he cant be a captain..
for me, a captain should be the one who play at center, not at flank.
from center the captain can monitor his teammate clearly

You're one of a very special bunch then. I got a Pool supporting friend who is still very adamant that Gerrard never ever dives.Same person wanted to taunt me with Saha's overreaction last week. I throw Gerrard in his face and the fella is still adamant that Gerrard never ever dives.

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Added on September 29, 2007, 6:23 amNot really. Figo was a captain. Gary Neville, Giggsy and Beckham are some example of captain on the wings. Anyways, don't see him being a captain anytime soon, for Manchester United at least. He has already captained Portugal of course.

This post has been edited by air_mood: Sep 29 2007, 06:23 AM

Not YET. In the future,maybe. But i prefer Rooney to be MU's future captain.

pls keep tat gif till some1 created similar thread "

when is eboue did tat huh? i guess it must b 2 years back then.
while when is the last time ronaldo "tripped" by the opponent huh

captain should have be the role model of the team. dont think he can the one base on his prostitution act.
just my 2 cents

Not really, most of us admit that he dives, and should he continue this way he WILL develop a reputation for being a diver, as is the case with Drogba and C.Ronaldo.

A captain is a leader in a team.
A person with GOOD qualities and is well respected by his team.

A captain/leader is also a role model.
Certainly diving and play acting is not something you want your team to practice.

A captain is not just the best player in the team.



He doesn't even has sportsmanship qualities.
I doubt C. Ronaldo has or will ever have those required qualities in the future.

I don't have tinted glasses on so I have no problem at all admitting that Ronaldo does dive, however he has cut it down by loads.

So by your reasoning a captain is a role model and does not want his team to practice diving or playacting, surely that rules Gerrard out of any captaincy positions??

Then again, you cannot be taken seriously cause your opinions are clearly from Pool tinted glasses.

Time will tell.

Huh? What does diving and play acting got to do with Gerard?

Ahhhh, see what I was trying to point out Duke, madmoz???

Again, I would stress that being 'diving' is probably not the most relevant trait when it comes to what it takes to be a captain. Why don't we focus on other attributes like match temperament, mental toughness, etc?

touche airmood, touche... but most of us will readily admit that he too does in fact gets tackled by the grass.

No doubt that that's a very, very important traits for a captain. As a matter of fact, I don't even see Gaz as a proper captain, simply because he's not vocal as Keano, Schmikes, Cantona and brucey before him used to be. If it was up to me, I'd get Rio as captain because he isn't afraid to tell his mind.

But the fact of the matter is this, most people on this thread are saying that Ronaldo can't be a captain because he used to dive quite a fair bit. And as you pointed out, that's not a trait that determines whether someone deserves to be a captain or not. If someone says that he doesn't have leadership or motivating qualities, I have no issues with that cause he certainly doesn't at the moment.

I agree with you on this. I like my captains vocal and at this point, Rio is the closest to that.

I agree.

so you two don't rate integrity and respect very highly then? IMHO, a captain is someone who does not indulge in off field shenadigans, is a model proffesional, willing to protect his charges and one who respects the laws of the game...

Hmm... no one seems to fit that criteria

This post has been edited by madmoz: Sep 29 2007, 03:26 PM

he need played 2 more yrs at MAN UTD....

Indo-Mee belly good in acting too.

I'm avoiding the issue of diving as it will only lead to an argument over who dives more.

Of course one would one his captain to be the model professional dont they. Stays out of the spotlight, never brings attention to himself and the closest player to that now IMO(nothing to do with my Man Utd bias here) is Paul Scholes. Hence why i realy love the ginger assassin, he comes in, does his job and fecks off from the stadium to be with his family. The model professional.

But in a day and age where wages are getting more ridiculous by the minute, it's hard to get them doesn't it, not when there's so much money to throw around. What was it I heard about the the rumoured wages that Chelski are willing to offer to Ronaldinho, 200k pounds per week??? So IMO now, I'd be happy to get someone who does his job, shows all his commitment ont he pitch and then he can feck off and do whatever the hell he wants as long as it doesn't interfere with his commitment and performance. What he does on his own time is his business for me.

It's the same reason why I rate our Carra so highly.

I read that as well. Think the figure was 220 / 230K which is absurd. Brings about the issue of overpaid footballers once again.