update on the AK thread is sufficient.. no need to copy paste the same thing on all AK project thread..it's rather annoying to see the update or comments on those projects but only to find the same thing you posted

you got the point, haha...

he can post the same thing everywhere, and then some is midnight...

Sharing right info is appretiated but dont terbalik...

and still a lot of agents in this forum

I do not consider it is a spamming. It was a different topics of different projects for Aset Kayamas and that link I sent was relevant to that topics.

Just because you read all AK Thread doesn't mean I am posting the same thing over and over again. not ALL netizens read ALL AK project thread.

I only posted ONCE on these topics.

and I only posted these statement only for AK projects in Kuchai Lama, Taman Desa and Bukit Jalil as I live around there while posted the this link for AK project in Kepong as my office was nearby.

I didn't post this same statement on other AK projects.

Hope you understand.

Agreed, a check with PTG that this land was transfer to developer name on 8th of May 2018. just a day before election.

Maybe for this project, developer giving a go ahead.

But few insider sources said, Tun M have given instruction to halt the issuance of its land title. indeed, developer have paid and on computer, this land was transferred to Developer but actual Geran title issuance from JUPEM was not ready yet.

So, by law, This new government will try to go to court to legally reclaim back and refund the premium money to Developer considering the land at still at preliminary stage and not at middle of construction.

but whether if is true or not, only time will tell.

what is the problem with posting at midnight? you have some prejudice with me previously?

I have to work daily. I don't do personal thing during my work hour.

Are you working or you can slack off during workhour to go online?

I don't understand of the statement you mentioned "dont terbalik". please elaborate.

as for sharing the info, again as I replied to N3ar,

I wasn't repeating the SAME statement on the SAME topic. It was different topic, different project for AK.

AK have at least 16 projects in around Klang Valley and I only shared that link on 5 or 6 topics because these AK project is near my live place and work place.

Hope this clarify to you and please don't go follow netizens's comment blindly. Please check if I do really said the same thing over and over again on this topic.

This post has been edited by leslauliu: Jun 8 2018, 09:14 AM

@leslauliu
I am confused, which Malaysia rule said that different building with same podium MUST use same management account and same MC?
Rumah WIP and open market condo have different facilities, how to manage both blocks with the same account, doesn't make sense at all.
For 1st year the AK will be the JMB, after 1 years the Hermington and Kuchaimas are free to form their own MC.

This post has been edited by maxseng: Jun 8 2018, 10:06 PM

Hi Max seng,

Please read my post from a few previous page till the latest. If you still don't understand. please let me know then I shall try to simplify it again on next post.

I just briefly explained to you again.

1) ONE TITLES (LOT 15659) only entitle for ONE MC
2) ALL management issues are decided by PTG (Strata Title Act) while advise by COB DBKL.
3) IF you can implement Two Sub MC, please be aware this project only have one master title (LOT 15659). So TWO SUB MC is still managed under ONE MC.
4) A master title mixed of commercial and residential can be separated by SUB MC but subject to proper design of development by developer in terms of separation between two land uses but much harder for rumahwip and residential as they both is under residential title.
5) You are right about "Rumah WIP and open market condo have different facilities, how to manage both blocks with the same account, doesn't make sense at all.". It cannot be done although planning department of DBKL have approved a wall separating these two blocks. I already explained in previous post, even if you could do Sub MC. it is still basically under ONE MC coz there is only ONE master title. So. it can overrule the approval of the wall thus can be legally removed if rumahwip bring these issue to court.

Please look at the picture of the site plan I attached approved by DBKL. The site plan only shown 1 master title lot 15659.

This post has been edited by leslauliu: Jun 8 2018, 10:44 PM


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Another issue I would like to highlight to bebas buyers here,

even you are eligible to do sub MC, First, you must form MC after paying MOT fees and then only can vote YES for sub MC during your first AGM.

Secondly, to legally form Sub MC must gain at least 2/3 of the total vote during AGM.

Please be aware that only those who have paid the MOT fees eligible to vote and can be counted as valid vote.

