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post May 17 2017, 09:55 AM, updated 9y ago

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A little history about me, who I consider myself as one of those called - the tech geek. I ventured into this never ending smartphone game a couple of years back, where my first phone was the Blackberry Storm 2 (it was the first pressure sensitive screen in its own ways yo). And just to name a few phones I have possessed in recent history, just to sorta prove my credentials here - Iphone 5, Iphone 6s, LG Nexus 5, LG G6, LG V10, Samsung S6 Edge, Samsung S7 Edge, Samsung S8+, Huawei Nexus 6P, Google Pixel, HTC Cha Cha, HTC M7, HTC M8, HTC M9, Blackberry Bold, Blackberry Z10, Blackkberry Passport, Nokia N9, Nokia Lumia 800, Nokia Lumia 1020, Lenovo Z2 Pro, Sony Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia Z Ultra, Xperia Z1 Xperia Z3, Xperia Z5 Premium, Xiaomi Mi3, Xiaomi Mi4, Xiaomi Note, Xiaomi Note 2, Xiaomi Mi Mix, Motorola Droid Turbo, Moto X, Motorola Droid Maxx and of course a couple that I have missed out. An not just that, the accessories that I have invested in my phones are monstrous. Back then when tempered glass wasn't even a thing I have spent at least thousands trying out different brands around the world, your Mimo Spigen Imos bla bla bla. I even resorted to nano liquid screen protectors, only to hope to find the perfect smartphone. Anyway, the story here is about the two giants - The Iphone 7+ and the Samsung Galaxy S8+.

With no argument, the S8+ beats the Iphone in all ways aesthetics, and tahts the reason it only took me a heartbeat to pre order this beauty. I'm not gonna talk specs and functions, reviewers around the world will favour the S8+ and no one will disagree, I won't. The S8+ is stunning. So why did I fall back to my, which I would love to call it, the trustworthy Iphone 7+?

18.5 to 9 Screen Ratio

From my experience with phones, first hands on experience that leads to how big the smartphone is, is the width of the phone. Sure Samsung would have done thousands of surveys and focus groups to come to the same conclusion. Small phone, big screen, small width. Tara. So what's the problem here? If samsung, or LG, has decided to maintain the 16 to 9 screen ratio with the width of the S8 there isn't enough marketing noise. It's gonna be another 5.2" smartphone with better body ratio. So, let's increase the height! Now we get infinity display, 84% screen to body ratio, 5.7" screen in a compact body unheard of! Kudos to Samsung it bloody works, paired with 2k super AMOLED screen up to 1000 nits in brightness is amazing feat, claps.

But the thing is, aesthetics over functionality. That is when I first tried the S8, only to realize despite its marketed 5.7" screen, the narrow width makes everything seems....Iphone 5 ish?? Most especially felt during typing. So I quickly got the bigger brother, the plus. Felt much better instantly. many will argue that the transition is here, is real, accept it. 4:3 to 16:9 now 18:9, fine, I'll use it for a month to get myself used to it!

I did not, sadly. Seriously the only experience I'm gonna miss leaving this screen ratio is my e-book reading experience. That's all. Videos are just not produced in that format yet, yeah crop to fit and lose the tops and bottoms, not cool. Most of the games are rendered in 16:9, yeah force the immersion only to find many games have misaligned issues, especially in the game menus. I'm not here to argue that you have to give time for devs and video makers to start adapting the new ratio. Yes it takes time but the problem is, are they, the masses out there, are they gonna adapt? Unless I see all manufacturers start jumping into the ratio, which I don't, we might see mass adoption. On a separate case, if apple decides to trail on this, we might see that happen. And I'm taking an intellectual guess here, this ratio isn't here to stay.

The almighty bezeless display

The first name most would call upon, as a leader to this revolution, the Mi MIX, or the less known Sharp Aquos. NO! Surprise surprise, it's actually SONY. Don't believe me? Check this lil brother to the original Xperia Z, the Sony Xperia ZL. Was not heavily marketed beside his bigger brother, and guess the smartphone market back then wasn't aware of small bezels.

My argument is, are these actually practical? First of all, they are bloody fragile. with the panels so close to the frame, they are destined to crack upon impact. History proves it, and still is.

Hand gymnastics. Although the Mi Mix, or the S8+, is extremely gorgeous, I find myself having a hard time to navigate around the screen. I have very little room to grip at the bottom when I type. I have a hard time reaching for the pull down notification from the top, clear notifications, interact with notifications. I have a hard time playing games with little grip on the side (you hold your phone, but your thumbs are shrunk into an awkward position to interact with the controls - Fifa, Mobile Legend etc.).

The Operating System

It's official, the S8 packs the best of the best specs on earth. 10nm processor architecture, Bluetooth 5.1, UFS 2.1 bla bla bla. For a tech person, or a tech audience like LYN members, it means a bloody lot. It means that we feel appreciated when we know manufacturers dish out the best of the best. But to others it means crap. And to the ah lian and ah bengs they only care about screen size and mega pixels.

So you and your sweet S8+ is still probably in a romantic honey moon period, where you glance at here even when there is no notifications, or when the screen is off, to my knowledge some forumers even lick them, yes the S8 fetish. Well mine was a short vacation, honeymoon period all over after the first week. What matters to me next is the user experience. And heads up, the Apple ecosystem beats it flat flat flat.

It's not Samsung's, or Android's fault here, at least on their own. They both offer the best techs, software and hardware the world could ask for. But it's the marriage that's at fault here. I love the customization and the open ecosystem on Android. I used to customize every single detail I could possibly tweak, I own hundreds of widget packs, I browse deviantart and mycolorscreen for inspirations. I love the fact I could download torrent on my phone. I love the pirated APKs. I love the rooting and the kernel level tweaks. I love IFTTT. I love comparing SOT after knowing some guys out in XDA tweaks the CPU and GPU better than stock baked ones. I love trying out different roms. I love all that. I do also love - CONSISTENCY.

If anyone here is willing to debate that Android is more reliable, more consistent, and smoother than IOS, I'm sure you have not used one yet. Take the fanboy out of you and start dealing it like a real man. The integration in the Apple ecosystem is just better. The apps on the Appstore is just plain fluid. The apps are just more polished on IOS, even Google's own offering. I play games on Iphones with close to no frame drops. I don't care if devs optimize them better, I don't care if Samsung needs to power double the pixels, I only want a fluid experience, that's all that matters. And sadly, I experience micro stutters all around the S8+, heck it even loses out to the OP3T and the pixel. So can we conclude that Touchwiz is still culprit here?

Of course there are the minor considerations of future updates, continuity, the hardware flaws (fingerprint misplacement), single bottom firing speakers etc. These I can compensate for I know no smartphone is perfect.

And for those reasons above, I'm back to an Iphone 7+.


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QUOTE(pekak07 @ May 17 2017, 09:55 AM)
It's not Samsung's, or Android's fault here, at least on their own. They both offer the best techs, software and hardware the world could ask for. But it's the marriage that's at fault here. I love the customization and the open ecosystem on Android. I used to customize every single detail I could possibly tweak, I own hundreds of widget packs, I browse deviantart and mycolorscreen for inspirations. I love the fact I could download torrent on my phone. I love the pirated APKs. I love the rooting and the kernel level tweaks. I love IFTTT. I love comparing SOT after knowing some guys out in XDA tweaks the CPU and GPU better than stock baked ones. I love trying out different roms. I love all that. I do also love - CONSISTENCY.

If anyone here is willing to debate that Android is more reliable, more consistent, and smoother than IOS, I'm sure you have not used one yet. Take the fanboy out of you and start dealing it like a real man. The integration in the Apple ecosystem is just better. The apps on the Appstore is just plain fluid. The apps are just more polished on IOS, even Google's own offering. I play games on Iphones with close to no frame drops. I don't care if devs optimize them better, I don't care if Samsung needs to power double the pixels, I only want a fluid experience, that's all that matters. And sadly, I experience micro stutters all around the S8+, heck it even loses out to the OP3T and the pixel. So can we conclude that Touchwiz is still culprit here?

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mod apk. one of the reason why I am still using the droid, and yes, wireless transfer using AirDroid, plus Parallel Space app where I can install 2 similar apps in one hp.

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After a long thought and consideration, unker decided to upgrade to s8...even though with the same budget unker can get ipong 7...it's just my personal preference
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 17 2017, 10:00 AM)
practicality, one of the reason why I favor droid over ios

mod apk. one of the reason why I am still using the droid, and yes, wireless transfer using AirDroid, plus Parallel Space app where I can install 2 similar apps in one hp.
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iOS can download duo app from TutuApp
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 17 2017, 10:00 AM)
practicality, one of the reason why I favor droid over ios

mod apk. one of the reason why I am still using the droid, and yes, wireless transfer using AirDroid, plus Parallel Space app where I can install 2 similar apps in one hp.
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Can download from TutuApp for iOS
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Ts confirm kaya sial own so many hp

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post May 17 2017, 10:06 AM

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my ipad mini2 been having lagging issue lately. that is despite i have never updated the iOS since day 1. and no other games too, just 1 candy crush. care to explain why it lags?
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want consistency but go root and using s8 with so many complicated tasks lel
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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ May 17 2017, 10:06 AM)
my ipad mini2 been having lagging issue lately. that is despite i have never updated the iOS since day 1. and no other games too, just 1 candy crush.  care to explain why it lags?
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Reset the iPad je.
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tech geek-> hand phone.... what a joke man.
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i used my S4 like 4 years because i was a poorfag, also it's because a present from my wife. earlier this year my boss rewarded me with iP7+. fucking much diff wei, though ive always preferred Android over iOS. but what to do..boss sudah bagi. huhu
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QUOTE(q135 @ May 17 2017, 10:04 AM)
iOS can download duo app from TutuApp
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ok la . ur point is u use many phones before. ok.
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Ip7 to S8 here. Kek. Its up to u what fon to use. But reality is ios smoother than android.
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QUOTE(Progineer @ May 17 2017, 10:09 AM)
Try tansfer files, movie or songs to your ifail first then only talk..

No headphone jack too
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QUOTE(petang makan maggi @ May 17 2017, 10:10 AM)
Tech guys use clouds, those you mentioned are ancient relics.
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Oooo I have to wait. My unifi is down and I cannot see the cloud. OK, I just wait laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Progineer @ May 17 2017, 10:09 AM)
Try tansfer files, movie or songs to your ifail first then only talk..

No headphone jack too
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time to come out of the cave man, theres spotify
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QUOTE(Progineer @ May 17 2017, 10:09 AM)
Try tansfer files, movie or songs to your ifail first then only talk..

No headphone jack too
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this one cry.gif

when u wanna do manual backup , sometimes cable does not recognized by lappie/pc,etc
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Lol... typical ifags and american mentality... always think they are above everyone on earth... confirm TS doest own S8 at all...
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QUOTE(sikentut @ May 17 2017, 10:15 AM)
time to come out of the cave man, theres spotify
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wow. didn't know can transfer files using spotify
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QUOTE(petang makan maggi @ May 17 2017, 10:10 AM)
Tech guys use clouds, those you mentioned are ancient relics.
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1 pic 5mb. 1000 pics need to do backup.

yes iCloud or whatever cloud is very reliable

indeed.
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QUOTE(petang makan maggi @ May 17 2017, 10:10 AM)
Tech guys use clouds, those you mentioned are ancient relics.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 17 2017, 10:17 AM)
wow. didn't know can transfer files using spotify
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why do you still download music when theres spotify?also,you can airdrop files to other ios/mac os devices
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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ May 17 2017, 10:06 AM)
my ipad mini2 been having lagging issue lately. that is despite i have never updated the iOS since day 1. and no other games too, just 1 candy crush.  care to explain why it lags?
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latest app optimized for latest ios. sooner or later u wont be able to use the device because no longer been supported by the ios

that's what happened to my old ipad 1
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QUOTE(sikentut @ May 17 2017, 10:18 AM)
why do you still download music when theres spotify?also,you can airdrop files to other ios/mac os devices
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FILES lah wei. PDF epub zip doc etc .

files not necessarily for music mp3 aac only

AirDroid can be used on ios as well as other OS as well

like I said. practicality

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ May 17 2017, 09:58 AM)
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QUOTE(SugarBB @ May 17 2017, 10:19 AM)
Usually technical guys like software or coding people will use iphone, iphone anytime better than stupid android. Samsung always offer stupid high performance spec on paper but in real they could not performed as good as iphone. ios is brilliant compare to stupid android os.
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yes Google is very stupid.

indeed.

ios is brilliantttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ May 17 2017, 10:06 AM)
my ipad mini2 been having lagging issue lately. that is despite i have never updated the iOS since day 1. and no other games too, just 1 candy crush.  care to explain why it lags?
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Everybody definition of lag is different. Some ppl, a small lag , also u call lag. Some ppl freaking bad lag like those old samsungs and asus then only call lag.

How bad is your lag? Post video la. Btw , ur mini 2 is pretty old. So some minor lag is not surprising.
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Thing about the S8 is that the screens aren't literally as big as you'd expect it to be.
Since screens are measured diagonally, and in the case of the S8 it is stretched to an 18:9 ratio.

What this means is that you don't have more screen estate to work on, you have more screen to reach because it's so long.
If I'm Samsung I'll accurately state the surface area of the screen instead of the outdated diagonally measured screen size. It makes a false impression.
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so many butthurt android users in this thread. Tech geek must only use android phone issit? what do you call Linus then? snob
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S8 is a good phone. But the problem is the price. At that price , its totally not worth it.

And besides the screen, i cant find a single Unique selling point that will make me want to change to S8. Its just too normal and feels like a slightly upgraded s7 edge


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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ May 17 2017, 10:06 AM)
my ipad mini2 been having lagging issue lately. that is despite i have never updated the iOS since day 1. and no other games too, just 1 candy crush.  care to explain why it lags?
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my ipad mini 1 since 2013 until today ok je.
updated last with iOS 9.0.

use it mainly for work, youtube and to browse /k.
no games, i hate mobile games.



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QUOTE(manypplwan @ May 17 2017, 10:23 AM)
so many butthurt android users in this thread. Tech geek must only use android phone issit? what do you call Linus then? snob
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>Android is the best! iOS SUCKKKK
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QUOTE(fabianz03 @ May 17 2017, 10:23 AM)
Thing about the S8 is that the screens aren't literally as big as you'd expect it to be.
Since screens are measured diagonally, and in the case of the S8 it is stretched to an 18:9 ratio.

What this means is that you don't have more screen estate to work on, you have more screen to reach because it's so long.
If I'm Samsung I'll accurately state the surface area of the screen instead of the outdated diagonally measured screen size. It makes a false impression.
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That's why you are not Samsung or part of their marketing team.

