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TSBliss8099
post Mar 26 2007, 01:02 PM, updated 19y ago

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Hi all, for anyone that is currently on Frostmourne Alliance side, me and a couple of friends have just set up a new guild for some casual fun. This is for those who wish to have some casual raiding fun in the near future. We have officers that have lots of experience from hardcore raiding and used to be in the top guilds in Frostmourne. We are looking to train up new members to experience some raid content. We prefer people in the Malaysian, Singaporean time zone to come join us as our guild is mainly consisting of people from that time zone.

P/S - If you are interested, please PM either me (Sisterbliss) or Erika in-game.

Cheers

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Gladys
post Mar 26 2007, 01:08 PM

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u mean ID ? or ? i tot u in oracle ???
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post Mar 26 2007, 02:13 PM

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I left ID already... hehe started one guild on my own with some RL friends... come join me la berry berry heheh bring your friends along. Once we get enough people we will begin Karazhan...
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post Mar 26 2007, 02:41 PM

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i tot few days ago i saw u in oracle or something.

see how la.. im famous guildless supporter.. this month already gquit 4 times eidi doh.gif
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post Mar 26 2007, 02:55 PM

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Lol no i was never in Oracle... now just in a guild filled with low levels... going to train them up for raiding... come help us la...we got lots of girls in the guild...well a few la hehe

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post Mar 26 2007, 03:06 PM

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what's the name of ur new guild?
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post Mar 26 2007, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(Bliss8099 @ Mar 26 2007, 02:55 PM)
Lol no i was never in Oracle... now just in a guild filled with low levels... going to train them up for raiding... come help us la...we got lots of girls in the guild...well a few la hehe
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if not seen or myremi no interested la. i enjoy to be the QUEEN if without both of them. other girls is yawn.gif to me shakehead.gif


QUOTE(Paine @ Mar 26 2007, 03:06 PM)
what's the name of ur new guild?
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ya lor, good Q ! wat's ur guild name ?
nice then i'll consider brows.gif

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post Mar 26 2007, 03:14 PM

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if there's enuf ppl for 10-man or 25-man., i'll join ya wink.gif
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post Mar 26 2007, 03:18 PM

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Currently too many low levels to make a 10-25 man. I will be teaching them to fully raid when they have reached the level... done the entire Karazhan myself and have pretty much have experience on Gruul itself. So yeah it will be from scratch but we learn as a guild not the elitist way. And plus, it's mainly malaysians in the guild it will just be easier to communicate and meet up.
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post Mar 26 2007, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(Bliss8099 @ Mar 26 2007, 03:18 PM)
Currently too many low levels to make a 10-25 man. I will be teaching them to fully raid when they have reached the level... done the entire Karazhan myself and have pretty much have experience on Gruul itself. So yeah it will be from scratch but we learn as a guild not the elitist way. And plus, it's mainly malaysians in the guild it will just be easier to communicate and meet up.
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too many low lvls? lvl range btw 60~70 or..??
btw... what is ur new guild name? LoL laugh.gif
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post Mar 26 2007, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(Paine @ Mar 26 2007, 03:14 PM)
if there's enuf ppl for 10-man or 25-man., i'll join ya wink.gif
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: O : O another FM, who r u ?? identify urself laugh.gif

QUOTE(Bliss8099 @ Mar 26 2007, 03:18 PM)
Currently too many low levels to make a 10-25 man. I will be teaching them to fully raid when they have reached the level... done the entire Karazhan myself and have pretty much have experience on Gruul itself. So yeah it will be from scratch but we learn as a guild not the elitist way. And plus, it's mainly malaysians in the guild it will just be easier to communicate and meet up.
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so what is ur guild name?

where got so ez train ler.. some class for example like lock, normal instance some of them cant even do good CC, shadow priest fighint with mage @ dps meter..
later u vomit blood need to enter hospital then GG shocking.gif
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post Mar 26 2007, 03:28 PM

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Message me in-game tonight and we will discuss... gotta go for now...
learning together as friends is where the fun is at hehe... just chill and always remember its casual raiding. For me, I am kind of sick of being the top guild in the server like before. Very stressful and hardly have any time for anything else.
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post Mar 26 2007, 03:40 PM

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ur name always pop : sisterbliss is now online n then the very next second <afk>sisterbliss , not long after :sisterbliss is now offline.

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post Mar 26 2007, 10:57 PM

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LoL..
Erika was in a guild dunno call what what Zakura ..??

what's that ?

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AaronHo
post Mar 27 2007, 01:23 PM

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Hello
Can i like join the raid to help out?
I won't need the items but to learn more about karazhan or gruul?

Priest by the way...
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post Mar 28 2007, 10:12 AM

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i never see any 70s in Senbozakura guild., wonder how are u going to raid karazhan. blink.gif
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post Mar 28 2007, 10:35 AM

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There are currently 3 70s in the guild and some from LYN have just joined us with experience. Like I have said earlier, this is a casual raiding guild. I myself have had full on experience on Karazhan and I will be the one giving out the strat on Karazhan encounters. I am on my alt hunter in the mean time as my main (Mage) is pretty much geared up and done most of what there is to do. Hunter currently is 61.


Added on March 28, 2007, 10:37 amAaronHo, ur nick in-game? Come join us la, mainly Malaysians anyway.

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post Mar 28 2007, 10:50 AM

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My toon named Fhamos in Divine Destiny Guild

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post Mar 28 2007, 11:25 AM

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lol fhamos, i remember u ! join us mc or zg cant remembere when u're 59 but gone soon after u're 60..
but i tot DD is kinda hard core raiding guild ? corlene almost everynite farming raiding .



senbozankuraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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post Mar 28 2007, 11:26 AM

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Gladys no.1 gquitter
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post Mar 28 2007, 11:31 AM

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Haha now the guild become a casual guild already... hardcore is depend on the players now. Yeah Corlene really hardcore person day and night farming biggrin.gif

Glayds: Hmm... i think that's not me.... i transfer from kil'jaeden when i was level 60... so its impossible i am level 59 in frostmourne hahaha

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post Mar 28 2007, 11:35 AM

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bring them people over la... we wanna begin Karazhan asap

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post Mar 28 2007, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(Bliss8099 @ Mar 28 2007, 11:26 AM)
Gladys no.1 gquitter
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eh ?? wtf ?? >"<

QUOTE(AaronHo @ Mar 28 2007, 11:31 AM)
Haha now the guild become a casual guild already... hardcore is depend on the players now. Yeah Corlene really hardcore person day and night farming  biggrin.gif

Glayds: Hmm... i think that's not me.... i transfer from kil'jaeden when i was level 60... so its impossible i am level 59 in frostmourne hahaha
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hmmm ... i remember a shadow priest name similiar to fhamos or something.. anyways, my mistake then smile.gif day tme impostible la, he got to work.

QUOTE(Bliss8099 @ Mar 28 2007, 11:35 AM)
bring them people over la... we wanna begin Karazhan asap
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teach me attune GL 1st
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post Mar 28 2007, 11:44 AM

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You want to combine guild to run Kara?
But we can't form a second group to run due to...
Well not enough people keyed
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post Mar 28 2007, 11:46 AM

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form my understanding, i bet will he use "combine"

lol.. dun dream, esp a momochacha in ur guild the famous dumbass.

