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Quazacolt
post Apr 6 2007, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 6 2007, 06:08 PM)
i knew some1 would say why not priest on mt. the reason here is that you're stacking, which means there's a high chance yuo will be eating chain lightnings from astral adds and disruptions to your heals. pally on the other hand suffer no such problems, talent + concentration aura = no disruption on holy light. besides as i mentioned, let the pally be the 1 spamming the heals to let him go oom by the enrage phase and throw in a loh for 30% extra armor.
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pallies can also spam flash of gays and have unlimited mana, EZ mode fo sho. wtb nerf


Added on April 6, 2007, 7:17 pm
QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 6 2007, 06:13 PM)
prist got shadow fiend !!!!
n priest do have talent in disturbing cast too..

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
i kno pally is good, but they r not god. okay. sif.
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what are you talking about, they got angel wings, can be judge dredd, gundam, can be robocop, and can be a banana... seriously, they are better than god already imo!

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post Apr 6 2007, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 6 2007, 07:22 PM)
lol i'm not trying to put down priests, its just that for this fight we would definately prefer pallies on mt. the priests ability to use hots in spot heals is a great asset. 2.0 secs cast on the holy light + 6% chance to crit makes it the best single target healer hands down.

and no, flash heals are for retards in karazhan. the last pally who explained that flash heal was good enough for kara was kicked out of the raid for being a smart ass.
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still doesnt deny the fact it takes no mana lol
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post Apr 6 2007, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 6 2007, 07:29 PM)
it's just a consolation, free heals for no mana. but for spike dmgs to happen ever so often these days... flash heals were already ignored, even way back in naxx days. priests' flash heals can easily double the amount.
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lol true, priest flash usually doubles pala's flash, but since you mentioned pre-bc, pre bc pala are actually flashing more often than holy to cover the 3rd category of heals - fast heals.

a combi of fast/mid/slow heals are used to provide steady heal streams to tanks keeping them 100% hp 100% of the time. thats one of the reasons why allis had so much advantage over horde back then.

sometimes, though not always, the ammount healed doesnt always matter. i mean, if the tank have only need 100hp heal, you go heal him for 4k, gg overhealing self mana burn?
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post Apr 7 2007, 03:53 AM

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QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 7 2007, 12:31 AM)
nopes
flash heals on pally were ignored the moment the 41 point talents were out. pally's holy light will always be more beneficial down ranked cos the amount of bonus they get from blessing of ligth is always the same. 6% additional crit bonus from the talent for holy light is enough to justify. if they need light heals, it would be covered by heal over times ever since the hots can stack.

nobody heals for 100hp...
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ill bold quote it:
i mean, if the tank have only need 100hp heal, you go heal him for 4k, gg overhealing self mana burn?
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post Apr 9 2007, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(heartfang @ Apr 9 2007, 12:23 AM)
Erm a question. I watched nihilum's fights and Awake seems to spam flash and occasionally holy for big heals. But you're saying Holy spamming is better.

Do you have any issues with mana by spamming Holy the whole fight? What is your spell crit rating, +healing and which holy rank are u using?

I'm levelling a BE pally and planning to be a dedicated heal bot. Perhaps you can link your armory for me to look at?
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umm hes a warlock... lol
but hey, OBVIOUSLY that nihilum paladin is a nub, right?
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post Apr 10 2007, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 9 2007, 07:53 PM)
yeah i did noticed that too. Awake is way beyond me in terms of skills. I'll explain why when i come back later. sorry wasn't able to reply to your post since i wasn't able to come online no more in the office. all i can say for now is

holy light spam = safe way. for ppl whose skill is way beyond my level such as awake who has been playing with a pally since his DnT days, i can only watch in awe.

and yes you got that info right, we switched chars. makes me wonder who you are now =p.

and Q, if you want to hold nihilum's credibility against me, do check your guild on dps statistcs. your dpsers suck and yours is not at the optimum rate, if your an ass rogue. sometimes really, look before you leap... you are only making a fool of yourself more than ever without me even trying.