It's mmg their main purpose to create a false impression. They didn't mislead because it's still a fact, just that it create a form of an impression that the screen is big. whistling.gif

Is marketing...
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Been using IOS for 5 years, love the speed, fluidity, stablity and better app quality.

Changed to android because fucuking too many constrains in IOS. Transfer one file also susah. IOS can't even transfer using cable without itunes installed. I can live with a laggier phone.
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So you guys literally read what TS wrote? What TS wrote?

S8+ is a piece of garbage that have poor quality and can't last more than 1.5 years? Yea... come to iPhone, mmg tahan lazak and can update to latest iOS version in future lagi. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(SugarBB @ May 17 2017, 10:19 AM)
Usually technical guys like software or coding people will use iphone, iphone anytime better than stupid android. Samsung always offer stupid high performance spec on paper but in real they could not performed as good as iphone. ios is brilliant compare to stupid android os.
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Sorry, i do prefer using nokia S60.. battery 1 week.. nokia 6120 classic rock till now ..
Iphone only for lazy user and i have been mention many times the annoyance movin from android to iphone..
Yes iphone got better graphic and spec compare to android..
But to said android stupid don't They both linux core also.. not diff.

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LG, Samsung pioneer 18:9 screen = Omg, so stupid, no one support that ratio, video, game all look ugly.

iphone 8 (or 8S or 9) adapt 18:9 screen = Wow, so innovation, much pretty.


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QUOTE(pekak07 @ May 17 2017, 08:55 AM)
A little history about me, who I consider myself as one of those called - the tech geek. I ventured into this never ending smartphone game a couple of years back, where my first phone was the Blackberry Storm 2 (it was the first pressure sensitive screen in its own ways yo). And just to name a few phones I have possessed in recent history, just to sorta prove my credentials here - Iphone 5, Iphone 6s, LG Nexus 5, LG G6, LG V10, Samsung S6 Edge, Samsung S7 Edge, Samsung S8+, Huawei Nexus 6P, Google Pixel, HTC Cha Cha, HTC M7, HTC M8, HTC M9, Blackberry Bold, Blackberry Z10, Blackkberry Passport, Nokia N9, Nokia Lumia 800, Nokia Lumia 1020, Lenovo Z2 Pro, Sony Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia Z Ultra, Xperia Z1 Xperia Z3, Xperia Z5 Premium, Xiaomi Mi3, Xiaomi Mi4, Xiaomi Note, Xiaomi Note 2, Xiaomi Mi Mix, Motorola Droid Turbo, Moto X, Motorola Droid Maxx and of course a couple that I have missed out. An not just that, the accessories that I have invested in my phones are monstrous. Back then when tempered glass wasn't even a thing I have spent at least thousands trying out different brands around the world, your Mimo Spigen Imos bla bla bla. I even resorted to nano liquid screen protectors, only to hope to find the perfect smartphone.  Anyway, the story here is about the two giants - The Iphone 7+ and the Samsung Galaxy S8+.

With no argument, the S8+ beats the Iphone in all ways aesthetics, and tahts the reason it only took me a heartbeat to pre order this beauty. I'm not gonna talk specs and functions, reviewers around the world will favour the S8+ and no one will disagree, I won't. The S8+ is stunning. So why did I fall back to my, which I would love to call it, the trustworthy Iphone 7+?

18.5 to 9 Screen Ratio

From my experience with phones, first hands on experience that leads to how big the smartphone is, is the width of the phone. Sure Samsung would have done thousands of surveys and focus groups to come to the same conclusion. Small phone, big screen, small width. Tara. So what's the problem here? If samsung, or LG, has decided to maintain the 16 to 9 screen ratio with the width of the S8 there isn't enough marketing noise. It's gonna be another 5.2" smartphone with better body ratio. So, let's increase the height! Now we get infinity display, 84% screen to body ratio, 5.7" screen in a compact body unheard of! Kudos to Samsung it bloody works, paired with 2k super AMOLED screen up to 1000 nits in brightness is amazing feat, claps.

But the thing is, aesthetics over functionality. That is when I first tried the S8, only to realize despite its marketed 5.7" screen, the narrow width makes everything seems....Iphone 5 ish?? Most especially felt during typing. So I quickly got the bigger brother, the plus. Felt much better instantly. many will argue that the transition is here, is real, accept it. 4:3 to 16:9 now 18:9, fine, I'll use it for a month to get myself used to it!

I did not, sadly. Seriously the only experience I'm gonna miss leaving this screen ratio is my e-book reading experience. That's all. Videos are just not produced in that format yet, yeah crop to fit and lose the tops and bottoms, not cool. Most of the games are rendered in 16:9, yeah force the immersion only to find many games have misaligned issues, especially in the game menus. I'm not here to argue that you have to give time for devs and video makers to start adapting the new ratio. Yes it takes time but the problem is, are they, the masses out there, are they gonna adapt? Unless I see all manufacturers start jumping into the ratio, which I don't, we might see mass adoption. On a separate case, if apple decides to trail on this, we might see that happen. And I'm taking an intellectual guess here, this ratio isn't here to stay.

The almighty bezeless display

The first name most would call upon, as a leader to this revolution, the Mi MIX, or the less known Sharp Aquos. NO! Surprise surprise, it's actually SONY. Don't believe me? Check this lil  brother to the original Xperia Z, the Sony Xperia ZL. Was not heavily marketed beside his bigger brother, and guess the smartphone market back then wasn't aware of small bezels.

My argument is, are these actually practical? First of all, they are bloody fragile. with the panels so close to the frame, they are destined to crack upon impact. History proves it, and still is.

Hand gymnastics. Although the Mi Mix, or the S8+, is extremely gorgeous, I find myself having a hard time to navigate around the screen. I have very little room to grip at the bottom when I type. I have a hard time reaching for the pull down notification from the top, clear notifications, interact with notifications. I have a hard time playing games with little grip on the side (you hold your phone, but your thumbs are shrunk into an awkward position to interact with the controls - Fifa, Mobile Legend etc.).

The Operating System

It's official, the S8 packs the best of the best specs on earth. 10nm processor architecture, Bluetooth 5.1, UFS 2.1 bla bla bla. For a tech person, or a tech audience like LYN members, it means a bloody lot. It means that we feel appreciated when we know manufacturers dish out the best of the best. But to others it means crap. And to the ah lian and ah bengs they only care about screen size and mega pixels.

So you and your sweet S8+ is still probably in a romantic honey moon period, where you glance at here even when there is no notifications, or when the screen is off, to my knowledge some forumers even lick them, yes the S8 fetish. Well mine was a short vacation, honeymoon period all over after the first week. What matters to me next is the user experience. And heads up, the Apple ecosystem beats it flat flat flat.

It's not Samsung's, or Android's fault here, at least on their own. They both offer the best techs, software and hardware the world could ask for. But it's the marriage that's at fault here. I love the customization and the open ecosystem on Android. I used to customize every single detail I could possibly tweak, I own hundreds of widget packs, I browse deviantart and mycolorscreen for inspirations. I love the fact I could download torrent on my phone. I love the pirated APKs. I love the rooting and the kernel level tweaks. I love IFTTT. I love comparing SOT after knowing some guys out in XDA tweaks the CPU and GPU better than stock baked ones. I love trying out different roms. I love all that. I do also love - CONSISTENCY.

If anyone here is willing to debate that Android is more reliable, more consistent, and smoother than IOS, I'm sure you have not used one yet. Take the fanboy out of you and start dealing it like a real man. The integration in the Apple ecosystem is just better. The apps on the Appstore is just plain fluid. The apps are just more polished on IOS, even Google's own offering. I play games on Iphones with close to no frame drops. I don't care if devs optimize them better, I don't care if Samsung needs to power double the pixels, I only want a fluid experience, that's all that matters. And sadly, I experience micro stutters all around the S8+, heck it even loses out to the OP3T and the pixel. So can we conclude that Touchwiz is still culprit here?

Of course there are the minor considerations of future updates, continuity, the  hardware flaws (fingerprint misplacement), single bottom firing speakers etc. These I can compensate for I know no smartphone is perfect.

And for those reasons above, I'm back to an Iphone 7+.
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talk about android,

i will go with 3 options

1st) google!, nexus and now pixel (pure android is best)

2nd) OnePlus, a big team of people who uses the pure android and customize and tweak

3rd) name a manufacture who do the less bloatware. (sorry, samsung is not this category)
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QUOTE(SugarBB @ May 17 2017, 10:19 AM)
Usually technical guys like software or coding people will use iphone, iphone anytime better than stupid android. Samsung always offer stupid high performance spec on paper but in real they could not performed as good as iphone. ios is brilliant compare to stupid android os.
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and i say ios susah buat kerja sial
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how about battery performance

as far as i know ip charging and batt life sux
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QUOTE(crayzee @ May 17 2017, 10:27 AM)
Been using IOS for 5 years, love the speed, fluidity, stablity and better app quality.

Changed to android because fucuking too many constrains in IOS. Transfer one file also susah. IOS can't even transfer using cable without itunes installed. I can live with a laggier phone.
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i do love iOS... cz its fluidity too... but, still i just dont understand why android cant be as fluid as iOS despite equip wif latest tech... is it due to lots of different kind of android build... asus, lg, and so on.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Bujal.x @ May 17 2017, 10:02 AM)
Sumpah tak tanya
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Hi I agreed with the thread starter, main point is what suit the user, i have both iOS and Android 7 and i prefer iOS anytime.
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I dont see ios as more superior to android. Their only advantage is their os are created specifically for a 1 model. But when the new os applies to older models, the lag will be there. So ifags have no choice but to buy new models if they wish to continue to feel the 'lag free' enviroment. Android on the other hand, 1 os but need to be modified to suit hundreds of phone models.

On app development is also the same. App dev for ios can just tweak their app to suit 1 or 2 models only, while android app dev have to tweak their app to suit thousands of models. Problem will arise.

To say tech geeks prefer iphone is pretty stupid. To me tech geeks likes to tinker with the tech infront of them. Ios being a closed enviroment os doesnt allow much of this. Unlike android ( although currently i see android is slowly following ios ).
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ May 17 2017, 11:37 AM)
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i do love iOS... cz its fluidity too... but, still i just dont understand why android cant be as fluid as iOS despite equip wif latest tech... is it due to lots of different kind of android build... asus, lg, and so on..  hmm.gif
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My point too
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android vanilla is the way to go

use a pixel or any nexus phones and you'll understand

IOS - for user (rakyat mahrain) 1 designs fits all

android - for more technical inclined users customization open for all



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QUOTE(kevin23 @ May 17 2017, 10:22 AM)
Everybody definition of lag is different. Some ppl, a small lag , also u call lag. Some ppl freaking bad lag like those old samsungs and asus then only call lag.

How bad is your lag? Post video la. Btw , ur mini 2 is pretty old. So some minor lag is not surprising.
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Very noticeable lag that didnt happen when new. Enter an app takes 3 seconds longer for example, and when switching screens from one to another there would be 1-2 seconds of delay where it never existed last year.

But my ipad is basically unchanged much from new too. Not much apps installed. So i dont think there is anything that would consume ram until it lags. Only used for safari, youtube, fb and occasional candy crush. Basically thats it. ios oso never update since it came out of box because we all know new ios would bog down older i devices. Ios7 still, i think.

The lag still occurred even after restarting. Deswai i garu kepala, despite how ppl praise the fluidity and smoothness of ios and i devices but if it still lags after 1-2 years of use, then it is nothing to shout about being better than android anyway.
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before comment or reply, u guys better stick into your brain

samsung not equal to android
many phone manufacture uses google's android os add in their stuff blend it and sell the phone. the phone lag then complain that particular phone model not the android itself. phone manufactures uses all different hardware for this android os, while ios solely target to specific version of iPhone.

App store. Google play store with the ios app store manage different. Google allow u throw shit to play store without verify unless someone flag that app, so it all up to the app developer to manage well their own app to various of hardware performance, screen resolution etc... while ios app, when u release to the store there are a team of ppl who will verify your app, once passed your app only appear in the app store (controlled)


SO.

those who like to make many noise yet fail to learn - save money and get yourself iPhone, it truly save your time

those who know what you are doing, get a pure android or etc, rock you years in terms of software stability, concern is hardware only.
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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ May 17 2017, 10:03 AM)
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QUOTE(jurkflash @ May 17 2017, 10:47 AM)
before comment or reply, u guys better stick into your brain

samsung not equal to android
many phone manufacture uses google's android os add in their stuff blend it and sell the phone. the phone lag then complain that particular phone model not the android itself. phone manufactures uses all different hardware for this android os, while ios solely target to specific version of iPhone.

App store. Google play store with the ios app store manage different. Google allow u throw shit to play store without verify unless someone flag that app, so it all up to the app developer to manage well their own app to various of hardware performance, screen resolution etc... while ios app, when u release to the store there are a team of ppl who will verify your app, once passed your app only appear in the app store (controlled)
SO.

those who like to make many noise yet fail to learn - save money and get yourself iPhone, it truly save your time

those who know what you are doing, get a pure android or etc, rock you years in terms of software stability, concern is hardware only.
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I just want to know... are you typing the whole wall of text on mobile?

I don't really care if you prefer S8 or iPhone. It's your freedom.
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DroidFag always insult apple user and say they are tech idiot, this thread can saw many lol
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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ May 17 2017, 10:47 AM)
Very noticeable lag that didnt happen when new. Enter an app takes 3 seconds longer for example, and when switching screens from one to another there would be 1-2 seconds of delay where it never existed last year.

But my ipad is basically unchanged much from new too. Not much apps installed. So i dont think there is anything that would consume ram until it lags. Only used for safari, youtube, fb and occasional candy crush. Basically thats it. ios oso never update since it came out of box because we all know new ios would bog down older i devices. Ios7 still, i think.

The lag still occurred even after restarting.  Deswai i garu kepala, despite how ppl praise the fluidity and smoothness of ios and i devices but if it still lags after 1-2 years of use, then it is nothing to shout about being better than android anyway.
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You should change, my ipad mini 2 is a lag fest, the suey thing is that after i updated to ios9 the ipad become bad, then ios10 with the press home to unlock become even shittier (due to no touch ID). Suggest u to change to ipad mini 4 with more ram.
Ipad mini 2 with 1gb ram cant do much, my safari reloads only with 2 tabs.
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Android = for techies / nerds

iOS = for lazy bums / unwilling to learn something new.
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TS getting old. It is normal for older people to choose practical over aesthetic.
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QUOTE(SugarBB @ May 17 2017, 10:31 AM)
FYI stupid samsung droid has better spec but yet still lose to iphone when do comparison. why? because stupid Samsung + android
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You rant just user experience rant not technical standard comparison.

And SAMSUNG not related to ANDROID.. they just build phone.. not the operating system. Be committer and rant better asking user experience.