For example, if only 100 units pay for MOT fees so typically there is only 100 eligible votes. So to gain 2/3 for sub MC is to gain at least 66 Votes to say YES to form Sub MC.

So I have highlighted the scenario on this topic link. please read.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=89171388

As this project , half is rumahwip and half is bebas, what happens if rumahwip owner have more total vote than bebas owner?

If cannot gain 2/3 vote then there is no sub MC thus can legally ask developer to remove the wall.

Rumahwip got same privilege with bebas block to use all the facilities in the development.

1) ONE TITLES (LOT 15659) only entitle for ONE MC
2) ALL management issues are decided by PTG (Strata Title Act) while advise by COB DBKL.
Any stated rule support your statement? Any stated rule mention one master title cannot have 2 separate MC under separate strata titles?

3) IF you can implement Two Sub MC, please be aware this project only have one master title (LOT 15659). So TWO SUB MC is still managed under ONE MC.
4) A master title mixed of commercial and residential can be separated by SUB MC but subject to proper design of development by developer in terms of separation between two land uses but much harder for rumahwip and residential as they both is under residential title.
5) You are right about [i]"Rumah WIP and open market condo have different facilities, how to manage both blocks with the same account, doesn't make sense at all.". It cannot be done although planning department of DBKL have approved a wall separating these two blocks. I already explained in previous post, even if you could do Sub MC. it is still basically under ONE MC coz there is only ONE master title. So. it can overrule the approval of the wall thus can be legally removed if rumahwip bring these issue to court.[/I]
Sub MC is when you need to "share" some common infra, but Kuchaimas and Hermington do not share anything, why should we go for MC and sub MC but not separate MC? facilities of Kuchaimas is not stated in SPA of Hermington, facilities of Hermington also do not stated in SPA of Kuchaimas, is very clear that the facilities(starting from guard house to the top of the building) is separated in SPA. Since, the other block is do not even appear in the SPA of the another block, in legal point of view it is not shared and cannot be share

This post has been edited by maxseng: Jun 9 2018, 12:27 AM

Any stated rule support your statement? Any stated rule mention one master title cannot have 2 separate MC under separate strata titles?

I already explained in many previous post.Please read. my reply to you on last post was just a repeated brief explanation. Yes, you have the right not to believe me, that's why, in my many previous post, I urge you all buyers to seek advise with COB DBKL and PTG sixth floor Strata Title department. I have posted the address also in that previous post.

Sub MC is when you need to "share" some common infra, but Kuchaimas and Hermington do not share anything, why should we go for MC and sub MC but not separate MC? facilities of Kuchaimas is not stated in SPA of Hermington, facilities of Hermington also do not stated in SPA of Kuchaimas, is very clear that the facilities(starting from guard house to the top of the building) is separated in SPA. Since, the other block is do not even appear in the SPA of the another block, in legal point of view it is not shared and cannot be share

Please look at this https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=88812861

Kuchaimas and hermington shared the podium although DBKL building plan approval shown a wall separating them. I have already explained again in previous post how lawyers and agents misled buyer. The statement you mentioned above shown you have been misinformed by the lawyer. Please don't expect lawyer will do the right thing too. That why, there is Bar Council to regulate all the lawyer's activities. I can tell you this problem will arise in the future as this and next year will have many more completion of Rumahwip/residential development.

Just trying to prevent more buyer got con and raise their awareness about pro and con of buying this kind of development.

If you say the SPA mean nothing so what is the thing that can justify the owner right use of the building?

I have go through your posts basically this so call MC problem start from your statement "rumahwip and bebas will pay the same maintenance fee".


And because of your nonsense statement, i go and read the STRATA MANAGEMENT ACT 2013.
It is stated clearly in STRATA MANAGEMENT ACT 2013 page 78, Part 60 Maintenance account of the management corporation

http://www.federalgazette.agc.gov.my/outpu...TA%20757-BI.pdf
So from which part of STRATA MANAGEMENT ACT said the management fee should be the same for all?
Stop talk kok, just tell me which part of STRATA MANAGEMENT ACT support your statement.

