1 ttar and chatting with other trainers, there are certain instances where raid bosses think they are gummy bears or high on razz juice, and continuously bounce. Even golden razz doesn't do the trick. One fella i met raided 3 ttar and caught 0. Any of you guys feed nanab berry or have any tips for this? Personally, i just switch razz, golden, razz.

2. I find that raids are slowly dying off. Everyone just wants to get that ttar. Level 1-2 are mainly when you are away and just want to use your raid pass for the day / yesterday and collect a new one. Level 3 is when you are bored, no mates and no good level 4 is available. Level 4, i feel people are waiting for that ttar. Last night around 8.30 pm a snorlax boss hatched near my house. Not a single soul....
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QUOTE(thirty6whoisit @ Jun 28 2017, 10:38 AM)
Guys, i have 2 questions:

1. I'm not that experienced in gym raids, but based on 1 ttar and chatting with other trainers, there are certain instances where raid bosses think they are gummy bears or high on razz juice, and continuously bounce. Even golden razz doesn't do the trick. One fella i met raided 3 ttar and caught 0. Any of you guys feed nanab berry or have any tips for this? Personally, i just switch razz, golden, razz.

2. I find that raids are slowly dying off. Everyone just wants to get that ttar. Level 1-2 are mainly when you are away and just want to use your raid pass for the day / yesterday and collect a new one. Level 3 is when you are bored, no mates and no good level 4 is available. Level 4, i feel people are waiting for that ttar. Last night around 8.30 pm a snorlax boss hatched near my house. Not a single soul....
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The whole update and raid specifically was meant for lower, newer and casual players to catch up.

It's not like you're lacking lvl 20 venusaurs, blastoise, charizard and even snorlax.

Ttar on the other hand are relatively new and rare so there's still folks who (like myself) haven't got 20 yet.


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The whole update and raid specifically was meant for lower, newer and casual players to catch up.

It's not like you're lacking lvl 20 venusaurs, blastoise, charizard and even snorlax.

Ttar on the other hand are relatively new and rare so there's still folks who (like myself) haven't got 20 yet.
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The flaw in this design is:
1) For level 4, need a lot of players to raid (esp for trainer level 20-25) which is hard and most players are ald level 30+
2) The enticement of raids is to be entitled for legendary raid pass (however true this is).

For me, i don't really need the raid boss just want the items and experience. My luck with raid items really suck. Whether solo or even dealing equal if not more damage than rest that are raiding i haven't received a single TM. Can you believe it? LOL.... Not that i really need it, but it would be nice to receive one.
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a little disappointment is that after raiding lvl 4 gym but no TM. I need those fast and charge TM. other items are not so fun.
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a little disappointment is that after raiding lvl 4 gym but no TM. I need those fast and charge TM. other items are not so fun.
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Same here. 3 raids with no tm
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Got an issue here.....my pokemon returned and got 1 coin sweat.gif but it wont credit it to my account sad.gif Anyone facing this issue?
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Got an issue here.....my pokemon returned and got 1 coin sweat.gif  but it wont credit it to my account sad.gif  Anyone facing this issue?
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Time delay perhaps? Did it went in now?
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Now tactic is few accounts mostly same team and at least one diff team. Same team feeder, just normal berries. Diff team to shave. I only use half, 3 accounts belonging to wife, kid and myself all same team.
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No wonder.

Aiyor... you guys make life difficult for casuals like me.
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if not how to get coin la
even sometimes park ady no feed also wont come back
i have to go whack my own gym just for the coins
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Now that they have reduced the trainer levels needed to join the gym raid, I'm back in the game. Took down a Jolteon boss last night. :-)
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actually i dont like they keep on lowering the lvl needed for raid
the other joined a tyra raid with more then half of the raiders are between lvl 21-25 and most of them are kids. the mons that they are using, damn i feel like slapping them loool
they use god damn pidgey!!! dafuq??? and some non attacker end up that round we lose and waste my time and potions
niantic should keep it atleast lvl30. even they dont know how to play raid still got high cp can help on dps

QUOTE(thirty6whoisit @ Jun 28 2017, 10:38 AM)
Guys, i have 2 questions:

1. I'm not that experienced in gym raids, but based on 1 ttar and chatting with other trainers, there are certain instances where raid bosses think they are gummy bears or high on razz juice, and continuously bounce. Even golden razz doesn't do the trick. One fella i met raided 3 ttar and caught 0. Any of you guys feed nanab berry or have any tips for this? Personally, i just switch razz, golden, razz.

2. I find that raids are slowly dying off. Everyone just wants to get that ttar. Level 1-2 are mainly when you are away and just want to use your raid pass for the day / yesterday and collect a new one. Level 3 is when you are bored, no mates and no good level 4 is available. Level 4, i feel people are waiting for that ttar. Last night around 8.30 pm a snorlax boss hatched near my house. Not a single soul....
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well mostly we(they) after lapras/tyra and maybe machamp(coz raid boss weakness) the rest we all ady have it
and we all think tyra drop more item haha whistling.gif biggrin.gif
till date i only raid venusaur(1st raid dont know what to pick) and the rest are all tyra 3/4 times

and yes tyra so bodo one, i only caught 1 out 3


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QUOTE(1qaz1qaz @ Jun 28 2017, 05:27 PM)
actually i dont like they keep on lowering the lvl needed for raid
the other joined a tyra raid with more then half of the raiders are between lvl 21-25 and most of them are kids. the mons that they are using, damn i feel like slapping them loool
they use god damn pidgey!!! dafuq??? and some non attacker end up that round we lose and waste my time and potions
niantic should keep it atleast lvl30. even they dont know how to play raid still got high cp can help on dps
well mostly we(they) after lapras/tyra and maybe machamp(coz raid boss weakness) the rest we all ady have it
and we all think tyra drop more item haha  whistling.gif  biggrin.gif
till date i only raid venusaur(1st raid dont know what to pick) and the rest are all tyra 3/4 times

and yes tyra so bodo one, i only caught 1 out 3
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Agree.. Niantic should've kept it at lvl 30.

But if they do... what else the kids are gonna play beside catching pidgeys?

They get locked out of gyms regardless of what update Niantic makes.
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 28 2017, 05:39 PM)
Agree.. Niantic should've kept it at lvl 30.

But if they do... what else the kids are gonna play beside catching pidgeys?

They get locked out of gyms regardless of what update Niantic makes.
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yes i know that but if u see it the other way thats also a target for them
if they wanna raid then keep grinding. tbh even play casually lvl 30 is not that hard to reach
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 28 2017, 05:39 PM)
Agree.. Niantic should've kept it at lvl 30.

But if they do... what else the kids are gonna play beside catching pidgeys?