Iphone much focus on optimization while java more focus on what can be used as max. That's a different world.

To me android is more user friendly then IOS.

I can rant houndred thing about IOS..

What the most annoying of IOS

1. It's freakin annoying to update when file over 100 MB
2. It's freakin annoying to update 5GB xcode if new 10.XX version come out .. It's not even list the update apple store.. Need to search and install manually..
Talk about User Experience for developer. It's freakin annoying..The worst.



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QUOTE(alien3d @ May 17 2017, 11:07 AM)
You rant just user experience rant not technical standard comparison.

And SAMSUNG not related to ANDROID.. they just build  phone.. not the operating system. Be committer and rant  better asking user experience.

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If this should be it, samsung should all be shipped with vanilla android.
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If buyer is purely looking at functionality and practicality, only, they won't buy S8 anyway.
S8 is for show off 1st, function 2nd, practical 3rd.
True story.
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QUOTE(pekak07 @ May 17 2017, 11:12 AM)
If this should be it, samsung should all be shipped with vanilla android.
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QUOTE(lil_flank @ May 17 2017, 10:01 AM)
Tech geek using ipong, keke..
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I am a tech geek myself..have been using smartphone before they were even cool. This was in the windows mobile days.
Of course I'll still like android and am amazed with its capabilities but for a day to day phone....just to call, surf the internet and to take great photos, I prefer the iphone. Apple has always made the simple things better while android and windows has always focused on the complicated things. For them it is functionality over user experience.
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ur set is snapdragon or exynos?
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many self proclaim tech nerd or geek

but complain itune susah guna


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LOL since when a real tech geek call himself as tech geek

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iOS = for lazy bums / unwilling to learn something new.
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This is the most topkek statement.. you better get out of your cave more la bro.. don't just sit inside​ the cave and play with your Android OS.. topkek la you.. real nerds used many OS. Only idiots think nerds use Android..
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Same. I went from iPhone 7 to S7 Edge only to come back to iPhone 7. niamah in droid phone insta story u took the quality is bad one as compared to iOS. puik.
Android drive also much succkier as compared with Apple CarPlay bangwall.gif

MooTikPin before u tag me and laugh at me for switching to the S7 Edge i tag myself la har... hahahahaha

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QUOTE(revious @ May 17 2017, 11:29 AM)
This is the most topkek statement.. you better get out of your cave more la bro.. don't just sit inside​ the cave and play with your Android OS.. topkek la you.. real nerds used many OS. Only idiots think nerds use Android..
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I use iOS because of it consistency, my ip5 age is almost 7 years and still going strong
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QUOTE(NotYourKuda @ May 17 2017, 11:32 AM)
I use iOS because of it consistency, my ip5 age is almost 7 years and still going strong
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my iphone 6 lag like shit after going latest ios.

6s keep crash while gaming doh.gif
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dont lie bro.

my iphone 6 lag like shit after going latest ios.

6s keep crash while gaming  doh.gif
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QUOTE(SugarBB @ May 17 2017, 11:20 AM)
means you are not enough technical yet.. should use android and become non technical person..
good one, want to follow you.. haha
iOS = nice
technical user? more plain uncles or BO TAK CHEK ppl use android phones.
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but look at the bigger pic bro

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ May 17 2017, 11:35 AM)
dont lie bro.

my iphone 6 lag like shit after going latest ios.

6s keep crash while gaming  doh.gif
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QUOTE(Lancewood @ May 17 2017, 11:36 AM)
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QUOTE(NotYourKuda @ May 17 2017, 11:39 AM)
my ip5 no lag liao. Mine is a singapore set. Play heavy game oso still acceptable. I just dont upgrade to latest iOS immediately. I'll wait for a month or two to upgrade.
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i using both bro.  laugh.gif
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Save you headache, ditch the iOS la. Suffer so much why make it so hard on yourself leh.
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ May 17 2017, 11:35 AM)
dont lie bro.

my iphone 6 lag like shit after going latest ios.

6s keep crash while gaming  doh.gif
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Did you format your phone after new update?? If not, you should. And it won't lag after reformatting.
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QUOTE(mousqy @ May 17 2017, 11:41 AM)
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QUOTE(Lancewood @ May 17 2017, 11:42 AM)
Save you headache, ditch the iOS la. Suffer so much why make it so hard on yourself leh.
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I agree too.. No matter how good is the HARDWARE... ultimately the SOFTWARE that will deciding factor for your experience ...

APPLE is software company that can fix the bugs and adjust it to cater to their hardware..

SAMSUNG dunno programming.. hahahha.. have to depend on android to fix..
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aku malas baca, boleh someone tolong lukis apa sebenarnya masalah dia?
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ May 17 2017, 11:35 AM)
dont lie bro.

my iphone 6 lag like shit after going latest ios.

6s keep crash while gaming doh.gif
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only idiots game on mobile phones, that made their device lifespan shorter.

you wanna game, play on PC/laptop or consoles.




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QUOTE(Zaryl @ May 17 2017, 11:48 AM)
only idiots game on mobile phones, that made their device lifespan shorter.

you wanna game, play on PC/laptop or consoles.
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I see nothing wrong gaming with mobile phones, apart from shorter lifespan, i can afford to change anytime.

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smoothness defeat functionality???

thats like choosing abacus over multi purpose computer that stuttered
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QUOTE(sandiego @ May 17 2017, 11:19 AM)
geeks who use apple products. Especially programmers.

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QUOTE(NotYourKuda @ May 17 2017, 11:32 AM)
I use iOS because of it consistency, my ip5 age is almost 7 years and still going strong
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QUOTE(pekak07 @ May 17 2017, 11:33 AM)
Now that you have said it, yeah leh Iphone 5 almost 7 years liao lol.
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both of you part of apple dev? iirc ip5 was launched on september 2012

4 years plus to be accurate.

and I already sold it long time ago for 6


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TS post is funny... he say he use so much phone bla bla bla.. then suddenly say consistency. Everybody know apple software is more consistent through out different version... its hardware and software is built by the same company....
Consistency is not an evaluation subject here
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QUOTE(mousqy @ May 17 2017, 11:39 AM)
yeah thats pasal cost

but look at the bigger pic bro

but to each his own

some like to drive vios some honda city
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ May 17 2017, 11:44 AM)
because can show off people using iPhone, rich man phone.  rclxm9.gif
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low self esteem kids will do that

real rich fellas will... oh well... got no time to show off . busy with life

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Yada yada isheep punya reasoning macam budak 2 tahun punya alasan tak nak pergi nursery. Such bullshit.

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 17 2017, 12:15 PM)
low self esteem kids will do that

real rich fellas will... oh well... got no time to show off . busy with life
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Went back and forth from ios and android serveral time. One thing i miss the most when switching to IOS is the back button. It's really frustrating to me and i just dont think the whole pressing home button to switch between apps that practical. Maybe its just me
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ May 17 2017, 11:48 AM)
only idiots game on mobile phones, that made their device lifespan shorter.

you wanna game, play on PC/laptop or consoles.
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for real?

CoC? real racing 3?

even whatsapp consumed battery like no tomorrow

using that logic, better stick to nokia 3310. as long can make calls, sms, enough lah.
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ May 17 2017, 12:18 PM)
rich fella busy showing off at insta lettew
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those ultra rich fellas hardly flaunting their assets
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QUOTE(notadupe @ May 17 2017, 12:19 PM)
Went back and forth from ios and android serveral time. One thing i miss the most when switching to IOS is the back button. It's really frustrating to me and i just dont think the whole pressing home button to switch between apps that practical. Maybe its just me
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Dont worey latest IOS got
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U not geek, just gadget boy ..... Geek will explore more n look for fredom ...
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well written,

as i said countless of times, its still android. Smartphone has become somewhat boring. Unlike during the nseries and walkman eras

Knowing apple, I would say they may chose to steer away from this "hype" of bezeless display unless they can do it better. Even Jobs would said that they wont innovate it unless they can do it better.

guess what, the next iphone will not even featured borderless display, it may feature something entirely different, something we all use in everyday lives. brows.gif
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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ May 17 2017, 12:07 PM)
why use macosx,when you have better unix at disposal,bsd and linux???
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Not for their work...as personal laptops. For watching movie, editing photos, browsing internet. Apple is almost useless for any work that doesn't involve photo or video editing.
I use my office laptop for work (office and home) but for personal use (uni, editorial work, photo/video editing, browsing and media), I use my Macbook Pro.
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QUOTE(notadupe @ May 17 2017, 12:19 PM)
Went back and forth from ios and android serveral time. One thing i miss the most when switching to IOS is the back button. It's really frustrating to me and i just dont think the whole pressing home button to switch between apps that practical. Maybe its just me
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haha

actually theres no need for back button, just swipe right from left side of screen to go back in any applications.

simple ! Instead of having 3 buttons below you only have one.
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Actually I agree with ts... when Apple finally catches up with the time and implements wireless charging + expandable storage.. I'll go back to the iphone in a heartbeat.
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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ May 17 2017, 10:40 AM)
I dont see ios as more superior to android. Their only advantage is their os are created specifically for a 1 model. But when the new os applies to older models, the lag will be there. So ifags have no choice but to buy new models if they wish to continue to feel the 'lag free' enviroment. Android on the other hand, 1 os but need to be modified to suit hundreds of phone models.

On app development is also the same. App dev for ios can just tweak their app to suit 1 or 2 models only, while android app dev have to tweak their app to suit thousands of models. Problem will arise.

To say tech geeks prefer iphone is pretty stupid. To me tech geeks likes to tinker with the tech infront of them. Ios being a closed enviroment os doesnt allow much of this. Unlike android ( although currently i see android is slowly following ios ).
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 17 2017, 12:12 PM)
both of you part of apple dev? iirc ip5 was launched on september 2012

4 years plus to be accurate.

and I already sold it long time ago for 6
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QUOTE(revious @ May 17 2017, 11:29 AM)
This is the most topkek statement.. you better get out of your cave more la bro.. don't just sit inside​ the cave and play with your Android OS.. topkek la you.. real nerds used many OS. Only idiots think nerds use Android..
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I've many Android devices and even iOS devices at home. Been using iOS since 2007. Heck, even WP also have.

My Android devices all pure variety not some raped OEM variety.
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I have told many ktards at here but they are so stubborn TS.

Die dies say Android is better.

It is a FACT IOS is 100 times better than this so called progressive android.


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QUOTE(sandiego @ May 17 2017, 12:30 PM)
Not for their work...as personal laptops. For watching movie, editing photos, browsing internet. Apple is almost useless for any work that doesn't involve photo or video editing.
I use my office laptop for work (office and home) but for personal use (uni, editorial work, photo/video editing, browsing and media), I use my Macbook Pro.
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Lol..I used macOS for work, Window on VM just for the engineering CAD software that I regularly use laugh.gif

Window is one piece of shit.
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QUOTE(manypplwan @ May 17 2017, 10:23 AM)
so many butthurt android users in this thread. Tech geek must only use android phone issit? what do you call Linus then? snob
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They don't want to admit IOS is superior compared to Android.

Americans, Singaporean as example, they all obsessed with Iphone.

Most of the Sinkis are using Iphone.
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QUOTE(quadcube @ May 17 2017, 03:54 PM)
Lol..I used macOS for work, Window on VM just for the engineering CAD software that I regularly use laugh.gif

Window is one piece of shit.
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Huhu it's now 2017 and pipul still bash ipong!
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Talk about iphone's consistency, does that mean they did not have any improvement? Where's the innovation one talk about? Ohh look, the headphone jack is gone. Alright that's an innovation.
Btw, not a samfag. Just open minded user.
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QUOTE(acbc @ May 17 2017, 03:48 PM)
I've many Android devices and even iOS devices at home. Been using iOS since 2007. Heck, even WP also have.

My Android devices all pure variety not some raped OEM variety.
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I have iOS device and Android phone too.. 🙄😏
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QUOTE(Zot @ May 17 2017, 10:12 AM)
Oooo I have to wait. My unifi is down and I cannot see the cloud. OK, I just wait  laugh.gif
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Ts never go to outskirts kl before like east coast some places to load 100mb file also takes half an hour with the half baked Telco.

Ts also noob dunno that cloud only useful for unlimited data those limited data can go bankrupt just transfer between cloud or syncing hahaha
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QUOTE(torreto @ May 17 2017, 11:31 AM)
Same. I went from iPhone 7 to S7 Edge only to come back to iPhone 7. niamah in droid phone insta story u took the quality is bad one as compared to iOS. puik.
Android drive also much succkier as compared with Apple CarPlay  bangwall.gif

MooTikPin before u tag me and laugh at me for switching to the S7 Edge i tag myself la har... hahahahaha
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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ May 17 2017, 10:06 AM)
my ipad mini2 been having lagging issue lately. that is despite i have never updated the iOS since day 1. and no other games too, just 1 candy crush.  care to explain why it lags?
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theres 1 thing called reset.
pernah dengar? ke baru first time guna phone? kek
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QUOTE(SMB002 @ May 17 2017, 04:06 PM)
Talk about iphone's consistency, does that mean they did not have any improvement? Where's the innovation one talk about? Ohh look, the headphone jack is gone. Alright that's an innovation.
Btw, not a samfag. Just open minded user.
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QUOTE(notadupe @ May 17 2017, 12:19 PM)
Went back and forth from ios and android serveral time. One thing i miss the most when switching to IOS is the back button. It's really frustrating to me and i just dont think the whole pressing home button to switch between apps that practical. Maybe its just me
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2k17, still searching for back button? console.gif
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QUOTE(SugarBB @ May 17 2017, 10:31 AM)
FYI stupid samsung droid has better spec but yet still lose to iphone when do comparison. why? because stupid samsung + android
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Apple keep you in jail. Isn't you falling into that jail consider stupid?

You pay so much to be control by apple.


On my s8+ I got edge screen, curve edge, secret folder protect by Knox, Samsung pay to pay with my phone, install any apps I want without need to buy, transfer my entire music or movie into my memory card, carry 2 SIM in a phone without bringing 2 phones, gesture controls, automated features, widgets and aod. The flexibility and features are endless now HTC U can squeeze while what you get with an iPhone be in jail. That why its call jailbreak hahahahahahahaa. Bodohnya

Ok so will I trade to be in an expensive jail of your position than to be free. Nah freedom is better.


