Kebanyakan pemandu Uber dan Grab golongan yang diberhentikan majikan lama, graduan universiti sementara mahu mendapatkan pekerjaan, pelajar univerisiti dan pesara.
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PETALING JAYA: Rata-rata pemandu syarikat perkhidmatan perkongsian kenderaan Uber dan Grab membantah pengenaan cukai ke atas mereka, kerana sebahagian besarnya bekerja kerana terdesak atau untuk sementara.

Walaupun iklan menguar-uarkan skim perkongsian ini sebagai peluang pendapatan sampingan yang lumayan, seorang pemandu Uber berkata pendapatan kebanyakan pemandu Uber dan Grab sekadar “cukup-cukup makan” – selepas ditolak kos penyelenggaran, minyak, tol dan hutang bulanan kenderaan.
Malah, syarikat juga mengenakan caj komisen 20% hingga 25%.

“Berapa banyak lagi yang tinggal untuk kami,” kata Syed Rosli Jamalullail kepada FMT. “Kalau pemandu teksi tidak dikenakan cukai pendapatan kenapa pemandu Uber dan Grab hendak dikenakan?”

“Saya yakin pendapatan majoriti kami hanya RM4,000 ke bawah sahaja.”

Kelmarin, Ketua Pegawai Eksekutif Lembaga Hasil Dalam Negeri (LHDN) Datuk Sabin Samitah berkata pemandu perkhidmatan Uber dan Grab yang bekerja separuh masa tidak terkecuali daripada mengisytiharkan pendapatan masing-masing.

Ini kerana mereka tertakluk untuk dicukai jika memperoleh pendapatan daripada perkhidmatan itu selain sumber pendapatan tetap yang melebihi minimum RM30,000 setahun.

Semalam, LHDN berkata cukai pendapatan individu yang dikenakan ke atas pemandu Uber dan Grab adalah sama seperti cukai terhadap individu yang menjalankan perniagaan lain.

Namun begitu, pemandu Uber dan Grab boleh menuntut perbelanjaan seperti kos minyak, tol, promosi serta penyelenggaraan kenderaan dalam mengira pendapatan bersih.

Bagi Rosli, kerajaan perlu mengambil kira kebanyakan pemandu Uber dan Grab golongan yang diberhentikan majikan lama, atau graduan universiti sementara mahu mendapatkan pekerjaan, pelajar universiti dan pesara.

Menurut beliau, anggaran kasar bahagian pemandu cuma sekitar RM2,000 sebulan selepas ditolak kos selenggara (RM300), minyak (RM1,500), tol (RM200) dan hutang bulanan kenderaan (RM700).

“Kami cuma ingin mencari rezeki untuk keluarga, bukan untuk menjadi kaya raya pun,” katanya.

Seorang pemandu Grab, Affendi Yusof juga tidak bersetuju mereka dicukaikan.

“Di dalam keadaan ekonomi yang tidak menentu, maka adalah baik kerajaan tidak menindas golongan rakyat berpendapatan rendah dan sederhana,” katanya.

Sebaliknya, kerajaan disaran menaikkan cukai terhadap golongan kaya jika benar mahu menambah pendapatan cukai.

Mulai tahun lalu, kerajaan memperkenalkan banjaran pendapatan cukai 26% untuk golongan yang meraih pendapatan antara RM600,001 hingga RM1 juta dan 28% untuk yang berpendapatan lebih daripada RM1 juta.

“Mana boleh! Kita lihat negara maju, cukai pendapatan mereka sekitar 40% hingga 60%,” katanya.

Manakala seorang lagi pemandu Grab, Mustafa Ahmad berkata golongan berpendapatan sederhana yang memandu Uber dan Grab terpinggir daripada program bantuan seperti Bantuan Rakyat 1Malaysia (BR1M).

“Tidak ramai yang merasainya terutama golongan sedarhana iaitu golongan yang paling terpinggir,” katanya.

Syarat kelayakan penerima BR1M 2017 adalah ketua ahli keluarga dengan pendapatan kasar bulanan isu rumah RM4,000 ke bawah, warga emas 60 tahun ke atas (RM4,000 ke bawah) dan bujang 21 tahun ke atas (RM2,000 ke bawah).

“Saya amat berharap agar kerajaan tidak mengenakan cukai kepada pemadu Uber dan Grab,” katanya.

Kementerian Kewangan 13 Ogos tahun lalu berkata pihaknya tidak bercadang mengenakan cukai ke atas pemandu Uber dan Grab, sebaliknya mengkaji sistem pencukaian ke atas platform perkhidmatan tersebut.

Ini disebabkan platform aplikasi Uber dan Grab berupaya mengaut keuntungan berjuta ringgit hasil operasi mereka, kata Menteri Kewangan II Datuk Johari Abdul Ghani.
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...a-pemandu-uber/

pi mai pi mai tang tu

uber/grab = local taxi

Cukur masih aman

I don't understand


Isn't it anyone with income should declare?

Got one type never declare before. You know la.

