Sudah test cut, much better, but then again any corded higher end jigsaw might have the same cut. I'm used to a very very entry level green bosch saw.

Ryobi tiada jual sini, But i'd still go makita than Ryobi (except for AirStrike). Why you no pakai M18 jig saw, suprisingly sama prince range with makita.

You praise Milwaukee, but never mentioned Ryobi?


There is a line between corded, and cordless. Power compromise, mobility, precision etc. Cordless doesn't mean weaker. Refer to ar188 post. Power in jig saws not that critical, we do not cut 135mm block of wood (max spec for the cordless makita, vs 145mm in JD470E). I focus more on blade deflection and mobility. There are always circulars and stationary saws for all that.

Did not go Brushless, because for almost RM200 price difference, and the very low usage of a jigsaw, compared to my circular saw.

Your 7A motor, looks like you read many american review/spec on power tools, that JS470E is not available here.

auw man, you din cakap earlier. For say, how much can you get a DJV180Z for? I asked Makita, they say i need to commit RM20k P/A purchase baru boleh.



When you have so many batteries, and that certain tool only used for short time, battery life never mattered. Well, in my case la.

They said 25-35% off MSRP.

18-2 is an older model, back then semua benda packed with 18-2, butnow Bosch keluar the 180, with lower 1814 charger, and 1.5AH battery. The 1.5ah battery is significantly cheaper than the 2.0ah battery with gauge.

You mahu cheap, just get the 180, no wrong there. Rather than pay for the 18-2, might as well get the 18VEC.

I have an GSR18-2 (bukan GSB yerr), all these time ingat its inferior, big, heavy, unbalanced, but then tengok the 180...and also the newer 18V-30 BL motor, tidak jadi tukar, stick with my compact (suprisingly) 18-2.

I got the GSR18-2 with the GBH 18-LI for rm950 shipped, with 1860 and 4+2AH battery. The GSB18-2 price of RM780 is seriously mind boggling.

Oh, 18-2 is PRO range (12M Warranty), the 180 is Contractor range (6M Warranty). Bosch MY devised this weird classification...in the UK can get 3Y warranty.

Makita saja laaaa

This post has been edited by ijan: Sep 11 2019, 01:35 PM

Lazada 9.9 dtg, with another 12V 2.0AH battery and the newer 12-40 charger.

See got time after assembling my drawers these weekend.

I have 2 other, one is a big ass Skill plunge router, and another Makita trim router. I've burnt one makita trim router few years back. So this will be my fourth . I dun mill wood, this is for laminate and veneer sahaja. The review on this unit is amazing, battery life hebat.

I dont do fine woodworking with exotic wood. The exotics I have cannot be worked with, hard as stone. I deal mostly Ply or block board, painting/spraying is more tedious then applying laminate. Oh, the ugly edge too. How I want an edge banding machine.

Whats your choice? From the way you talk, you deal with laminate,what router do you use?

I have always wanted to buy a gallon of 3M water based contact adhesive from amazon... I'll make that DREAM happen next month laaa

I have all love for the GKF 12V-8 Bosch cordless trimmer (can i say a router?)

1. It's light, can be rotated or angled any other way.
2. Excellent weight distribution, its base heavy (unlike normal trimmer which is top heavy due to the motor), so easier to balance even on a thin 18mm edge.
3. The DC motor has no forced torque on the user. A normal router with top heavy, spinning at 20-30K RPM has a will of its own to turn. You can feel that when you swipe it around, it tends to pull your hand around.
4. Super easy depth adjustment with micro metric,
5. Excellent big well-designed flat base.
6. Debris/dust doesn't SPRAY all around, somehow its more collective going down. Normal trimmer I must pakai eye PPE, confirm akan kena in face, or eye, but on this one, less need, but i still use anyways, it's a habit.
7. Router bit bearings don't get caught up in dust/glue. I dunno why, but on a normal trimmer, i'd have to occasionally clean glue/dust residue from the bearing.
8. It's not as noisy as a normal trimmer, I dun have to use ear plug, and I can go through even at night. Normal trimmer, cutting laminates/abs is almost as loud as circular saw cutting wood. This one a bit louder than drilling wood.
9. Battery life, single 2AH battery lasted me a whole 20ft length of cabinets carcass, I'd say >120 ft length of trimming
10. All of the above gave EXCELLENT control.

I'm so amazed, for RM560+ it is a excellent investment (much better than the more expensive Makita cordless jigsaw, which I kinda regretted). Now I don't frown when I have to trim laminates.