If you heard many artist nude photos all are stolen from iPhone talk about secure hahahahaha.
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QUOTE(hollyweed @ May 17 2017, 04:25 PM)
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Kek, not everyone use apple earbud.
Right now only AAW offer lightning output for their iem.
For wireless wise, only Sony MDR-1000X has good sound quality and functionality.
Still, for 2000 there's a lot of option with better sound quality. Ignoring the fact that you're forced to use wireless that is.
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QUOTE(SMB002 @ May 17 2017, 04:29 PM)
Kek, not everyone use apple earbud.
Right now only AAW offer lightning output for their iem.
For wireless wise, only Sony MDR-1000X has good sound quality and functionality.
Still, for 2000 there's a lot of option with better sound quality. Ignoring the fact that you're forced to use wireless that is.
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2k17, people tend to use wireless things (everything if can).

and you saying im forced to use wireless?
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QUOTE(Velocity @ May 17 2017, 04:29 PM)
Apple keep you in jail. Isn't you falling into that jail consider stupid?

You pay so much to be control by apple.
On my s8+ I got edge screen, curve edge,  secret folder protect  by Knox, Samsung pay to pay with my phone, install any apps I want without need to buy, transfer my entire music or movie into my memory card, carry 2 SIM in a phone without bringing 2 phones, gesture controls, automated features, widgets  and aod. The flexibility and features are endless now HTC U can squeeze while what you get with an iPhone be in jail. That why its call jailbreak hahahahahahahaa. Bodohnya

Ok so will I trade to be in an expensive jail of your position than to be free. Nah freedom is better.
If you heard many artist nude photos all are stolen from iPhone talk about secure hahahahaha.
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Want to listen music,

Apple music and Spotify

Movie,hello, better watch at cinema. u have so much free time is it to download movies?
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QUOTE(SMB002 @ May 17 2017, 04:29 PM)
Kek, not everyone use apple earbud.
Right now only AAW offer lightning output for their iem.
For wireless wise, only Sony MDR-1000X has good sound quality and functionality.
Still, for 2000 there's a lot of option with better sound quality. Ignoring the fact that you're forced to use wireless that is.
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Everything is wireless.

2017 still use those wire earphone? Eww
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QUOTE(hollyweed @ May 17 2017, 04:31 PM)
2k17, people tend to use wireless things (everything if can).

and you saying im forced to use wireless?
ok mat wayar  icon_idea.gif
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I meant people who looks for sound quality wouldn't choose wireless earphone.
But again, it is tiring to argue with ifag.
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Lol u tying to say android bad in a forum where many worship android??


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QUOTE(xpole @ May 17 2017, 04:33 PM)
Everything is wireless.

2017 still use those wire earphone? Eww
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Yeah right, tell that to Shure, Stax, Sony, Beyerdynamic, Sennheiser.
Like S8, just because it looks good, feels good doesn't mean it is practical. Especially for people looking for specific functionality.
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QUOTE(xpole @ May 17 2017, 04:32 PM)
Want to listen music,

Apple music and Spotify

Movie,hello, better watch at cinema. u have so much free time is it to download movies?
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I fully agree with this.

The screen is the main draw of the phone, but it's prone to damage given it's proximity to the edges. If the main selling point is to be taken with such a high risk of damage, I don't see it as compelling.
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QUOTE(SMB002 @ May 17 2017, 04:33 PM)
I meant people who looks for sound quality wouldn't choose wireless earphone.
But again, it is tiring to argue with ifag.
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I play this game
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not high graphic, but when on guild war mode or when too many players around S8 have serious framerate issues while iphone smooth like nothing serious happen. So... spec means nothing, stability come first.

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QUOTE(Ido @ May 17 2017, 11:04 AM)
TS getting old. It is normal for older people to choose practical over aesthetic.
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This.


Ts should keep this in mind. Just get a cheap iphone 5 and call it a day
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QUOTE(toughguy @ May 17 2017, 11:16 AM)
If buyer is purely looking at functionality and practicality, only, they won't buy S8 anyway.
S8 is for show off 1st, function 2nd, practical 3rd.
True story.
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3299 3699 phone not about functionality ok?

Rm500 phone can.
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QUOTE(sandiego @ May 17 2017, 11:19 AM)
You'll be surprised with the amount of geeks who use apple products. Especially programmers.
I am a tech geek myself..have been using smartphone before they were even cool. This was in the windows mobile days.
Of course I'll still like android and am amazed with its capabilities but for a day to day phone....just to call, surf the internet and to take great photos, I prefer the iphone. Apple has always made the simple things better while android and windows has always focused on the complicated things. For them it is functionality over user experience.
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Programmer is not tech geek.

Its just means they found a job in IT.

A cleaner in NASA doesnt mean he is smartest of all cleaner.
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QUOTE(xpole @ May 17 2017, 04:33 PM)
Everything is wireless.

2017 still use those wire earphone? Eww
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Yea 2017 iPhone screen still flat

2017 still no widget
2017 still can't send Bluetooth
2017 still no wireless charging
2017 still not rated ip68
2017 still no iris scanner
2017 still no curve edge screen
2017 bezel thicker than your forehead
2017 still can't use 2 SIM cards
2017 still no micro sd slot
2017 still no fast charging only tortoise charging
2017 iPhone price dropping continuously while other brand price going up
2017 still need plug to itunes
2017 alot more ifags switch to android
2017 still cannot customize home screen beside add folders
2017 still no live wallpaper
2017 still no AOD( Google it if u dunno)
2017 still no wireless payment in Malaysia
2017 screen still so small
2017 to use your older premium earphone 100 to 5k you need to buy a converter or got dumbass tell u that its wireless and throw your old earphones
2017 still need to jailbreak
2017 can't transfer doc to other phone instantly

Don't seems like a very good 2017 for an iphone. Seems like going backwards



Wow the iPhone u worship really.lack of alot of things in 2017 beside smooth

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QUOTE(NotYourKuda @ May 17 2017, 11:39 AM)
my ip5 no lag liao. Mine is a singapore set. Play heavy game oso still acceptable. I just dont upgrade to latest iOS immediately. I'll wait for a month or two to upgrade.
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No budget is it.

Ip5 sucks so i got my wife ip6s when it was out. Waiting for ip8 for my wife.

This is how you roll as ifag.

Not cover malu saying the phone good after 7 years.
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QUOTE(SugarBB @ May 17 2017, 04:41 PM)
You must be some idiot just got out from underground tunnel. iphone can do much more than your stupid samsung droid.
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Your reply so short know u kantoi already go run back to your iPhone and cry. Hahahaha ifag that how short your iPhone can do
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QUOTE(Velocity @ May 17 2017, 04:47 PM)
Yea 2017 iPhone screen still flat

2017 still no widget 
2017 still  can't send Bluetooth
2017 still no wireless charging
2017 still not rated ip68
2017 still no iris scanner
2017 still no curve edge screen
2017 bezel thicker than your forehead
2017 still can't use 2 SIM cards
2017 still no micro sd slot
2017 still no fast charging only tortoise charging
2017 iPhone price dropping continuously while other brand price going up
2017 still need plug to itunes
2017 alot more ifags switch to android
2017 still cannot customize home screen beside add folders
2017 still no live wallpaper
2017 still no AOD( Google it if u dunno)
2017 still no wireless payment in Malaysia
2017 screen still so small
2017 to use your older premium earphone 100 to 5k you need to buy a converter or got dumbass tell u that its wireless and throw your old earphones
2017 still need to jailbreak
2017 can't transfer doc to other phone instantly

Don't seems like a very good 2017 for an iphone. Seems like going backwards
Wow the iPhone u worship really.lack of alot of things in 2017 beside smooth
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2017 alot more ifags jump to Android.

Nice joke bro.

We'll see when Iphone 8 release later. smile.gif


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QUOTE(hollyweed @ May 17 2017, 04:24 PM)
theres 1 thing called reset.
pernah dengar? ke baru first time guna phone? kek
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ipad mini2 dah berapa tahun in the market bhai? first 3 month dia sampai kat msia aku dah pegang dalam tangan.
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Reading and replying with my s8+
While listening with my earphones and charging my phone.


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QUOTE(Velocity @ May 17 2017, 04:29 PM)
Apple keep you in jail. Isn't you falling into that jail consider stupid?

You pay so much to be control by apple.
On my s8+ I got edge screen, curve edge,  secret folder protect  by Knox, Samsung pay to pay with my phone, install any apps I want without need to buy, transfer my entire music or movie into my memory card, carry 2 SIM in a phone without bringing 2 phones, gesture controls, automated features, widgets  and aod. The flexibility and features are endless now HTC U can squeeze while what you get with an iPhone be in jail. That why its call jailbreak hahahahahahahaa. Bodohnya

Ok so will I trade to be in an expensive jail of your position than to be free. Nah freedom is better.
If you heard many artist nude photos all are stolen from iPhone talk about secure hahahahaha.
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QUOTE(SMB002 @ May 17 2017, 03:35 PM)
Yeah right, tell that to Shure, Stax, Sony, Beyerdynamic, Sennheiser.
Like S8, just because it looks good, feels good doesn't mean it is practical. Especially for people looking for specific functionality.
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bro..i think u must innovate yourself..i stopped using headphone jack b4 apple remove it...others will SURELY follow...as for better sound quality...u dont use ur smartphone to listen to HD Audio..it has additional equipments for it..hell even if u use mp3 or spotify premium..u cant differentiate the quality wired or wireless..sigh
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QUOTE(Velocity @ May 17 2017, 04:47 PM)
Yea 2017 iPhone screen still flat

2017 still no widget 
2017 still  can't send Bluetooth
2017 still no wireless charging
2017 still not rated ip68
2017 still no iris scanner
2017 still no curve edge screen
2017 bezel thicker than your forehead
2017 still can't use 2 SIM cards
2017 still no micro sd slot
2017 still no fast charging only tortoise charging
2017 iPhone price dropping continuously while other brand price going up
2017 still need plug to itunes
2017 alot more ifags switch to android
2017 still cannot customize home screen beside add folders
2017 still no live wallpaper
2017 still no AOD( Google it if u dunno)
2017 still no wireless payment in Malaysia
2017 screen still so small
2017 to use your older premium earphone 100 to 5k you need to buy a converter or got dumbass tell u that its wireless and throw your old earphones
2017 still need to jailbreak
2017 can't transfer doc to other phone instantly

Don't seems like a very good 2017 for an iphone. Seems like going backwards
Wow the iPhone u worship really.lack of alot of things in 2017 beside smooth
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talk so much...iphone sales > any other android phone
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QUOTE(NotYourKuda @ May 17 2017, 03:44 PM)
Got mine as a SPM present from my parent. They purchase it in Sg. Don't know where. 2012, 13,14, 15, 16, 17.  Well, almost. lol. Just sold mine for 6 plus. Crack pun ada orang beli. Put at mudah, 1 hour later sold already.
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your name is idz__?

delete your ad after u it sold lah biggrin.gif

later ppl will spam your hp with unwanted ads
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QUOTE(firecracker @ May 17 2017, 05:46 PM)
bro..i think u must innovate yourself..i stopped using headphone jack b4 apple remove it...others will SURELY follow...as for better sound quality...u dont use ur smartphone to listen to HD Audio..it has additional equipments for it..hell even if u use mp3 or spotify premium..u cant differentiate the quality wired or wireless..sigh
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Too late for me, I didn't use my phone to listen to music anymore. Or stream them.
One time I forget to bring my dap and resort to phone, the sound is so frustrating I never use it anymore.
Point is, even though I didn't use it. Some other people would. Especially when iphone considered to have one of the best dac on phone.
Heck, my previous phone has defective headphone jack that I didn't realize until 6 month later when I tried to watch a youtube video in public. biggrin.gif
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But iphone no lag. Faster like 0.001 seconds to open instagram.
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2GB RAM up sure no lag for iOS. Anything 1GB or below will lag like crazy.
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QUOTE(xpole @ May 17 2017, 04:58 PM)
2017 alot more ifags jump to Android.

Nice joke bro.

We'll see when Iphone 8 release later. smile.gif
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ May 17 2017, 05:50 PM)
talk so much...iphone sales > any other android phone
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I prefer windows phone as a "PHONE", apps and customization for android. IOS....nothing much other than launch apps fast. And yes.. i do own and used 3 of these OS and currently using i7+ plus for Pokemon GO because of launching game FAST and that's it.

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QUOTE(firecracker @ May 17 2017, 05:46 PM)
bro..i think u must innovate yourself..i stopped using headphone jack b4 apple remove it...others will SURELY follow...as for better sound quality...u dont use ur smartphone to listen to HD Audio..it has additional equipments for it..hell even if u use mp3 or spotify premium..u cant differentiate the quality wired or wireless..sigh
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QUOTE(Velocity @ May 17 2017, 04:47 PM)
Yea 2017 iPhone screen still flat

2017 still no widget 
2017 still  can't send Bluetooth
2017 still no wireless charging
2017 still not rated ip68
2017 still no iris scanner
2017 still no curve edge screen
2017 bezel thicker than your forehead
2017 still can't use 2 SIM cards
2017 still no micro sd slot
2017 still no fast charging only tortoise charging
2017 iPhone price dropping continuously while other brand price going up
2017 still need plug to itunes
2017 alot more ifags switch to android
2017 still cannot customize home screen beside add folders
2017 still no live wallpaper
2017 still no AOD( Google it if u dunno)
2017 still no wireless payment in Malaysia
2017 screen still so small
2017 to use your older premium earphone 100 to 5k you need to buy a converter or got dumbass tell u that its wireless and throw your old earphones
2017 still need to jailbreak
2017 can't transfer doc to other phone instantly

Don't seems like a very good 2017 for an iphone. Seems like going backwards
Wow the iPhone u worship really.lack of alot of things in 2017 beside smooth
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U give 100 reasons y android is better ifag will just reply no lag in iphone
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2 models only. Lmao
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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ May 17 2017, 06:03 PM)
U give 100 reasons y android is better ifag will just reply no lag in iphone
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So many times i laugh at iphone users because so difficult to do just simple tasks any android can. File storage is also just dumb. Nuff said.
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I like how some bring out big brand earphone manufacturers for wired earphones, and u telling me u use ur phones to listen to these iems and headphones. kek logic.
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Its like arguing cutting your legs because wheelchair  is easier and faster.
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How is using wheelchair easier and faster? Sigh

Anyway..ntg against andriod..in fact it is good that many will have access to smartphones as iphone is expensive..just what windows did in the 90s..but when u ready to step up..buy apple


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Kutuk iPhone nobody gives a fucuk

Kutuk Android phones, all hell breaks loose

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QUOTE(Velocity @ May 17 2017, 04:47 PM)
Yea 2017 iPhone screen still flat

2017 still no widget 
2017 still  can't send Bluetooth
2017 still no wireless charging
2017 still not rated ip68
2017 still no iris scanner
2017 still no curve edge screen
2017 bezel thicker than your forehead
2017 still can't use 2 SIM cards
2017 still no micro sd slot
2017 still no fast charging only tortoise charging
2017 iPhone price dropping continuously while other brand price going up
2017 still need plug to itunes
2017 alot more ifags switch to android
2017 still cannot customize home screen beside add folders
2017 still no live wallpaper
2017 still no AOD( Google it if u dunno)
2017 still no wireless payment in Malaysia
2017 screen still so small
2017 to use your older premium earphone 100 to 5k you need to buy a converter or got dumbass tell u that its wireless and throw your old earphones
2017 still need to jailbreak
2017 can't transfer doc to other phone instantly

Don't seems like a very good 2017 for an iphone. Seems like going backwards
Wow the iPhone u worship really.lack of alot of things in 2017 beside smooth
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QUOTE(Velocity @ May 17 2017, 04:47 PM)
Yea 2017 iPhone screen still flat

2017 still no widget 
2017 still  can't send Bluetooth
2017 still no wireless charging
2017 still not rated ip68
2017 still no iris scanner
2017 still no curve edge screen
2017 bezel thicker than your forehead
2017 still can't use 2 SIM cards
2017 still no micro sd slot
2017 still no fast charging only tortoise charging
2017 iPhone price dropping continuously while other brand price going up
2017 still need plug to itunes
2017 alot more ifags switch to android
2017 still cannot customize home screen beside add folders
2017 still no live wallpaper
2017 still no AOD( Google it if u dunno)
2017 still no wireless payment in Malaysia
2017 screen still so small
2017 to use your older premium earphone 100 to 5k you need to buy a converter or got dumbass tell u that its wireless and throw your old earphones
2017 still need to jailbreak
2017 can't transfer doc to other phone instantly

Don't seems like a very good 2017 for an iphone. Seems like going backwards
Wow the iPhone u worship really.lack of alot of things in 2017 beside smooth
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2017 carry Samsung still not gaya. Drop in hutan or water also nobody gives a damn
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Kutuk iPhone nobody gives a fucuk

Kutuk Android phones, all hell breaks loose

Kek
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....

