Instead of us just cribbing about the current problems with the gym system, I was thinking whether we could actually discuss about it in a separate topic.

Whether it works or not, maybe we could propose our ideas for improvement and possibly email someone like Nick to see if he would bring it up in his videos which has a higher chance of getting Niantic's attention.

So guys, let's talk about what are the current problems and improvements or suggestions on how the gym system can be improved.

Cheers!

Personally, I would like to see:

1) Priority given to person that prestiging a gym to place a pokemon and prevent sniping, similar to when a trainer takes over an opposition team's gym.

2) Consistently ensuring no gym lag - attacking, dodging, swapping, exiting, etc.

Got some other ideas in mind, but what do you guys think?

I think gym revamp is already in progress. Currently my complaint is mostly the server lag issue:
1. Battle can't start, need to restart the game.
2. You dodge but server not catch it yet, your mon end up in dead and alive loop until really dead.

For future , maybe I would like to see:
1. more variety of mon instead of current few that defending gym. Kind of boring, cause you will have the same counter mon to take them out. Really no brainer.
2. CP as gym positioning should change. There are many good mon that are very good (slowking, steelix and etc) not being use because of low CP. over 230 mon gen1+2, but only 10 being use in gym defense is not what I wanted.
3. Pvp should be fun. Let me whack the old ah pek like blissey smashing D9. Slap the shit out of him.

While they shud definitely fix those operational issues like lag, death loop etc, Im actually ok with the current system.

Whatever they do to revamp, there will be complaints, there will be complaints. Its human nature.

Im hoping for consistency rather than revamp. Imo its stupid to play a game whose rules changes all the time

kww , sniper on the roof

On the topic of gym defenders based on cp and seeing more variety, it would be good if say the trainer that took down a gym gets to choose whether the gym is a type-themed (e.g. all water type) based on monster he / she placed, an open gym based on cp like we are used to, or any other method that would add some flavour. Lol...

Nope.. the water gyms gonna be full of gary and vape. Same old same old.

Fact of the matter is whether its ranked by CP or not, folks are still gonna be placing their most survivable mons in gyms and rattatas still not gonna be useful.

Imo.. niantic shud fix rhe fundamentals like gym error, death loop etx before playing God shifting goalpost.

This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Apr 8 2017, 08:43 PM

True to a certain extent. However, there are further tweaks that can be added to prestige points, ranking and rewards, giving multiplying effects to less popular types; which in the long run does promote variety. E.g. less popular types say bug, grass, etc allows trainers to get more bonus, more coins, easier to prestige, etc. My 2 cents bro.

Fixing the fundamentals is definitely crucial, that I agree 100%. Even today after updating the app, when scrolling the mons in a gym near my house the app crashed and auto shut down. Had to reboot app 2x before able to battle.

Actually all needed is just set type advantage to 1.5x kau tim.

All these conversation about Gym Performance / improve kinda going no where unless Niantic :

1) Solve Spoofer & Botter issue ...Botter the worst because they can place their Pokemons anytime in a gym. Get the best Pokemons without even use their phone . ( GYM related )

2) Niantic need to have a Separate Tracker for PokemonGo the reason separate app because Tracker itself scan the area every 5/10 mins this totally lag the game itself so need to be separate apps . This will end all tracking apps & web out there . Again Tracker itself lead people to Spoof . ( game related )

3) Trainertips Nick pretty much wont change anything because he already mentioned a lot his vids how to improve the game itself still the samo samo stuff .. ( game related )


4) The extra features you guys mentions such as PVP or Trading also good options to add . Trading sometimes can lead to Money scam / laundering think about it .
. ( game related )

5) I discarded a lot items from my inventory can you imagine if they offer Xp & stardust discard items that might very useful / helpful . . ( game related )


6 ) Cheaper cost to buy coins ! this personally for myself hehehe ...I wont battle gym for coins cause i buy them ...so cheaper price for buy coins . . ( Personal related )

This post has been edited by JasonTheOneHero: Apr 9 2017, 09:29 AM

A wild thought, what say trainer can place 3 mon in 1 slot, and the highest CP will be place in display, other 2 are hidden. When other want to attack the gym, randomly or some AI (type advantage) 1 of the 3 will be chosen to defend. Right now it is very attacker advantage, you see what in the gym, and choose the best mon in your huge storage.

will the new gym system still be CP based??

I've power-ed up a few pokemons like Snorlax and Blissey but if the new system is not CP-based ranking, then sayang lah...

I loike .... interesting Ideas ... element of suprise

if not gym battle would be lame ...

i had an evil proposal ... same mon cannot be used at the same gym within 2 hours ... then only you need hoards of other mons

None will know until until Niantic roll it out. Maybe start from now you should save your candy and stardust.

Fix gym errors

the thing the SHOULD BE FIXING!!!!
is the bug where u ady dodge the charge move but end up ur mon die!!!
thats annoying af

That's death loop

But it justifies using hyperbeam defender though

This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Apr 9 2017, 01:12 PM

not only HB almost all other charge move too

Lol... that's an interesting concept... would definitely be trickier but also involve leaving more mons in gyms...
I wouldn't mind the AI swapping when battling opposition gyms, but imagine trying to prestige own team's gyms... that's going to a be pain man... Lol...

For training, niantic can program to use the one holding gym. That's mean for same team, what you see is what you get.

Yeah... wouldn't mind that... would be kinda interesting to see...