Location supurb. If it develop by sime much better.

Wow... Current booking only need RM55.

For those who haven't purchase yet, allow me to share a few major systemic problems/issues with my property that I bought from OSK. It is a unit at Solstice @ Pangaea, Cyberjaya. It is important to understand that the issues I'm highlighting are systemic and not individual issues, such as workmanship quality in a particular unit or individual experience during certain moments when dealing with OSK personnel.

1. Inhuman layout and design - Duplex unit, 980sqft, 2+1 Bedroom Suite
The +1 bedroom was initially promised as an 'evolutionary' hideout room which was unsuspecting but once one steps inside, it will be impressive and smartly utilized/maximized as far as space utilization is concerned. It will also have gadgets and fixtures which are on-par with those in micro studios in high rise residential buildings in Hong Kong and Tokyo. The room was meant for domestic helpers/maid to stay with the family. If one were to compare with +1 rooms of other projects, be it high rise or landed, the +1 room would usually be just able to fit in a single bed with not much space to move around. Thus, that would be our benchmark.

In reality, the +1 room turned up to be an absolute nightmare. It was a bare empty space, with cement flooring and the ceiling height so low (since it was actually a space under the stairs), that one would not be able to stand up straight inside the room without hitting the head. Entry into the space was also awkward, as the door to the room is actually inside the bathroom. Just imagine the occupants of the other proper bedroom, going to the bathroom in the middle of the night. Would he/she need to evacuate the maid from the +1 room when he/she is doing the toilet so that the maid does not accidentally go out of the room and directly into the toilet. OSK had the guts to give a suggestion to install an external lock on the room door so that it can be locked from outside. Imagine doing so but the person using the toilet forgot to unlock the room door upon exiting the toilet. The door height to the room is outright inhumane. One would need to bow down to enter as it is only up to the chest level.

Attached is the floor layout plan with the room highlighted in yellow and also a photo of OSK Property CEO, Mr.Ong Ghee Bin visiting a unit back in 2018 after numerous complaints and escalation to his level. While he did visit with his entourage and promised to look into the issue, nothing has been done and we do not except anything major to be done, as it is a major structural/design issue. Only way to rectify it would be to knock down the entire space and redesign. Not just for one unit but all the duplex units.




2. Poor quality 'luxurious finishing' - bedframe for all the beds provided in this project, be it studio, duplex or 3 bedroom.
Bedframe is extremely shaky and can give way easily. After removing the mattress, owners found 2 fragile piece of plywood. Upon removing the plywood, owners we shocked to find that the plywood were only supported by 2 miserable long wooden sticks and from there, 4 pieces of wooden legs to the floor. OSK did not fix this up until today although it could have easily been fixed (compared to the +1 room issue). Nevertheless, owners had to fix it on their own.

Attached is a photo of a common solution done by owners, who have replaced the 2 long sticks with 4 legs with a metal brace support. I've sketched a photo to show the initial structure of the long stick and its legs.





3. Masterplan scrapped. Meaning of Pangaea is meaningless now as far as the project is concerned.
When they started to sell the first 2 phases back in 2012, Pangaea was supposed to be a self sustaining project which encompass residential buildings, SOHO suites, office buildings, hotel tower and a neighbourhood shopping mall. The masterplan was award winning as it featured a very futuristic neighbourhood shopping mall with a roof top garden, meant to be the focal point of the whole development. Back then, the land opposite Pangaea was still empty and vacant too (the space that Tamarind Square is currently sitting on).

Fast forward 8 years later, there is still no news of the so-called futuristic neighbourhood shopping mall. The land opposite, on the other hand, has been fully developed into a very stylish and retro commercial hub (Tamarind Square, do check it out!!!!). 3 phases have been completed, which is the 2 residential buildings and the SOHO suites, but the key drivers that is supposed to push the demand of the residential buildings, the office buildings, hotel tower and shopping mall are no where to be seen.





And this below is the current situation on-site. I've extended the photo to show the location of the office tower, hotel and also shopping mall in the original master plan.



Fair criticism? Any other buyers of other OSK projects (besides Ryan & Miho) here? Let me know your thoughts.

This post has been edited by DrPitchard: Apr 19 2020, 03:24 PM

i received offer to book at RM 55.

better don't trust this kind of offer...

According to da Shu; during their time, it was common for buyers to pay developer under table money for booking. Cash back and rebate in last few years is not unlike developer is paying buyer to buy.

For reasons why current property price is unlikely to rise like da Shu era.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: May 10 2020, 05:55 PM

i bit quite confident on this. hmm.

I'm also an OSK buyer, thought I had it bad but omg that +1..it could not even be used properly as a trash storage not to mention a +1

This post has been edited by LoTek: May 10 2020, 06:55 PM

Read this at glance tot of Ryan Mau Milo

i have heard a lot of existing buyers complaining about the OSK project in cyberjaya, overpromised when they launched but couldn't delivered.

Ryan and Miho launched for few years until now still got many unsold units, always see their booth at Atria.
meanwhile for the Atwater, which just situated next to Ryan & Miho almost 99% sold.

Which project did you buy? What went wrong with it?
Yeah, the +1 is really out of this world. Truly left speechless when I initially saw it.

You sure 99% Atwater sold?
If then Ryan & Miho reputation or their marketing strategy really tak boleh

Youcity. Workmanship was generally bad, my contractors had to patch up alot of stuff. they claimed to provide aircon points but actually is only an electric point. have to hack to conceal the gas and water. promised link bridges to 3rd phase never materialised, that was also promised with atria branded shopping mall, but mall is apparently? cancelled.

but all this is pretty minor compared to yours, man. even my dog would complain if he stay there.

Atria branded mall being cancelled is huge stuff. Same fate as Pangaea then, promised mall but nowhere to be seen. Such elements would boost the demand and value of the residential units significantly.

LOL. Normal humans and dog won't accept the +1 space at the duplex unit for sure. Maybe only acceptable to the OSK team of designers and management.

thanks for sharing man! coming in to check what property is this. noted on this dev.

This post has been edited by shinrei: May 11 2020, 02:01 AM

Go for GLC developers is the safest. These local ah pek developers cannot be trusted even on black and white. Talking about verbal chit chat, showrooms. Small niche developers are even worse, most are not following showroom, changing tile quality, vanity, with all sort of excuses like no stock this lar that lar. this is design lar. They will use all the loopholes to their advantages.

A lot of buyers just suck thumb and lose money quietly. 90% of the time if you buy a property from developer now, u will lose money upon VP.

A trick i learn on how to check a developer track records. Check on iproperty pricing after VP vs launch time. If subsale is lower than their SpA, then these developers are not bringing value to you.

that trick is not really a trick. dev can giv u massive discounts from spa price but you still made profits out of it.

btw which GLC to look for CBD projects? any examples which showcase good delivery & yields

spa price is effectively whim and fancy price, and yet many benchmark for subsale.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: May 12 2020, 12:42 PM

No matter what during mco period more than 50 units sold.

semua loan approved?