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post Jun 16 2017, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(denimblue @ Jun 16 2017, 09:50 AM)
The Genesis 2-year mining contract for ethereum does not incur any maintenace/electricity costs.

However, the bitcoin open-ended mining contract includes a deduction for maintenance/electricity cost at $0.28 per TH/s per day.

I hope that answers your question.
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Wah! You beat me to it.

I am supposed to answer this on jack2's request.

Many thanks. smile.gif

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post Jun 16 2017, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(denimblue @ Jun 16 2017, 09:50 AM)
The Genesis 2-year mining contract for ethereum does not incur any maintenace/electricity costs.

However, the bitcoin open-ended mining contract includes a deduction for maintenance/electricity cost at $0.28 per TH/s per day.

I hope that answers your question.
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so the company makes no money, takes care your rig for free ?
in the end what they earn ?
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post Jun 16 2017, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(TheReaderReads @ Jun 16 2017, 09:43 AM)
ETH market cap USD30.44B

BTC market cap USD38.95B
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Seems like ETH might overtake BTC market cap before end of the year for good
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QUOTE(thesnake @ Jun 16 2017, 09:51 AM)
this is a good idea. as for me i also stick with ETH contract, and plan to buy abit of x11 contract on Hashflare. seems like the returns is not bad wink.gif
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That's good to hear.

I also have a one-year 10MH/s ethereum mining contract with Hashflare.

I have full confidence with these two top-ranked cloud mining service providers. smile.gif

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post Jun 16 2017, 10:02 AM

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Need something like this to bring me back to earth : http://www.marketwatch.com/story/stay-away...bage-2017-06-15

Posting this just to remind everybody to be cautious. Not to discuss whether his opinion is correct or not. wink.gif

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Opinion: Stay away from bitcoin — it’s complete garbage

If you’ve ever wondered what “cryptocurrencies” such as bitcoin, litecoin and ethereum are for, ask one of their legions of techie-libertarian fans.

And it’s dollars to dogecoins (yet another one) that the conversation will go something like this:

You: So what’s the purpose of bitcoin?
ADVERTISING

Fan: The technology is absolutely amazing!

You: Yes, but what’s it for?

Fan: Really, the “blockchain” technology is a total masterpiece, way ahead of its time!
–– ADVERTISEMENT ––

You: Yes, yes, I understand that. But what is it actually for?

Fan: You don’t understand! It’s a completely decentralized money system! Totally revolutionary!

You: Honestly, does it have a purpose? Any purpose at all?

Fan: It’s the wave of the future!

And on it will go.

$100 billion market

Cryptocurrencies, or cyber currencies, which have been in a massive financial mania until their sudden sell-off this week, have two actual uses: online gambling and money laundering. Neither is the heart of a major business model. But that’s it.

And these, preposterously, are the fundamentals behind a mania that has driven these currencies up 30-fold, so that today in aggregate the market for them is a staggering $100 billion.

None of the defenders’ other arguments stack up.

Online currencies are hardly a “store of value” when they have fallen about 30% in a week.

Are they really protections against the ravages of “inflation” and “monetary debasement” imposed by wicked governments? If so, how come people who keep their money in bitcoin and ethereum and the like have experienced Weimar Republic levels of consumer price inflation just this week?

That is, after all, what it means when the price of your “currency” plunges. Bitcoins aren’t just down 30% against the dollar in the past week. They’re down 30% against the potato, the sack of rice, the gallon of gasoline and the new car.

Pure speculation

Admittedly, before this the price of these cyber currencies had skyrocketed. Those who got in at the start of the year have turned $1 into $30. But this looks more like a speculation than a currency. And what will tomorrow bring? I have a pretty good idea how many potatoes I can buy with my dollars next week. Bitcoins? Good luck with that.

You notice, incidentally, that these bitcoiners continue to measure the market price of their beloved new currencies in terms of, er, old-fashioned U.S. dollars.

Cyber currencies may make online purchasing and international money transfers marginally more efficient in theory, but hardly in practice. Would you risk moving your money from dollars into bitcoins just to save a few percent in transaction fees? You’ve seen that wiped out many times over this week just in price fluctuations.

