I will put this.hahhahha..mild kokblock




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Looks like its gonna happen... Soon

https://nianticlabs.com/blog/thankyou040717/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com...are-coming/amp/

Few more issues .. while battling get kicked out with error msg. Worse part is if continue battle still can take down 2-3 moms. So effectively wasted potions and prestige points. Have to battle again.. but if first few mons are blissey n snorlax.. u get what I mean.. tiring...

I finally thought of the perfect and fair gym system!!
all pokemons will be arranged by their CP in a gym, like the current system.

In addition to gym prestige, they'll be given an internal prestige system, say 1000 to each pokemon in the gym. So, everytime the gym prestige is reduced and have to kick one pokemon out, the pokemon with the lowest prestige will go first!!

For example:
1) 50000 prestige gym was battled and lost 11000 prestige. All Pokemon had their battle. From 1000, each pokemon's prestige will be reduced by the number of second left in their timer during each battle.
- Blissey is toughest, so less time left, so its prestige reduces by little.
- double weaknesses pokemon, battles were left with more remaining time, so more prestige points are reduced.

2) say the opponent only battles the first 3 pokemons, all 3 pokemons' prestige will be reduced by its remaining seconds, while the rest of the 7 pokemons will be reduced by the average of the remaining time of these 3 battles.
In other words, if the gate keepers were weak, the rest will be weakened.

now I feel like writing my proposal to Niantic.

The main complaint about gyms currently are:

- Blardy gym errors
- Stagnation.. gyms nearby are high levelled and dominated by folks other than those living nearby who feels that they're entitled to hold it.
- Which most folks attributes to spoofers who don't have to physically go out feed mosquito to take those gyms.
- Gym variety... the nerdy ones wants Shuckle to be viable gym defender.

Your "perfect" system will just make gym situation worst Instead of the couple of Blisseys and a bunch of Ttars and D9 hiding under her skirt, you'll have have full blissey gyms everywhere then.

By design, gyms are ALREADY easier to take down then to build up.

Of course there's the earlier bubblestrat and now gastlystrat but when there's enough ppl playing, it wouldn't matter.

In my gym run this morning... while taking down the first Lvl 7 blue gym, someone join in the fight, I put in my 3.1K blissey and proceed to take lvl 3 yellow gym under 1 minute away.

Halfway through, I saw that my red gym turned blue ... I put in my Blissey then went back to take the 1st gym again, took down the snorlax and blissey in record time... put in Blissey then I saw 2nd gym turned yellow.

Run there again... took the 2 defenders down... I saw battle animation on the first gym... quickly click shop... saw 20 coins... press.... then the display only showed 10 coins. Look at screen.... 1st gym down.... then I saw the fella walking up next to me to take gym 2.

IMO, its really simple for Niantic really (implementation is diff story)..

- Fix blardy gym errors
- Open more pokestops and spawns for rural folks which I believe theyre doing now.
- Get rid of spoofers.
- Attract more people to play again.

That's it.

This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: May 10 2017, 09:29 AM

TSOM that's kinda ok but there are a lot of dynamics and a formulae that needs to be incorporated.

sniper on the roof I agree with adding stops, adding gyms and fixing gym errors plus lag, improvements to prestiging, etc. But I have a problem with them addressing spoofing solely now when there is a huge influx of botting happening. If they focus solely on stopping spoofing, a lot of ppl have moved to create botted accs which is totally wiping out any possibility of players getting chance to get gym placement. On fb pogo my, u see loads of players even seasoned ones talking about it.

Bots are trickier.

I can somewhat understand why ppl spoof but I don't understand why ppl bot? Just for the sake of being arseholes?

But its also a double edged sword cos if Niantic really manages to totally eliminate botting, they will also end up killing off a huge portion of player base in countries that are used to having trackers... ex Japan, South Korea etc

And these are some of the countries that spends the most $$$ on IAP.

Both spoofer and botter are same.
I suspect big potion of Pokémon go trainers are in these 2 categories. Niantic cant and wouldn't take drastic action, cause it will affect their business.
Beside the obvious unfairness of the above, anyone using external tracker and hold multiple account also against their "fairness policy". And official botting device from Nintendo created for Pokémon go, the Pokémon go plus (I got 1, it is pretty easy to farm stardust with this, especially good during 6hr lure).
In the end, you play if you enjoy the game, else just stop.

