If you havent seen a place of 820sqft with 3 rooms maybe u shouldnt think of concept from developer. 2r2b is okay still got space. now this is cramming like mad, everyone need to be walking carefully not to crash into each other in the unit.

have you stayed in there for 6 months to 1 year?

people tend to compromise when there is little or no choice. Even in HK people live in 100sq space, with single bed, cook top and 'wardrobe'.

but when you are paying 760psf in prime PJ area....are you going to compromise like people in HK? of course 800sq you can put 3 beds or even 4 beds....I ever hear Plaza Garden Residency in Cyber...they can have 3 beds in 500sq.

Lol! Think you hit the spot on gen X and the preferred size 

But then, if the investment is to target z or millennials, then shouldn't be an issue.

every developer is playing with absolute quantum now (what is size and RM/sq feet  ). It's like an acceptable fact now.

So what it's RM750/sq feet and only 450 sq feet. Total only RM337K!!! BBB!!!

u guys forgot, they also absolutely love low downpayment or better yet with cashback rebates.
and style mesti ada. so must come with some built-ins or "freebies" such as heater/ac/etc

haha if that is the case then I guess it boils down the personal preferences. I just feel like they are cramping in 3 rooms for the sake of it. Then again, I'm not buying this project so maybe for those who will view their sales gallery apparently sometime in July will be able to see how its gonna be build and update at this.

I am just interested at this project simply because it is in the neighbourhood i live in for years when im studying + working. Still the road out there gonna be quite jammy when it is peak

So, this is by OSK.

Whats sifu's opinion on this? Location wise its perfect for appreciation regardless of quality/ or is it too much risk?

I hear you, and concur that the supply outstrips demand currently with so many projects coming to completion. At this point I'm just focusing on completed projects with developer units but given its location it would be an interesting opportunity.

Having said that, been hearing a lot of complains about OSK so that got me worried. Reading the comments in here and other developments they're in charge also doesn't help make up my mind whether to give this a serious look.

Thanks for the suggestions 

Read all the comments after I put RM3k booking fee. what should I do now?

For own stay. 1st time buying house den came across all the comment (99% are negative feedback). Shaking on my decision😔

Aaron kor dun simply made assumption lah...

Adverse comments are mainly from their past purchasers....unlike cyber thread.

Are you implying that past buyers need to buy this project bsru can comment?

I wonder how many of those ppl around....

High dense property have defects should be a norm as result of mass production. But handling the defects are the key point that differenciate the good and bad developers. Just wonder what’s the benefit or advantages of bearing PJ address.

Just out of curiosity, did you buy any properties in Malaysia? 

To many people in the industry, YXX that you quoted as “famous” is actually just so so only. And many so called “famous” developers are “famous” not because of their products’ quality but because of their “branding” and “packaging”. One can consider the houses they bought, how much % they are actually paying for the A&P?

IMO, for own stay in PJ is nothing more than the convenience & connectivity. In terms of investment, KL seems to have more demands to digest the supplies compare to PJ.

Ryan & miho or Atwater ? anyone here bought Ryan & miho ?

keke

ignore all white noises here...

can go see their latest masterpiece (pun intended) at Emira.

half half. Lol all beh song OSK...

Your reasoning is weird, if they does not want to renew, they will choose to sell it off instead of total loss for anyone interested on the condo to price in the renewal fees along.

Who will want a total loss after years of cash to buy a condo? Imagine you have any property who is expiring and you can renew the lease, you will reject and wait for total loss instead? Not logic to me!

There will probably be some owners who will sell their units after 20 years of staying there or probably before the remaining lease hits 60 years and pass that headache to the new buyer (if they can find one, that is).

I'm only aware of the PJ old town where the majority of the landed houses' lease are nearing expiry. Next-of-kin take possession of parents house after their passing only to find that only 20 years remaining in the lease. I wonder if the parents are not aware of this/forgot about it until their children have to bear this problem many years later.

Sounds like the gov't want to make it easier to acquire leasehold land if they don't allow you to renew it back to 99 years. But I do recall that the gov't can still acquire freehold land for their own development, but have to pay the owner the market price.

The joy of choosing and owning a property.

Seriously, I don't want to argue whether any policy changes or not as it is pointless which is why I can only use current practice for leasehold land as judgement.

If we really want to factor all assumption, who knows, maybe all freehold become leasehold also as government can change policy as you said. Who said this cannot be done? The law can even be passed to grab your land if it is needed by the government, who knows whether this is possible or not if we want to discuss all this possibilities.

By the way,this act or rules is on 1965, an act with the extension of leases for leasehold properties is governed under section 197 of the National Land Code (Act 56 of 1965) pertaining to the applications for approval of surrender of the whole of the land, as well as the land rules of the various states.

For the state of Selangor, the extension of lease is governed by the Selangor Land Rules 2003 and Selangor Quarry Rules 2003.

That is why I said this is related to political reason.

Really a deep thinking needed on this, anyway, so far we can see the option and even the worst consequences for leasehold on the discussion. Leasehold also have their market value, just like First Residence in Kepong, initial release price around 400-450k (Not sure whether lower as my friend buy at secondary market), but I believe just roughly 3-5 years, it is around 550-650k at peak for now.

Just thinking if all this leasehold condo tied to shopping complex, office tower, will you be in higher chances to renew or worst chance since the big developer might eat up your share of land also. Or maybe the value might be better than you stand alone, just thinking.

Leasehold usually in best position place which make them attractive.