Guys, starting out this topic in advance so that we can discuss about the latest gym update that will be released.

Our previous discussion thread on possible revamp - https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4257267

Announcement by Niantic on gym closure as below
(Source: https://support.pokemongo.nianticlabs.com/hc/en-us)

Im hyped

It's better than manually selecting a team all the time and dealing with sprites being loaded/lag.

But auto-select keep insisting rhydon shud be in the list.

#quitgym
niantic so called new update better game play is their money digging plan
1 hours = 1 coin and only collect-able when mon return lol

and the cycle is endless if one keep feeding, one keep attacking

only bag
mons storage still no

Firstly... I was hyped just like everyone else but my first battle ended up with app crash. So first impression was bad.

And its awful for players in an area dominated by different team.

Like this morning I arrive at the office earlier because I tried to take this new gym nearby. Battled for awhile and then soome other likeminded folks arrived so we tok kok while battle.

1 guy was instinct while another 2 guy was valor like me. Battled for dunno how long di but mons keep getting topped up until all of us gave up. In the previous system, we would've long taken down a blissey stack di.

Then the battling itself feels boring and un-involving with health bar going up and down all the time. Didn't Niantic say they're not fixing the death loop as the update will fix it?

Death loop can be anticipated and worked around but the current state of gym battling is like the health bar/charge bar is going all over the place.. up and down. Never in any point of time I can be sure of how much damage I dealt or taken.

It's more frustrating rather than challenging.

Pls don't take it as bragging.. it's not...but I didn't even bother to pick attackers.. just autoselect and never once I felt that I need more than 2 mons to complete one round.

But its frustrating cos no matter how many times I clear the defenders... they just get fed berries and more defenders being added in.

Last time cheaters can stagnate gyms but even lowly solo players like myself could take them down but now can't even dent it.

By the way, that near office gym is still standing with the same mons inside and forever close to full motivation meter.

While my motivation meter is close to empty.

Oh.. and lastly... you know I don't really care about coins and I'm glad to shell out real $$ whenever I feel like it.

This update made me feel like I'm being made a fool... if the reduction from 10coins every 21 hours if you bothered to battle to 1 pokecoin per hour is not blatant enough.. now they selll max revives and max pots in the shop.

Answering my own question and share just in case interested.

Based on current survey, the current drop rate for TM's per Raid tier are as follows

Tier 1 Raids
0 TM  - 89%
1 TM  - 9%
2+TM - 1%

Tier 2 Raids
0 TM  - 86%
1 TM  - 13%
2+TM - 1%

Tier 3 Raids
0 TM  - 60%
1 TM  - 30%
2+TM - 10%

Tier 4 Raids
0 TM  - 36%
1 TM  - 35%
2+TM - 29%

i only got 1 each of fast and charged TM on the 1st 2 days of raid. btw, how did you guy catch ttar? join 2 raid and both finish up my premier ball and ran away.

i threw mostly greatball but fella kept breaking it...ran 2 ttar already..just frustrating only...

Which Raid Boss did u successfully solo-ed?
How many Machamp are you planning to level up?

I use Charged TM on my Submission Machamp and got CC, not sure if i should try my luck to get DP. Do you think CC is comparable to DP?

I'm not sure of the exact mechanics but there was once I raided a gym and was the only valorian there. That's the only time I didn't get 11x premier balkls.

He somehow fail to grasp the concept of attack stats. Even murkrow has higher attack stats than umbreon 

Dark type Attk/Def/Sta compared

Ttar - 251/212/200
Houndoom 224/159/150
Umbreon 126/250/190
Murkrow 175/87/120

HI guys, just got my first experience raiding a snorlax gym boss. me lvl 30 with pokemons like d9,rhydon,gyrados,exxeg,lapras and typholsion still cannot take down it eventhough was paired up with another level 33 guy. Still hunting my first snorlax tho...any advice?was pouting and frowning all night because of this..

what's everyone's buddy now??

today the drop of TM is NIL for me.

worse still, people just quit when found the lvl 4 gym is a char.

looks like need to wait for anniversary to really raid the boss.

saw a lvl4 Snorlax around 9.30am this morning, but I was the only one there.

even though I got 2 accounts, I don't think I can take down snorlax with just 2 machamp in each account.

Niantic needs to do something about this lah... if no ppl how?? Lower the CP lah ....

It was always there.. just that it was semut size pre-update.

Which charge move is better for double rock golem?

RT / SE or RT / RB

I have RT / RB, not sure whether to apply Charged TM to try my luck.
Thanks for the useful tip