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post Mar 28 2007, 11:52 AM

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Haha didn't see him online quite long already tongue.gif
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post Mar 28 2007, 11:54 AM

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frostmourne huh...i just rolled a rogue there. lol but only lvl 14...go to westfall then sien ady...
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post Mar 28 2007, 11:57 AM

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i'ma hunter lvl70. if got enuf ppl, let's start a kara group then.
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QUOTE(AaronHo @ Mar 28 2007, 11:52 AM)
Haha didn't see him online quite long already tongue.gif
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maybe QQ at some corner. doh.gif

QUOTE(calvinteh @ Mar 28 2007, 11:54 AM)
frostmourne huh...i just rolled a rogue there. lol but only lvl 14...go to westfall then sien ady...
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sweat.gif horde??


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post Mar 28 2007, 12:23 PM

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Combine i'm fine with it... we don't need to get a 2nd kara group. Get one core group to go first and we can sub in whenever. WoW is for everyone to have fun and learn the encounters. So send me a PM tonight if you are interested in joining guilds.

PST to Sisterbliss or Kuga.
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QUOTE(Gladys @ Mar 28 2007, 12:03 PM)
maybe QQ at some corner.  doh.gif 
sweat.gif  horde??
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a gnome rogue. and plus i hate gnomes. but i have no choice coz i wanmna do pvp and these blardy things so small ppl find it hard to aim... lol
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QUOTE(calvinteh @ Mar 28 2007, 01:20 PM)
a gnome rogue. and plus i hate gnomes. but i have no choice coz i wanmna do pvp and these blardy things so small ppl find it hard to aim... lol
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yeah specially when they are invinsible haha same with mage too. thumbup.gif
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post Mar 28 2007, 03:50 PM

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ei come karazan tonite.
my saved is reset today.
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post Mar 28 2007, 03:52 PM

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If there is enough people we would go... Gladys ur experience in Kara is up to where?
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post Mar 28 2007, 03:56 PM

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opera romiooooooooo n juliaaaaaaaa . i only been there 3 times. 1st time QC<damm the RL voice is so sexy rclxub.gif > 2 time with TFC.

<< holy spec.
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post Mar 28 2007, 04:11 PM

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romulo n julianne is made much easier this time. no more double bolt kills on ur mt, no more surprise charms on your mt. no more spike dmg bravery buff that 2 shots your mt. but considering the loots from R&J i wish u all the best in getting something else ^^
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but u cant skip it to the next one isnt ?

considering no blablabla as u sad, but still mage to spellsteal ? wiped 1 time coz no ppl spell steal then mt 3 shot byebye..
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hmm
mage spell steal is optional, but it should be priest and shamans dispelling/purge as soon as its up. detect magic helps, but if u got boss mods or if ur priests and shamans are spamming the dispels in between casts it should be ok.
spell steal costs 800 mana, and they recast the buff like every 45 secs... kinda not worth it dontcha think. just get julianne's buff for the boost in dps.

and no sadly u cant skip. i got R&J 3 weeks in a row...
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Gladys: you gquit your old guild ?

I can join if my guild decided not to take me in for Kara today
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QUOTE(sets84 @ Mar 28 2007, 04:30 PM)
hmm
mage spell steal is optional, but it should be priest and shamans dispelling/purge as soon as its up. detect magic helps, but if u got boss mods or if ur priests and shamans are spamming the dispels in between casts it should be ok.
spell steal costs 800 mana, and they recast the buff like every 45 secs... kinda not worth it dontcha think. just get julianne's buff for the boost in dps.

and no sadly u cant skip. i got R&J 3 weeks in a row...
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problem is 1 pally 1 priest ler? doh.gif n then 1 fire 1 arcane 1 frost mage. n then u wait me i wait u, wipe x1 LOL..

QUOTE(AaronHo @ Mar 28 2007, 04:45 PM)
Gladys: you gquit your old guild ?

I can join if my guild decided not to take me in for Kara today
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which guild u refer to rolleyes.gif ?
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post Mar 28 2007, 04:53 PM

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I WANT GLADYS!!!!!!!

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post Mar 28 2007, 04:54 PM

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ahhh what about warlocks? u can get the warlock to use his felhunter put it on auto atk and auto dispel on julianne. priests focus on romulo. who is your 3rd healer?
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QUOTE(Gladys @ Mar 28 2007, 04:52 PM)
which guild u refer to  rolleyes.gif  ?
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But you going to enter bliss's guild?
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QUOTE(Bliss8099 @ Mar 28 2007, 04:53 PM)
I WANT GLADYS!!!!!!!
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how much ?

QUOTE(sets84 @ Mar 28 2007, 04:54 PM)
ahhh what about warlocks? u can get the warlock to use his felhunter put it on auto atk and auto dispel on julianne. priests focus on romulo. who is your 3rd healer?
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pally MT + OT
h.priest OT + raid.

warlock ar? i dono wat he is doing. most of the time my eyes focus on raid HP casting heal.. tab tab tab n check who is agro bubble renew blablabla.

3rd healer maybe is the OT? the druid.. LOL =.=!!
or another priest who is suppose in main raid but then dono y n then balbal..


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I don't know much about you.
But you going to enter bliss's guild?
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he dun want me.. coz he kno how many gquit i have this month rolleyes.gif

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post Mar 28 2007, 05:16 PM

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Who say I don't want... I scared you dont want join only lol... remind you it's a casual guild just for trash talking and mainly letting the new guys and experienced ones level up their twinks. So don't be emoing if you wanna join lol.
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can i join gquit join gquit join gquit ? blush.gif brows.gif


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QUOTE(Gladys @ Mar 28 2007, 05:29 PM)
can i join gquit join gquit join gquit ? blush.gif brows.gif
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i see now why bliss know how many times you /gquit rclxms.gif

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not really, so far i havn gquit the same guild twice b4.. im gonna give away my virginity to him brows.gif
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post Mar 28 2007, 05:49 PM

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lol... ill see you tonight then Gladys... yum cha on me sometime hehe

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that day no name come yam cha y u no follow?

that fella all the way from setapak doh.gif
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u need around 3 healers for karazhan
2 tanks
3healers ..
1 melee
4range dps

but then again thats the most nice group u can mix of

but ..
my guild did wiz of oz with 4melee dps warriors .. and they tried like 20times ... finally manage to down him
but .. its not advisible to waste so much time n effort on this boss because u wanna bring 4dps warriors lol
best is find a optimum team smile.gif


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hmm 3 healers would be wise and 1 more druid (tank/dps/offheal)...

1 prot warrior
1 mage
1 lock
1 shadow priest
1 rogue
1 hunter

then again if ur restricted to 2 healers due to slack in that department, then it's gona be tough =(
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post Mar 29 2007, 10:22 AM

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who is no name? lol

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Walau your guild very accomodating laa..