They get locked out of gyms regardless of what update Niantic makes.
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yes i know that but if u see it the other way thats also a target for them
if they wanna raid then keep grinding. tbh even play casually lvl 30 is not that hard to reach
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simple trial would be to cap level 4 raids to tl 30 and above. And when you select Mon has to have min cp . Just saying...
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After the long weekend, all my mons back...
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So fast. I silver also havent get yet.
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simple trial would be to cap level 4 raids to tl 30 and above. And when you select Mon has to have min cp . Just saying...
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After the long weekend, all my mons back...
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i wonder does it only register when my come back
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it updates from time to time, but there is some lag time.
Now to work on one or two gold badge. Need to hold same gym for another 16 days (total time)... Dang!!!!
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today keep kena gps drift, stand beside gym, can go in select pokemon for battle, but cant start battle. doh.gif
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Guy how much would I earn in this situation?

I put 2 pokemons in gyms yesterday 28/6/17. 1 came back yesterday at 28/6/17 with 30 gold coins. The other Pokémon haven't returned yet and it is already 29/6/17 now, how much would I get from this unreturned Pokémon?

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Guy how much would I earn in this situation?

I put 2 pokemons in gyms yesterday 28/6/17. 1 came back yesterday at 28/6/17 with 30 gold coins. The other Pokémon haven't returned yet and it is already 29/6/17 now, how much would I get from this unreturned Pokémon?
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Your rewards have been reset to 50 coins max today 29/6/2017. So, depending how long that fella stay in gym. More than 8 hours 20 min you get max 50 coins. Whatever balance of 20 coins from 28/6/2017 considered burn.
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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Jun 28 2017, 07:49 PM)
today keep kena gps drift, stand beside gym, can go in select pokemon for battle, but cant start battle. doh.gif
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Anyone knows how to solve this? It was so, very frustrating.

I had this problem twice at two different raids. Both raids were Tyranitar. Everyone was cheering after defeating and capturing their tyranitar while I was struggling just to log into the game. After I logged in, I couldn't do much as I kept getting messages like error or network error. When I finally got into the battle, I couldn't choose the pokemon I want. Went to battle with Wobbuffet, Chansey cry.gif
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Is it just me or tm drops are getting worse.

4th raid without getting one.
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why is it way faster to "level up" the gym by feeding berries than to fight and take down the gym? doh.gif
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why is it way faster to "level up" the gym by feeding berries than to fight and take down the gym? doh.gif
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Technically its fine to be able to defend a gym but niantic under estimated the number of accounts ppl play.
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Is it just me or tm drops are getting worse.

4th raid without getting one.
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Answering my own question and share just in case interested.

Based on current survey, the current drop rate for TM's per Raid tier are as follows

Tier 1 Raids
0 TM - 89%
1 TM - 9%
2+TM - 1%

Tier 2 Raids

0 TM - 86%
1 TM - 13%
2+TM - 1%

Tier 3 Raids
0 TM - 60%
1 TM - 30%
2+TM - 10%

Tier 4 Raids
0 TM - 36%
1 TM - 35%
2+TM - 29%
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 29 2017, 09:11 AM)
Answering my own question and share just in case interested.

Based on current survey, the current drop rate for TM's per Raid tier are as follows

Tier 1 Raids
0 TM  - 89%
1 TM  - 9%
2+TM - 1%

Tier 2 Raids

0 TM  - 86%
1 TM  - 13%
2+TM - 1%

Tier 3 Raids
0 TM  - 60%
1 TM  - 30%
2+TM - 10%

Tier 4 Raids
0 TM  - 36%
1 TM  - 35%
2+TM - 29%
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I have higher chance to received TM when i join group for level 4 Raid Boss (received TM 4 out of 5 Raids)

No TM when i solo level 2 and level 3 Raid Boss (No TM 2 out of 2 Raids)
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QUOTE(thirty6whoisit @ Jun 29 2017, 08:00 AM)
Your rewards have been reset to 50 coins max today 29/6/2017. So, depending how long that fella stay in gym. More than 8 hours 20 min you get max 50 coins. Whatever balance of 20 coins from 28/6/2017 considered burn.
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lol thanks dude
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 29 2017, 09:11 AM)
Answering my own question and share just in case interested.

Based on current survey, the current drop rate for TM's per Raid tier are as follows

Tier 1 Raids
0 TM  - 89%
1 TM  - 9%
2+TM - 1%

Tier 2 Raids

0 TM  - 86%
1 TM  - 13%
2+TM - 1%

Tier 3 Raids
0 TM  - 60%
1 TM  - 30%
2+TM - 10%

Tier 4 Raids
0 TM  - 36%
1 TM  - 35%
2+TM - 29%
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Good infor, thanks. 👍
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i only got 1 each of fast and charged TM on the 1st 2 days of raid. btw, how did you guy catch ttar? join 2 raid and both finish up my premier ball and ran away.
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QUOTE(steven0113 @ Jun 29 2017, 01:22 PM)
i only got 1 each of fast and charged TM on the 1st 2 days of raid. btw, how did you guy catch ttar? join 2 raid and both finish up my premier ball and ran away.
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Ttar is hyper. You need to be patient and try to get "great" throw. Get as many ball as possible (team owner, most team participation in raid) and make every ball count. Other than that will be luck.
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QUOTE(kww @ Jun 29 2017, 03:20 PM)
Ttar is hyper. You need to be patient and try to get "great" throw. Get as many ball as possible (team owner, most team participation in raid) and make every ball count. Other than that will be luck.
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i threw mostly greatball but fella kept breaking it...ran 2 ttar already..just frustrating only... vmad.gif
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QUOTE(steven0113 @ Jun 29 2017, 03:01 PM)
i threw mostly greatball but fella kept breaking it...ran 2 ttar already..just frustrating only... vmad.gif
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Don't worry, there're so many raids. You'll will get yours soon.
Just make sure when the cp is above 2080, you pay full attention and capture it.
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QUOTE(kww @ Jun 29 2017, 04:10 PM)
Don't worry, there're so many raids. You'll will get yours soon.
Just make sure when the cp is above 2080, you pay full attention and capture it.
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Lol..alright..CP above 2080 is it means good states? i dont even have a ttar now..lol
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Lol..alright..CP above 2080 is it means good states? i dont even have a ttar now..lol
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Yes... 2097 is 100%...
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Yes... 2097 is 100%...
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I already got 2 tyranitar 91% and 93% IV above lvl35... don't think I need a lvl20 Tyranitar. sad.gif

I met once, it ran away.
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jun 29 2017, 04:00 PM)
I already got 2 tyranitar 91% and 93% IV above lvl35... don't think I need a lvl20 Tyranitar. sad.gif

I met once, it ran away.
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Mana cukup.. both of mine also higher than yours and I think I'm gonna need another 2.
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I already got 2 tyranitar 91% and 93% IV above lvl35... don't think I need a lvl20 Tyranitar. sad.gif

I met once, it ran away.
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errr...what is lvl20 ttar? sorry...newbie here....
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Mana cukup.. both of mine also higher than yours and I think I'm gonna need another 2.
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you want an army again ah, like your D9??

you need so many for what? It's not like you're going solo against the raid boss. Taiwan so dense!!

just now, I soloed Machamp with 2 accounts (should have done this with Jolteon too then I would have won). No one was around. I got higher IV Larvitar but I don't think I'm gonna spend my stardust on them.