and also throw away that riftmaker man, the 10% negation doesn't stack with thunderclap if im not mistaken. its pathetic...

my rogue threw it away 2 days after he got his. the others didnt even bother...
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uh uh ur the one whos been waving nihilum around, not me, now that it bit you back, not really my fault ur sour. and my guild's dps statistics are pathetic? cmon, do you EVEN have my guild's dps statistics? do you EVEN know what combat mutilate rogues are capable of? (assuming ur viewing my armory as sub mutilate)
until you post me recaps or dps meters of ur awesome rogues charting AT LEAST 650dps, dont even argue any further.

and which smartass would want the crappy proc from the riftmaker? do you know why i even offhand it in the first place? wait, do you know how mutilate works? your the one making urself looking like an utter retard now, not me. ill give you hints: no the proc existing or not doesnt matter, nor do the agi, or the AP stats. one would've think that the enchant on the blade would've given the obvious away, but sadly, ur too hotheaded to see shit.

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if ur rogues cant even > my dps with supposedly way better gears considering you guys down prince and all, and YOU urself claiming them having better gears. seriously, maybe they should respec.

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post Apr 10 2007, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 10 2007, 01:23 PM)
or maybe it's the other way around? get your mages shadow priests and warlocks to all l2play?

i've seen what a mutilate combat can do. who goes mutilate sub anyway? the dps was so slack that the rogues didnt even think that mutilate is an option for raids. well maybe i cant entirely blame you, you havent have good dpsers to compare yourself to in your guild.


Added on April 10, 2007, 1:42 pmon a more construtive post, yes i've seen the way awake plays...
he uses flash heals an awful lot during magtheridon. there are many reasons why i believe holy spam is much more useful instead.

firstly i would say that magtheridon deals for around 3-4k dmg on a good tank, prob reach a good 6k crushing etc. basically magtheridon isn't a big tank fight, but more of a raid fight, where every single member of the raid has to know what to do and do it at the right time be in the right position etc etc. you get the picture.

what awake and the other healers in the guild were doing is just topping up, the heals on magtheridon. spot heals are minimal if you cancel his aoe correctly. and if you noticed most of his big heals goes to those who controls the nodes, the dmg ticks per sec isn't anything you can scoff at. (note : this information are from what i've seen on the video, i notice that there are spike dmgs on the tank himself as well, but i assume those are lucky crushings)

why i use holy light instead is to keep the light's grace buff up on me all the time. yeah i would like to throw in some flash heals once in a while, but do you think that playing at 800 ms allows me actually switch between  both heals conveniently while keeping light's grace up and actually be ready for a big spike dmg, yes probably... but 50ms would have a much better advantage in that department no?

another reason is that, i'm the main tank healer in kara runs and for maulgar and gruul, those fights are practically tank reliant. maulgar's arcing smash hits for 10k followed by other atks which leads to major dmg spikes. gruul, his hateful strike hits for 9k after a certain growth and much harder on the tank when he gets a lucky crushing, and factor in the unlucky cave ins on your melee its gona hurt bad.

i would rather over heal than take chances, of a short heal that leads to wipes in my raid (if you care so much about overhealing you shouldn't be on a pally). it's the least i could do, as i have admitted i still lack a lot in terms of skills when it comes to pally healing (just 2 weeks of trading the char with my brother, i didnt even know how to properly use blessing of freedom, lol). my crit on holy lights stands at 30%, so mana was never a problem to me. i also have divine illumination and burn it whenever the cd is up. 3 mana pots is more than sufficient if you time and burn the cooldowns early. that's without a shadow priest in my group. i just switch between ranks. as it stands now my flash heals heal for 1.5k, and my rank 4 holy light is about 2.8k only a bol target. once costs about 150 mana the other about 380. not much of a difference if you ask me.