So you and your sweet S8+ is still probably in a romantic honey moon period, where you glance at here e...
....

And for those reasons above, I'm back to an Iphone 7+.
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I have been using 2 droid phones together as I am holding 3 sim cards with me until recently got an iPhone from company. Overall, prefer iPhone for its simplicity which only I use my phone mostly for social medias, emails, cameras and Whatsapp. While most my droid phone many of its functions are being redundant and overall user experience is not refined as iPhone.

Well, in the end, I didn't get rid of the droid phone that I'm using cause iPhone still has its own limitation here and there. I let them complement each other.
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QUOTE(pekak07 @ May 17 2017, 09:55 AM)
A little history about me, who I consider myself as one of those called - the tech geek. I ventured into this never ending smartphone game a couple of years back, where my first phone was the Blackberry Storm 2 (it was the first pressure sensitive screen in its own ways yo). And just to name a few phones I have possessed in recent history, just to sorta prove my credentials here - Iphone 5, Iphone 6s, LG Nexus 5, LG G6, LG V10, Samsung S6 Edge, Samsung S7 Edge, Samsung S8+, Huawei Nexus 6P, Google Pixel, HTC Cha Cha, HTC M7, HTC M8, HTC M9, Blackberry Bold, Blackberry Z10, Blackkberry Passport, Nokia N9, Nokia Lumia 800, Nokia Lumia 1020, Lenovo Z2 Pro, Sony Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia Z Ultra, Xperia Z1 Xperia Z3, Xperia Z5 Premium, Xiaomi Mi3, Xiaomi Mi4, Xiaomi Note, Xiaomi Note 2, Xiaomi Mi Mix, Motorola Droid Turbo, Moto X, Motorola Droid Maxx and of course a couple that I have missed out. An not just that, the accessories that I have invested in my phones are monstrous. Back then when tempered glass wasn't even a thing I have spent at least thousands trying out different brands around the world, your Mimo Spigen Imos bla bla bla. I even resorted to nano liquid screen protectors, only to hope to find the perfect smartphone.  Anyway, the story here is about the two giants - The Iphone 7+ and the Samsung Galaxy S8+.

With no argument, the S8+ beats the Iphone in all ways aesthetics, and tahts the reason it only took me a heartbeat to pre order this beauty. I'm not gonna talk specs and functions, reviewers around the world will favour the S8+ and no one will disagree, I won't. The S8+ is stunning. So why did I fall back to my, which I would love to call it, the trustworthy Iphone 7+?

18.5 to 9 Screen Ratio

From my experience with phones, first hands on experience that leads to how big the smartphone is, is the width of the phone. Sure Samsung would have done thousands of surveys and focus groups to come to the same conclusion. Small phone, big screen, small width. Tara. So what's the problem here? If samsung, or LG, has decided to maintain the 16 to 9 screen ratio with the width of the S8 there isn't enough marketing noise. It's gonna be another 5.2" smartphone with better body ratio. So, let's increase the height! Now we get infinity display, 84% screen to body ratio, 5.7" screen in a compact body unheard of! Kudos to Samsung it bloody works, paired with 2k super AMOLED screen up to 1000 nits in brightness is amazing feat, claps.

But the thing is, aesthetics over functionality. That is when I first tried the S8, only to realize despite its marketed 5.7" screen, the narrow width makes everything seems....Iphone 5 ish?? Most especially felt during typing. So I quickly got the bigger brother, the plus. Felt much better instantly. many will argue that the transition is here, is real, accept it. 4:3 to 16:9 now 18:9, fine, I'll use it for a month to get myself used to it!

I did not, sadly. Seriously the only experience I'm gonna miss leaving this screen ratio is my e-book reading experience. That's all. Videos are just not produced in that format yet, yeah crop to fit and lose the tops and bottoms, not cool. Most of the games are rendered in 16:9, yeah force the immersion only to find many games have misaligned issues, especially in the game menus. I'm not here to argue that you have to give time for devs and video makers to start adapting the new ratio. Yes it takes time but the problem is, are they, the masses out there, are they gonna adapt? Unless I see all manufacturers start jumping into the ratio, which I don't, we might see mass adoption. On a separate case, if apple decides to trail on this, we might see that happen. And I'm taking an intellectual guess here, this ratio isn't here to stay.

The almighty bezeless display

The first name most would call upon, as a leader to this revolution, the Mi MIX, or the less known Sharp Aquos. NO! Surprise surprise, it's actually SONY. Don't believe me? Check this lil  brother to the original Xperia Z, the Sony Xperia ZL. Was not heavily marketed beside his bigger brother, and guess the smartphone market back then wasn't aware of small bezels.

My argument is, are these actually practical? First of all, they are bloody fragile. with the panels so close to the frame, they are destined to crack upon impact. History proves it, and still is.

Hand gymnastics. Although the Mi Mix, or the S8+, is extremely gorgeous, I find myself having a hard time to navigate around the screen. I have very little room to grip at the bottom when I type. I have a hard time reaching for the pull down notification from the top, clear notifications, interact with notifications. I have a hard time playing games with little grip on the side (you hold your phone, but your thumbs are shrunk into an awkward position to interact with the controls - Fifa, Mobile Legend etc.).

The Operating System

It's official, the S8 packs the best of the best specs on earth. 10nm processor architecture, Bluetooth 5.1, UFS 2.1 bla bla bla. For a tech person, or a tech audience like LYN members, it means a bloody lot. It means that we feel appreciated when we know manufacturers dish out the best of the best. But to others it means crap. And to the ah lian and ah bengs they only care about screen size and mega pixels.

So you and your sweet S8+ is still probably in a romantic honey moon period, where you glance at here even when there is no notifications, or when the screen is off, to my knowledge some forumers even lick them, yes the S8 fetish. Well mine was a short vacation, honeymoon period all over after the first week. What matters to me next is the user experience. And heads up, the Apple ecosystem beats it flat flat flat.

It's not Samsung's, or Android's fault here, at least on their own. They both offer the best techs, software and hardware the world could ask for. But it's the marriage that's at fault here. I love the customization and the open ecosystem on Android. I used to customize every single detail I could possibly tweak, I own hundreds of widget packs, I browse deviantart and mycolorscreen for inspirations. I love the fact I could download torrent on my phone. I love the pirated APKs. I love the rooting and the kernel level tweaks. I love IFTTT. I love comparing SOT after knowing some guys out in XDA tweaks the CPU and GPU better than stock baked ones. I love trying out different roms. I love all that. I do also love - CONSISTENCY.

If anyone here is willing to debate that Android is more reliable, more consistent, and smoother than IOS, I'm sure you have not used one yet. Take the fanboy out of you and start dealing it like a real man. The integration in the Apple ecosystem is just better. The apps on the Appstore is just plain fluid. The apps are just more polished on IOS, even Google's own offering. I play games on Iphones with close to no frame drops. I don't care if devs optimize them better, I don't care if Samsung needs to power double the pixels, I only want a fluid experience, that's all that matters. And sadly, I experience micro stutters all around the S8+, heck it even loses out to the OP3T and the pixel. So can we conclude that Touchwiz is still culprit here?

Of course there are the minor considerations of future updates, continuity, the  hardware flaws (fingerprint misplacement), single bottom firing speakers etc. These I can compensate for I know no smartphone is perfect.

And for those reasons above, I'm back to an Iphone 7+.
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QUOTE(walkmanphone @ May 17 2017, 07:06 PM)
I have been using 2 droid phones together as I am holding 3 sim cards with me until recently got an iPhone from company. Overall, prefer iPhone for its simplicity which only I use my phone mostly for social medias, emails, cameras and Whatsapp. While most my droid phone many of its functions are being redundant and overall user experience is not refined as iPhone. 

Well, in the end, I didn't get rid of the droid phone that I'm using cause iPhone still has its own limitation here and there. I let them complement each other.
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some issues with the ip7+

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/775400...tart=0&tstart=0

most users won't noticed it.

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QUOTE(Velocity @ May 17 2017, 04:47 PM)
Yea 2017 iPhone screen still flat

2017 still no widget 
2017 still  can't send Bluetooth
2017 still no wireless charging
2017 still not rated ip68
2017 still no iris scanner
2017 still no curve edge screen
2017 bezel thicker than your forehead
2017 still can't use 2 SIM cards
2017 still no micro sd slot
2017 still no fast charging only tortoise charging
2017 iPhone price dropping continuously while other brand price going up
2017 still need plug to itunes
2017 alot more ifags switch to android
2017 still cannot customize home screen beside add folders
2017 still no live wallpaper
2017 still no AOD( Google it if u dunno)
2017 still no wireless payment in Malaysia
2017 screen still so small
2017 to use your older premium earphone 100 to 5k you need to buy a converter or got dumbass tell u that its wireless and throw your old earphones
2017 still need to jailbreak
2017 can't transfer doc to other phone instantly

Don't seems like a very good 2017 for an iphone. Seems like going backwards
Wow the iPhone u worship really.lack of alot of things in 2017 beside smooth
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If 2018 iPhone have one of these feature e.g wireless charging Android fanboys be like:

-Apple copycat!! Apple sucks

-2018 only get this feature. Android already have long time ago. Now only play catch up. Lol Apple is so far behind kek


Kek Android fanboys' logic

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I have been using 2 droid phones together as I am holding 3 sim cards with me until recently got an iPhone from company. Overall, prefer iPhone for its simplicity which only I use my phone mostly for social medias, emails, cameras and Whatsapp. While most my droid phone many of its functions are being redundant and overall user experience is not refined as iPhone. 

Well, in the end, I didn't get rid of the droid phone that I'm using cause iPhone still has its own limitation here and there. I let them complement each other.
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Agreed🙇🏻‍♀️ I think both have pro n cons...just use both if u can✌🏻
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well...that escalated quickly. see topic also know bound for 30pgs
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QUOTE(pekak07 @ May 17 2017, 06:27 PM)
I like how some bring out big brand earphone manufacturers for wired earphones, and u telling me u use ur phones to listen to these iems and headphones. kek logic.
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Talk so much.

You use your se846 with what?
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QUOTE(Hinoarashi9 @ May 17 2017, 07:12 PM)
If 2018 iPhone  have one of these feature e.g wireless charging Android fanboys be like:

-Apple copycat!! Apple sucks

-2018 only get this feature. Android already have long time ago. Now only play catch up. Lol Apple is so far behind kek
Kek Android fanboys
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You have problem explaining yourself?
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kek sheep.
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QUOTE(acbc @ May 17 2017, 05:58 PM)
2GB RAM up sure no lag for iOS. Anything 1GB or below will lag like crazy.
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Yes, my iphone 4 couldnt keep up after 4 years of service. Iphone 6 working fine so far but lately the mute button keep on and off itself, making unnecessary short vibrations, if u know what i mean.

Recently got an android phone from company, loving it a lot. i really hate the back and menu button in android a lot, it's like my finger can only rest on top part of the phone.

Having said these, my next phone gonna be android for sure looking at the price of handphones now.
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I stop buying iphones since iphone5 (or when Steve died).
Those still with iphone superiority complex should really wake up and smell flower/coffee.


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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 17 2017, 07:11 PM)
some issues with the ip7+

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/775400...tart=0&tstart=0

most users won't noticed it.
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I see, good to know but what the camera provided by iPhone so far sufficient for me.
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QUOTE(nasrulafiq93 @ May 17 2017, 12:17 PM)
Yada yada isheep punya reasoning macam budak 2 tahun punya alasan tak nak pergi nursery. Such bullshit.

Kau dah isheep mengaku je la bodo
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QUOTE(wertty @ May 17 2017, 12:34 PM)
haha

actually theres no need for back button, just swipe right from left side of screen to go back in any applications.

simple ! Instead of having 3 buttons below you only have one.
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what year are you living in? We dont even need a physical button now. Top kek sheeple logic.
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Now I have to look for an iPhone 4 to play all my paid apps. No longer updated for many years like Command & Conquer and Monkey Island.
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'Sheeple' is now in the dictionary, and Apple users are the example.

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Merriam-Webster gleefully tweeted a new addition to its online dictionary: “sheeple,” or “people who are docile, compliant, or easily influenced.”
You might not immediately draw a connection to one particular proclivity over another, but Merriam-Webster takes the liberty of quoting CNN technology columnist Doug Criss.

“Apple's debuted a battery case for the juice-sucking iPhone — an ungainly lumpy case the sheeple will happily shell out $99 for,” the example reads.
It’s from a 2015 news roundup Criss published on CNN’s website, which Merriam-Webster seems to point to as a prime example of the popular modern-day use of the term.
Sheeple dates back to 1945, according to the dictionary entry, most likely as a derogatory term for helpless followers of consumer trends of the time.
Nowadays, however, it’s more likely to poke fun at blind followers of the iPhone maker.
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QUOTE(x @ May 17 2017, 07:15 PM)
Talk so much. 

