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TSjfleong
post May 29 2017, 01:50 PM, updated 9y ago

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Nowadays overwhelming majority of personal/private calls are made from mobile phones and 1300 /1800 numbers get charged more on mobile? Most telcos say that bundled minutes cannot be used for 1300 and 1800, and they charge A LOT for calling those numbers
why don't they use normal number like 03 or 01X since it's cheaper for customers to call?

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post May 29 2017, 01:52 PM

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Few Toll free numbers uses your cell phone minutes when you call. The cell phone carriers don't care who or what you're calling. The second your phone starts dialing out, your minutes are ticking away. When you place a call (even to a toll free number) you're using your provider's service, tower, etc.
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post May 29 2017, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(amxpayne67 @ May 29 2017, 01:52 PM)
Few Toll free numbers uses your cell phone minutes when you call. The cell phone carriers don't care who or what you're calling. The second your phone starts dialing out, your minutes are ticking away. When you place a call (even to a toll free number) you're using your provider's service, tower, etc.
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My question is why don't they use normal number like 03 or 01X since it's cheaper for customers to call?
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QUOTE(jfleong @ May 29 2017, 01:50 PM)
Nowadays overwhelming majority of personal/private calls are made from mobile phones and 1300 /1800 numbers get charged more on mobile? Most telcos say that bundled minutes cannot be used for 1300 and 1800, and they charge A LOT for calling those numbers
why don't they use normal number like 03 or 01X since it's cheaper for customers to call?
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every time call my wallet sure bleed
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post May 29 2017, 01:54 PM

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eh i tot toll free is 1800
1300 is like local call rate? hmm.gif
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post May 29 2017, 01:55 PM

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I kena extra charge RM40 this month because of calling poslaju.
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post May 29 2017, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(Kim Bi Jan @ May 29 2017, 01:54 PM)
eh i tot toll free is 1800
1300 is like local call rate? hmm.gif
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1300 is considered special number
My current plan includes bundled minutes, but cannot be used for 1300 and 1800, charge 30 sen per minute

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post May 29 2017, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(NotYourKuda @ May 29 2017, 01:55 PM)
I kena extra charge RM40 this month because of calling poslaju.
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Always try to look for local numbers, for example they say if calling overseas, call 03XXXXXXX , you can actually use that number even from Malaysia, and they charge as ordinary call
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post May 29 2017, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(jfleong @ May 29 2017, 01:53 PM)
My question is why don't they use normal number like 03 or 01X since it's cheaper for customers to call?
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1. Improve customer satisfaction
2. Easy to remember
3. Credibility
4. Portability
5. Marketing Tool

unker is lazy to explain the detail. go search yourself
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post May 29 2017, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(amxpayne67 @ May 29 2017, 01:58 PM)
1. Improve customer satisfaction
2. Easy to remember
3. Credibility
4. Portability
5. Marketing Tool

unker is lazy to explain the detail. go search yourself
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How does using 1300 instead of 03 improve those? Cannot understand
Intried Google but there aren't any answers because this is Malaysia specific, other countries call toll free from mobile is free
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post May 29 2017, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(jfleong @ May 29 2017, 01:56 PM)
1300 is considered special number
My current plan includes bundled minutes, but cannot be used for 1300 and 1800, charge 30 sen per minute
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i actually try to say 1300 is not toll free

toll free is 1800


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post May 29 2017, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(Kim Bi Jan @ May 29 2017, 02:00 PM)
i actually try to say 1300 is not toll free

toll free is 1800
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But from mobile phone both are special numbers charged at a higher rate
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post May 29 2017, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(jfleong @ May 29 2017, 02:01 PM)
But from mobile phone both are special numbers charged at a higher rate
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i see
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post May 29 2017, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(Kim Bi Jan @ May 29 2017, 01:54 PM)
eh i tot toll free is 1800
1300 is like local call rate? hmm.gif
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You are right. Toll free and local call charge if you call using TM line. Using cellphone? Forget it. That is why I still have regular phone ... but how many time I call these number? hmm.gif
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post May 29 2017, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(jfleong @ May 29 2017, 01:59 PM)
How does using 1300 instead of 03 improve those? Cannot understand
Intried Google but there aren't any answers because this is Malaysia specific, other countries call toll free from mobile is free
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The number is easy to remember, marketing can use it to their advantage easily, the number can be used no matter where the office location is, the number is the same for all the service available to the customers.

Also, no other countries specifically didnt charge toll free number, except for landline. That is very much dependent on their telco policies
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post May 29 2017, 02:09 PM

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These toll free and local rate numbers are to make customers happy not to burdened by call charge. Imagine you call and the machine play music and listen to ads. Ask you to press this and that number and waiting for a person to pick up the phone.

For call through cellphone, better use normal number but many companies do not even provide the number to call doh.gif
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post May 29 2017, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(amxpayne67 @ May 29 2017, 02:03 PM)
The number is easy to remember, marketing can use it to their advantage easily, the number can be used no matter where the office location is, the number is the same for all the service available to the customers.

