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 Investors Club V10, Previously known as Traders Kopitiam

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post Jan 10 2019, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(buncho89 @ Jan 10 2019, 07:55 PM)
I admire him cos he's the co founder of gamuda and ijm....so thought he must be damn rich lar somemore at his age thought he would just retire but he still likes to play with the stock market har har har
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post Jan 10 2019, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(buncho89 @ Jan 10 2019, 07:55 PM)
I admire him cos he's the co founder of gamuda and ijm....so thought he must be damn rich lar somemore at his age thought he would just retire but he still likes to play with the stock market har har har
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and lansi also..
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post Jan 11 2019, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 10 2019, 08:51 PM)
how's he doing now?
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still surviving, painful lesson but it's worth it, some ppl need to learn the hard way only can wake up
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post Jan 11 2019, 05:16 PM

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market rallying up? this week seems like recover and few more weeks should be bull
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post Jan 14 2019, 02:53 PM

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Perisai lou sai. Going to be delisted. Now down -83.33% in one day.

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post Jan 14 2019, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Jan 14 2019, 02:53 PM)
Perisai lou sai. Going to be delisted. Now down -83.33% in one day.
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But still Can appeal. Do You think worth to buy Now?
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post Jan 15 2019, 06:35 AM

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QUOTE(airtawarian @ Jan 14 2019, 08:50 PM)
But still Can appeal. Do You think worth to buy Now?
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I won’t buy it. There are so many other better stocks to buy.
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post Jan 15 2019, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Jan 15 2019, 06:35 AM)
I won’t buy it. There are so many other better stocks to buy.
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Any recommendations on " There are so many other better stocks to buy."
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post Jan 15 2019, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Jan 15 2019, 06:35 AM)
I won’t buy it. There are so many other better stocks to buy.
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Flbhd share buy back worth looking.
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post Jan 15 2019, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(helob @ Jan 15 2019, 01:29 PM)
Any recommendations on " There are so many other better stocks to buy."
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Please have a look at the stocks that I am holding except for FAJAR, HIBISCUS AND GKENT.

FAJAR appears to be a dead stock. HIBISCUS may be victim of pump and dump in the future, thanks to KYY. GKENT has already gone up +10% today.

Some of the stocks I am holding are cyclical stocks, so you may need a strong stomach for the roller coaster ride.

QUOTE(lowya @ Jan 15 2019, 02:09 PM)
Flbhd share buy back worth looking.
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No bullets already at my end. But thanks for the tips.
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post Jan 15 2019, 04:57 PM

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Property stocks that are trading at more than 50% discount to its NAV and no debt, may pose a good long term target currently, as well as privatisation target.

Btw, SPB just up its privatisation offer to Rm6.30.
5.70 -> 6.00 -> 6.30.


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post Jan 15 2019, 10:12 PM

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What's is first and final dividend mean?

It's stated it as type of dividend
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post Jan 15 2019, 10:34 PM

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What do you guys think of YTL Power? trading at 0.5 book value and dividend yield of 5%
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post Jan 16 2019, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 15 2019, 04:57 PM)
Property stocks that are trading at more than 50% discount to its NAV and no debt, may pose a good long term target currently, as well as privatisation target.

Btw, SPB just up its privatisation offer to Rm6.30.
5.70 -> 6.00 -> 6.30.
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I masuk too early...still 1.22 with gkent and 2% loss with gadang..but go for long term yes flex.gif
Just Mr.T and country C dun argue anymore...

Tech stock in US still very susceptible to drop sad.gif
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post Jan 16 2019, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(fastreader @ Jan 10 2019, 11:26 AM)
I have a question which i hope the sifu can advise:

Situation:
- I have 5600 shares of PMETAL-WC (Expiring in Aug 2019), bought for RM1.71
- Currently trading at 4.24 for PMETAL-WC, trading at 4.64 for PMETAL
- Exercise price is 0.39.

QUestion:
1) Should i choose to convert, i'll just have to pay RM0.39 X 5600 = RM2184 ? (Meaning, my cost price is only RM1.71 + RM0.39 only? )

2) Or do i need to pay RM4.24 + RM0.39 for all 5600 units?

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QUOTE(oOoproz @ Jan 10 2019, 07:01 PM)
2nd is the right calculation.. If me it's better to sell the warrant than converting it since u are making profit, and market is really uncertain now, better hold cash and wait for the right timing
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I dont think 2nd is correct .
He bought the warrant at RM1.71 long time ago and final exercise price is 0.39 , now warrant RM4.24 mean he is earning (4.24-1.71= RM2.53) and mother RM4.64 , exercise is 0.39 . Y he need pay RM4.24+RM0.39?
To exercise his warrant = his warrant shares unit x exercise price 0.39 only . Nw ur mother share cost price RM1.71+RM0.39 = RM2.09 only , if u sell u will earn RM4.64-RM2.09 = RM2.55

Any Sifu pls help verify it .
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post Jan 17 2019, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(chiafoo @ Jan 16 2019, 10:12 PM)
I dont think 2nd is correct .
He bought the warrant at RM1.71 long time ago and final exercise price is 0.39 , now warrant RM4.24 mean he is earning (4.24-1.71= RM2.53)  and mother RM4.64 , exercise is 0.39 . Y he need pay RM4.24+RM0.39?
To exercise his warrant = his warrant shares unit  x exercise price 0.39 only . Nw ur mother share cost price RM1.71+RM0.39 = RM2.09 only , if u sell u will earn RM4.64-RM2.09 = RM2.55

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You just need to pay for the warrant exercise price to convert W to mothershare.

Alternatively, can just sell the warrant in the market, and buy the mothershare, but at a price of little brokerage incurred (by then you don't need to wait for troublesome conversion process and time)
Conversion takes sometimes (week or weeks) before mothershare is issued.

As warrant is not trading at discount, there is no advantage opt for conversion.

Whether to sell and take profit, or keep for long term. Have no comment on this part as I don't follow the particular stock.
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post Jan 17 2019, 09:43 AM

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I am the only one here avoiding warrants like a plague?
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 17 2019, 09:43 AM)
I am the only one here avoiding warrants like a plague?
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I understand the basic theory of buying warrants such as out-of-the-money and in-the-money. I bought the Genting warrant once before but suffered losses.

I don't find the idea of buying warrants appealing. Win big or lose big. No dividend payment. Have to watch out for the expiry date of the warrant.

Just my 2 cents view.
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post Jan 17 2019, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 17 2019, 09:43 AM)
I am the only one here avoiding warrants like a plague?
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Im avoiding warrants too. As Vanguard2015 says, either win big or lose big.

Those free warrants, normally I sell it almost immediately after I got it.
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post Jan 17 2019, 11:56 AM

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Personally don't like warrant as most warrants are trading at high premium and relatively short expiry date especially CW

3 scenario may happen on mothershare from now to expiry date, if buy warrant and hold until expiry.

a) Up - if mothershare up more than premium paid, warrant make profit. Good profit due to gearing factor

b) Stagnant - the premium paid on the warrant burned - loss.

c) down - if worst, out of money, total capital invested in warrant burned - loss

The big disadvantage of warrant is scenario b, as most of the trading day, stock price won't up and down significantly.
So time is enemy.

If really want to speculate, futures is easier to make money, and don't need to pay any premium.

This post has been edited by cherroy: Jan 17 2019, 11:58 AM

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