Padan muka, snatch taxi rice bowl, so happy/arrogant boast have income of few thousand through driving Uber or Grab, now please declare it and pay

This post has been edited by ironmaid89: Apr 1 2017, 10:58 AM

if their income never exceed 2.5k..what are they afraid of?
if their income exceed 2.5k, thn pay tax like everybody else lah...what makes uber driver different than us office worker?

death and taxes .. choose one plz

Undilah bee end.

Diliwat tiap tiap hari

Taxi gangster no need pay tax?

taxi pay taxes..
and now.. uber/grab/lyft drivers also need to pay taxes...

Well, whats written expenses above is no different than those that work in office. We no need pay car installment? No need service car?

Its the same la

You sure?? Or the taxi companies?

apara... LHDN sudah cakap. 30k & above annually baru kena tax

if u r doing less than rm2,500 a month then apa mau worry

Once kena, be prepared to pay 10 times the fine for taxes they think you miss.

Need to pay must pay lor.

There's one problem income 3k tax -own money for gasoline and maintanence

But never declare also ppl never know

This post has been edited by stupiak07: Apr 1 2017, 11:11 AM

2k after all that should be alot no?

if they don't register as a business, they cannot deduct expenses incurred, and will have to declare the entire sum they receive as income...should not be difficult to determine, as it will all be with uber/grad database...

so they will need to register as a business, and then then can deduct legitimate expenses associated with the business...

welcome to the real world....

Technically they can deduct car service, oil as expenses. But LHDN will need them to divide that expense between business and regular use.
eg. petrol RM 50 = 30 (personal) + 20 (business). Only business part is deductible...
of course car installment cant be use as expenses Lel...

yea.. both taxi driver and taxi companies pay tax. At least that is what the law requires..
In malaysia, enforcement is another thing all together.. Lel

If you got document to back you up. But even that a lot people didnt declare their side income. A sundry shop owner got fined rm 30k and another rm 20k for not able to produce documents. They dont have a system in their shop to tabulate the sales report.

if your total taxable income is less than rm3500, you will not need to pay any taxes as it's below threshold...but still need to declare....

Toll is paid by riders, why they even want to count it as expenses?

Grab drivers even told me the incentives they get can cover both petrol and maintenance. Apa lagi mereka mau?

Obviously everyone want more money for themselves.

delcare income is a must for everyone. when i used to earn about 4k, i never need to pay tax because of the rebates. probably most of you guys never done income tax before.

either the driver or the company, someone must pay...

Bodoh.

This

i think every driver should register as a business owner so that the petrol and other expenses can be deducted to get nett income...takan u pay taxes by gross income ..sohai meh

Stop drive uber. Sell Nasi lemak, laksa, fried chicken, hotdog, burger.

suka show off. now eat this

ada untung tak mau bayar tax? , pergi la!

Taxi also need to do declare &register also, since it's not fair for other.

Ok wat like this.

Bigger question here is Uber/Grab paying their side of taxes. IIRC, they don't collect/deduct GST on their final bill.

And based on the above article, LHDN is suddenly realizing that they are not collecting as much as previous years, but they are oblivious to the fact that more and more people are being laid off and are jobless. So they are trying to figure out what are people doing for income and this would have been one of the highlights.

Bugima pay lah if you earn more 30k pet annum

Bodoh punye orang, just declare lar efiling. If tak kena means x kena.

If kena, then bayarlar.

Macam lar others people pay income tax tu orang kaya.

Aku pon cukup cukup makan je tapi income tax more than 5 digits.

How to separate uber grab use and personal use? Divide 50:50?

No wander LHDN are interested in UBER and GRAB now

Maybe royal customs next for GST

So called become entrepreneur drive uber konon

Come to tax nak tongkat

suka yer buat grab & uber... now tax datang baru tau the reality..

Their turnover is unlikely more than half million, so no need register for gst...

be fair la. uber drivers already have edge over taxi drivers. now dun even wan to pay tax? what else? give u free pr1ma house mau?

the logical way will be to -20% off the income from uber as maintenance fee, then the rest will be chargeable income.

stupid uber / grab drivers. wanna earn money but dont want to pay tax.

That is tricky.... Normally LHDN will apportion a percentage, say a quarter to half, depending on the nature of the business....

I'm not sure if that is even possible as they are subject to personal income tax, not business income tax which has such reliefs.

I am saying if they are officially registered as a business....If not, then of course no vehicle relief allowed...

If they register as an enterprise, is sole proprietorship usually, then although they still declare as personal income tax, legitimate expenses related to the business are allowed....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Apr 1 2017, 12:31 PM

income tax sure need to declare lah. anyway uber is self employed so fuel cost and maintenance cost should be deductible. so what's the issue lah.

Oni RM2k already sked kena tax. Declare yes, pay depend on income u get lor but RM2k...

Lhdn officers will knock on ur door soon

I gov servant but keja gred taraf kuli also declare income tax.