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errr...what is lvl20 ttar? sorry...newbie here....
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pokemon has levels .... when you catch one after raid boss, it's level 20. You have to power it up.
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jun 29 2017, 05:43 PM)
you want an army again ah, like your D9??

you need so many for what? It's not like you're going solo against the raid boss. Taiwan so dense!!

just now, I soloed Machamp with 2 accounts (should have done this with Jolteon too then I would have won). No one was around. I got higher IV Larvitar but I don't think I'm gonna spend my stardust on them.
pokemon has levels .... when you catch one after raid boss, it's level 20. You have to power it up.
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ohh...ok ok...lol
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jun 29 2017, 04:43 PM)
you want an army again ah, like your D9??

you need so many for what? It's not like you're going solo against the raid boss. Taiwan so dense!!

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Bare minimum 3 imo.

Tyranitars are great as gym wall breakers to save potions. Having more of them also means can battle immediately without having to heal first which in the meantime, folks can insert additional defenders.

Also legendaries gonna be a thing. I have a number of lvl 30 Golems la but I reckon it'll be more bang for buck to power Ttar instead.

Lastly, it won't be long between the gym raid crowd thins out. Heck my last 2 raids were already solo.
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jun 29 2017, 04:00 PM)
I already got 2 tyranitar 91% and 93% IV above lvl35... don't think I need a lvl20 Tyranitar. sad.gif

I met once, it ran away.
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2 where got enough...
The hope is just for superb iv n movesets...
More importantly, items. Now if only I can get a TM.


QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 29 2017, 04:08 PM)
Mana cukup.. both of mine also higher than yours and I think I'm gonna need another 2.
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2+2+2. Baru ngam 2 min requirement ... Lol
Btw, it se... Would u change to bi se???
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jun 29 2017, 04:43 PM)
you want an army again ah, like your D9??

you need so many for what? It's not like you're going solo against the raid boss. Taiwan so dense!!

just now, I soloed Machamp with 2 accounts (should have done this with Jolteon too then I would have won). No one was around. I got higher IV Larvitar but I don't think I'm gonna spend my stardust on them.
pokemon has levels .... when you catch one after raid boss, it's level 20. You have to power it up.
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Btw, what r u planning to spend stardust on... Just curious ?
I haven't used in long time...




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ohh...ok ok...lol
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QUOTE(thirty6whoisit @ Jun 29 2017, 06:21 PM)
2 where got enough...
The hope is just for superb iv n movesets...
More importantly, items. Now if only I can get a TM.
2+2+2. Baru ngam 2 min requirement ... Lol
Btw, it se... Would u change to bi se???
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Both my current one is b/se.

Right now busy w machamp. Finish this first (almost done) then proceed to ttar plan.

Tahu-kah anda.. lvl39 vape hp output against ttar is only roughly half that of lvl machamp c/dp and c/cc.

Vape more or less = D9 on ttar

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 29 2017, 07:02 PM)
Both my current one is b/se.

Right now busy w machamp. Finish this first (almost done) then proceed to ttar plan.

Tahu-kah anda.. lvl39 vape hp output against ttar is only roughly  half that of lvl machamp c/dp and c/cc.

Vape more or less = D9 on ttar
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Nice. How many rewards premier balls u getting for damage ??
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Nice. How many rewards premier balls u getting for damage ??
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have a thing to ask about gym level.

today i parked my pokemon at a new gym, only fed once and it defended for 2 hours, but my level for that gym was already reaching towards the end.

another gym, i defended for about 15 hours, fed a total of 20+ berries, but my level for the gym is only half.

any reason why? i wanna level up because i read someone here commented that it will give more and better item if the gym level is higher.
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Any Penang players here? Anyone know where Tyranitars spawn here in Penang??
Since the start till now all level 4 gyms I went to Tyranitars didn't spawn. Wasting my petrol only....
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Bare minimum 3 imo.

Tyranitars are great as gym wall breakers to save potions. Having more of them also means can battle immediately without having to heal first which in the meantime, folks can insert additional defenders.

Also legendaries gonna be a thing. I have a number of lvl 30 Golems la but I reckon it'll be more bang for buck to power Ttar instead.

Lastly, it won't be long between the gym raid crowd thins out. Heck my last 2 raids were already solo.
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Both my current one is b/se.

Right now busy w machamp. Finish this first (almost done) then proceed to ttar plan.

Tahu-kah anda.. lvl39 vape hp output against ttar is only roughly  half that of lvl machamp c/dp and c/cc.

Vape more or less = D9 on ttar
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How many Machamp are you planning to level up?

I use Charged TM on my Submission Machamp and got CC, not sure if i should try my luck to get DP. Do you think CC is comparable to DP?
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Any Penang players here? Anyone know where Tyranitars spawn here in Penang??
Since the start till now all level 4 gyms I went to Tyranitars didn't spawn. Wasting my petrol only....
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Which Raid Boss did u successfully solo-ed?
How many Machamp are you planning to level up?

I use Charged TM on my Submission Machamp and got CC, not sure if i should try my luck to get DP. Do you think CC is comparable to DP?
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I've only solo'ed machamp and charizard.

2 or 3 I suppose. Power up too many tak berbaloi.

DP supposed to be ~5% better but CC more dodgeable. That of course doesn't matter now but personally I won't be changing the movesets just yet.
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I use Charged TM on my Submission Machamp and got CC, not sure if i should try my luck to get DP. Do you think CC is comparable to DP?
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CC is easier to control and dodge during battle. i.e. less chance to get hit by enemy charge move by dodging enemy charge move.

but the damage is slightly less during initial 20 secs. for longer duration the difference in damage is more obvious.

but who could last more than 30secs against a tyra, keep dodging?



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Which Raid Boss did u successfully solo-ed?
How many Machamp are you planning to level up?