Also, no other countries specifically didnt charge toll free number, except for landline. That is very much dependent on their telco policies
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You can always make 03 numbers easy to remember too, like using company name or string of consecutive numbers like 1234 or same numbers
For out of state you can still call by adding the appropriate prefix like 04 , 05 etc
03 numbers is also same, just that if you're calling from KL you can omit the 03

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post May 29 2017, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ May 29 2017, 02:02 PM)
You are right. Toll free and local call charge if you call using TM line. Using cellphone? Forget it. That is why I still have regular phone ... but how many time I call these number?  hmm.gif
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how much are those special charge actually? nowadays most ppl dont bother to konect house phones
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post May 29 2017, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ May 29 2017, 02:09 PM)
These toll free and local rate numbers are to make customers happy not to burdened by call charge. Imagine you call and the machine play music and listen to ads. Ask you to press this and that number and waiting for a person to pick up the phone.

For call through cellphone, better use normal number but many companies do not even provide the number to call  doh.gif
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THIS. I don't have a landline and cannot use office to call, boss will scold
Most companies have them if you search online, but some like GRAB doesn't have them (or do they? Send me the number)
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QUOTE(jfleong @ May 29 2017, 02:09 PM)
You can always make 03 numbers easy to remember too, like using company name or string of consecutive numbers like 1234 or same numbers
For out of state you can still call by adding the appropriate prefix like 04 , 05 etc
03 numbers is also same, just that if you're calling from KL you can omit the 03
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the number can be used no matter where the office location is. Can the 03,04,05 or whatever those localized number be used after you relocate your office to another state?
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post May 29 2017, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(Kim Bi Jan @ May 29 2017, 02:10 PM)
how much are those special charge actually? nowadays most ppl dont bother to konect house phones
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Depends on telcos. Mine normal numbers have bundle, I never finish them so I never get charged for normal calls
Special calls to 1300 and 1800 depends on telcos, mine 30 sen per minute
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post May 29 2017, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(amxpayne67 @ May 29 2017, 02:11 PM)
the number can be used no matter where the office location is. Can the 03,04,05 or whatever those localized number be used after you relocate your office to another state?
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Companies large enough to have 1300 numbers won't relocate that often. I think they are ways to connect your calls even after you relocate
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post May 29 2017, 02:14 PM

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in the days long before handphones were popular n when the land line was king, the toll free n 1300 numbers were likely marketing tools to get customers call companies in the service sector eg. retail or food or hospitality or insurance, etc. to get further information on their products without having to pay for the call or at the cost of a local call even when calling from outstation.

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post May 29 2017, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(duketan @ May 29 2017, 02:14 PM)
in the days long before handphones were popular n when the land line was king, the toll free n 1300 numbers were likely marketing tools to get customers call  companies in the service sector eg. retail or food or hospitality or insurance, etc. to get further information on their products without having to pay for the call or at the cost of a local call even when calling from outstation.

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How long ago was those days?
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post May 29 2017, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(jfleong @ May 29 2017, 02:12 PM)
Depends on telcos. Mine normal numbers have bundle, I never finish them so I never get charged for normal calls
Special calls to 1300 and 1800 depends on telcos, mine 30 sen per minute
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that's fooking expensive considering is use land line is free or local call rate..
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QUOTE(jfleong @ May 29 2017, 02:13 PM)
Companies large enough to have 1300 numbers won't relocate that often. I think they are ways to connect your calls even after you relocate
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Yes there is, but that will just add more hassle to bridge the connection. 1 number to all is the easiest way to go.
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post May 29 2017, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(Kim Bi Jan @ May 29 2017, 02:10 PM)
how much are those special charge actually? nowadays most ppl dont bother to konect house phones
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Each local call is charged at 8 sen for the first 2 minutes or part thereof and 4 sen for each subsequent minute or part thereof. Example: Local call being made for 3.5 minutes - total charges : 8 + 4 + 4 = 16 sen.

I use Unifi and add RM20 extra for unlimited call throughout TM network. It also comes with 600min worth free call (I think this include international call as well)

Using cellphone, the rate depends on the company or organization you call. There is no fixed rate I believe.
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QUOTE(Zot @ May 29 2017, 02:25 PM)
Copy Paste from TM

Each local call is charged at 8 sen for the first 2 minutes or part thereof and 4 sen for each subsequent minute or part thereof. Example: Local call being made for 3.5 minutes - total charges : 8 + 4 + 4 = 16 sen.

I use Unifi and add RM20 extra for unlimited call throughout TM network. It also comes with 600min worth free call (I think this include international call as well)

Using cellphone, the rate depends on the company or organization you call. There is no fixed rate I believe.
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ahh..thats pretty detail

tank kiu sir!
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post May 29 2017, 02:32 PM

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same reason why u have URLs instead of IP addresses...

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post May 29 2017, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(Kim Bi Jan @ May 29 2017, 02:30 PM)
ahh..thats pretty detail

tank kiu sir!
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Not sure if this 1 300 charge still valid but this is how it was in 2013 laugh.gif See the difference in charge. The problem is they never said how much it will cost you

http://ww1.utusan.com.my/utusan/Laporan_Kh...ugikan-pengguna
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post May 29 2017, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ May 29 2017, 02:36 PM)
Not sure if this 1 300 charge still valid but this is how it was in 2013  laugh.gif  See the difference in charge. The problem is they never said how much it will cost you

http://ww1.utusan.com.my/utusan/Laporan_Kh...ugikan-pengguna
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ahh..i guess its ikut suka hati then?

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