Yeah.. Niantic said there's currently ~65million active players.

I suspect half or more of that are bots.

On the issue of external tracker, its Niantic's own messy start that necessitate external trackers and they can't expect folks whos used to play that way to just stop using them.

Instead of just fighting them, Niantic coul work with a select few for official access. That way, they'll have some level of control over whats being shown but most of all, it'll also cut off funding to the developers.. api hashing services.

kww that's why I said rather niantic focus on improvements, enhancement and new features first. By introducing new "some" security update and claim to stop spoofing but allowing widespread botting is not right.

sniper on the roof bot multiple accs, raise tl faster, collect more coins, then can sell. It's good money. We have to spend on iap, wait for double xp, double candy.

Disclaimer first, I'm more of a business person and know next to nothing technically beyond what I've read on the interweb. Please correct me where I'm wrong.

It used to be that everybody had more or less easy access to Niantic's server in the early days until they took it seriously and started changing the API every once a while.

Remember all the hoohah... poketracker (If recall) quitting... all those open letters to Niantic?

Apparently cracking the API all the time became such a chore (25 days full time for 4 person) that access became paid service with people working full time...

But where there's demand, there's gonna be supply.

Trackers need a craploads of bots and while I can't confirm how much its true, I recall the operator of the local tracker in Taipei saying it cost upwards of TWD50K to operate per day... so there's good amount of money going towards API hashing service.

So if Professor Willow himself come out with a new tracker, players won't really need 3rd party trackers (as many players have stated during the initial crackdown) at the first place.

Individual botters either pay or get free keys from folks that subscribes in bulk from advertising revenue but nevertheless, trackers should be by far the largest source of revenue.

Without them, there's not gonna be much reward nor motivation for folks to sweat it out to keep up with Niantic.

This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: May 10 2017, 04:20 PM

Ya. End of the day is all dollar and cent. Niantic and tracker are about advertising, & event money. Botter & spoofer want to sell trainer accounts. Trainers want coins.
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Wondering what is the limit per species in the gym rework.

Also, no more lvl 10 all Blissey gym

This post has been edited by hybridkit: May 10 2017, 05:26 PM

sniper on the roof kww
I have no doubt on the business side of things. But what I don't appreciate is saying you are curbing spoofing which is a smaller problem compared to botting towards gym stagnation that ppl are cribbing about. I continue to play the way I play. In fact I have to park my Mon in high spoofer / botter territory. Lol...


Lol.. that's interesting.
I wonder whether any of us will still get chance to put those powered up mons in gyms. Imagine max 3 same species; you have to challenge loads of ppl to place mons. Plus I doubt legit players will build up gyms to level 10 if they only can get first 3 spots. Anyhow, let's wait n see what's the changes that will be introduced.

Botting is a problem of course.

What I meant is that instead of just trying to curb botting using technical means, Niantic should/could kill it at the source...

Which is very simply target the funding.

No funds = no API cracking = botters have no access.

Hmmm....

1) Blissey
2) Snorlax
3) Tyranitar
4) Dragonite
5) Rhydon
6) Gyarados
7) Vaporeon

Looks like we need to power up something else besides the above.

yes, then it makes perfect sense to power up blissey.

my blissey is 29xx CP but still stay lowest in a lvl 10 gym ... cilaka!!

Too bad then. Niantic's introducing species limitation per gym

if got limit... then the best of each =

water = vaporeon & gyarados
fire = flareon, charizard, tyxxx
electric = jolteon
grass = exeg
poison = muk, venusaur
psychics = exeg, alakazam, espeon
dragon = D9
flying = D9, charizard, gyarados
metal = steelix
ghost = gengar
normal = blissey, snorlax
fairy = clefable, wigglytuff
ice = Lapras
ground = rhydon
rock = rhydon, tyranitar
dark = tyranitar
fighting = machamp
bug = pinsir, scizor

With species limitation, dunno we got chance to park blissey or not. Lol.. Your side gyms active or not?

Like that need quadruple stardust to boost other mons. Been focusing on high cp for gym placement. Now have to re prioritise other mons. Lol....