Ah...
Okok..
Then.. Don't we have to change the coolant?
I'll ask the SC..
Thanks man..

Lol.
I oso didn't read the manual fully...
Actually, not much even..
Hahaha haha.

And don't forget the atf to change also..
Not just engine oil..
Mabbe at 20 to 30k km range..
Gearbox is the next most expensive component in the car if bought new..

No it shouldn't but the SA won't get a commission from the bank.. Lol

gone in 30 seconds...
better than nicholas cage's 60 seconds...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue...nnel=CPnetwork3

This post has been edited by jtan.pdr: Jul 15 2018, 02:44 PM

ya man..
perodua dont make their own transmission, most car manufacturer dont...
they usually sub-contract it out to companies like getrac, aisin, zf, etcetera..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Auto...smission_makers

so, they usually send gearbox with TCU as a complete package, rather than piggy-back on the ECU.

actually, my car skidded at the smartag toll booth, just before the toll gate...
was during rain and the ground was wet...
hear and feel the abs going off like machine gun....

scared the shit outta me....

using bridgestone tires.

need to wear adult pampers for the moment...
hehehhee

this vid below show the danger of the stripes when wet...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INqUrzcKSIM...annel=JustinTan
sorry, the vid is small and from a dashcam (not mine)

a friend of mine wrote this, (he's an awesome driver from alfa romeo days to now, bmw m3)


What went wrong?

He brakes mid corner to scrub speed cos presumably he's going too fast. Possibly shitty tires, too.

Oh Shit Moment #1 - Braking unloads the rear, causing the rear tires to come around. But it's still saveable at this point.

Instinctively, the driver swings the steering to the opposite side, steering into the spin. Applying some 'oppo-lock' so to speak.

Oh Shit Moment #2 - But the critical mistake is that the driver stays on the brakes, maybe brakes even more. This causes the weight to shift forward even more, further reducing rear grip, AND adding front grip. (Physics and shit)

With more front grip, the front wheels bite suddenly. Lo and behold, with opposite lock applied, the front wheels are now pointed at the drain. So, into the drain the car goes.

This is called a 'tank slapper'.

What the driver should have done:

1. Drive slow when it's wet!
2. If your rear end starts to spin, apply opposite lock, steer into the spin, but DO NOT brake.
3. Apply more power (floor it!) to shift weight to the rear wheels, thereby adding rear grip, and steer out of the spin.
4. Once you feel rear end grip return (the car feels like it's hooked up) then slow down in a controlled manner.

Above applies for FWD cars only!

Whatever it is, slow down when it rains and never stinge on tires.

This post has been edited by jtan.pdr: Jul 19 2018, 01:38 PM

U tube give warning for posting video like this??
Really??
Why?

dont think so man...

ESC would have helped. (thats why i was contemplating the advance, but not the start/stop function)

what happened was the late braking into the corner, where the weight was loading the front and the rear had less weight and thus less grip.. the slippery yellow strips started the loss of grip which then dominoed to what happened..
For FWD cars, braking must be done before entering the corner, then mid corner, apply power to power out of the corner and continue boosting in the straights... u use the FWD and power to PULL u out of the corner..
RWD cannot power out mid turn or they risk oversteer. Thats the Strength of FWD cars..
go watch the WTC, world touring car, races, see the difference between BMW(RWD) and Chevys, Seat, (FWD cars)

UR bars keep the car from warping during corner loading, meaning, the car maintains its rigidity while the suspension and tires flex, and adds less uncertainty to the car's handling, thus creating a more stable platform and boosting driver confidence.

Tires also play a big part but in the end, u cant beat the law of physics.

Driving too fast was the main cause of the incident, but it all started from impatience..

i brought my kids to the go cart track in sepang to get them to experience car dynamics, where they can try late braking, skidding, etc, safely..
and its fun too..

watch this:
jackie stewart.
few times F1 champion, 9 times runner up,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZw7ZnxWKjs...=SteveGharibian

hope this helps

This post has been edited by jtan.pdr: Jul 19 2018, 10:25 PM

oo i c....
actually i make my kids watch these kind of vids... hahahahah

hopefully they be more careful when driving...

some people so sensitive la... lol

aiya... i replied ur message... hmmmm...
sorry ya...


This post has been edited by jtan.pdr: Jul 19 2018, 09:39 PM

Bezza is a car that doesn't communicate its intentions well or what's happening on the front wheels thru the steering wheel much at all.. Steering feels dead..
Turns don't feel crisp (a Toyota thing except Supra and above)
But the turn radius is fantastic!
A symptom of electric assistance steering.
But that is the car..
Its top heavy, soft suspension, high profile tires, lazy gearbox (auto) and lazy engine...
All adds up to not fun car to drive..

But add extra sound insulation and (better seats), and the car becomes a comfy cruiser.. Good for people who think a lot..

But a fun car in terms of handling and performance ... Not so much la..

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Gotta manage our expectations.
But it doesn't mean we can't get from A to B quickly.. Just not as quick as a 3.0 beemer.
Figure out the limits of the car by not getting into accidents, and you're good to go.
Even a Lada will do that..
Find fun in other things.. Like friends riding along, conversations with family (or not, what ever..), things to do along the way (makan or sightseeing)..
That to me... Is fun..ya ya.. I'm an old man..
Hahhahahahaha

But what I like comparing bezza to saga or persona is the torque converter..

And I've had enuf of proton..
So that's the take from a biased person..
Hahhahahaha

lol

human nature la..

hi, may i know whats your rpm at 100 km/h?
thanks in advance

Thanks for the info!
So I guess it'll reach about 3500 rpm at 120 kmh?

Actually not too bad... I thot it would be worse..
My bad..

This post has been edited by jtan.pdr: Jul 22 2018, 09:41 AM

Yeah.. Different experts have different opinion or thoughts.
Hard to know which is which.
Even the manufacturers are not very informative about this gearbox issue..

But to step on the brakes for a long time makes the LED brake lights heat up and fail sooner.
Then to repair, must change the whole rear cluster..
That's pricey too..

No man..
Led is hot also..
Maybe not as hot as halogen or hid.
But still hot.
The cooler ones are very low wattage, like those on/off indicator.
Headlight and tail lights are much more powerful and produce a lot of heat!
Good led replacement bulbs have heat sink.
The problem is the the diode is attached to a circuit board and very hard to change and heat will damage the board.
So, the longer u press the brake pedal, the longer the led is on, the hotter it gets.

Other type of bulbs like halogen, are attached to power source via a lamp holder so, easy to change.
If the bezza fail light can last long then, by all means wonderful..

Anyesy, besides the tail lights, what is the longest lasting led bulb has lasted u guys?
Asking in general.
My replacement led bulbs never last more than a year..
Doesn't matter if they are Philips, osram, etc.. All burn out sometimes within a few months, and usage not even much per week.. Its a Philips.

Led leh..
Good boy is right.

Wah..
Who knows how to start a new thread?
This one reach 120 pages aledi..

i just saw a bezza minus a funtioning rear light cluster...
meaning no night and brake light... cluster still intact, no physical damage...
hmmmm....
dunno if perodua will warranty it..
need to down load pict from the dash cam... later lah...

but it goes to prove that the longer we depress the brake light, the hotter it gets.

https://www.ledsmagazine.com/articles/2005/...oduce-heat.html

This post has been edited by jtan.pdr: Jul 25 2018, 10:57 PM