I use Charged TM on my Submission Machamp and got CC, not sure if i should try my luck to get DP. Do you think CC is comparable to DP?
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Depends on how you fight. I like DP, cause time to charge first bar is fast and I can wait the opponent execute their charge move while I still charging the 2nd bar. This is extremely useful when your opponent using fast charge move like DZ or BS.
Before the gym revamp, the only mon I have at lev30 that can finish off a lev 39 blissey with ZG+DG is my C+DP machamp.
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QUOTE(mitkey06 @ Jun 29 2017, 10:45 PM)
CC is easier to control and dodge during battle. i.e. less chance to get hit by enemy charge move by dodging enemy charge move.

but the damage is slightly less during initial 20 secs. for longer duration the difference in damage is more obvious.

but who could last more than 30secs against a tyra, keep dodging?
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Thats true also

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Depends on how you fight. I like DP, cause time to charge first bar is fast and I can wait the opponent execute their charge move while I still charging the 2nd bar. This is extremely useful when your opponent using fast charge move like DZ or BS.
Before the gym revamp, the only mon I have at lev30 that can finish off a lev 39 blissey with ZG+DG is my C+DP machamp.
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Against blissey is ok cos she hit back no pain but current use is against Ttar. In normal gyms, i just tap tap ttar and yun cha with other hand against blissey.
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left hand level29 account, right hand level36 account, won against Machamp....

but lost against Lapras... cry.gif
I used 2x 26xxCP Machamp, 2x 34xxCP Tyranitar SE, 1x Jolteon, 1x Arcanine on my lvl36 acc. Sometimes I changed to 2x Rhydon but still cannot win against time. For lvl29 acc, I used Flarion & Arcanine & Machamp.
On my best try, could take about 67.5% HP .....
Lesson learned: cannot solo lvl4 Lapras. sad.gif

after that, I soloed Alakazam with just lvl36 account. Again failed. doh.gif doh.gif
I guess I need 6x Umbreon.

so lost 3 raid passes in a day.
During these battles, I was the only one there. Was hoping someone would come around.
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jun 30 2017, 06:52 AM)
left hand level29 account, right hand level36 account, won against Machamp....

but lost against Lapras... cry.gif
I used 2x 26xxCP Machamp, 2x 34xxCP Tyranitar SE, 1x Jolteon, 1x Arcanine on my lvl36 acc. Sometimes I changed to 2x Rhydon but still cannot win against time. For lvl29 acc, I used Flarion & Arcanine & Machamp.
On my best try, could take about 67.5% HP .....
Lesson learned: cannot solo lvl4 Lapras. sad.gif

after that, I soloed Alakazam with just lvl36 account. Again failed. doh.gif doh.gif
I guess I need 6x Umbreon.

so lost 3 raid passes in a day.
During these battles, I was the only one there. Was hoping someone would come around.
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Lvl 4 raid is not meant for solo mission anyway so why bother to do it? My Lapras raid yesterday even with 8 ppl still took till last 60+ sec before it went down.
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huh, we can no longer collect gold coin after assigning our pokemon to be gym defence?
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Btw, where do you live / normal stomping ground?
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huh, we can no longer collect gold coin after assigning our pokemon to be gym defence?
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You automatically get coins after your pokemon gets kicked out of the gym. 1 coin for every 10minutes defending with overall maximum of 50 coins per day.

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bro, i'm at PJ Asia Jaya area...finaly caught 2 tyranitar yesterday with IV is 82% and 84%...
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You automatically get coins after your pokemon gets kicked out of the gym. 1 coin for every 10minutes defending with overall maximum of 50 coins per day.
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1coin for every 10 mins....
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sad.gif stingynya

1coin for every 10 mins....
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That depends on the team total no?
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Team contributes a certain amount, but i tot trainer's individual damage contribution also translates into premier balls reward no? Personally, if a lot of ppl gangbang no problem, but if few are just tanking, then got issue. I kena yesterday once, first round 8 ppl ttar, filled with blissey, snorlax and D9... im dodging and attacking but timed out. Used third mon. Revived and went in 2nd round, 6 ppl.. filled vapes and D9, subsequently machamps, vapes, D9... took it out with 50 secs remaining. The group matters... LOL


QUOTE(TSOM @ Jun 30 2017, 06:52 AM)
after that, I soloed Alakazam with just lvl36 account. Again failed. doh.gif doh.gif
I guess I need 6x Umbreon.
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have a thing to ask about gym level.

today i parked my pokemon at a new gym, only fed once and it defended for 2 hours, but my level for that gym was already reaching towards the end.

another gym, i defended for about 15 hours, fed a total of 20+ berries, but my level for the gym is only half.

any reason why? i wanna level up because i read someone here commented that it will give more and better item if the gym level is higher.
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There are 4 so-called gym levels you can achieve. When you spin the gym stop, you get awarded a gym badge. This is at basic level (Picture #3 - right). After you earn 500xp for that gym (e.g. defending, feeding berry, spin stop, defeating another team's mon in the same gym, RAID) you get upgraded to a bronze badge (Picture #2 - middle). Then When you earn up to 4000xp you get upgraded to silver (Picture #1 - left) and when you hit 30,000xp upgraded to gold (Err... i dont have yet). Based on what i've experienced, silver badge earns around 5-6 items (5 probably if your team isn't controlling).

This is how you earn:

Bronze Additional XP 500 XP Total XP 500 XP
Silver Additional XP 3500 XP Total XP 4000 XP
Gold Additional XP 26,000 XP Total XP 30,000 XP

1) Adding Pokémon to the Gym (+ 100 Badge XP)
2) Holding a creature at the Gym (+1 Badge XP per minute)
3) Defeating a defending Pokémon (CP of Pokémon defeated divided by 10)
4) Winning a Raid battle (+ 1000 Badge XP)
5) Giving Berries to Pokémon held at the Gym (+ 10 Badge XP, as well as 20 Stardust and a possibility of Candy)

* So, in conclusion, to level up a gym badge from basic to bronze to silver to gold is similar like levelling up your TL from Level 28 to 30 to 33... the grind gets harder and takes longer. Hope this helps.

** Btw, if you purely put a mon in an empty gym and don't feed it a berry, it would need to stay there for 20 days for you to earn a gold badge... just saying... LOL

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Team contributes a certain amount, but i tot trainer's individual damage contribution also translates into premier balls reward no? Personally, if a lot of ppl gangbang no problem, but if few are just tanking, then got issue. I kena yesterday once, first round 8 ppl ttar, filled with blissey, snorlax and D9... im dodging and attacking but timed out. Used third mon. Revived and went in 2nd round, 6 ppl.. filled vapes and D9, subsequently machamps, vapes, D9... took it out with 50 secs remaining. The group matters... LOL

That's why you need 6x Ttar... LOL

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I'm not sure of the exact mechanics but there was once I raided a gym and was the only valorian there. That's the only time I didn't get 11x premier balkls.

He somehow fail to grasp the concept of attack stats. Even murkrow has higher attack stats than umbreon laugh.gif

Dark type Attk/Def/Sta compared

Ttar - 251/212/200
Houndoom 224/159/150
Umbreon 126/250/190
Murkrow 175/87/120

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QUOTE(thirty6whoisit @ Jun 30 2017, 09:38 AM)
There are 4 so-called gym levels you can achieve. When you spin the gym stop, you get awarded a gym badge. This is at basic level (Picture #3 - right). After you earn 500xp for that gym (e.g. defending, feeding berry, spin stop, defeating another team's mon in the same gym, RAID) you get upgraded to a bronze badge (Picture #2 - middle). Then When you earn up to 4000xp you get upgraded to silver (Picture #1 - left) and when you hit 30,000xp upgraded to gold (Err... i dont have yet). Based on what i've experienced, silver badge earns around 5-6 items (5 probably if your team isn't controlling).