You use your se846 with what?
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QUOTE(LordDenning @ May 17 2017, 08:47 PM)
what year are you living in? We dont even need a physical button now. Top kek sheeple logic.
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you sure ?

whats your power button made of then ?

trying to look smart but clearly isnt.
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both also got pros and cons la..

thr is no THE best phone..
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ May 17 2017, 06:04 PM)
got so much reasons yet still sales figure shows it all.
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QUOTE(Hinoarashi9 @ May 17 2017, 06:58 PM)
Kutuk iPhone nobody gives a fucuk

Kutuk Android phones, all hell breaks loose

Kek
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This is always the case, my thoughts toward android users is that they have superiority complex.

They always try hard to justify their purchase and compare everything

They are like people who jogg, does yoga and vegan you dont need to ask them, they will tell you.
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QUOTE(pekak07 @ May 17 2017, 09:55 AM)
A little history about me, who I consider myself as one of those called - the tech geek. I ventured into this never ending smartphone game a couple of years back, where my first phone was the Blackberry Storm 2 (it was the first pressure sensitive screen in its own ways yo). And just to name a few phones I have possessed in recent history, just to sorta prove my credentials here - Iphone 5, Iphone 6s, LG Nexus 5, LG G6, LG V10, Samsung S6 Edge, Samsung S7 Edge, Samsung S8+, Huawei Nexus 6P, Google Pixel, HTC Cha Cha, HTC M7, HTC M8, HTC M9, Blackberry Bold, Blackberry Z10, Blackkberry Passport, Nokia N9, Nokia Lumia 800, Nokia Lumia 1020, Lenovo Z2 Pro, Sony Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia Z Ultra, Xperia Z1 Xperia Z3, Xperia Z5 Premium, Xiaomi Mi3, Xiaomi Mi4, Xiaomi Note, Xiaomi Note 2, Xiaomi Mi Mix, Motorola Droid Turbo, Moto X, Motorola Droid Maxx and of course a couple that I have missed out. An not just that, the accessories that I have invested in my phones are monstrous. Back then when tempered glass wasn't even a thing I have spent at least thousands trying out different brands around the world, your Mimo Spigen Imos bla bla bla. I even resorted to nano liquid screen protectors, only to hope to find the perfect smartphone.  Anyway, the story here is about the two giants - The Iphone 7+ and the Samsung Galaxy S8+.

With no argument, the S8+ beats the Iphone in all ways aesthetics, and tahts the reason it only took me a heartbeat to pre order this beauty. I'm not gonna talk specs and functions, reviewers around the world will favour the S8+ and no one will disagree, I won't. The S8+ is stunning. So why did I fall back to my, which I would love to call it, the trustworthy Iphone 7+?

18.5 to 9 Screen Ratio

From my experience with phones, first hands on experience that leads to how big the smartphone is, is the width of the phone. Sure Samsung would have done thousands of surveys and focus groups to come to the same conclusion. Small phone, big screen, small width. Tara. So what's the problem here? If samsung, or LG, has decided to maintain the 16 to 9 screen ratio with the width of the S8 there isn't enough marketing noise. It's gonna be another 5.2" smartphone with better body ratio. So, let's increase the height! Now we get infinity display, 84% screen to body ratio, 5.7" screen in a compact body unheard of! Kudos to Samsung it bloody works, paired with 2k super AMOLED screen up to 1000 nits in brightness is amazing feat, claps.

But the thing is, aesthetics over functionality. That is when I first tried the S8, only to realize despite its marketed 5.7" screen, the narrow width makes everything seems....Iphone 5 ish?? Most especially felt during typing. So I quickly got the bigger brother, the plus. Felt much better instantly. many will argue that the transition is here, is real, accept it. 4:3 to 16:9 now 18:9, fine, I'll use it for a month to get myself used to it!

I did not, sadly. Seriously the only experience I'm gonna miss leaving this screen ratio is my e-book reading experience. That's all. Videos are just not produced in that format yet, yeah crop to fit and lose the tops and bottoms, not cool. Most of the games are rendered in 16:9, yeah force the immersion only to find many games have misaligned issues, especially in the game menus. I'm not here to argue that you have to give time for devs and video makers to start adapting the new ratio. Yes it takes time but the problem is, are they, the masses out there, are they gonna adapt? Unless I see all manufacturers start jumping into the ratio, which I don't, we might see mass adoption. On a separate case, if apple decides to trail on this, we might see that happen. And I'm taking an intellectual guess here, this ratio isn't here to stay.

The almighty bezeless display

The first name most would call upon, as a leader to this revolution, the Mi MIX, or the less known Sharp Aquos. NO! Surprise surprise, it's actually SONY. Don't believe me? Check this lil  brother to the original Xperia Z, the Sony Xperia ZL. Was not heavily marketed beside his bigger brother, and guess the smartphone market back then wasn't aware of small bezels.

My argument is, are these actually practical? First of all, they are bloody fragile. with the panels so close to the frame, they are destined to crack upon impact. History proves it, and still is.

Hand gymnastics. Although the Mi Mix, or the S8+, is extremely gorgeous, I find myself having a hard time to navigate around the screen. I have very little room to grip at the bottom when I type. I have a hard time reaching for the pull down notification from the top, clear notifications, interact with notifications. I have a hard time playing games with little grip on the side (you hold your phone, but your thumbs are shrunk into an awkward position to interact with the controls - Fifa, Mobile Legend etc.).

The Operating System

It's official, the S8 packs the best of the best specs on earth. 10nm processor architecture, Bluetooth 5.1, UFS 2.1 bla bla bla. For a tech person, or a tech audience like LYN members, it means a bloody lot. It means that we feel appreciated when we know manufacturers dish out the best of the best. But to others it means crap. And to the ah lian and ah bengs they only care about screen size and mega pixels.

So you and your sweet S8+ is still probably in a romantic honey moon period, where you glance at here even when there is no notifications, or when the screen is off, to my knowledge some forumers even lick them, yes the S8 fetish. Well mine was a short vacation, honeymoon period all over after the first week. What matters to me next is the user experience. And heads up, the Apple ecosystem beats it flat flat flat.

It's not Samsung's, or Android's fault here, at least on their own. They both offer the best techs, software and hardware the world could ask for. But it's the marriage that's at fault here. I love the customization and the open ecosystem on Android. I used to customize every single detail I could possibly tweak, I own hundreds of widget packs, I browse deviantart and mycolorscreen for inspirations. I love the fact I could download torrent on my phone. I love the pirated APKs. I love the rooting and the kernel level tweaks. I love IFTTT. I love comparing SOT after knowing some guys out in XDA tweaks the CPU and GPU better than stock baked ones. I love trying out different roms. I love all that. I do also love - CONSISTENCY.

If anyone here is willing to debate that Android is more reliable, more consistent, and smoother than IOS, I'm sure you have not used one yet. Take the fanboy out of you and start dealing it like a real man. The integration in the Apple ecosystem is just better. The apps on the Appstore is just plain fluid. The apps are just more polished on IOS, even Google's own offering. I play games on Iphones with close to no frame drops. I don't care if devs optimize them better, I don't care if Samsung needs to power double the pixels, I only want a fluid experience, that's all that matters. And sadly, I experience micro stutters all around the S8+, heck it even loses out to the OP3T and the pixel. So can we conclude that Touchwiz is still culprit here?

Of course there are the minor considerations of future updates, continuity, the  hardware flaws (fingerprint misplacement), single bottom firing speakers etc. These I can compensate for I know no smartphone is perfect.

And for those reasons above, I'm back to an Iphone 7+.
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With the apple close system of course it's fluid. If you use it for more than games you would realise. Switching between App to edit documents and refer to - android beats it. You have not tried the huawei mate 9 Pro. Dual SIM dual everything and still fluid.
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QUOTE(dembaba9000 @ May 17 2017, 09:09 PM)
Me poor fag. wm1a with chord mojo only.
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you got good taste of dac+amp

its true that real audiophiles wont use phones as source.

DAP will sound much better than phones anyway, plus no phones can truly support FLAC at highest sampling possible. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(wertty @ May 17 2017, 09:35 PM)
This is always the case, my thoughts toward android users is that they have superiority complex.

They always try hard to justify their purchase and compare everything

They are like people who jogg, does yoga and vegan you dont need to ask them, they will tell you.
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no it's not..

It's because ifag always need to blare all the sirens to the whole world that they got iphone or what 7..

it's not common that ios users that moved to android do that. It's the sheep mentality that annoyed the crap out of everyone.

Btw, most of the iphone users just afraid to "change".. smartphone user konon lol..




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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ May 17 2017, 09:34 PM)
The power of sheeps
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"Why i switch from S8 to ipone - Let me start off by saying im a tech geek"

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problem with OEM android is its fucking huge

only sony care about compact version at flagship spec

and google pixel if you're filthy rich
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QUOTE(wertty @ May 17 2017, 09:29 PM)
you sure ?

whats your power button made of then ?

trying to look smart but clearly isnt.
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you talking about back button and home button then suddenly go to power button..

Kesian cannot argue on your point have to divert topic.


Its ok sheeple.
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QUOTE(tungfunglaw @ May 17 2017, 08:43 PM)
no it's not..

It's because ifag always need to blare all the sirens to the whole world that they got iphone or what 7..

it's not common that ios users that moved to android do that. It's the sheep mentality that annoyed the crap out of everyone.

Btw, most of the iphone users just afraid to "change".. smartphone user konon lol..
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it's more on inferiority complex..some android users need to "compensate" their self esteem by mentioning iris scanner..curved display n all that shits when they are all lacking substance..TS mentioned he switched BACK from S8+ to iphone..even i tried so hard to change to andriod..but apple ECOSYSTEM is so superior that android is no way close to emulate..maybe another decade it will change, but now it is no contest..just accept it.

just like korean cars...they give u all the gadgets in the world to temp consumers while toyota just give u basic stuff...yet people still go to toyota..sigh

(on what his greatest creation is: iPhone, iPad?) No. Apple, the company. Because anybody can create products, but Apple keeps creating great products.
Steve Jobs, 2011

it's about substance..get it?
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QUOTE(firecracker @ May 17 2017, 10:35 PM)
it's more on inferiority complex..some android users need to "compensate" their self esteem by mentioning iris scanner..curved display n all that shits when they are all lacking substance..TS mentioned he switched BACK from S8+ to iphone..even i tried so hard to change to andriod..but apple ECOSYSTEM is so superior that android is no way close to emulate..maybe another decade it will change, but now it is no contest..just accept it.

just like korean cars...they give u all the gadgets in the world to temp consumers while toyota just give u basic stuff...yet people still go to toyota..sigh

(on what his greatest creation is: iPhone, iPad?) No. Apple, the company. Because anybody can create products, but Apple keeps creating great products.
Steve Jobs, 2011

it's about substance..get it?
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QUOTE(ajax91 @ May 17 2017, 10:41 PM)
LoL
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My mom used to tell me when u have nothing better to say keep your mouth shut, it reflects a lot about you, and your family, don't embarrass me.

Just saying you know, no hard feelings yeah.
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QUOTE(dembaba9000 @ May 17 2017, 10:43 PM)
My mom used to tell me when u have nothing better to say keep your mouth shut, it reflects a lot about you, and your family, don't embarrass me.

Just saying you know, no hard feelings yeah.
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Your mom tell you? Then your mom is taking about you
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QUOTE(ajax91 @ May 17 2017, 10:47 PM)
Your mom tell you? Then your mom is taking about you
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But I lucky la coz I learn it since young.
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QUOTE(dembaba9000 @ May 17 2017, 09:09 PM)
Me poor fag. wm1a with chord mojo only.
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Either that is your dupe. Or you a bodo use overpriced player as transport.

Why not buy wm1z and plug to mojo?


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Inbe4 using rm5000 optical cable to connect them both. doh.gif


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QUOTE(x @ May 17 2017, 10:52 PM)
Either that is your dupe. Or you a bodo use overpriced player as transport.

Why not buy wm1z and plug to mojo?
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Inbe4 using rm5000 optical cable to connect them both. doh.gif
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Cuz me poor fag.
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QUOTE(firecracker @ May 17 2017, 10:35 PM)
it's more on inferiority complex..some android users need to "compensate" their self esteem by mentioning iris scanner..curved display n all that shits when they are all lacking substance..TS mentioned he switched BACK from S8+ to iphone..even i tried so hard to change to andriod..but apple ECOSYSTEM is so superior that android is no way close to emulate..maybe another decade it will change, but now it is no contest..just accept it.

just like korean cars...they give u all the gadgets in the world to temp consumers while toyota just give u basic stuff...yet people still go to toyota..sigh

(on what his greatest creation is: iPhone, iPad?) No. Apple, the company. Because anybody can create products, but Apple keeps creating great products.
Steve Jobs, 2011

it's about substance..get it?
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What ecosystem so superior?

Those games were created for ios then port to android.

And the bloody ios cant even have a good browser that supports a proper night mode.


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QUOTE(wertty @ May 17 2017, 09:41 PM)
you got good taste of dac+amp

its true that real audiophiles wont use phones as source.

DAP will sound much better than phones anyway, plus no phones can truly support FLAC at highest sampling possible.  laugh.gif
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So insecure. Pusing from wireless and then try to talk about audiophile.

laugh.gif and we know wireless headphone are rubbish.

Inbe4 bodo talk flac highest sampling. Without knowing its just 16bit (redbook la bangang)

Inbe4 galaxy s8 supports 32bit PCM and dsd64/128

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QUOTE(firecracker @ May 17 2017, 10:35 PM)
it's more on inferiority complex..some android users need to "compensate" their self esteem by mentioning iris scanner..curved display n all that shits when they are all lacking substance..TS mentioned he switched BACK from S8+ to iphone..even i tried so hard to change to andriod..but apple ECOSYSTEM is so superior that android is no way close to emulate..maybe another decade it will change, but now it is no contest..just accept it.

just like korean cars...they give u all the gadgets in the world to temp consumers while toyota just give u basic stuff...yet people still go to toyota..sigh

(on what his greatest creation is: iPhone, iPad?) No. Apple, the company. Because anybody can create products, but Apple keeps creating great products.
Steve Jobs, 2011

it's about substance..get it?
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wtf lol.. Apple's superior ECOSYSTEM?

Iphone users mostly use Spotify, Apple Pay available in msia? how many iphone users own a Mac book? LOLLLLLL...

macam yes..tapi bukan laugh.gif

Pls stop embarrassing yourself, it's so pitiful. U call some android users got inferiority complex yet at the same time u r douche-bagging abt your apple stuff. What!? laugh.gif









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QUOTE(x @ May 17 2017, 11:00 PM)
So insecure. Pusing  from wireless and then try to talk about audiophile.

laugh.gif and we know wireless headphone are rubbish.