Just do the efiling & declare.
If kena pay, then pay.
If not, then good la

Must pay tax la?

below 4000
xnak LHDN

KEK

dari brim dia datang kepada LHDN dia kembali

This post has been edited by HolySatan: Apr 1 2017, 02:01 PM

semua mau jadi golongan plotek sekarang....semua mau tongkat

LMAO now you understand the feelings of honest taxi drivers.

Lol why now grab and Uber drivers start protek protek liao

i think what they arguing about is that there is no deduction consideration for the cost.

uber driver cost: maintenance, car fuel, car loan (arguable), and etc.

so for example, they make 50k per annum as income.. will kena tax..but in reality, their income is rm50k-fuel-maintenance-etc= taxable income

So what is the difference with people working in office? To go to office and work, still need to spend for transport (petrol, parking, tng etc).

says who?

since LHDN already tell them to file under Borang B, they are allowed to claim expenses incurred such as petrol, maintenance, hire purchase interest cost, commission paid to uber / grab, uniform (if you awnt to be "creative") and even phone bills (for uber / grab purposes)

above certain income ranges only
all declares then low-income earner die like that!
lol

This post has been edited by moolala: Apr 1 2017, 02:30 PM

precisely

Then set up a company and deduct direct expenses. Do what real businessmen do. Dont just call themselves own boss but dunno what a real boss do. Dont hide behind a veil and cry victimisation.

One word , lazy and don't want to file income tax. Even normal lorry driver also know to file them self.

why dont the bodo taxi drivers change their attitude then we go back and ride them

Hahahaha.. Now want picket or not..

True enough

I though uber driver make 10k a amonth

But many uber claim earn 4-5k a month

High earning wooo

I think majority of malaysians not getting 4k per month, if ppl like him need not to pay, country can pokai d.

Terima kasih BN

Terima kasih

nanti nak keluar epf umur 50 atau 55 lhdn check la. Kena potong nanti plus denda plus interest

lel, graduates but become a driver

idiot

In the text already stated how to legally to avoid pay the text.

LHDN already shared the method.

Kalau dah kaki tak pernah bayar cukai, and guna alasan untuk bayar cukai, memang duduk kat takuk yang sama ja lah.

Tax deductions?

This post has been edited by Coup De Grace: Apr 1 2017, 11:23 PM

understand properly.LHDN asking them declare. if their drclare let say rm500. cause do part time. can explain where the car u have now come from?

like my friend. ada uber part time. ada bisnes goreng pisang. uber dapat rm1k je because part time. dia ada myvi sebijik. tapi dia beli dah lama. masa kerja bank. ni semua LHDN mintak declare mati nak jawab.

atleast kena declare. bila declare LHDN akan tanya banyak soalan. kalau buat full time income more rm2500 people who part time more in trouble.....

aku dah cakap dah. kalau ada buat bisned dropship.uber.jual hp kat fb jangan ambil brim. bila ko dah serahkan 4 no ic terakhir di belakang mmg bye bye la

dah satu kerja nak kena keep resit minyak .

declare income untuk record apa takut

if below 4000 mana ada kana tax pun

pcb tax in payslip consider paid tax?

just declare whats income that can see the light
u can always say the car is now paid by parents due to jobless...many can buy car without even working(guarantor)

Want make money don't want pay income tax

Bodoh them. People with normal office job also pay tol, gas, monthly car installments, maintenance.

full time can 2k to 2.5k before expenses per week.. just pay the taxes dont bullshit

when u find some freedom, life will find a way to take it from you..

nak hidup senang? not a chance...Hahaha

this will have a bigger impact on those with job and doing uber/grab part time
declaring income from uber/grab will cause their total income either from non taxable to taxable or from lower to higher tax bracket

Normally will pay for the monthly pcb.. then hujung tahun declare after deduct all discount found out got lebihan bayar.. but u still paid some

Non-sense. All income derived from Malaysia have to pay.
But did they eligible to contribute SOCSO? Personally think that they shud cover under SOCSO too.

many uber and grab drivers claim can easily earn more than RM5k per month, so it's only fair that they be subjected to income tax just like every one else

kena liwat takpe... alternative lain semua ditutup. mampus skrang..

cara mereka memaksa orang yang lemah.

Cannot brain this driver. Unless kena GST or some crap, don't know la

LHDN cant tipu one la. they really interested with everything on your name. unlesss u guna kereta sewa.

gov sector that very silent and no case regarding bribe its LHDN. u wont see pecah amanah la. salah guna kuasa la. in LHDN...

Probably govt will want to force Uber to host their server locally so that govt can have visibility on how much drivers are paid. Then it's just a matter of taxing Uber, after which Uber can direct potong from the drivers..

It's 'income' tax, after all.

Everyone pays taxes , to be fair to all

they will concern but u can always find reason for it
as long as not 100% of your income is cannot see the light type

So Uber driver expect no tax on their income?
Even government officers has to pay tax.
If vote oppo no more income tax?

Shhh... Nanti ada orang sakit jubo

Itulah, you guys think gohmen approved Uber/Grab for no reason? Got snake behind the bush one.

u troll?
make sure u never get caught
or else they will fine u kaw2