All these damn TBC instances with bosses with AOE and 360 degree cleaves mean melee DPS get the shaft. If more than 1 rogue or DPS warrior sign up, they will get a lot of bad language from rest of the raid and have to duel for the raid spots smile.gif

One quote got stickied into the warrior forums in my guild website:
"U no tank, U no raid" - exaggeration, but not by much mad.gif

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my guild did wiz of oz with 4melee dps warriors .. and they tried like 20times ... finally manage to down him
but .. its not advisible to waste so much time n effort on this boss because u wanna bring 4dps warriors lol
best is find a optimum team smile.gif
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melee dpsers will still rock depending on how u play them
and with the hotfix to make cleaves only 180 degrees, you can see lots of fury warriors and rogues being taken back in. i never believe in pure range dpser's, take a look at aran's fight... that's a fight made for melees
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sets84 : i tend to get very stressed about those cleaves/aoes since becoming a resto tree. my prefered choice is 2 melee + 2 range DPS + 1 healer party mode. having 3 melee classes puts a lot of stress on a healer who still have to gear up.

and a bit nervous when i level my priest up that high. when i compare her to my resto druid, thinking of healing strat is making my head hurt a lot. ><
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yeah 3 melees in 5 mans is indeed stressful. usually 1 tank 1 rogue/enchance shaman/druid is all that is needed.

you're having troubles about adapting strategies for healing? i'm having troubles changing from a dpser to a healer now. My bro decides that in the end he doesn't have the heart to heal (he's the main tank healer, and also the mage healer for maulgar), and i have to swap characters with him. on top of that, i have less than a week to adapt to everything.

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QUOTE(Bliss8099 @ Mar 29 2007, 10:22 AM)
who is no name? lol
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we dun find hard with 2 healer (1pally ofcoz, 1 h.preist)
the only thing that need to work up is the timing of CS, kick, blabla..
(we r talking abt romio~~~~~~~ julia~~~~ oh oh oh~~ rite? ) but yea maiden if with 2 healer is hard hard n hard..

i dun like to heal too.. but our healadin mia T_T spent too much $$ on gearing guess will stay @ healing spec di.. unsure.gif
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hmm its ok with 2 healers for the first few bosses i guess. but for bosses onwards like aran, prince, netherspite etc
u need 3 healers at least, prince 4 (1 hybrid will do), netherspite - confirm 3, illhoof - 3 no less no more.
prince hits hard on a good tank, spike dmgs of 11k in between the cd of shield blocks happen all too often (this is one reason why pallies cannot tank) and on top of htat some of your healers are avoiding infernals. aran.... blizzard. flame wreath. is all about the healing positions and the immobility of due to circumstances. illhoof... u need 2 healers on the shackled person and 1 off healing during shackles.

and for mualgar... u need 9 healers, where ur hybrids from karazhan have to respec to healing for the first few encounters with him. it's all about sacrificing for the good of the guild.
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would you believe that i haven't been to karazhan yet? happy.gif

just taking it easy atm. i get stressed too easily if i do hardcore stuff. plus, i stop running with pugs and waiting for spots in guild groups.

it was more like learning the 5-man instances. mechanar was a pain to heal in Tree Form. in the end, i just maintained everyone's health at 20%-50%. HTs were draining too much mana from me and someone else was dying more.

Not sure why it was going wrong. We started off with 1 prot tank, 1 feral druid DPS, 1 fire/arcane mage, 1 rogue, me healing. It was tough to handle 3 ppl healing in melee. When we swapped the rogue with another mage, it was easier for me.

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/?#charac...27Thul&n=Synxia

I'm not fully resto yet because still clearing quite a lot of quests in Shadowmoon Valley and Netherstorm. My DPS output got reduced by 50% with the resto respec. sad.gif

Mechanar hurts me. I get the feeling that Botanic and Alcatraz will be equally bad. sad.gif Ah well. Until can get better gear I suppose.
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QUOTE(sets84 @ Mar 29 2007, 03:31 PM)
hmm its ok with 2 healers for the first few bosses i guess. but for bosses onwards like aran, prince, netherspite etc
u need 3 healers at least, prince 4 (1 hybrid will do), netherspite - confirm 3, illhoof - 3 no less no more.
prince hits hard on a good tank, spike dmgs of 11k in between the cd of shield blocks happen all too often (this is one reason why pallies cannot tank) and on top of htat some of your healers are avoiding infernals. aran.... blizzard. flame wreath. is all about the healing positions and the immobility of due to circumstances. illhoof... u need 2 healers on the shackled person and 1 off healing during shackles.

and for mualgar... u need 9 healers, where ur hybrids from karazhan have to respec to healing for the first few encounters with him. it's all about sacrificing for the good of the guild.
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jk..

lualgar 9 healer? shocking.gif shocking.gif sound fun eh.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(sets84 @ Mar 29 2007, 03:31 PM)
hmm its ok with 2 healers for the first few bosses i guess. but for bosses onwards like aran, prince, netherspite etc
u need 3 healers at least, prince 4 (1 hybrid will do), netherspite - confirm 3, illhoof - 3 no less no more.
prince hits hard on a good tank, spike dmgs of 11k in between the cd of shield blocks happen all too often (this is one reason why pallies cannot tank) and on top of htat some of your healers are avoiding infernals. aran.... blizzard. flame wreath. is all about the healing positions and the immobility of due to circumstances. illhoof... u need 2 healers on the shackled person and 1 off healing during shackles.

and for mualgar... u need 9 healers, where ur hybrids from karazhan have to respec to healing for the first few encounters with him. it's all about sacrificing for the good of the guild.
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hmmmmm.... that many healers? oh boy. ><

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QUOTE(myremi @ Mar 29 2007, 03:52 PM)
would you believe that i haven't been to karazhan yet? happy.gif

just taking it easy atm. i get stressed too easily if i do hardcore stuff. plus, i stop running with pugs and waiting for spots in guild groups.

it was more like learning the 5-man instances. mechanar was a pain to heal in Tree Form. in the end, i just maintained everyone's health at 20%-50%. HTs were draining too much mana from me and someone else was dying more.

Not sure why it was going wrong. We started off with 1 prot tank, 1 feral druid DPS, 1 fire/arcane mage, 1 rogue, me healing. It was tough to handle 3 ppl healing in melee. When we swapped the rogue with another mage, it was easier for me.

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/?#charac...27Thul&n=Synxia

I'm not fully resto yet because still clearing quite a lot of quests in Shadowmoon Valley and Netherstorm. My DPS output got reduced by 50% with the resto respec. sad.gif

Mechanar hurts me. I get the feeling that Botanic and Alcatraz will be equally bad. sad.gif Ah well. Until can get better gear I suppose.
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normal or heroic ? i found it hard @ heroic the robot fight .. they do really hit super duper hard. like u owe em few bilion

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hehe, haven't been into heroic yet. like i said, i'm not in a rush. the last game i rushed into, made me into a strange zombie. don't want that to happen again.
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QUOTE(myremi @ Mar 29 2007, 03:52 PM)
would you believe that i haven't been to karazhan yet? happy.gif

just taking it easy atm. i get stressed too easily if i do hardcore stuff. plus, i stop running with pugs and waiting for spots in guild groups.

it was more like learning the 5-man instances. mechanar was a pain to heal in Tree Form. in the end, i just maintained everyone's health at 20%-50%. HTs were draining too much mana from me and someone else was dying more.

