eUT / POEMs / Phillip Mutual Berhad UT discussion, Coz' Fundsupermart not cheapo enuf'!
eUT / POEMs / Phillip Mutual Berhad UT discussion, Coz' Fundsupermart not cheapo enuf'!
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Aug 30 2018, 02:37 PM
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Aug 30 2018, 03:54 PM
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Aug 30 2018, 05:09 PM
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Aug 30 2018, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Aug 30 2018, 02:07 PM) oops, just realized that some of you did not catch my sarcasm w.r.t. IDS. Must be very jialat that why you need emphasize 3 times in 3 posts. HahaNice guy answer: According to my analysis using a multi-matrix algorithm styled computational pedagological approach, there has not been a BUY call with regards to IDS, Kopitiam / fish market style: T1U IDS. Kanasai, this fund is kowpehkowbu si peh chiak sai lau sai kanasai fund. Xuzen |
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Sep 1 2018, 11:53 AM
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Sep 1 2018, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(kart @ Sep 1 2018, 10:32 AM) Same return, as stated in the fact sheets. Bring back karts post to here for further disfussion.Phillip Master Islamic Cash Fund Fact Sheet https://www.eunittrust.com.my/pdf/Factsheet...06082018_fs.pdf Monthly Distribution Record for July 2018: 3.69% p.a Phillip Master Money Market Fund Fact Sheet https://www.eunittrust.com.my/pdf/Factsheet...00082018_fs.pdf Monthly Distribution Record for July 2018: 3.69% p.a So, I guess that we are still putting our faith in Phillip Master Money Market Fund, since this fund has longer track record. So kart, are you in this Islamic type? Same daily interest calculated and given if earlier uplift? |
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Sep 3 2018, 05:51 PM
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How does PMMMF derive its invested capital? Isn't it what I invest in and take out excluding the divdend payouts? In the system the invested capital is higher than my calculated invested capital. I found this strange as my unrealised profit should have been the equivalent to the dividend payouts I have received?
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Sep 9 2018, 11:04 PM
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PMMMF is now at 3.7%p.a!!!!
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Sep 10 2018, 11:45 AM
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most of my funds are in red. ranging from -2% to -10%.
I plan to cut loss afew to invest into a business. is that a wise idea? rather than take up another personal loan to start the business. my only fund in green is TA global tech |
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Sep 10 2018, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(Jitty @ Sep 10 2018, 11:45 AM) most of my funds are in red. ranging from -2% to -10%. My opinion, I think you should, personal loans are not worth it, better not to use borrowed money to start a business, unless it's something like ASB loan with a higher (guaranteed, sort of) return then yes.I plan to cut loss afew to invest into a business. is that a wise idea? rather than take up another personal loan to start the business. my only fund in green is TA global tech |
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Sep 10 2018, 11:55 AM
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Sep 10 2018, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(Jitty @ Sep 10 2018, 11:45 AM) most of my funds are in red. ranging from -2% to -10%. Know why is the market red. That's why is all about timing. I am still in the green. Right now is a good time to buy if you want. Want to wait for it to drop further to buy also good idea. This is a global event as money is flowing out from countries into US as US is seen as attractive and safe now. Don't understand. Let me give you an eg. FD in Malaysia offering say 2.5% vs 2% in US? Which will you put in? Majority will put in US. I plan to cut loss afew to invest into a business. is that a wise idea? rather than take up another personal loan to start the business. my only fund in green is TA global tech Buying when market is in the green is a very foolish thing to do. Is what majority of retail investors will do. That's why majority of the people loss money when come to investing If you cannot tahan losses best to look at safe thing like FD, Amanah saham fixed price and EPF. Stocks/unit trust will not be suitable for you. How sure are your business profit > loan interest? What happen if business rugi? Cut loss and continue paying loan? This post has been edited by Ramjade: Sep 10 2018, 12:13 PM |
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Sep 10 2018, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 10 2018, 11:58 AM) Know why is the market red. That's why is all about timing. I am still in the green. Right now is a good time to buy if you want. Want to wait for it to drop further to buy also good idea. This is a global event as money is flowing out from countries into US as US is seen as attractive and safe now. Don't understand. Let me give you an eg. FD in Malaysia offering say 2.5% vs 2% in US? Which will you put in? Majority will put in US. Thanks Ramjade for the advice. Buying when market is in the green is a very foolish thing to do. Is what majority of retail investors will do. That's why majority of the people loss money when come to investing If you cannot tahan losses best to look at safe thing like FD, Amanah saham fixed price and EPF. Stocks/unit trust will not be suitable for you. How sure are your business profit > loan interest? What happen if business rugi? Cut loss and continue paying loan? Will think further on starting my business with partners. You are right, seem like a quite foolish choice to start business with a personal loan. |