This is how you earn:

Bronze Additional XP 500 XP      Total XP 500 XP
Silver Additional XP 3500 XP    Total XP 4000 XP
Gold Additional XP 26,000 XP  Total XP 30,000 XP

1) Adding Pokémon to the Gym (+ 100 Badge XP)
2) Holding a creature at the Gym (+1 Badge XP per minute)
3) Defeating a defending Pokémon (CP of Pokémon defeated divided by 10)
4) Winning a Raid battle (+ 1000 Badge XP)
5) Giving Berries to Pokémon held at the Gym (+ 10 Badge XP, as well as 20 Stardust and a possibility of Candy)

* So, in conclusion, to level up a gym badge from basic to bronze to silver to gold is similar like levelling up your TL from Level 28 to 30 to 33... the grind gets harder and takes longer. Hope this helps.

** Btw, if you purely put a mon in an empty gym and don't feed it a berry, it would need to stay there for 20 days for you to earn a gold badge... just saying... LOL
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thanks for the detailed explanation, i get it now. thumbup.gif

anyway, i feel that this -> Defeating a defending Pokémon (CP of Pokémon defeated divided by 10) isnt accurate, because i see the gym xp only increase about 10-20 each time. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 30 2017, 09:53 AM)
I'm not sure of the exact mechanics but there was once I raided a gym and was the only valorian there. That's the only time I didn't get 11x premier balkls.

He somehow fail to grasp the concept of attack stats. Even murkrow has higher attack stats than umbreon  laugh.gif

Dark type Attk/Def/Sta compared

Ttar - 251/212/200
Houndoom 224/159/150
Umbreon 126/250/190
Murkrow 175/87/120
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Frankly speaking, I'm collecting as many ttar possible, especially with bite/coco crunch. I don't want to left standing there powering up a murkrow when mew is the raid boss.
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HI guys, just got my first experience raiding a snorlax gym boss. me lvl 30 with pokemons like d9,rhydon,gyrados,exxeg,lapras and typholsion still cannot take down it eventhough was paired up with another level 33 guy. Still hunting my first snorlax tho...any advice?was pouting and frowning all night because of this..
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QUOTE(dameun89 @ Jun 30 2017, 10:38 AM)
HI guys, just got my first experience raiding a snorlax gym boss. me lvl 30 with pokemons like d9,rhydon,gyrados,exxeg,lapras and typholsion still cannot take down it eventhough was paired up with another level 33 guy. Still hunting my first snorlax tho...any advice?was pouting and frowning all night because of this..
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To take down fatty you need minimum 6 trainers with either type effective or high DPS mons. 2 persons are not possible, you are waiting your resources and time. Ideally 8-10 trainers are more safe.
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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Jun 30 2017, 10:08 AM)
thanks for the detailed explanation, i get it now.  thumbup.gif

anyway, i feel that this -> Defeating a defending Pokémon (CP of Pokémon defeated divided by 10) isnt accurate, because i see the gym xp only increase about 10-20 each time. rclxub.gif
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Tbh, i also was doubting this. However, it is possible that the XP you get after defeating a mon (i.e. the 10-20 amount shown on screen) is going to your trainer xp. When they calculate gym xp, COULD be different... just saying.

QUOTE(dameun89 @ Jun 30 2017, 10:38 AM)
HI guys, just got my first experience raiding a snorlax gym boss. me lvl 30 with pokemons like d9,rhydon,gyrados,exxeg,lapras and typholsion still cannot take down it eventhough was paired up with another level 33 guy. Still hunting my first snorlax tho...any advice?was pouting and frowning all night because of this..
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First problem is your lineup, second and more important problem is the number of ppl in the raid.
To comfortably defeat snorlax, you need min 6-7 ppl with good, strong and matched up lineups.
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QUOTE(dameun89 @ Jun 30 2017, 10:38 AM)
HI guys, just got my first experience raiding a snorlax gym boss. me lvl 30 with pokemons like d9,rhydon,gyrados,exxeg,lapras and typholsion still cannot take down it eventhough was paired up with another level 33 guy. Still hunting my first snorlax tho...any advice?was pouting and frowning all night because of this..
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you need at least 7 players that have machamps. vaporeon and rhyhon to beat snorlax. 2 ppl can beat then no need so hard to find players already.
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 30 2017, 09:53 AM)
I'm not sure of the exact mechanics but there was once I raided a gym and was the only valorian there. That's the only time I didn't get 11x premier balkls.

He somehow fail to grasp the concept of attack stats. Even murkrow has higher attack stats than umbreon  laugh.gif

Dark type Attk/Def/Sta compared

Ttar - 251/212/200
Houndoom 224/159/150
Umbreon 126/250/190
Murkrow 175/87/120
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I can't find any definite info on the awarding of premier balls. But based on this screenshot (not mine), individual damage does contribute. The lowest i got was 9, and it was because i entered the battle late, gave me 30 secs to choose mon (quickly select some D9 and 1 vape) ... crazy lag when wanna select...


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QUOTE(yeelong @ Jun 30 2017, 11:09 AM)
you need at least 7 players that have machamps. vaporeon and rhyhon to beat snorlax. 2 ppl can beat then no need so hard to find players already.
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Sorry bro but that's bad advice.

Vaporeon's water gun was nerfed thats why its rubbish now in the meta

Now its really like water pistol doing only 14dps.

In comparison..

Tyranitar's Bite does 20dps and Dragonite's Dragon Tail does almost 23dps.

That's why now, even against fire types.... rock/ground types are preferred over Vaporeon.

Against Snorlax, Tyranitar is the best choice not just bcos attack and tankiness but also cos Lick only does 0.7 damage and it resist Zen Headbutt (half damage)

My anti-snorlax line up is to place Tyranitars upfront, followed by D/Or Dragonites and last slot or 2 with Machamps since while they do a lot of damage, they are squishy ie waste potion)


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Sorry bro but that's bad advice.

Vaporeon's water gun was nerfed thats why its rubbish now in the meta

Now its really like water pistol doing only 14dps.

In comparison..

Tyranitar's Bite does 20dps and Dragonite's Dragon Tail does almost 23dps.

That's why now, even against fire types.... rock/ground types are preferred over Vaporeon.