Competition from all sides

Bitcoin, the grandaddy of them all, might at one point have claimed value as a unique entity. If it had a monopoly of the people who wanted to use a cryptocurrency so they could play online poker or finance international crime, it had some worth. Yet in the past few years, multiple competitors have erupted. There are now 25 with individual market values above $100 million, several above $1 billion. Yet all the bitcoins in the world are still “valued” at around $40 billion.

Fast-growing rival ethereum was worth bupkis at the start of the year. Today it’s valued at $31 billion, or almost 10 times as much as the company ESRT, -0.61%  that owns the Empire State Building.

Preposterous? You make the call.

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jun 16 2017, 09:53 AM)
so the company makes no money, takes care your rig for free ?
in the end what they earn ?
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In a nutshell, they take your money when you sign up to purchase mining equipment that can generate more hashpower than
the hashpower you sign up for.

The difference is their gross profit.
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post Jun 16 2017, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(denimblue @ Jun 16 2017, 10:02 AM)
In a nutshell, they take your money when you sign up to purchase mining equipment that can generate more hashpower than
the hashpower you sign up for.

The difference is their gross profit.
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And after 2 years of mining ethereum, your contract ends and Genesis gets to keep the mining equipment. Hehe!

You make money and they make more money. Win/win situation. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 16 2017, 09:08 AM)
Haha, highly unlikely.
Shucks, my BTC still under loan. Next release in 3 hours time!
Man, so many ICOs. Will check this one out later......
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This one deserves a mention too

https://crushcrypto.com/omg-ico-analysis/

More people need to know such opportunity exists.

Not all ICOs are scams and PnDs

After Status, Fun Fair, TenX, and Omise

In July there's another big one, REX, decentralized real estate listing
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post Jun 16 2017, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(WooTz @ Jun 16 2017, 10:16 AM)
This one deserves a mention too

https://crushcrypto.com/omg-ico-analysis/

More people need to know such opportunity exists.

Not all ICOs are scams and PnDs

After Status, Fun Fair, TenX, and Omise

In July there's another big one, REX, decentralized real estate listing
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just across the border..

OmiseGo Pte. Ltd.
8 Cross Street, #18-06 PWC Building Singapore (048424)

not bad
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post Jun 16 2017, 10:47 AM

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cloud mining... gggness.
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post Jun 16 2017, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(klthor @ Jun 16 2017, 10:47 AM)
cloud mining... gggness.
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define ggness rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Denyas @ Jun 16 2017, 10:52 AM)
define ggness  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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post Jun 16 2017, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(Denyas @ Jun 16 2017, 10:52 AM)
define ggness  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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He doesn't know how to spell "Genesis". laugh.gif

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post Jun 16 2017, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(raynman @ Jun 16 2017, 10:59 AM)
He doesn't know how to spell "Genesis".  laugh.gif
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how the genesis 2 years contract work after PoS ?

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QUOTE(Denyas @ Jun 16 2017, 11:03 AM)
how the genesis 2 years contract work after PoS ?
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They will re-purpose your remaining ETH contract period to mine other coins of equivalent (more or less) profitability.

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post Jun 16 2017, 11:07 AM

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So you better jump on this ETH mining bandwagon while you still can. laugh.gif
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post Jun 16 2017, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(blueblueoutofblue @ Jun 16 2017, 10:29 AM)
just across the border..

OmiseGo Pte. Ltd.
8 Cross Street, #18-06 PWC Building Singapore (048424)

not bad
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Singapore is really open to researching cryptocurrencies, tokenisation of assets, and blockchain - I've seen some journals from NUS students which are just pure brilliant, and these are papers from 2-3 years back.

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TenX too started in Singapore

Idea of TenX pitched at DBS Blockchain Hackathon, won first prize of 15,000 SGD. Invested the money in starting TenX
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post Jun 16 2017, 11:12 AM

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can buy hashrate in hashflare using debit card??
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post Jun 16 2017, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(Enigmatic @ Jun 16 2017, 11:07 AM)
Singapore is really open to researching cryptocurrencies, tokenisation of assets, and blockchain - I've seen some journals from NUS students  which are just pure brilliant, and these are papers from 2-3 years back.
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u can come out with a lot of things, but the thing is whether ppl want to adopt your coins or not.
it is political of course. let's say jack ma dump money to make into a china coin.
US can outright ban this exchange from opening on their soil.

This post has been edited by AllnGap: Jun 16 2017, 11:16 AM

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