This post has been edited by ijan: Sep 17 2019, 08:58 AM

Control, how it handles and how it follows what you want, instead of having a slight mind of its own. Same as what you mean, how you can also plunge and route a perfect letter C....in SOFT wood Not only is the motor off-centred, its very low, and mounted horizontally, that helped a lot.

Power...i seriously don't think so. So it is still a trimmer to me, but i dun route hardwood anyways. If perlu, then my 2HP Plunge router boleh (but like..never used). Ill get back once i make my belian gondola and loft...if ever.

You've got something mixed up. A router is a trimmer is a router.

ar188 will be using his bigger router to route. Me will be using my router, to trim.

I did consider the 18V Makita, but since the shape mcm sama normal trimmer.. plus battery pasang TOP heavy ooo...but i don't do wood liek you. Nice river flow table, mana end hasil?

Itu 2HP router was my first router, too heavy, noisy, powerful, jerk like hell, thus noob at that time, simpan store for so long. So use proper equipment for proper job scope. I know Makita has a700-900 small router/trimmer, can tukar fixed, offset, and plunged base.

Like i said, a trimmer is a router is a trimmer...in the beginning, i pernah try to use the 2HP router to trim..laminate...noob at the time, no money, so buy big ass router, can trim laminate. How you use it, the smaller 700-900W makita can route quite well, like the 18V Ryobi and Makita do too, Well...

You are like me fren, same kindred spirit, cannot lawan itu taiko. How you apply edge banding? Any efficient method.

Ryobi Makita Ridgid and Bosch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKZG1kAByfU

wah, you siap screenshot and go indetail

Yes, its quite hard to SEE, I do prefer a plastic clear base, at times i have to guess my work, then tengok again. Before this, i can see if the trim insufficient, can make adjustment. Now i just guess, and redo.

However, i handle the bosch cordless any other way, most of the time, i pegang terbalik sbb the long base/motor obstructed by other parts of the piece. But for my primary problem, it is a blessing!

same same boss, i was aiming at it since last 1-2 years masa released. Baru perasan already in malaysia when i was at a Bosch show room, so tunggu Lajada 9.9 cun cun.

For specific work, its SUPERB! Your issue, pegang it terbalik laaa, haha! But need to consider the CW CCW issue.

i did see that review, but putting a 4/6AH battery would spoil the ergonomics, since my original intentions are only for laminates and banding. Maybe when i'm more into commercial, wood work boleh la kot.

1. Budget berapa bos? Stay awak from the Makita MLT100, can consider the Bosch GTS10J (drawside is the non-standard mitre guide, horrible mitre slide, and max fence width 18, but i can use it to cut 19 3/4). But mahu save, can get Stanley at half price. However, equipment quality ada effect with wood quality, and if its a hobby, dun mind splurging some moreeeeeee.

But...circular saw paling useful, unless you have big place, and a panel saw.


2. your toe kick, sebelah ada, sebelah tidak ada. and the side tidak ada, is again supported by a horizontal piece. A piece is always stronger, vertically high.
rather than placing it horizontal, make it vertical to actually give support. And the side ada, is flush with front, hows that a toe kick?

and, whats'up with your basic carcass design?

True, but only kalau Dewalt ada. The locally available DWE7470-B1 is not the same as the europe model, this is the lower end range and knowing Dewalt=Stanley, it might be, might be not the same. Better go tengok tengok.

Yes, circular saw can do it, its the most used thing I have.

Sure bohh? You mahu table saw, then china cordless...might as well get a good makita cordless and dock the table saw until then. You wont use a table saw much with panels. Unless you have panel saw, whatever goes on the table saw, mesti go through a circular saw dulu. If you deal with solid wood, table saw only for end product, usually go through mitre(or non) saw dulu.

But kalau ada, if the table saw permits, copying cuts is a breeze.

oooh, so no (2) sudah explain, but as i said, the horizontal piece not required. You want strength, make another vertical piece to support the plank in the middle, assuming its going to be placed on a solid flooring.

(3) i dun have issues with melamine chip board, but yes with cement. How thick/big? because chipboard rigidity is questionable. It by itself is heavy, but it has no rigidity and compression properties. Berat tapi useless. Plus chipboard takut air....unless the concrete top is a fixed top, and u fit the cabinet ur making under it. The cabinet is not bearing any load from the cement, can use laa.

bukan laaa, when saya mahu beli my table saw, i was aiming at another Dewalt model, higher rated than the Bosch. Its not available in Malaysia, but priced cheaper in the Amazon.

BUT now (2 years later) ada Dewalt table saw in Malaysia, and have you seen the malaysian Dewalt model yet ka? You google can only jumpa in Indon, S.America those countries saja. It looks so similar to Stanley, but dont have the fine micro-metric rail adjuster like the better Dewalt.