hmm...two names come into mind (in the epl scene anyways), sadly both not of liverpool

1) Steve Bruce
2) Alan Shearer (the-not-decimated-by-injury-have-to-play-dirty-to-be-any-good version)

While ronaldo has a long way to go, the current man i would choose is also scholes.
as for ronaldo's ability to be a captain, i would say not yet.
but its not his time anyway, we will see in future if he fits being a captain

three names... i forgot to include Colin 'I-got-sold-an-outrageous-dummy-by-gazza' Hendry

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Added on September 29, 2007, 5:28 pm

Not the best advert for colin hendry
IIRC, it was him who ended up on his butt!

This post has been edited by madmoz: Sep 29 2007, 05:30 PM

I think the reason people will bring up the diving issue is because there are more than a few high profile ones. Just to set the record straight, if Gerrard dive in the last minute of the current league campaign, wins us the game, and secure the league title, I don't think anyone fo us would complain about it, although we do not condone it, like I believe many of you.

As Duke Red mentioned, diving is not the criteria of one is fit being a captain or not, but because theb player in question is him, the thread started should expect lots of posts commenting about his diving. As with Drogba who developed the reputation of being a diver before cleaning up his act last season. To put it as a comparison, I think the Drogba of last season has more chances of being a captian.

As someone mentioned too, I think C*** Ronaldo is not mature enough to be a captain, issues such as the World Cup when he got Rooney sent off, the allegedly dives, the allegedly shenigans off field etc etc. These are the reasons I think he is not fit to be a captain, maybe in the future after he cleaned up his act, but honestly, I reckon it's a bit hard for him. This is the reason why many would not consider him the best player in the world.

If he is to be made the captain, I canonly think of one reason, commercial purposes. how, I don't know but knowing a club like Man Utd who's light years ahead of many other clubs (sadly, that includes Liverpool) when it comes to commercialism, there would be ways to make the money. Just like how Owen was made vice captain of England.

My 2 cents.

The fact of the matter is, he has cleaned up his act, a lot. You rarely see him dive nowadays compared to when he 1st arrived here. As for game changing dives, can you actually think of one where he dived and it totally changed the game?? People claimed that he dived against Boro in the FA Cup replay last year but there was clearly contact there by Woodgate. See it from whatever angle you want, there's clearly contact. He has one booking for diving this season, against Everton and that was clearly not a dive.

And definitely gotta disagree with Drogba cleaning up his act last season. he had plenty of dives and playacting last season. The one that stick out in my mind is of course his cartoon show with Lehmann. I'm going to say I have several instances in my mind where Gerrard dived and changed the game for you but not going to bother to mention it cause I'm sure you'll find ways to refute it just as most Man United will find ways to refute some by our players. But yeah, Gerrard has had his fair share.

And he got Rooney sent off??? C'mon, irregardless of whether he was there or not, Wazza would have gotten sent off for that stamp on Carvalho. the referee said so, hell even Wazza doesn't even blame him for the sending off, he says so in his book. Off field shenanigans???? He has had only 1 high profile misbehaviour and that is of course the orgy. So unless you seem to follow him around I don't know where you get your stories from. And whatever he does off the field, I don't really give a damn as long as he performs when he's on the field really.

Dont really care whether people consider him the best player in the world or not. Fact of the matter is, many club would piss in their pants had he wanted to sign for them now(Liverpool included). Don't appreciate your name calling of him either. But it's you personal choice so I'm not going to bother. I think of Gerrard as a hypocritical bast**d after his 'only foreigners dive' and 'sadly Cristiano Ronaldo has a dark side in his game' rant only to then proceed on a spate of diving himself but I don't bother putting that tag in front of his name but like I said, what you do is your problem.

And man United have never chosen their captain based on commercialism haven't we?? All our captains in recent times has leadership qualities about them with the like of Keano, Cantona, Robbo, Schmeichel and Brucey comes to mind. if we were going to go for commercialism, Bekcham would have been made captain when he was here.

This post has been edited by air_mood: Oct 2 2007, 03:27 PM

Very good point, I think in the haste of replying to the thread, many would of course look at the reputation of the player, unfortunately. You are right in saying that you do choose your captain based on the leadership qualities, which basically means he is not there yet, therefore should never be the captain, unless he mature into the likes of the so called Man U legend that you're mentioned.

AS for the diving, foo field shenigans etc etc, I think that's for another thread.

emmmmmm....... giggs also can me 2nd captain for MU... see back 5 yrs before... who think he can be so leadership...

For C.ronaldo.. still too early to judge.. another beckham maybe.. whahaha... but MU sure wan england player to be their captain... C.ronaldo will be captain of Portugal...

Portugal ah? He need to wait for longer time. Luis Figo and the rest first.

He's more suited as a weapon, not as a captain.

His skills are much more needed than his leadership.

Captain ofr Portugal today against Azerbaijan. Had a cracking game as well today I was told.

he is still young van der sar is the suitable man to be captain

for me it's 50-50...

Another one is, he does not have the leadership look.

yeah i'm with u...

You see his face, is like some fella who likes to play, make fun around.

Yong and larnin', that lad.

huh...bukan ke figo dah nak bersara????

he said that before euro 2004, but he still features in world cup 2006

ya lor go retire and give C.Ronaldo number 7 officially...

This post has been edited by edvpc: Oct 15 2007, 04:46 PM

If even he did, Ronaldo still need to wait...