Against Snorlax, Tyranitar is the best choice not just bcos attack and tankiness but also cos Lick only does 0.7 damage and it resist Zen Headbutt (half damage)

My anti-snorlax line up is to place Tyranitars upfront, followed by D/Or Dragonites and last slot or 2 with Machamps since while they do a lot of damage, they are squishy ie waste potion)
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Jun 30 2017, 12:10 PM)
so far i haven't raid tyrabank yet. my best raid are snorlax and 2 rhydon only doh.gif

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so far i haven't raid tyrabank yet. my best raid are snorlax and 2 rhydon only doh.gif

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Against Snorlax not advisable to use vaporeon in raid. You can use for fun to battle snorlax in gym... but not raid.
Better use Ttar, D9, Machamp .. these 3 have high DPS and Machamp is also SE against snorlax. The other fighting type are taufu... cannot use to raid (maybe Poliwrath if desperate, but i wouldn't risk it).... LOL.
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damn tyra so hard to catch alwas ran away
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Yesterday and today raid 4x lev 4 gym. Getting 0 TM. Am I bad luck or this is the norm?
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I'm not sure of the exact mechanics but there was once I raided a gym and was the only valorian there. That's the only time I didn't get 11x premier balkls
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Happened to my Lapras raid yday. 8ppl, 5 mystic, 2 instinct, me alone valor laugh.gif
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damn tyra so hard to catch alwas ran away
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Yeah man... fought 6, caught 4. all < 86% iv.... going to trash them soon.

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Yesterday and today raid 4x lev 4 gym. Getting 0 TM. Am I bad luck or this is the norm?
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Very random... all RNG dependent.

i think i have done 9 raids so far.
1 level 2, 1 level 3, 7 level 4 (1 charizard, the rest ttar).
The first 6, i didn't receive a single TM (fast & charged). But the last 3 received 6 (coincidently, all were Ttar)
Similarly, the last 2 raids, not a single golden razz.

QUOTE(alien2003 @ Jun 30 2017, 01:19 PM)
Happened to my Lapras raid yday. 8ppl, 5 mystic, 2 instinct, me alone valor laugh.gif
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Have you hit > 30 raids ald? LOL....


sniper on the roof i've noticed an increasingly alarming trend. if you enter the lobby and wait, say there around 8 players, you happily select mon and get ready for battle. When you enter gym, almost half will pull out. All waiting for more than 10 players to battle. Today battled a ttar, from 8 dropped to 4 then before start drop to 2. I pulled out and re-entered with 12 players - freakin seeing 2 gyarados in there. But quite happy that i saw another 2 machamps, 1 heracross, 2 vapes , 2 D9s simultaneously battling together.

On another note, they should seriously fix the lag when choosing mons. If you enter with < 50 secs, impossible to select all 6, especially in covered places.
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I want to seek everyone's opinion. Say you obtained 4 TMs (say 2 fast and 2 charged). What would you personally prioritise to change (e.g. D9 HB to OR / T9 IT to Bi) and why?
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QUOTE(thirty6whoisit @ Jun 30 2017, 02:32 PM)
Yeah man... fought 6, caught 4. all < 86% iv.... going to trash them soon.
Very random... all RNG dependent.

i think i have done 9 raids so far.
1 level 2, 1 level 3, 7 level 4 (1 charizard, the rest ttar).
The first 6, i didn't receive a single TM (fast & charged). But the last 3 received 6 (coincidently, all were Ttar)
Similarly, the last 2 raids, not a single golden razz.
Have you hit > 30 raids ald? LOL....
sniper on the roof i've noticed an increasingly alarming trend. if you enter the lobby and wait, say there around 8 players, you happily select mon and get ready for battle. When you enter gym, almost half will pull out. All waiting for more than 10 players to battle. Today battled a ttar, from 8 dropped to 4 then before start drop to 2. I pulled out and re-entered with 12 players - freakin seeing 2 gyarados in there. But quite happy that i saw another 2 machamps, 1 heracross, 2 vapes , 2 D9s simultaneously battling together. 

On another note, they should seriously fix the lag when choosing mons. If you enter with < 50 secs, impossible to select all 6, especially in covered places.
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Happened to me before. 17 players in lounge but 4 battled. I think theyre spoofing groups that join private raid group to get more drops and to avoid freeloaders going in with blisseys and snorlaxes
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QUOTE(thirty6whoisit @ Jun 30 2017, 02:36 PM)
I want to seek everyone's opinion. Say you obtained 4 TMs (say 2 fast and 2 charged). What would you personally prioritise to change (e.g. D9 HB to OR / T9 IT to Bi) and why?
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Depends which pokemon you need more?

I've already got the D9's I need so I used mine on Ttar.

Btw... not only TM drop rates are falling, Niantic just made it more difficult to catch some raid boss.

Changes in base capture rate

12.5% to 10%: Alakazam, Machamp
20% to 5%: Rhydon, Lapras, Snorlax
30% to 20%: Elecatbuzz, Magmar
15% to 12.5%: Vaporeon, Jolteon, Flareon
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 30 2017, 02:46 PM)
Depends which pokemon you need more?

I've already got the D9's I need so I used mine on Ttar.

Btw... not only TM drop rates are falling, Niantic just made it more difficult to catch some raid boss.

Changes in base capture rate

12.5% to 10%: Alakazam, Machamp
20% to 5%: Rhydon, Lapras, Snorlax
30% to 20%: Elecatbuzz, Magmar
15% to 12.5%: Vaporeon, Jolteon, Flareon
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Ttar i might since i only have 1 with Bi /Se and 1 with Bi/ Cr.
Would you change a legacy moveset Machamp and try to get Co / CC or DP for e.g.? Or try getting that DB / OR D9?

As for the drop in base capture rates, it basically means here in KV everyone will soon say bye2 to any raids besides ttar. Btw, what is the base capture rate for T9 raid boss - 10%?

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Ttar i might since i only have 1 with Bi /Se and 1 with Bi/ Cr.
Would you change a legacy moveset Machamp and try to get Co / CC or DP for e.g.? Or try getting that DB / OR D9?

As for the drop in base capture rates, it basically means here in KV everyone will soon say bye2 to any raids besides ttar. Btw, what is the base capture rate for T9 raid boss - 10%?
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Is that legacy Machamp powered up enough to be worth burning TM's?

Bear in mind you won't necessarily get the moves you wanted. It's still RNG.

I recall it Ttar was 5%
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QUOTE(thirty6whoisit @ Jun 30 2017, 03:31 PM)
Ttar i might since i only have 1 with Bi /Se and 1 with Bi/ Cr.
Would you change a legacy moveset Machamp and try to get Co / CC or DP for e.g.? Or try getting that DB / OR D9?

As for the drop in base capture rates, it basically means here in KV everyone will soon say bye2 to any raids besides ttar. Btw, what is the base capture rate for T9 raid boss - 10%?
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why not go to machamp gym and hope to catch boss with 95% IV and above and then slowly power it up to level 30.

the TM should be reserved for high CP ttar or d9 or who knows one day other legendary
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is it true gym rate frequency is reduced ?
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is it true gym rate frequency is reduced ?
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Don't know about your side but its very noticeable.... and probably going down further.