Inbe4 bodo talk flac highest sampling. Without knowing its just 16bit (redbook la bangang)

Inbe4 galaxy s8 supports 32bit PCM and dsd64/128

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flac ? 16 bit rclxms.gif

well done, you re getting dumber every post. doh.gif

next time dont google everything.
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QUOTE(x @ May 17 2017, 09:54 PM)
What ecosystem so superior?

Those games were created for ios then port to android.

And the bloody ios cant even have a good browser that supports a proper night mode.
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oh shit! i'm gonna switch to android tomorrow
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QUOTE(tungfunglaw @ May 17 2017, 10:22 PM)
wtf lol.. Apple's superior ECOSYSTEM?

Iphone users mostly use Spotify, Apple Pay available in msia? how many iphone users own a Mac book? LOLLLLLL...

macam yes..tapi bukan  laugh.gif

Pls stop embarrassing yourself, it's so pitiful. U call some android users got inferiority complex yet at the same time u r douche-bagging abt your apple stuff. What!?  laugh.gif
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stupid

nuff said
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The best feature which keeps me hooked with Android is fast charging. Ever since I've started using this feature, my power banks are kept at home collecting dust.. I will never jump back to Iphone, unless they start to use fast charging.
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QUOTE(Slowpokeking @ May 17 2017, 11:37 PM)
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Conlanfirm at least 3-4 pages, just dis time ts good one didnt just hit and run.

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QUOTE(pekak07 @ May 17 2017, 09:55 AM)
A little history about me, who I consider myself as one of those called - the tech geek. I ventured into this never ending smartphone game a couple of years back, where my first phone was the Blackberry Storm 2 (it was the first pressure sensitive screen in its own ways yo). And just to name a few phones I have possessed in recent history, just to sorta prove my credentials here - Iphone 5, Iphone 6s, LG Nexus 5, LG G6, LG V10, Samsung S6 Edge, Samsung S7 Edge, Samsung S8+, Huawei Nexus 6P, Google Pixel, HTC Cha Cha, HTC M7, HTC M8, HTC M9, Blackberry Bold, Blackberry Z10, Blackkberry Passport, Nokia N9, Nokia Lumia 800, Nokia Lumia 1020, Lenovo Z2 Pro, Sony Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia Z Ultra, Xperia Z1 Xperia Z3, Xperia Z5 Premium, Xiaomi Mi3, Xiaomi Mi4, Xiaomi Note, Xiaomi Note 2, Xiaomi Mi Mix, Motorola Droid Turbo, Moto X, Motorola Droid Maxx and of course a couple that I have missed out. An not just that, the accessories that I have invested in my phones are monstrous. Back then when tempered glass wasn't even a thing I have spent at least thousands trying out different brands around the world, your Mimo Spigen Imos bla bla bla. I even resorted to nano liquid screen protectors, only to hope to find the perfect smartphone.  Anyway, the story here is about the two giants - The Iphone 7+ and the Samsung Galaxy S8+.

With no argument, the S8+ beats the Iphone in all ways aesthetics, and tahts the reason it only took me a heartbeat to pre order this beauty. I'm not gonna talk specs and functions, reviewers around the world will favour the S8+ and no one will disagree, I won't. The S8+ is stunning. So why did I fall back to my, which I would love to call it, the trustworthy Iphone 7+?

18.5 to 9 Screen Ratio

From my experience with phones, first hands on experience that leads to how big the smartphone is, is the width of the phone. Sure Samsung would have done thousands of surveys and focus groups to come to the same conclusion. Small phone, big screen, small width. Tara. So what's the problem here? If samsung, or LG, has decided to maintain the 16 to 9 screen ratio with the width of the S8 there isn't enough marketing noise. It's gonna be another 5.2" smartphone with better body ratio. So, let's increase the height! Now we get infinity display, 84% screen to body ratio, 5.7" screen in a compact body unheard of! Kudos to Samsung it bloody works, paired with 2k super AMOLED screen up to 1000 nits in brightness is amazing feat, claps.

But the thing is, aesthetics over functionality. That is when I first tried the S8, only to realize despite its marketed 5.7" screen, the narrow width makes everything seems....Iphone 5 ish?? Most especially felt during typing. So I quickly got the bigger brother, the plus. Felt much better instantly. many will argue that the transition is here, is real, accept it. 4:3 to 16:9 now 18:9, fine, I'll use it for a month to get myself used to it!

I did not, sadly. Seriously the only experience I'm gonna miss leaving this screen ratio is my e-book reading experience. That's all. Videos are just not produced in that format yet, yeah crop to fit and lose the tops and bottoms, not cool. Most of the games are rendered in 16:9, yeah force the immersion only to find many games have misaligned issues, especially in the game menus. I'm not here to argue that you have to give time for devs and video makers to start adapting the new ratio. Yes it takes time but the problem is, are they, the masses out there, are they gonna adapt? Unless I see all manufacturers start jumping into the ratio, which I don't, we might see mass adoption. On a separate case, if apple decides to trail on this, we might see that happen. And I'm taking an intellectual guess here, this ratio isn't here to stay.

The almighty bezeless display

The first name most would call upon, as a leader to this revolution, the Mi MIX, or the less known Sharp Aquos. NO! Surprise surprise, it's actually SONY. Don't believe me? Check this lil  brother to the original Xperia Z, the Sony Xperia ZL. Was not heavily marketed beside his bigger brother, and guess the smartphone market back then wasn't aware of small bezels.

My argument is, are these actually practical? First of all, they are bloody fragile. with the panels so close to the frame, they are destined to crack upon impact. History proves it, and still is.

Hand gymnastics. Although the Mi Mix, or the S8+, is extremely gorgeous, I find myself having a hard time to navigate around the screen. I have very little room to grip at the bottom when I type. I have a hard time reaching for the pull down notification from the top, clear notifications, interact with notifications. I have a hard time playing games with little grip on the side (you hold your phone, but your thumbs are shrunk into an awkward position to interact with the controls - Fifa, Mobile Legend etc.).

The Operating System

It's official, the S8 packs the best of the best specs on earth. 10nm processor architecture, Bluetooth 5.1, UFS 2.1 bla bla bla. For a tech person, or a tech audience like LYN members, it means a bloody lot. It means that we feel appreciated when we know manufacturers dish out the best of the best. But to others it means crap. And to the ah lian and ah bengs they only care about screen size and mega pixels.

So you and your sweet S8+ is still probably in a romantic honey moon period, where you glance at here even when there is no notifications, or when the screen is off, to my knowledge some forumers even lick them, yes the S8 fetish. Well mine was a short vacation, honeymoon period all over after the first week. What matters to me next is the user experience. And heads up, the Apple ecosystem beats it flat flat flat.

It's not Samsung's, or Android's fault here, at least on their own. They both offer the best techs, software and hardware the world could ask for. But it's the marriage that's at fault here. I love the customization and the open ecosystem on Android. I used to customize every single detail I could possibly tweak, I own hundreds of widget packs, I browse deviantart and mycolorscreen for inspirations. I love the fact I could download torrent on my phone. I love the pirated APKs. I love the rooting and the kernel level tweaks. I love IFTTT. I love comparing SOT after knowing some guys out in XDA tweaks the CPU and GPU better than stock baked ones. I love trying out different roms. I love all that. I do also love - CONSISTENCY.

If anyone here is willing to debate that Android is more reliable, more consistent, and smoother than IOS, I'm sure you have not used one yet. Take the fanboy out of you and start dealing it like a real man. The integration in the Apple ecosystem is just better. The apps on the Appstore is just plain fluid. The apps are just more polished on IOS, even Google's own offering. I play games on Iphones with close to no frame drops. I don't care if devs optimize them better, I don't care if Samsung needs to power double the pixels, I only want a fluid experience, that's all that matters. And sadly, I experience micro stutters all around the S8+, heck it even loses out to the OP3T and the pixel. So can we conclude that Touchwiz is still culprit here?

Of course there are the minor considerations of future updates, continuity, the  hardware flaws (fingerprint misplacement), single bottom firing speakers etc. These I can compensate for I know no smartphone is perfect.

And for those reasons above, I'm back to an Iphone 7+.
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Android was once mostly for nerds until samsung brought it to the masses with their galaxy S2. Since then every ah lian ah Beng uses Android so, no you can't try to sound cool now.

My first smartphone was an Android, HTC OneX in around 2012? For the past 5 years I've tried iOS but I just can't get used to not having a back button. And can't control shutter speed, ISO, white balance etc.

And yeah, that Quick Charge.. Can't live without it.
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QUOTE(wertty @ May 17 2017, 11:25 PM)
flac ? 16 bit rclxms.gif

well done, you re getting dumber every post.  doh.gif

next time dont google everything.
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QUOTE(Raymond T. @ May 18 2017, 03:35 AM)
Using both Apple & Android. I still prefer Apple more then android. Mostly on calls/SMS & social apps, don't really use other features.
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QUOTE(tungfunglaw @ May 17 2017, 11:22 PM)
wtf lol.. Apple's superior ECOSYSTEM?

Iphone users mostly use Spotify, Apple Pay available in msia? how many iphone users own a Mac book? LOLLLLLL...

macam yes..tapi bukan  laugh.gif

Pls stop embarrassing yourself, it's so pitiful. U call some android users got inferiority complex yet at the same time u r douche-bagging abt your apple stuff. What!?  laugh.gif
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anyhow no need macbooks to enjoy the ecosystem, a simple ipad + iphone combo can already.

if someone calls you to your iphone, your ipad will ring as well, so if my phone is upstairs and i'm downstairs playing ipad i can accept the call without running to take the phone
same with SMS/imessage, as long you got iOS device, all synced, sent and receive from them
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QUOTE(firecracker @ May 17 2017, 11:33 PM)
my friend,

stupidity = can still learn

combo stupidity + naivety = u have no hope
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When habis budget, use personal attack lol.. just like dumno laugh.gif

U cant even answer simple question yet wanna act like so-high class society whistling.gif

Pls dont start a fire if u cant take the heat lol... Golden example of ifag muahahaa...




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QUOTE(tungfunglaw @ May 18 2017, 07:15 AM)
When habis budget, use personal attack lol.. just like dumno  laugh.gif

U cant even answer simple question yet wanna act like so-high class society  whistling.gif

Pls dont start a fire if u cant take the heat lol... Golden example of ifag muahahaa...
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i mention one word: ecosystem..u going crazy..i didnt use the word iphone or ipad etc..maybe the word ecosystem is beyond ur comprehension..i understand..i truly do...it's like giving a banana or a gold bar to a monkey...u will always pick banana over gold..

enjoy ur banana buddy brows.gif
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QUOTE(pekak07 @ May 17 2017, 09:55 AM)
A little history about me, who I consider myself as one of those called - the tech geek. I ventured into this never ending smartphone game a couple of years back, where my first phone was the Blackberry Storm 2 (it was the first pressure sensitive screen in its own ways yo). And just to name a few phones I have possessed in recent history, just to sorta prove my credentials here - Iphone 5, Iphone 6s, LG Nexus 5, LG G6, LG V10, Samsung S6 Edge, Samsung S7 Edge, Samsung S8+, Huawei Nexus 6P, Google Pixel, HTC Cha Cha, HTC M7, HTC M8, HTC M9, Blackberry Bold, Blackberry Z10, Blackkberry Passport, Nokia N9, Nokia Lumia 800, Nokia Lumia 1020, Lenovo Z2 Pro, Sony Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia Z Ultra, Xperia Z1 Xperia Z3, Xperia Z5 Premium, Xiaomi Mi3, Xiaomi Mi4, Xiaomi Note, Xiaomi Note 2, Xiaomi Mi Mix, Motorola Droid Turbo, Moto X, Motorola Droid Maxx and of course a couple that I have missed out. An not just that, the accessories that I have invested in my phones are monstrous. Back then when tempered glass wasn't even a thing I have spent at least thousands trying out different brands around the world, your Mimo Spigen Imos bla bla bla. I even resorted to nano liquid screen protectors, only to hope to find the perfect smartphone.  Anyway, the story here is about the two giants - The Iphone 7+ and the Samsung Galaxy S8+.

With no argument, the S8+ beats the Iphone in all ways aesthetics, and tahts the reason it only took me a heartbeat to pre order this beauty. I'm not gonna talk specs and functions, reviewers around the world will favour the S8+ and no one will disagree, I won't. The S8+ is stunning. So why did I fall back to my, which I would love to call it, the trustworthy Iphone 7+?

18.5 to 9 Screen Ratio

From my experience with phones, first hands on experience that leads to how big the smartphone is, is the width of the phone. Sure Samsung would have done thousands of surveys and focus groups to come to the same conclusion. Small phone, big screen, small width. Tara. So what's the problem here? If samsung, or LG, has decided to maintain the 16 to 9 screen ratio with the width of the S8 there isn't enough marketing noise. It's gonna be another 5.2" smartphone with better body ratio. So, let's increase the height! Now we get infinity display, 84% screen to body ratio, 5.7" screen in a compact body unheard of! Kudos to Samsung it bloody works, paired with 2k super AMOLED screen up to 1000 nits in brightness is amazing feat, claps.

But the thing is, aesthetics over functionality. That is when I first tried the S8, only to realize despite its marketed 5.7" screen, the narrow width makes everything seems....Iphone 5 ish?? Most especially felt during typing. So I quickly got the bigger brother, the plus. Felt much better instantly. many will argue that the transition is here, is real, accept it. 4:3 to 16:9 now 18:9, fine, I'll use it for a month to get myself used to it!

I did not, sadly. Seriously the only experience I'm gonna miss leaving this screen ratio is my e-book reading experience. That's all. Videos are just not produced in that format yet, yeah crop to fit and lose the tops and bottoms, not cool. Most of the games are rendered in 16:9, yeah force the immersion only to find many games have misaligned issues, especially in the game menus. I'm not here to argue that you have to give time for devs and video makers to start adapting the new ratio. Yes it takes time but the problem is, are they, the masses out there, are they gonna adapt? Unless I see all manufacturers start jumping into the ratio, which I don't, we might see mass adoption. On a separate case, if apple decides to trail on this, we might see that happen. And I'm taking an intellectual guess here, this ratio isn't here to stay.

The almighty bezeless display

The first name most would call upon, as a leader to this revolution, the Mi MIX, or the less known Sharp Aquos. NO! Surprise surprise, it's actually SONY. Don't believe me? Check this lil  brother to the original Xperia Z, the Sony Xperia ZL. Was not heavily marketed beside his bigger brother, and guess the smartphone market back then wasn't aware of small bezels.

My argument is, are these actually practical? First of all, they are bloody fragile. with the panels so close to the frame, they are destined to crack upon impact. History proves it, and still is.