Not sure why it was going wrong. We started off with 1 prot tank, 1 feral druid DPS, 1 fire/arcane mage, 1 rogue, me healing. It was tough to handle 3 ppl healing in melee. When we swapped the rogue with another mage, it was easier for me.

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/?#charac...27Thul&n=Synxia

I'm not fully resto yet because still clearing quite a lot of quests in Shadowmoon Valley and Netherstorm. My DPS output got reduced by 50% with the resto respec. sad.gif

Mechanar hurts me. I get the feeling that Botanic and Alcatraz will be equally bad. sad.gif Ah well. Until can get better gear I suppose.
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to be honest with you, you need better healing gear. If you have better feral gear now I think you should go 5man as a bear then start collecting healing gear piece by piece then respec back to restore smile.gif

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go feral , tree form is a joke
go to karazhan get healer gear then progress from there
pre serpentshrine cavern there is no real need for druid healers
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QUOTE(Gladys @ Mar 29 2007, 03:57 PM)
normal or heroic ? i found it hard @ heroic the robot fight .. they do really hit super duper hard. like u owe em few bilion
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Robot fight means the first boss?
actually heroic mechanar is the easiest among the 3 i feel ..

for that robot fight u need to know ur charge whether ur Negative or postitive.. and if u mix = 2k dmg / sec

then again i 1shotted mechanar heroic with a

1 Druid Tank with someT4 gears
1 Hunter
1 Shaman healer but try to dps abit
1 hybrid priest = me
1 mage


we pretty much have no problem till the 2nd boss where by those 3 fire elemental is locked on to the traget and they wont leave u untile the boss is dead
so if uget them .. basically ur job is to kite them again n again till the boss is dead... from time to time u dps .. other than that u just have to kite

and just pray that not both ur healers or ur mage kena .. if not .. GG lol


last boss was pretty much like non heroic mode... just that he drops epic

very fun instance infact .. 2 healers is good to go i tink .. but i havent try solo healing ..

the onli heroic i tried solo healed is ramparts .. slavepens ..and blood furnance ...


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QUOTE(sets84 @ Mar 29 2007, 04:07 PM)
ahaha... err then maybe i can post here?

WTB Healers kara attuned, guild Triad.. server barthilas. msg Sets, Kudou, Raggnar, Hallokitty, Srai, Treefrog =p.
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WTS Lvl 70 priest attuned to kara .. have all heroic keys .. and geared well , able server transfer too ...
but i m from PVE : (

lol


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QUOTE(xiaosin @ Mar 29 2007, 06:05 PM)
to be honest with you, you need better healing gear. If you have better feral gear now I think you should go 5man as a bear then start collecting healing gear piece by piece then respec back to restore  smile.gif
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Yeah, I'm seriously thinking about it. I only recently spec to Resto because the guild had problems finding a main healer for non-heroic instances. Even horde side is bad atm in Aman'Thul but heard that we're better off than Dath'Remar.

At the rate I'm going, I'd probably get keyed for Heroics without ever finishing non-Heroics.

And I miss feral form. Now I can't hit for sh*t.

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Yeah, I'm seriously thinking about it. I only recently spec to Resto because the guild had problems finding a main healer for non-heroic instances. Even horde side is bad atm in Aman'Thul but heard that we're better off than Dath'Remar.

At the rate I'm going, I'd probably get keyed for Heroics without ever finishing non-Heroics.

And I miss feral form. Now I can't hit for sh*t.
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I was from aman'thul too. I still remembered how hard it was to get a good group to complete an instance. But I left that server when my friends invited me to a new guild.

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hmm its ok with 2 healers for the first few bosses i guess. but for bosses onwards like aran, prince, netherspite etc
u need 3 healers at least, prince 4 (1 hybrid will do), netherspite - confirm 3, illhoof - 3 no less no more.
prince hits hard on a good tank, spike dmgs of 11k in between the cd of shield blocks happen all too often (this is one reason why pallies cannot tank) and on top of htat some of your healers are avoiding infernals. aran.... blizzard. flame wreath. is all about the healing positions and the immobility of due to circumstances. illhoof... u need 2 healers on the shackled person and 1 off healing during shackles.

and for mualgar... u need 9 healers, where ur hybrids from karazhan have to respec to healing for the first few encounters with him. it's all about sacrificing for the good of the guild.
hmm just some tips

Curse of Weakness works on king maulgar ^^.
Curse of Tongues works on the priest.
Piercing howl works on the felhound that the lock will summon.

and for prince theres a place that infernals will never reach *wink wink*
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1. CoW used
2. CoT of course used
3. CoS + skillcoil + enslave is pretty much enough. no need to waste a warrior on the doggy.

4. There are lots of magic spots on prince. Not just 1. =p


heroic mechanar is okay. its tough if u dont know how to do it, easy if u know how. go to the last boss first, skip the 2nd boss. then after u down the last boss, get 1 person to aggro the fire ele and pull it all the way to the 3rd boss's room.

anyway prince was being a ******* again, dropped the trash loot GoreHowl...

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QUOTE(xiaosin @ Mar 30 2007, 10:32 AM)
I was from aman'thul too. I still remembered how hard it was to get a good group to complete an instance. But I left that server when my friends invited me to a new guild.
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Still is hard to find a good group in Aman'Thul. But I suspect some of the other Oceanic PvE servers are having problems too. They seem to be jumping to Aman'Thul alot recently and I think some friends have been switching around too, so it's very bleargh.

Sorry bliss, hijack your thread a bit. ><
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HAHAH HONG YOU HORNY BASTID !!!!

marock still > you..

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zzz...thread has gone so off topic... sigh.

and Marock is just a piece of junk go die la u
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QUOTE(Kyogezsho @ Mar 29 2007, 10:47 PM)
Robot fight means the first boss?
actually heroic mechanar is the easiest among the 3 i feel ..

for that robot fight u need to know ur charge whether ur Negative or postitive.. and if u mix = 2k dmg / sec

then again i 1shotted mechanar heroic with a

1 Druid Tank with someT4 gears
1 Hunter
1 Shaman healer but try to dps abit
1 hybrid priest = me
1 mage
we pretty much have no problem till the 2nd boss where by those 3 fire elemental is locked on to the traget and they wont leave u untile the boss is dead
so if uget them .. basically ur job is to kite them again n again till the boss is dead... from time to time u dps .. other than that u just have to kite

and just pray that not both ur healers or ur mage kena .. if not .. GG lol
last boss was pretty much like non heroic mode... just that he drops epic

very fun instance infact .. 2 healers is good to go i tink .. but i havent try solo healing ..

the onli heroic i tried solo healed is ramparts .. slavepens ..and blood furnance ...