on a side note, flash heals are insane combined with prayer book trinkets, that's prob one of the reasons why awake use lots of flash heals.
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ive said it, if ur rogues are below mages and locks, they should l2p or reroll. cant accept the fact that rogues are still dominant in pve dps, then stick with ur crappy rogue, your call.

and theres this awesome thing call pvp, mut sub is for pvp. if pvp aint your thing, again, your problem, not mine. i have the gold to spec back and forth and i dont have problem with so. i dont blame either because you kept using crappy rogues, that in fact isnt even your rogue, to compare against me.

for constructive post:
yes you have 800ms lag you have a disadvantage, but the fact that you started off claiming flash of light is total rubbish while beforehand dragging guilds like nihilum in is really irony at its best.

ive never claimed that overhealing is bad and everything, i merely pointed an example that holy light takes some time to cast, and its pala's big heal, and would lead to overhealing at the same time casting slow, where an option said paladin would have is flash, which would heal faster, and provide a better constant streaming. to give a better general idea, you can probably ask restore druids regarding their big heal, it is really pathetic when it comes to raiding because it takes too long to cast and when it does, its usually being overheal as someone else already topped it, downranking or not.
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post Apr 11 2007, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 11 2007, 06:19 AM)
and i say you need to research on pallies a lil more before you embarass yourself any more. pally's big heals are only 2 secs... compared to flash heals of 1.5 secs... need i say more?

thus my suggestion still stands, flash heals are not meant for raids where heals are heavy. only the rare few have actually been able to put flash heals to good use and im not one of them. and also pally flash healings were rarely used almost at a nil back in naxx days. flash heal = free healings yes, sufficient healings no.
and no your dpsers need to very much learn how to play, if a rogue beats locks, sps and mages in dps. it's a sad fact which you very much have to accept. and i'm not the only one here agreeing on that.
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ur suggestions or not, the fact there is no absolution that h-light is 100% better than flash of light still stands, if you continue on with this ignorance, your the one embarrassing urself, go ahead, not my loss.

funny you even point out flash heals can be put to good use and still you continue to babble on with this nonsense, serious hypocrit right there.

and if ur still headstrong on rogues arent top dps'ers, then you'll be very disappointed with the majority of the high end guilds, like ur beloved nihilum, or maybe DNT(considering how much you like to hold their peens). perhaps, they recruited a buncha noob mages/locks/spriests, l2p for them then. rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 11 2007, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(Bliss8099 @ Apr 11 2007, 10:47 AM)
Lol just met some of them... you were to busy to layan me also la...zzz hai~~~


Added on April 11, 2007, 10:48 amAnd wth...my recruitment thread turned into a healing debate. Good job
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Added on April 11, 2007, 12:24 pm
QUOTE(myremi @ Apr 11 2007, 11:03 AM)
Hmmm... I have heard rumblings that some raid groups heading into Karazhan do not bring in pallies at all. Mind you, it was the Horde group that said this and not the Alliance side. Could be that Horde players are still trying to get used to playing with Pallies still.

On the Alliance side, have heard that Shammies are going either full elemental or resto, although it's mostly the latter. Enhancement Shammies are not so loved, kinda like the Ret Pallies.

It could just be personal preference since hybrid classes aren't easy to gear up or to play.
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i dont bring pallies to my guild too. why? cant get any QQ

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yes, moroes with pally = ownage
blessings = mega sex

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post Apr 11 2007, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 11 2007, 01:09 PM)
consortium rep ma............ u didnt tell me u'll come also.  unsure.gif  scare me when mouming hit my chair

lol... this proof they r good in hijaked  whistling.gif
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dont say hijack, free bumps, supporting their recruitment
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post Apr 12 2007, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(Bliss8099 @ Apr 11 2007, 04:29 PM)
I don't need no free bumps... being sarcastic is just plain ridiculous
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not really being sarcastic, it is free bumps afterall.

 

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