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QUOTE(thirty6whoisit @ Jun 30 2017, 12:23 PM)
Against Snorlax not advisable to use vaporeon in raid. You can use for fun to battle snorlax in gym... but not raid.
Better use Ttar, D9, Machamp .. these 3 have high DPS and Machamp is also SE against snorlax. The other fighting type are taufu... cannot use to raid (maybe Poliwrath if desperate, but i wouldn't risk it).... LOL.
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I only have a d9 cp3107(steel wing,OR) and tyranitar cp 2120 (Iron Tail & Fire Blast) that is good against snorlax..any other pokemon that has high dps? eg:rhydon?
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 30 2017, 12:00 PM)
Sorry bro but that's bad advice.

Vaporeon's water gun was nerfed thats why its rubbish now in the meta

Now its really like water pistol doing only 14dps.

In comparison..

Tyranitar's Bite does 20dps and Dragonite's Dragon Tail does almost 23dps.

That's why now, even against fire types.... rock/ground types are preferred over Vaporeon.

Against Snorlax, Tyranitar is the best choice not just bcos attack and tankiness but also cos Lick only does 0.7 damage and it resist Zen Headbutt (half damage)

My anti-snorlax line up is to place Tyranitars upfront, followed by D/Or Dragonites and last slot or 2 with Machamps since while they do a lot of damage, they are squishy ie waste potion)
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I only have a d9 cp3107(steel wing,OR) and tyranitar cp 2120 (Iron Tail & Fire Blast) that is good against snorlax..any other pokemon that has high dps? eg:rhydon?
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QUOTE(dameun89 @ Jun 30 2017, 06:03 PM)
I only have a d9 cp3107(steel wing,OR) and tyranitar cp 2120 (Iron Tail & Fire Blast) that is good against snorlax..any other pokemon that has high dps? eg:rhydon?
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Rhydon is bulky but attack wise is just so so.

Depends on where u live and the number of active players, one way to go about things is to stepping stones for a stronger squad.

Machamps are relatively easy to take down in a group, use physic types like exeggutor to fight it and get TM's and candies.

You can then use the machamps, vaporeons and ur steel wing dragonite to raid tyranitars which will be useful for upcoming legendaries

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QUOTE(thirty6whoisit @ Jun 30 2017, 02:32 PM)
Have you hit > 30 raids ald? LOL....

On another note, they should seriously fix the lag when choosing mons. If you enter with < 50 secs, impossible to select all 6, especially in covered places.
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Not yet, now only 21/100 biggrin.gif

Agreed on the lag. Just now tried a Lvl 4 Snorlax @ Lowyat Plaza...1st round only 7 players.... some selected Jolteon and I saw Blissey as well.....outcome is below:

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Re-entered 2nd round but even lesser players and system auto selected 3 Chansey(!) for my squad of 6....thank god I quit due to lack of ppl else there is less than 60sec for me to change them away! laugh.gif

Another raid of Lvl 4 Rhydon, raid won but after finished 10 balls that bugger ran away! ranting.gif
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Not yet, now only 21/100  biggrin.gif

Agreed on the lag. Just now tried a Lvl 4 Snorlax @ Lowyat Plaza...1st round only 7 players.... some selected Jolteon and I saw Blissey as well.....outcome is below:

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Re-entered 2nd round but even lesser players and system auto selected 3 Chansey(!) for my squad of 6....thank god I quit due to lack of ppl else there is less than 60sec for me to change them away!  laugh.gif

Another raid of Lvl 4 Rhydon, raid won but after finished 10 balls that bugger ran away!  ranting.gif
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Sanggup spend Ald.. Lol .. I only did 9. Bought 1 pass for tyra.
Now to spend that stardust...
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Now I look at my chansey and snorlax candy feeling so lost. Hunt, walk (n drive) to collect. Now can't really spend... sigh...
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today the drop of TM is NIL for me.

worse still, people just quit when found the lvl 4 gym is a char.

looks like need to wait for anniversary to really raid the boss.
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what's everyone's buddy now??
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Mine is pidgey.

QUOTE(mitkey06 @ Jun 30 2017, 10:24 PM)
today the drop of TM is NIL for me.

worse still, people just quit when found the lvl 4 gym is a char.

looks like need to wait for anniversary to really raid the boss.
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Today I got 0 TM also. Fight 3x lev4 boss. bangwall.gif

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Now I look at my chansey and snorlax candy feeling so lost. Hunt, walk (n drive) to collect. Now can't really spend... sigh...
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I ngam ngam 50 chansey and 109 snorlax. Ok lor. Not too much lost. What u walking now?
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what's everyone's buddy now??
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Machop

QUOTE(mitkey06 @ Jun 30 2017, 10:38 PM)
today the drop of TM is NIL for me.

worse still, people just quit when found the lvl 4 gym is a char.

looks like need to wait for anniversary to really raid the boss.
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Mine is pidgey.
Today I got 0 TM also. Fight 3x lev4 boss.  bangwall.gif
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No TM for last 5 raids di.
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I ngam ngam 50 chansey and 109 snorlax. Ok lor. Not too much lost. What u walking now?
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Machoke... Lol. Can't think of anything else.

My chansey and snorlax candy way more than that.. Unless got tweaks in the future can't even use them to make soup.

Soon, going to do mass evolution + power up + change moves.

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Machop
No TM for last 5 raids di.
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Btw, how many machamps u have now ?
Maybe can try buying a raid pass to break the chain of no TM?? Lol...
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Btw, how many machamps u have now ?
Maybe can try buying a raid pass to break the chain of no TM?? Lol...
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Its more like no time rather than no pass. I only have have 2 powered up machamps
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raid is for lvl 5 now
this is so stupid!!!!
http://pokemongolive.com/en/post/raidsrollout
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raid is for lvl 5 now
this is so stupid!!!!
http://pokemongolive.com/en/post/raidsrollout
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they revoked it. so it will just be the same as before
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Damn it  ranting.gif  mad.gif  vmad.gif
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we will see more pidgey in raid now or just like the loading screen using evo1 mons
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we will see more pidgey in raid now or just like the loading screen using evo1 mons
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Later when enter Ttar raid....people using pidgey/rattata/caterpie/weedle/marill/wooper....

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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Jul 1 2017, 10:17 AM)
Later when enter Ttar raid....people using pidgey/rattata/caterpie/weedle/marill/wooper....

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lvl 20 is low enough yet they make it lvl5 bangwall.gif
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left hand lvl29 acc, right hand lvl36 acc against lvl3 Machamp. I was the only player. sad.gif

got a fast TM on lvl29, but no TM on lvl36. cry.gif

btw, what to do with over 3000CP Blissey? Wanted to change pound/DG to ZH/DG, but now I'm not sure anymore.
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left hand lvl29 acc, right hand lvl36 acc against lvl3 Machamp. I was the only player. sad.gif

got a fast TM on lvl29, but no TM on lvl36. cry.gif

btw, what to do with over 3000CP Blissey? Wanted to change pound/DG to ZH/DG, but now I'm not sure anymore.
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blissey are kinda useless now regret power up over 3k cant use to park gym
cant use for raid either too low dps and to be fair with other raiders
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jul 1 2017, 01:33 PM)
left hand lvl29 acc, right hand lvl36 acc against lvl3 Machamp. I was the only player. sad.gif

got a fast TM on lvl29, but no TM on lvl36. cry.gif

btw, what to do with over 3000CP Blissey? Wanted to change pound/DG to ZH/DG, but now I'm not sure anymore.
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QUOTE(1qaz1qaz @ Jul 1 2017, 02:16 PM)
blissey are kinda useless now regret power up over 3k cant use to park gym
cant use for raid either too low dps and to be fair with other raiders
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3k blissey very useful. Park in gyms around midnight. Confirm next day get coins. Plus for some "super affective" against raid ttar. But no need.to power up more. What the heck am I going to do with all those chansey candies... Maybe use for mass evolve.