Added on March 29, 2007, 10:48 pm

WTS Lvl 70 priest attuned to kara .. have all heroic keys .. and geared well , able server transfer too ...
but i m from PVE : (

lol
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bosses in h.mec are ez. the robot, i mean the trash mob robot. wat name is it? hmm... as a cacat priest, i can solo heal, yet the 3rd boss come in wave, the 2nd wave is the robot n i had hard time to regent mana whle there is no another priest mc to drink (well it cant be mc either way)..
like u said, its either mage counter spell, lock cot, or its a GG-ed.
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sisterikanbiliss !!!!!!!! do you miss my melodies?  drool.gif
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the lock ????? i once see u n honor hold or something..

QUOTE(Bliss8099 @ Apr 2 2007, 10:43 AM)
zzz...thread has gone so off topic... sigh.

and Marock is just a piece of junk go die la u
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shakehead.gif kesian nia
btw, that other day, TQ n sry lol
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btw, that other day, TQ n sry lol


SO SWEET, im sure his touched drool.gif
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zzzz Sei Marock...go be a good boy and help your dad in your job and stay away thanks.
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lol bliss bliss is so frus today..

come come karazhan tonite brows.gif

i want prince the hamme light something icon_rolleyes.gif
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Lol with who? TFC?...please make sure the correct class balance is there... don't go with 4 priests again pls.
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I need some tips on Curator fight. For priests, do we need arcane resistance gear or just go on with normal gear?
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doh.gif doh.gif not i form 1 ma..

if i form, 1 mt 1 ot 1 frost 1 fire 1 arcane 1 lock 1 pally 1 balblal wateva
class BUT WILL HAVE 1 PRIEST ONLY, so i NINJA the hammer !!!

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i dono go with who yet ..the saved just reset today.

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QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 4 2007, 02:35 PM)
doh.gif doh.gif  not i form 1 ma..

if i form, 1 mt 1 ot  1 frost 1 fire 1 arcane 1 lock 1 pally 1 balblal wateva
class BUT WILL HAVE 1 PRIEST ONLY, so i NINJA the hammer !!!
HAHA than either Druid or Pally will NINJA your hammer. brows.gif
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nah find a feral druid not tree form druid,

pally hmmm.......... hmm.gif bribe him imo ? >"<

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NAH .......MASTER LOOTS !!! GGed >"< icon_idea.gif

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hmm.gif Nevermind invite me into Kara and i will pass the hammer to you if drop. icon_idea.gif
By the way, Gladys do you normally wear arcane resist during curator?
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wat's ur name again(in-game)? i only remember the DD or something.. u no yet have a spot to raid yet?

i dun really wear.. majority still on +healing gear. although hmm jc can craft some resisstence ring. normally go on pot like heroic.black moras, shadow resist pot yada yada... cant affort to change gear... @_@"
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QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 4 2007, 03:26 PM)
wat's ur name again(in-game)?  i only remember the DD or something.. u no yet have a spot to raid yet? 
Name Fhamos. Well usually got spot in raid. But i feel like wanna give others a chance to go through it once. We down till R&J.

QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 4 2007, 03:26 PM)
i dun really wear.. majority still on +healing gear. although hmm jc can craft some resisstence ring.  normally go on pot like heroic.black moras, shadow resist pot yada yada... cant affort to change gear...  @_@"
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I see. Thanks.
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so i asume u're holy priest eh?

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QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 4 2007, 03:41 PM)
so i asume u're holy priest eh?
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Yeah correct and pure one too. biggrin.gif
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pure one... lol doh.gif

im cacat one. +1570 only doh.gif

if got go n holy spot then pm u tonite... smile.gif

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Don't worry, I am worst 1200+ healing only
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how can i stay away from anything that has to do with frostmourne .. oh god

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QUOTE(Kalimuthu @ Apr 4 2007, 04:19 PM)
how can i stay away from anything that has to do with frostmourne .. oh god
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hmm.gif Don't enter this section? sad.gif

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anyways, im lookng forward on +2k b4 i spec n change gear into dps..
cbf to stay in holy.


who is kalimuthu ?


OI BLISSSSSS ..
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Member of ID, if i remember correctly in FM too.
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member? i was the god in ID, bliss used to be my whore ..

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I need some tips on Curator fight. For priests, do we need arcane resistance gear or just go on with normal gear?
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normal gear is fine. What are your dps classes? if you have 2 prot tank warriors ur screwed. Always apply this rule, 1 warrior & 1 hybrid tank (preferbally druid).

dps has to be fast here, get everybody to make a macro for /target astral. assign a hateful bolt eater, preferbally a combat rogue as he can dps hard and fast. 100 ar on him is a bonus.

Here's our line up.

Prot warrior

Combat rogue
UA warlocks x 2 (although ruin locks would do very nicely here)
kitty mew mew dpser
shadow priest
hunter

pally
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priest


pally should be on main tank, priest and shamans on spot heals. get all casters in 1 group and use concentration aura.

the prot would tank the curator with the back of the curator facing the entrance of where u came from. The hunter would be behind the warrior but in range for healers and the others all would "STACK" at one point behind the curator. DPS adds, this is your main priority. Rogue should be on curator and called for backup in case there are too many adds to handle. no dots! every1 should burst dps. including your shadow priest. mind blast + shadow word death + mind blast = power burst dmg. remember to dps down the last add when curator evocates before goin on to the curator.

shaman would just chain heal. curator hits like a girl. 3k at most on teh tank. and here is from a pally POV. save your loh for the 15% enrage. that's if you have improved loh, if not dont bother. what i would do is wait for enrage throw loh and then use fel mana potion. 20k armor on your tank makes even melchazaar's hit a joke.
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QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 6 2007, 02:18 AM)
normal gear is fine. What are your dps classes? if you have 2 prot tank warriors ur screwed. Always apply this rule, 1 warrior & 1 hybrid tank (preferbally druid).

dps has to be fast here, get everybody to make a macro for /target astral. assign a hateful bolt eater, preferbally a combat rogue as he can dps hard and fast. 100 ar on him is a bonus.

Here's our line up.

Prot warrior

Combat rogue
UA warlocks x 2 (although ruin locks would do very nicely here)
kitty mew mew dpser
shadow priest
hunter

pally
shaman
priest
pally should be on main tank, priest and shamans on spot heals. get all casters in 1 group and use concentration aura.

the prot would tank the curator with the back of the curator facing the entrance of where u came from. The hunter would be behind the warrior but in range for healers and the others all would "STACK" at one point behind the curator. DPS adds, this is your main priority. Rogue should be on curator and called for backup in case there are too many adds to handle. no dots! every1 should burst dps. including your shadow priest. mind blast + shadow word death + mind blast = power burst dmg. remember to dps down the last add when curator evocates before goin on to the curator.

shaman would just chain heal. curator hits like a girl. 3k at most on teh tank. and here is from a pally POV. save your loh for the 15% enrage. that's if you have improved loh, if not dont bother. what i would do is wait for enrage throw loh and then use fel mana potion. 20k armor on your tank makes even melchazaar's hit a joke.
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QUOTE(Kalimuthu @ Apr 5 2007, 11:18 PM)
member? i was the god in ID, bliss used to be my whore ..
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QUOTE(Bogardan @ Apr 6 2007, 12:15 AM)
The gavel of pure light is pretty good with +81 enchant
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awww its penuts compare to light justice or something from prince.......

QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 6 2007, 02:18 AM)
pally should be on main tank,
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Added on April 6, 2007, 4:36 pmone more *o*

too** lazy edit.

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i knew some1 would say why not priest on mt. the reason here is that you're stacking, which means there's a high chance yuo will be eating chain lightnings from astral adds and disruptions to your heals. pally on the other hand suffer no such problems, talent + concentration aura = no disruption on holy light. besides as i mentioned, let the pally be the 1 spamming the heals to let him go oom by the enrage phase and throw in a loh for 30% extra armor.


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prist got shadow fiend !!!!
n priest do have talent in disturbing cast too..

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww


i kno pally is good, but they r not god. okay. sif.

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QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 6 2007, 06:08 PM)
i knew some1 would say why not priest on mt. the reason here is that you're stacking, which means there's a high chance yuo will be eating chain lightnings from astral adds and disruptions to your heals. pally on the other hand suffer no such problems, talent + concentration aura = no disruption on holy light. besides as i mentioned, let the pally be the 1 spamming the heals to let him go oom by the enrage phase and throw in a loh for 30% extra armor.
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pallies can also spam flash of gays and have unlimited mana, EZ mode fo sho. wtb nerf


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QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 6 2007, 06:13 PM)
prist got shadow fiend !!!!
n priest do have talent in disturbing cast too..

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
i kno pally is good, but they r not god. okay. sif.
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what are you talking about, they got angel wings, can be judge dredd, gundam, can be robocop, and can be a banana... seriously, they are better than god already imo!

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QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 6 2007, 06:13 PM)
prist got shadow fiend !!!!
n priest do have talent in disturbing cast too..

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
i kno pally is good, but they r not god. okay. sif.
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lol i'm not trying to put down priests, its just that for this fight we would definately prefer pallies on mt. the priests ability to use hots in spot heals is a great asset. 2.0 secs cast on the holy light + 6% chance to crit makes it the best single target healer hands down.

and no, flash heals are for retards in karazhan. the last pally who explained that flash heal was good enough for kara was kicked out of the raid for being a smart ass.
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QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 6 2007, 07:22 PM)
lol i'm not trying to put down priests, its just that for this fight we would definately prefer pallies on mt. the priests ability to use hots in spot heals is a great asset. 2.0 secs cast on the holy light + 6% chance to crit makes it the best single target healer hands down.

and no, flash heals are for retards in karazhan. the last pally who explained that flash heal was good enough for kara was kicked out of the raid for being a smart ass.
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it's just a consolation, free heals for no mana. but for spike dmgs to happen ever so often these days... flash heals were already ignored, even way back in naxx days. priests' flash heals can easily double the amount.

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QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 6 2007, 07:29 PM)
it's just a consolation, free heals for no mana. but for spike dmgs to happen ever so often these days... flash heals were already ignored, even way back in naxx days. priests' flash heals can easily double the amount.
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lol true, priest flash usually doubles pala's flash, but since you mentioned pre-bc, pre bc pala are actually flashing more often than holy to cover the 3rd category of heals - fast heals.

a combi of fast/mid/slow heals are used to provide steady heal streams to tanks keeping them 100% hp 100% of the time. thats one of the reasons why allis had so much advantage over horde back then.

sometimes, though not always, the ammount healed doesnt always matter. i mean, if the tank have only need 100hp heal, you go heal him for 4k, gg overhealing self mana burn?
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flash heals on pally were ignored the moment the 41 point talents were out. pally's holy light will always be more beneficial down ranked cos the amount of bonus they get from blessing of ligth is always the same. 6% additional crit bonus from the talent for holy light is enough to justify. if they need light heals, it would be covered by heal over times ever since the hots can stack.

nobody heals for 100hp...

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"awww its penuts compare to light justice or something from prince......."
wrong.. +heal spec is very dodgy. In raids, maxrank heal will almost always overheal.. so i wouldnt use lights justice over gavel's mana regen..


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QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 7 2007, 12:31 AM)
nopes
flash heals on pally were ignored the moment the 41 point talents were out. pally's holy light will always be more beneficial down ranked cos the amount of bonus they get from blessing of ligth is always the same. 6% additional crit bonus from the talent for holy light is enough to justify. if they need light heals, it would be covered by heal over times ever since the hots can stack.

nobody heals for 100hp...
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i mean, if the tank have only need 100hp heal, you go heal him for 4k, gg overhealing self mana burn?
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Erm a question. I watched nihilum's fights and Awake seems to spam flash and occasionally holy for big heals. But you're saying Holy spamming is better.

Do you have any issues with mana by spamming Holy the whole fight? What is your spell crit rating, +healing and which holy rank are u using?

I'm levelling a BE pally and planning to be a dedicated heal bot. Perhaps you can link your armory for me to look at?
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Erm a question. I watched nihilum's fights and Awake seems to spam flash and occasionally holy for big heals. But you're saying Holy spamming is better.

Do you have any issues with mana by spamming Holy the whole fight? What is your spell crit rating, +healing and which holy rank are u using?

I'm levelling a BE pally and planning to be a dedicated heal bot. Perhaps you can link your armory for me to look at?
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umm hes a warlock... lol
but hey, OBVIOUSLY that nihilum paladin is a nub, right?
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umm hes a warlock... lol
but hey, OBVIOUSLY that nihilum paladin is a nub, right?
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erm... if i'm not mistaken he changed toons with his brother so he's playing a paladin now. But if I'm wrong, sorry and move along unsure.gif.
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yeah i did noticed that too. Awake is way beyond me in terms of skills. I'll explain why when i come back later. sorry wasn't able to reply to your post since i wasn't able to come online no more in the office. all i can say for now is

holy light spam = safe way. for ppl whose skill is way beyond my level such as awake who has been playing with a pally since his DnT days, i can only watch in awe.

and yes you got that info right, we switched chars. makes me wonder who you are now =p.

and Q, if you want to hold nihilum's credibility against me, do check your guild on dps statistcs. your dpsers suck and yours is not at the optimum rate, if your an ass rogue. sometimes really, look before you leap... you are only making a fool of yourself more than ever without me even trying.

and also throw away that riftmaker man, the 10% negation doesn't stack with thunderclap if im not mistaken. its pathetic...

my rogue threw it away 2 days after he got his. the others didnt even bother...
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QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 9 2007, 07:53 PM)
yeah i did noticed that too. Awake is way beyond me in terms of skills. I'll explain why when i come back later. sorry wasn't able to reply to your post since i wasn't able to come online no more in the office. all i can say for now is

holy light spam = safe way. for ppl whose skill is way beyond my level such as awake who has been playing with a pally since his DnT days, i can only watch in awe.

