even if it's programming, the codes & language may not be the same, but the idea is similar. there should be a general guideline, then a detailed guideline based on the system. don't tell me if i teach you how to eat using a tea spoon, you won't know how to eat with a soup spoon because they are different?

and there is a reason why companies pushing for gold standards, so their system can be easily migrated or used for expansion.

no wonder u still kuli.

if they surfed illegal website like porn, no excuse. but gaming, everyone does it.

must have a reason. maybe they weren't given any tasks to do? won't you surf facebook or post in /k too?

then u have writing problem since you wrote you found out they can't differentiate company products after 5 MONTHS.

and u really full of urself.

ur superior probably vomit blood when reading ur reports.

26 years old Intern, Segi Grad.
First impression was she was pretty smart and intelligent, had lots of certs and CGPA was pretty decent.
But the red flag was that she left several courses unfinished and switched over to another.
Head of HR decided to hire her anyway.
I left by the time she came in, but I heard from my ex colleagues that her true colors came out after she became an intern.
Wearing spaghetti straps (covered with cardigan) to a formal dress code office, using the patients' room to sleep, changing her top in front of everyone.
One day, it seems she had enough and decided to throw in her resignation letter and never turned up.
The head had to call her back in to office for her to show her face.
Eventually they decided they didn't want her too, so they fired her.

coz ur a product of a failed education system.

and u expect others to be different.

if i were you, i would not wait until 5 months. by 3rd month you should be able to tell who can make it and who can't, who has the heart to work & learn & who don't. you don't keep those you know are hopeless for another 3 months before you fire them, or worse continue keeping them.

i can say you don't really have the power to make the call.

and you don't really care since it's not ur money & company.

i mean what is the point of keeping useless staffs for more than 3 months? unless they have special cable or connection that may be worth the trouble.

If they got no task to do they should ask for more work
It shows that they are proactive

at the beginning, it's better to ask straight away when facing trouble instead of sitting there starring at the monitor trying to figure out what went wrong for a simple problem.

if after few times they still do that then you can complain and try to teach them how to think.

just like small kid, if he don't know something, he will straight ask why right? after few times, he would start to get a grip on it.

you were once a noob urself, remember that.

Hospital?

Nope. Pharma firm.

ur discrediting them that they may have requested tasks but maybe ignored by their lead and with no working experience & social experience they were afraid to approach their manager as it would bring trouble to their lead which in turn set trouble among themselves?

if u are the manager, you should keep at least a weekly update from the lead and from the interns, not just sit there and assume they are alright like Tom Cruise in Top Gun.

if no tasks were given to interns u should be able to tell by shooting few simple questions, then you call the lead in and ask him to explain why the interns aren't improving.

i can tell you most leads aren't interested in training interns because they aren't part of the fulltime team and they know they will most likely leave after finishing their internship and they know in such short time it's hard to train them to be actually helpful, so they are deadweight, might as well let them rot and focus on own work.

if the lead is Indian Expat, expect even worse.

let's see

fire within hours on first day

come work lembik lembik then eat ular. it just 2 hour before lunch. then after lunch come in late 1 hour. i terus fire him.

got several fired as same reason as TS story,

got few working lembik lembik then suka suka grandma die grandpa die,auntie die, sick la, fake mc, printing fake mc, print fake doctor letter, freaking lot excuse. fired within 1 months

got few caught at outside while lepak somewhere while i travel around doing work.

got 1 guy even fake doctor stamp&signature letter, which the doctor is my fren uncle clinic.

mc leave 2 days between 1st week, the doc tell me that my worker fake sick when i go take meds

come first few days then missing

come first day then steal stuff then go missing

It s about the sense of responsibility, attitude and maturity level... Its common for 21 yrs old to give fk care knowingly they themself as an intern. Literally a 21 yr old and fresh junior grad have same intellect level to carry out job, difference is the factors above. Heck even a 26 27 yr old hop to a new job know zero, he will assume more responsibility and be more serious than an intern in learning.

thanks for being a grammar nazi , so winning a internet argument make you feel superior ???


you drop so low by start calling people names ????
maybe your so high and mighty with power to do what you want

just let me remind you , karma a B!TCH
what goes around comes around, watch for it dude

and you didn't mention, intern is a must for some to complete their degree, they might not be interested to work as an employee, or interested in the field they study at all. which explains why they ular & don't have any responsibilities.

but you, as their guide, should figure out who is really interested in learning & working, and who doesn't. then don't spend so much time on those that clearly aren't interested. but you should try to get them interested 1st. if you already assume, u just let them rot, ur not doing any good either.

i called u a product of a failed education system, how can that be insulting? we all are. just whether we let the failed education shape our mind or not makes the difference.

admit it, our education is a failed system.

that is why you are complaining about intern & fresh grad qualities. have you ever reflected upon urself about it? ur not a kid, take up some responsibility for the education that has gotten from bad during ur times to rotten now. put u in their shoes, would you have acted in the same way under the education system they were brought up with?

i've been criticized way more than you just on the internet alone. if i find it reasonable, i accept it no big deal. also when people criticize u, whether or not they are right or wrong, it also gives information on why they do so, maybe because you couldn't express urself clearly on ur typings that people misunderstood what you're trying to say??? for example.

if u really wanted to clarify that you did not only review them after 5 months, just clarify, no need to point at me and question DID I SAY THAT. clearly you did not make urself clear enough.

and i apologize for the ur superior will vomit blood when they see ur report. that's just based on how muddy ur narration about ur experience was. i'm sayin ur superior probably have lots of question when they read ur report if you typed ur report the same way you tried to tell us ur scenarios.

i know u r successful in ur career and take pride in what you do, but sometimes, sit back and think if you've done absolutely everything correct, or was there something you could have done better?

clearly, letting interns stay for more than 6 months knowing they aren't learning anything, is unacceptable. unless they have special connection that may benefit the company.

what if someone can do work and play games on occasion?

if solitaire or those puzzle games can la..starcraft and do work? Starcraft alone fill up ur screen d

Lol why everyone so serious during internship?
During my internship my supervisor doesn't even care if i do things wrongly because he said i'm still learning and that's the purpose of internship. To learn not to work

Those who are thinking that intern should know everything have the same mentality as chinaman/haji bakhil business atas row kedai

Sekian.

Especially foreign universities.

His burger stall earning him more than your own job