Hand gymnastics. Although the Mi Mix, or the S8+, is extremely gorgeous, I find myself having a hard time to navigate around the screen. I have very little room to grip at the bottom when I type. I have a hard time reaching for the pull down notification from the top, clear notifications, interact with notifications. I have a hard time playing games with little grip on the side (you hold your phone, but your thumbs are shrunk into an awkward position to interact with the controls - Fifa, Mobile Legend etc.).

The Operating System

It's official, the S8 packs the best of the best specs on earth. 10nm processor architecture, Bluetooth 5.1, UFS 2.1 bla bla bla. For a tech person, or a tech audience like LYN members, it means a bloody lot. It means that we feel appreciated when we know manufacturers dish out the best of the best. But to others it means crap. And to the ah lian and ah bengs they only care about screen size and mega pixels.

So you and your sweet S8+ is still probably in a romantic honey moon period, where you glance at here even when there is no notifications, or when the screen is off, to my knowledge some forumers even lick them, yes the S8 fetish. Well mine was a short vacation, honeymoon period all over after the first week. What matters to me next is the user experience. And heads up, the Apple ecosystem beats it flat flat flat.

It's not Samsung's, or Android's fault here, at least on their own. They both offer the best techs, software and hardware the world could ask for. But it's the marriage that's at fault here. I love the customization and the open ecosystem on Android. I used to customize every single detail I could possibly tweak, I own hundreds of widget packs, I browse deviantart and mycolorscreen for inspirations. I love the fact I could download torrent on my phone. I love the pirated APKs. I love the rooting and the kernel level tweaks. I love IFTTT. I love comparing SOT after knowing some guys out in XDA tweaks the CPU and GPU better than stock baked ones. I love trying out different roms. I love all that. I do also love - CONSISTENCY.

If anyone here is willing to debate that Android is more reliable, more consistent, and smoother than IOS, I'm sure you have not used one yet. Take the fanboy out of you and start dealing it like a real man. The integration in the Apple ecosystem is just better. The apps on the Appstore is just plain fluid. The apps are just more polished on IOS, even Google's own offering. I play games on Iphones with close to no frame drops. I don't care if devs optimize them better, I don't care if Samsung needs to power double the pixels, I only want a fluid experience, that's all that matters. And sadly, I experience micro stutters all around the S8+, heck it even loses out to the OP3T and the pixel. So can we conclude that Touchwiz is still culprit here?

Of course there are the minor considerations of future updates, continuity, the  hardware flaws (fingerprint misplacement), single bottom firing speakers etc. These I can compensate for I know no smartphone is perfect.

And for those reasons above, I'm back to an Iphone 7+.
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Eh.. Microsoft's Windows Phone has an incredible UI, is rock steady and all the apps (all ten of them) works flawlessly smile.gif Meanwhile I've configured the Android to have an extra-long vibrate in case I don't feel it.
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QUOTE(Raymond T. @ May 18 2017, 03:35 AM)
Using both Apple & Android. I still prefer Apple more then android. Mostly on calls/SMS & social apps, don't really use other features.
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Yes if you underuse your phone and care more about how it looks, sure. I have to depend on offline Google Maps a lot. I use Chrome on my phone a lot (in desktop mode) - it's exactly the same as desktop smile.gif
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Strange to see the extents people go to, just to justify to their interest.

Wireless charging, YAAAAY wireless world we are coming!!!

Wireless earphones, BOOOOO noob quality!!!
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post May 18 2017, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(pekak07 @ May 18 2017, 09:05 AM)
Strange to see the extents people go to, just to justify to their interest.

Wireless charging, YAAAAY wireless world we are coming!!!

Wireless earphones, BOOOOO noob quality!!!
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QUOTE(weretiger @ Apr 24 2017, 09:29 AM)
Sohai only buy those

Damn leceh mau charge still got long cable
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QUOTE(pekak07 @ Apr 24 2017, 09:30 AM)
couldn't agree more.
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post May 18 2017, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(big1 @ May 18 2017, 09:20 AM)
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lLearn a word a day!!

SARCASM.

Just in case u didn't spot it in my previous postings, given the effort you stalked through my history, anyway;

Yeah I agree the bluetooth technology is still miles away from decent wire cables, my point is the justification to their interest, and to construct the "wireless world" to their own interest.

If one should adore a wireless world, should he or she accepts everything wireless? No acceptance no adoption rate no money for R&D no improvements no mass adoption dies off. No?


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QUOTE(Zot @ May 18 2017, 09:03 AM)
The reason I support Android is because Apple profit is still gaining even though the sales was dropping
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QUOTE(pekak07 @ May 17 2017, 09:55 AM)
A little history about me, who I consider myself as one of those called - the tech geek. I ventured into this never ending smartphone game a couple of years back, where my first phone was the Blackberry Storm 2 (it was the first pressure sensitive screen in its own ways yo). And just to name a few phones I have possessed in recent history, just to sorta prove my credentials here - Iphone 5, Iphone 6s, LG Nexus 5, LG G6, LG V10, Samsung S6 Edge, Samsung S7 Edge, Samsung S8+, Huawei Nexus 6P, Google Pixel, HTC Cha Cha, HTC M7, HTC M8, HTC M9, Blackberry Bold, Blackberry Z10, Blackkberry Passport, Nokia N9, Nokia Lumia 800, Nokia Lumia 1020, Lenovo Z2 Pro, Sony Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia Z Ultra, Xperia Z1 Xperia Z3, Xperia Z5 Premium, Xiaomi Mi3, Xiaomi Mi4, Xiaomi Note, Xiaomi Note 2, Xiaomi Mi Mix, Motorola Droid Turbo, Moto X, Motorola Droid Maxx and of course a couple that I have missed out. An not just that, the accessories that I have invested in my phones are monstrous. Back then when tempered glass wasn't even a thing I have spent at least thousands trying out different brands around the world, your Mimo Spigen Imos bla bla bla. I even resorted to nano liquid screen protectors, only to hope to find the perfect smartphone.  Anyway, the story here is about the two giants - The Iphone 7+ and the Samsung Galaxy S8+.

With no argument, the S8+ beats the Iphone in all ways aesthetics, and tahts the reason it only took me a heartbeat to pre order this beauty. I'm not gonna talk specs and functions, reviewers around the world will favour the S8+ and no one will disagree, I won't. The S8+ is stunning. So why did I fall back to my, which I would love to call it, the trustworthy Iphone 7+?

18.5 to 9 Screen Ratio

From my experience with phones, first hands on experience that leads to how big the smartphone is, is the width of the phone. Sure Samsung would have done thousands of surveys and focus groups to come to the same conclusion. Small phone, big screen, small width. Tara. So what's the problem here? If samsung, or LG, has decided to maintain the 16 to 9 screen ratio with the width of the S8 there isn't enough marketing noise. It's gonna be another 5.2" smartphone with better body ratio. So, let's increase the height! Now we get infinity display, 84% screen to body ratio, 5.7" screen in a compact body unheard of! Kudos to Samsung it bloody works, paired with 2k super AMOLED screen up to 1000 nits in brightness is amazing feat, claps.

But the thing is, aesthetics over functionality. That is when I first tried the S8, only to realize despite its marketed 5.7" screen, the narrow width makes everything seems....Iphone 5 ish?? Most especially felt during typing. So I quickly got the bigger brother, the plus. Felt much better instantly. many will argue that the transition is here, is real, accept it. 4:3 to 16:9 now 18:9, fine, I'll use it for a month to get myself used to it!

I did not, sadly. Seriously the only experience I'm gonna miss leaving this screen ratio is my e-book reading experience. That's all. Videos are just not produced in that format yet, yeah crop to fit and lose the tops and bottoms, not cool. Most of the games are rendered in 16:9, yeah force the immersion only to find many games have misaligned issues, especially in the game menus. I'm not here to argue that you have to give time for devs and video makers to start adapting the new ratio. Yes it takes time but the problem is, are they, the masses out there, are they gonna adapt? Unless I see all manufacturers start jumping into the ratio, which I don't, we might see mass adoption. On a separate case, if apple decides to trail on this, we might see that happen. And I'm taking an intellectual guess here, this ratio isn't here to stay.

The almighty bezeless display

The first name most would call upon, as a leader to this revolution, the Mi MIX, or the less known Sharp Aquos. NO! Surprise surprise, it's actually SONY. Don't believe me? Check this lil  brother to the original Xperia Z, the Sony Xperia ZL. Was not heavily marketed beside his bigger brother, and guess the smartphone market back then wasn't aware of small bezels.

My argument is, are these actually practical? First of all, they are bloody fragile. with the panels so close to the frame, they are destined to crack upon impact. History proves it, and still is.

Hand gymnastics. Although the Mi Mix, or the S8+, is extremely gorgeous, I find myself having a hard time to navigate around the screen. I have very little room to grip at the bottom when I type. I have a hard time reaching for the pull down notification from the top, clear notifications, interact with notifications. I have a hard time playing games with little grip on the side (you hold your phone, but your thumbs are shrunk into an awkward position to interact with the controls - Fifa, Mobile Legend etc.).

The Operating System

It's official, the S8 packs the best of the best specs on earth. 10nm processor architecture, Bluetooth 5.1, UFS 2.1 bla bla bla. For a tech person, or a tech audience like LYN members, it means a bloody lot. It means that we feel appreciated when we know manufacturers dish out the best of the best. But to others it means crap. And to the ah lian and ah bengs they only care about screen size and mega pixels.

So you and your sweet S8+ is still probably in a romantic honey moon period, where you glance at here even when there is no notifications, or when the screen is off, to my knowledge some forumers even lick them, yes the S8 fetish. Well mine was a short vacation, honeymoon period all over after the first week. What matters to me next is the user experience. And heads up, the Apple ecosystem beats it flat flat flat.

It's not Samsung's, or Android's fault here, at least on their own. They both offer the best techs, software and hardware the world could ask for. But it's the marriage that's at fault here. I love the customization and the open ecosystem on Android. I used to customize every single detail I could possibly tweak, I own hundreds of widget packs, I browse deviantart and mycolorscreen for inspirations. I love the fact I could download torrent on my phone. I love the pirated APKs. I love the rooting and the kernel level tweaks. I love IFTTT. I love comparing SOT after knowing some guys out in XDA tweaks the CPU and GPU better than stock baked ones. I love trying out different roms. I love all that. I do also love - CONSISTENCY.

If anyone here is willing to debate that Android is more reliable, more consistent, and smoother than IOS, I'm sure you have not used one yet. Take the fanboy out of you and start dealing it like a real man. The integration in the Apple ecosystem is just better. The apps on the Appstore is just plain fluid. The apps are just more polished on IOS, even Google's own offering. I play games on Iphones with close to no frame drops. I don't care if devs optimize them better, I don't care if Samsung needs to power double the pixels, I only want a fluid experience, that's all that matters. And sadly, I experience micro stutters all around the S8+, heck it even loses out to the OP3T and the pixel. So can we conclude that Touchwiz is still culprit here?

Of course there are the minor considerations of future updates, continuity, the  hardware flaws (fingerprint misplacement), single bottom firing speakers etc. These I can compensate for I know no smartphone is perfect.

And for those reasons above, I'm back to an Iphone 7+.
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Err... OP3T really?
Well, hipster problem I see.
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post May 18 2017, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(firecracker @ May 18 2017, 08:49 AM)
i mention one word: ecosystem..u going crazy..i didnt use the word iphone or ipad etc..maybe the word ecosystem is beyond ur comprehension..i understand..i truly do...it's like giving a banana or a gold bar to a monkey...u will always pick banana over gold..

enjoy ur banana buddy brows.gif
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There u go.. laugh.gif

Another roti 0 lol.. stupid like a cow yet try to act like ï'm smarter than you yo... rclxs0.gif

I pity your nincompoop-ness, nvm have a great day since i dont think u will able to use those words in reality lol!






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QUOTE(tungfunglaw @ May 18 2017, 09:03 AM)
There u go..  laugh.gif

Another roti 0 lol.. stupid like a cow yet try to act like ï'm smarter than you yo...  rclxs0.gif

I pity your nincompoop-ness, nvm have a great day since i dont think u will able to use those words in reality lol!
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oh shit..using the word "nincompoop"...i mean how insecure are u? dont try to hard
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owh really ts???wah!!!!ok.
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QUOTE(x @ May 17 2017, 04:50 PM)
Lel.

No budget is it.

Ip5 sucks so i got my wife ip6s when it was out. Waiting for ip8 for my wife.

This is how you roll as ifag.

Not cover malu saying the phone good after 7 years.
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I just sell it niama for a 6 plus. My ads still at mudah. The ip5 just cracked, i sell it as it is, still selling fast.
kelvinlym
post May 19 2017, 10:15 AM

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Thank you TS, for all the dividends.

https://fortune.com/2017/05/18/apple-stock-...ividend-stocks/
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post May 20 2017, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(SugarBB @ May 17 2017, 04:54 PM)
I am lazy to read all your rubbish comments, its better to keep it short and save my time. loser is a loser always.
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I agree you give rubbish comment but why do I care? I agree you are a loser with an iPhone but that what we expect from an ifag. They are not so bright like you. I never doubted you when you say you are a loser.

Buddy fake care never expect a phone can turn you into a loser.
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post May 20 2017, 05:31 PM

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> TS start thread that "Ipong better than Android".
> Everyone in /k got triggered.

Well played.
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post Mar 5 2018, 09:21 AM

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IPX apa machiam skrang. TS compare.
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post Mar 5 2018, 09:27 AM

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Put it in point form at the end of the essay for tldr version.... Easier for
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i dont care la about all that
just operating system alone make me switch back to iphone
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stopped at S8+ ...lol ... if u know about good phones u know why ...

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You use what u like to use la, no need write grandma stories to say how u prefer ios because of this and that. Don't like it? Pay to change it!

I've used both and each of them have their own pros and cons. Both of them are racing against to the top, they will never be the same at the same time. Both ios and android are making their own ways to make sure they are slightly different and standout from the competitors (well, after that the losing one will try to copy and follow)

You can see this kind quick example of race against each other

Apple touch id - others to follow
Waterproof phone - Apple follow later
Apple ditch the earphone jack - Most other manufacturer tried to follow
Notched iphone X - Others started to follow
Wireless charging - Apple to follow

P/S: I worked in a big company where my company covers own gap from the competitors, so that we don't lose customers. Competitor come out with feature A, we do the similar thing wihtout triggering a patent lawsuit (basically works the same but with different methods)

This post has been edited by crayzee: Mar 5 2018, 09:41 AM
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Because TS is fooken ghey, perhaps?
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post Mar 5 2018, 09:39 AM

:3
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wa use so many phones. and must list them out. must have long epenor
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Write so long to justify your guilt ka?
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2018 still got fellas here triggered
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post Mar 5 2018, 09:56 AM

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18:9 is very ergonomic.
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post Mar 5 2018, 10:02 AM

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Why suddenly necro old thread?

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