and yes you got that info right, we switched chars. makes me wonder who you are now =p.

and Q, if you want to hold nihilum's credibility against me, do check your guild on dps statistcs. your dpsers suck and yours is not at the optimum rate, if your an ass rogue. sometimes really, look before you leap... you are only making a fool of yourself more than ever without me even trying.

and also throw away that riftmaker man, the 10% negation doesn't stack with thunderclap if im not mistaken. its pathetic...

my rogue threw it away 2 days after he got his. the others didnt even bother...
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uh uh ur the one whos been waving nihilum around, not me, now that it bit you back, not really my fault ur sour. and my guild's dps statistics are pathetic? cmon, do you EVEN have my guild's dps statistics? do you EVEN know what combat mutilate rogues are capable of? (assuming ur viewing my armory as sub mutilate)
until you post me recaps or dps meters of ur awesome rogues charting AT LEAST 650dps, dont even argue any further.

and which smartass would want the crappy proc from the riftmaker? do you know why i even offhand it in the first place? wait, do you know how mutilate works? your the one making urself looking like an utter retard now, not me. ill give you hints: no the proc existing or not doesnt matter, nor do the agi, or the AP stats. one would've think that the enchant on the blade would've given the obvious away, but sadly, ur too hotheaded to see shit.

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if ur rogues cant even > my dps with supposedly way better gears considering you guys down prince and all, and YOU urself claiming them having better gears. seriously, maybe they should respec.

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or maybe it's the other way around? get your mages shadow priests and warlocks to all l2play?

i've seen what a mutilate combat can do. who goes mutilate sub anyway? the dps was so slack that the rogues didnt even think that mutilate is an option for raids. well maybe i cant entirely blame you, you havent have good dpsers to compare yourself to in your guild.


Added on April 10, 2007, 1:42 pmon a more construtive post, yes i've seen the way awake plays...
he uses flash heals an awful lot during magtheridon. there are many reasons why i believe holy spam is much more useful instead.

firstly i would say that magtheridon deals for around 3-4k dmg on a good tank, prob reach a good 6k crushing etc. basically magtheridon isn't a big tank fight, but more of a raid fight, where every single member of the raid has to know what to do and do it at the right time be in the right position etc etc. you get the picture.

what awake and the other healers in the guild were doing is just topping up, the heals on magtheridon. spot heals are minimal if you cancel his aoe correctly. and if you noticed most of his big heals goes to those who controls the nodes, the dmg ticks per sec isn't anything you can scoff at. (note : this information are from what i've seen on the video, i notice that there are spike dmgs on the tank himself as well, but i assume those are lucky crushings)

why i use holy light instead is to keep the light's grace buff up on me all the time. yeah i would like to throw in some flash heals once in a while, but do you think that playing at 800 ms allows me actually switch between both heals conveniently while keeping light's grace up and actually be ready for a big spike dmg, yes probably... but 50ms would have a much better advantage in that department no?

another reason is that, i'm the main tank healer in kara runs and for maulgar and gruul, those fights are practically tank reliant. maulgar's arcing smash hits for 10k followed by other atks which leads to major dmg spikes. gruul, his hateful strike hits for 9k after a certain growth and much harder on the tank when he gets a lucky crushing, and factor in the unlucky cave ins on your melee its gona hurt bad.

i would rather over heal than take chances, of a short heal that leads to wipes in my raid (if you care so much about overhealing you shouldn't be on a pally). it's the least i could do, as i have admitted i still lack a lot in terms of skills when it comes to pally healing (just 2 weeks of trading the char with my brother, i didnt even know how to properly use blessing of freedom, lol). my crit on holy lights stands at 30%, so mana was never a problem to me. i also have divine illumination and burn it whenever the cd is up. 3 mana pots is more than sufficient if you time and burn the cooldowns early. that's without a shadow priest in my group. i just switch between ranks. as it stands now my flash heals heal for 1.5k, and my rank 4 holy light is about 2.8k only a bol target. once costs about 150 mana the other about 380. not much of a difference if you ask me.

on a side note, flash heals are insane combined with prayer book trinkets, that's prob one of the reasons why awake use lots of flash heals.

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QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 10 2007, 01:23 PM)
or maybe it's the other way around? get your mages shadow priests and warlocks to all l2play?

i've seen what a mutilate combat can do. who goes mutilate sub anyway? the dps was so slack that the rogues didnt even think that mutilate is an option for raids. well maybe i cant entirely blame you, you havent have good dpsers to compare yourself to in your guild.


Added on April 10, 2007, 1:42 pmon a more construtive post, yes i've seen the way awake plays...
he uses flash heals an awful lot during magtheridon. there are many reasons why i believe holy spam is much more useful instead.

firstly i would say that magtheridon deals for around 3-4k dmg on a good tank, prob reach a good 6k crushing etc. basically magtheridon isn't a big tank fight, but more of a raid fight, where every single member of the raid has to know what to do and do it at the right time be in the right position etc etc. you get the picture.

what awake and the other healers in the guild were doing is just topping up, the heals on magtheridon. spot heals are minimal if you cancel his aoe correctly. and if you noticed most of his big heals goes to those who controls the nodes, the dmg ticks per sec isn't anything you can scoff at. (note : this information are from what i've seen on the video, i notice that there are spike dmgs on the tank himself as well, but i assume those are lucky crushings)

why i use holy light instead is to keep the light's grace buff up on me all the time. yeah i would like to throw in some flash heals once in a while, but do you think that playing at 800 ms allows me actually switch between  both heals conveniently while keeping light's grace up and actually be ready for a big spike dmg, yes probably... but 50ms would have a much better advantage in that department no?

another reason is that, i'm the main tank healer in kara runs and for maulgar and gruul, those fights are practically tank reliant. maulgar's arcing smash hits for 10k followed by other atks which leads to major dmg spikes. gruul, his hateful strike hits for 9k after a certain growth and much harder on the tank when he gets a lucky crushing, and factor in the unlucky cave ins on your melee its gona hurt bad.

i would rather over heal than take chances, of a short heal that leads to wipes in my raid (if you care so much about overhealing you shouldn't be on a pally). it's the least i could do, as i have admitted i still lack a lot in terms of skills when it comes to pally healing (just 2 weeks of trading the char with my brother, i didnt even know how to properly use blessing of freedom, lol). my crit on holy lights stands at 30%, so mana was never a problem to me. i also have divine illumination and burn it whenever the cd is up. 3 mana pots is more than sufficient if you time and burn the cooldowns early. that's without a shadow priest in my group. i just switch between ranks. as it stands now my flash heals heal for 1.5k, and my rank 4 holy light is about 2.8k only a bol target. once costs about 150 mana the other about 380. not much of a difference if you ask me.

on a side note, flash heals are insane combined with prayer book trinkets, that's prob one of the reasons why awake use lots of flash heals.
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ive said it, if ur rogues are below mages and locks, they should l2p or reroll. cant accept the fact that rogues are still dominant in pve dps, then stick with ur crappy rogue, your call.

and theres this awesome thing call pvp, mut sub is for pvp. if pvp aint your thing, again, your problem, not mine. i have the gold to spec back and forth and i dont have problem with so. i dont blame either because you kept using crappy rogues, that in fact isnt even your rogue, to compare against me.