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Sep 10 2018, 12:14 PM
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Sep 10 2018, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(Jitty @ Sep 10 2018, 12:14 PM) Thanks Ramjade for the advice. Of course sometimes cutting loss is good as you can buy cheaper. That's if it drop more. Will think further on starting my business with partners. You are right, seem like a quite foolish choice to start business with a personal loan. QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Sep 10 2018, 12:14 PM) Yes even better. 1) higher returns 2) same day liquidity if you use maybank and withdraw before cut off time compare to FSM where need to wait like for 1 day. If you use FSM MMF, you withdraw after cut off time, need to wait 2 days for money to come in |
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Sep 10 2018, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 10 2018, 11:58 AM) Know why is the market red. That's why is all about timing. I am still in the green. Right now is a good time to buy if you want. Want to wait for it to drop further to buy also good idea. This is a global event as money is flowing out from countries into US as US is seen as attractive and safe now. Don't understand. Let me give you an eg. FD in Malaysia offering say 2.5% vs 2% in US? Which will you put in? Majority will put in US. Hey Ramjade, you dont invest in anything local? REITS, Unit Trusts, Shares?Buying when market is in the green is a very foolish thing to do. Is what majority of retail investors will do. That's why majority of the people loss money when come to investing If you cannot tahan losses best to look at safe thing like FD, Amanah saham fixed price and EPF. Stocks/unit trust will not be suitable for you. How sure are your business profit > loan interest? What happen if business rugi? Cut loss and continue paying loan? |
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Sep 10 2018, 12:27 PM
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Sep 10 2018, 12:29 PM
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Sep 10 2018, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(SwarmTroll @ Sep 10 2018, 12:26 PM) Why? Simple. Do you believe in the power of the RM? Tell why should I invest in Malaysian REITs giving me mere 5% dividend when amanah saham fixed price is giving me risk free min 6%. If you don't want to talk about amanah saham, let's compare Malaysian reit vs Singapore reits or Hong Kong reits. I can get higher dividends when I invest in those market, so why should I pick Malaysian REITs which is giving me mere 5% and below? Why I don't invest unit trust in Malaysia? Why should I invest in Malaysian unit trust and pay service charge of 1.5%-1.75% (depending on which platform you are using) when I can buy unit trust for free any time I want? Besides that, I can get same % of returns overseas or more vs I invest via unit trust from malaysia. So again why should I pay extra charges? Let's not mention selection of fund overseas is more diverse + better quality vs what's offer by FSM MY and eUT MT So tell me again why should I bother with Malaysian investment when overseas stuff can make my money work harder? To add icing to the cake, with fintech help, I am able send money overseas via money changer rates. Saving more money vs compare to using local banks. This post has been edited by Ramjade: Sep 10 2018, 12:43 PM |
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Sep 10 2018, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 10 2018, 12:41 PM) Why? Simple. Do you believe in the power of the RM? I have just started investing not too long ago and have been putting my capital mostly in amanah saham and PMMMF (parking here instead of savings account). Was thinking to diversify and try out other things soon, ETFs, REITS, etc.Tell why should I invest in Malaysian REITs giving me mere 5% dividend when amanah saham fixed price is giving me risk free min 6%. If you don't want to talk about amanah saham, let's compare Malaysian reit vs Singapore reits or Hong Kong reits. I can get higher dividends when I invest in those market, so why should I pick Malaysian REITs which is giving me mere 5% and below? Why I don't invest unit trust in Malaysia? Why should I invest in Malaysian unit trust and pay service charge of 1.5%-1.75% (depending on which platform you are using) when I can buy unit trust for free any time I want? Besides that, I can get same % of returns overseas or more vs I invest via unit trust from malaysia. So again why should I pay extra charges? Let's not mention selection of fund overseas is more diverse + better quality vs what's offer by FSM MY and eUT MT So tell me again why should I bother with Malaysian investment when overseas stuff can make my money work harder? To add icing to the cake, with fintech help, I am able send money overseas via money changer rates. Saving more money vs compare to using local banks. I would need a large or sizable capital to start a foreign investment no? |
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