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saw a lvl4 Snorlax around 9.30am this morning, but I was the only one there.

even though I got 2 accounts, I don't think I can take down snorlax with just 2 machamp in each account. sad.gif

Niantic needs to do something about this lah... if no ppl how?? Lower the CP lah ....
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saw a lvl4 Snorlax around 9.30am this morning, but I was the only one there.

even though I got 2 accounts, I don't think I can take down snorlax with just 2 machamp in each account. sad.gif

Niantic needs to do something about this lah... if no ppl how?? Lower the CP lah ....
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Their objectives is to encourage people from different teams to play together so lowering the CP so that you can solo will defeat the purpose of it been launched in the first place.
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Their objectives is to encourage people from different teams to play together so lowering the CP so that you can solo will defeat the purpose of it been launched in the first place.
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but no human there = no need to play?? sad.gif
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but no human there = no need to play?? sad.gif
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I guess we just have to bear/live with it. I have been to spots like KLCC and people there will just leave once they see the spawn is Venusaur.

You will need to judge and decide if you want to take a chance/risk to go in hoping people/spoofers are there to fight.
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btw, Alakazam vs Espeon, which is better? which would you power up??

assuming Alakazam has PC/FS, Espeon has C/FS.
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saw a lvl4 Snorlax around 9.30am this morning, but I was the only one there.

even though I got 2 accounts, I don't think I can take down snorlax with just 2 machamp in each account. sad.gif

Niantic needs to do something about this lah... if no ppl how?? Lower the CP lah ....
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It's because you only get 1 free pass per day, of course you'll use it on the mon you wanted the most. Snorlax is not the most useful mon now, and also damn difficult to take down.
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btw, Alakazam vs Espeon, which is better? which would you power up??

assuming Alakazam has PC/FS, Espeon has C/FS.
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for raid, how to get extra poke balls for gym control?

i just solo a raid, but i didn't get extra poke balls for gym control even though my pokemon is in the gym.
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btw, Alakazam vs Espeon, which is better? which would you power up??

assuming Alakazam has PC/FS, Espeon has C/FS.
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Both are good against Machamp I would say power up both
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but no human there = no need to play?? sad.gif
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Lol.. Now before raiding have to call for ground support and if you have contact, air support. But normally, ppl don't go for snorlax n lapras esp now since capture rate reduced.

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btw, Alakazam vs Espeon, which is better? which would you power up??

assuming Alakazam has PC/FS, Espeon has C/FS.
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Question is, how often are you going to use bro? If you planning to fight daily machamp raid boss, then I would suggest look at the exe you have with psychic moves. Worse case power up 1. However, I would n imo feel you should prioritise, Machamp and Tyranitar.

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for raid, how to get extra poke balls for gym control?

i just solo a raid, but i didn't get extra poke balls for gym control even though my pokemon is in the gym.
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If I'm not mistaken is whether your team is in control of the gym the raid boss has hatched.
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It's about time for me to mass evolve....

any double XP/candies event coming???
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for raid, how to get extra poke balls for gym control?

i just solo a raid, but i didn't get extra poke balls for gym control even though my pokemon is in the gym.
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More for your dps
The level of ur gym badge for that raid gym and if the gym is within ur team control
Your team's peformance

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More for your dps
The level of ur gym badge for that raid gym and if the gym is within ur team control
Your team's peformance
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My surroundings are mainly blue/yellow..... very seldom see red team to feed berries let alone to slot any mon laugh.gif sweat.gif confused.gif

In raid, lagi no need say liao..... always valor is the lowest scoring one sad.gif

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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Jul 2 2017, 11:02 AM)
My surroundings are mainly blue/yellow..... very seldom see red team to feed berries let alone to slot any mon  laugh.gif  sweat.gif  :confused:

In raid, lagi no need say liao..... always valor is the lowest scoring one  sad.gif
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Yeah thats one of my main peeves about the current system.. it becomes territorial more than ever.

The game play in my home area became looking for rival gyms that have less than 100% motivation then rush there to join attack so dont have to wait 10mins to put in mon and see if any own team gyms less than 100% motivation go rush and feed berries. If any mon drop more than half, then nobody will feed hoping it will free up one spot.

Last time lvl10 still can solo but now impossible unless its 4am or ulu area.

Kesian instinct.
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Guys, seek your opinion. Caught this wild machop>82% iv and at level 30. Post evolution shld get 2.2k min cp without power up. Problem is the atk stat is only 12. Would you guys evolve or wait for another?


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i seem to get more TM with purchased pass then the day pass.

not sure if Niantic reset it.
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Guys, seek your opinion. Caught this wild machop>82% iv and at level 30. Post evolution shld get 2.2k min cp without power up. Problem is the atk stat is only 12. Would you guys evolve or wait for another?
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are you desperate???

I might evolve it since I already got 2x, 98% and 100%. Can save stardust.

I still got another 100% Machop at lvl19. Not sure if I'll evolve it and power up.
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i have a pokemon in the gym, so it's under my team control, and my gym level is silver.

and i still got no extra. doh.gif
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i have a pokemon in the gym, so it's under my team control, and my gym level is silver.

and i still got no extra. doh.gif
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First time took public transport to chase ttar raid biggrin.gif

Caught one on last ball and one ran away. Got 2 TM.
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SO TM on the paid pass ?
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QUOTE(mitkey06 @ Jul 2 2017, 05:06 PM)
SO TM on the paid pass ?
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Opposite. Got the 2 TM on free pass and nada on premium.
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post Jul 2 2017, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jul 2 2017, 03:46 PM)
How many balls did u get?
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only 11, none for gym control.
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post Jul 2 2017, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Jul 2 2017, 05:14 PM)
only 11, none for gym control.
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11 still wanna complain meh
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post Jul 2 2017, 06:21 PM

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With the new update, no gym under attack got smoke and thunder just like old time. 👍
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post Jul 2 2017, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(kww @ Jul 2 2017, 06:21 PM)
With the new update, no gym under attack got smoke and thunder just like old time. 👍
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It was always there.. just that it was semut size pre-update.
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post Jul 2 2017, 06:34 PM

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what's the battle order now??

I just realised that you don't battle the one came in last.

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