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yes you have 800ms lag you have a disadvantage, but the fact that you started off claiming flash of light is total rubbish while beforehand dragging guilds like nihilum in is really irony at its best.

ive never claimed that overhealing is bad and everything, i merely pointed an example that holy light takes some time to cast, and its pala's big heal, and would lead to overhealing at the same time casting slow, where an option said paladin would have is flash, which would heal faster, and provide a better constant streaming. to give a better general idea, you can probably ask restore druids regarding their big heal, it is really pathetic when it comes to raiding because it takes too long to cast and when it does, its usually being overheal as someone else already topped it, downranking or not.
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i merely pointed an example that holy light takes some time to cast, and its pala's big heal


and i say you need to research on pallies a lil more before you embarass yourself any more. pally's big heals are only 2 secs... compared to flash heals of 1.5 secs... need i say more?

thus my suggestion still stands, flash heals are not meant for raids where heals are heavy. only the rare few have actually been able to put flash heals to good use and im not one of them. and also pally flash healings were rarely used almost at a nil back in naxx days. flash heal = free healings yes, sufficient healings no.


and no your dpsers need to very much learn how to play, if a rogue beats locks, sps and mages in dps. it's a sad fact which you very much have to accept. and i'm not the only one here agreeing on that.

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Downranked HL vs FOL is based on individual preference. FOL is not totally useless. It is still the most mana efficient heal of the paladin. I switch between FOL, HL rank 11, and HL rank 9 in raids. However, I do admit that I do prefer using downranked HL in most cases because of the 6% crit talent (28% holy spell crit total +1300 healing will make rank9 crit for 5.1k+).
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QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 11 2007, 06:19 AM)
and i say you need to research on pallies a lil more before you embarass yourself any more. pally's big heals are only 2 secs... compared to flash heals of 1.5 secs... need i say more?

thus my suggestion still stands, flash heals are not meant for raids where heals are heavy. only the rare few have actually been able to put flash heals to good use and im not one of them. and also pally flash healings were rarely used almost at a nil back in naxx days. flash heal = free healings yes, sufficient healings no.
and no your dpsers need to very much learn how to play, if a rogue beats locks, sps and mages in dps. it's a sad fact which you very much have to accept. and i'm not the only one here agreeing on that.
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ur suggestions or not, the fact there is no absolution that h-light is 100% better than flash of light still stands, if you continue on with this ignorance, your the one embarrassing urself, go ahead, not my loss.

funny you even point out flash heals can be put to good use and still you continue to babble on with this nonsense, serious hypocrit right there.

and if ur still headstrong on rogues arent top dps'ers, then you'll be very disappointed with the majority of the high end guilds, like ur beloved nihilum, or maybe DNT(considering how much you like to hold their peens). perhaps, they recruited a buncha noob mages/locks/spriests, l2p for them then. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 6 2007, 07:16 PM)
pallies can also spam flash of gays and have unlimited mana, EZ mode fo sho. wtb nerf


Added on April 6, 2007, 7:17 pm

what are you talking about, they got angel wings, can be judge dredd, gundam, can be robocop, and can be a banana... seriously, they are better than god already imo!
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nub talk. so, enjoy with ur days with pally.

QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 6 2007, 07:22 PM)
lol i'm not trying to put down priests, its just that for this fight we would definately prefer pallies on mt. the priests ability to use hots in spot heals is a great asset. 2.0 secs cast on the holy light + 6% chance to crit makes it the best single target healer hands down.

and no, flash heals are for retards in karazhan. the last pally who explained that flash heal was good enough for kara was kicked out of the raid for being a smart ass.
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maybe. we cleared curator up to chest event(some idiot start again after we done n got silence n pull n wipe doh.gif)
with flask brillian oil n some mana pot. i found it no problem at all. beside a shaman got kick out from raid coz of his sissy heal. < "A" not "ALL">

im not trying to argue priest can do the job either. im just want to say, stop discriminated with pally vs priest stuff. action > speak.

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Hmmm... I have heard rumblings that some raid groups heading into Karazhan do not bring in pallies at all. Mind you, it was the Horde group that said this and not the Alliance side. Could be that Horde players are still trying to get used to playing with Pallies still.

On the Alliance side, have heard that Shammies are going either full elemental or resto, although it's mostly the latter. Enhancement Shammies are not so loved, kinda like the Ret Pallies.

It could just be personal preference since hybrid classes aren't easy to gear up or to play.
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Hmmm... I have heard rumblings that some raid groups heading into Karazhan do not bring in pallies at all. Mind you, it was the Horde group that said this and not the Alliance side. Could be that Horde players are still trying to get used to playing with Pallies still.

On the Alliance side, have heard that Shammies are going either full elemental or resto, although it's mostly the latter. Enhancement Shammies are not so loved, kinda like the Ret Pallies.

It could just be personal preference since hybrid classes aren't easy to gear up or to play.
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having a pally in kara really helps a lot! Moroes comes to mind where u can help clear 1 or 2 garrote instead of HOT-ing it thru. If it's on the pally himself it'll be even better coz he can invul out of it. But blessings do really help as a whole
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QUOTE(RaptoR @ Apr 11 2007, 11:23 AM)
having a pally in kara really helps a lot! Moroes comes to mind where u can help clear 1 or 2 garrote instead of HOT-ing it thru. If it's on the pally himself it'll be even better coz he can invul out of it. But blessings do really help as a whole
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well, i'll definitely ask him when i see him next. his guild is on a different server though so i seldom see him. they've cleared kara w/o paladins and are already doing Gruul.
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QUOTE(Bliss8099 @ Apr 11 2007, 10:47 AM)
Lol just met some of them... you were to busy to layan me also la...zzz hai~~~


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QUOTE(myremi @ Apr 11 2007, 11:03 AM)
Hmmm... I have heard rumblings that some raid groups heading into Karazhan do not bring in pallies at all. Mind you, it was the Horde group that said this and not the Alliance side. Could be that Horde players are still trying to get used to playing with Pallies still.

On the Alliance side, have heard that Shammies are going either full elemental or resto, although it's mostly the latter. Enhancement Shammies are not so loved, kinda like the Ret Pallies.

It could just be personal preference since hybrid classes aren't easy to gear up or to play.
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i dont bring pallies to my guild too. why? cant get any QQ

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yes, moroes with pally = ownage
blessings = mega sex

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i dont bring pallies to my guild too. why? cant get any QQ

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yes, moroes with pally = ownage
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QUOTE(Bliss8099 @ Apr 11 2007, 10:47 AM)
Lol just met some of them... you were to busy to layan me also la...zzz hai~~~


Added on April 11, 2007, 10:48 amAnd wth...my recruitment thread turned into a healing debate. Good job
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QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 11 2007, 01:09 PM)
consortium rep ma............ u didnt tell me u'll come also.  unsure.gif  scare me when mouming hit my chair

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