This post has been edited by maxseng: Jun 10 2018, 04:23 PM

Perdana View Condo and Perdana View Boutique Residence are both residential, not different land use. Apart from playground and tennis court, they have own separate gym and pool etc. They hv different jmb.

Plus they cannot access to each other's territory due to different access cards despite properly sharing podium. Do note they share the same project name here.

I do not think Kuchaimas will share Hermington's facilities because of the same reasons:
1. Podium different levels, not "shared"
2. Different access cards (you can't share what you cannot access) Even if you do break the separating wall, you still cannot masuk the lift. Unless claw your way up like spiderman.
3. They pay different maintenece fees (0.25 vs 0.30psf, correct me if I'm wrong)
4. Different project names, clearly defined own exit and entrance.

I dont talk nonsense. I explained what i said and what you shown is just general statement.

The fact you dont understand about SPA then pls go PTG and ask. Please dont just post any law from your source when u dont even understand them.

Please understand that SPA and strata title Act is two different thing.
SPA is compiled by lawyers. And by lawyer, they do make mistake too.

I went to check with PTG and this project cannot do sub MC. Whether you believe it or not, it is up to u as i have no means to bring any ptg officer to show proof here.

I already emphasized to existing buyers here to check with PTG.

U have every right not to believe me but please avoid foul language and dont say i talk kok. I shared what i learnt when i checked with ptg for my own condo.

Again, i would like to emphasize, i dont talk kok. You can easily identify who is the real talk kok netizen in this thread. I have explained quite comprehensively if you read my previous many posts.

This post has been edited by leslauliu: Jun 18 2018, 02:47 PM

No such thing as different JMB lol.

1) yes different level but under act by PTG, it is shared because is it only one title thus one MC only. I have posted the picture in previous post.

2) access card for block is fine. I am not talking about that. I am saying with one MC, rumahwip block entitles to use facilties exclusive for bebas block as both block paying the same "share factor".

Please ask any of your friend who is land surveyor about this. "Land surveyor" not quantity surveyor or building surveyor.

3) yes they paying different, and when you can said that, it only.meant u dont understand about how they formulate the maintenance charges. Maintenances charge formulated based on share factor issued ny PTG syer parcel approval (SIFUS).

I understand when u said 25 cents and 30cents shown in SPA as far as i know. Like i said again, if u read ur spa. 25 and 30 cents is only proposed and developer wont claim any responsbility in the future. Ask your lawyer.

Secondly, rumahwip pay less just because their unit is small and lower share factor according PTG.

4) yes different name and different access. But car park floor is shared and if you read my previous post, this development only one master title. I only believe you can separate MC IF DEVELOPER CAN SHOW YOU ANY PROOF THERE IS TWO TITLES IN THIS DEVELOPMENT. One for bebas and one for rumahwip. Then i fully believe you can do separate MC.



And do you know what JMB mean? Joint management body. And it only meant that developmemt havent been issued MOT.

Joint management body is between residentials and developers. Not joint between resident's blocks.

U dont have to believe me. I just shared what i known . I have always ask to you all to check with relevant authorities PTG and COB DBKL.

Show them my message and see what theu said.

This post has been edited by leslauliu: Jun 18 2018, 02:40 PM

Just received my stamped SNP.. who else residents here received?

Hi All,
i bought another AK proj and being asked by lawyer to sign a letter of consent (irrevocably consent) to the change or amendment of dev order and/or building plan.
Basically signing this letter will surrender rights as buyers from seeking indemnity fr the dev should they make any changes/defects later if i read it correctly ? Am I right ?
i heard hermington, holmes 2 & maybe other projects buyers also requested to sign same letter. Do your have same experience ?
I just don't feel comfortable signing it if my understanding abv is correct as it will revokes our rights as buyer from indemnity from the dev and by then no laws can protect us. what's your thoughts on this ?

Is there any whatsapp group available for this purchaser?

https://www.facebook.com/groups/205377496741412

hi, as per my experience, this is the tactic of developer, you sign the letter, you pass the rights to them. Since you agree at advance.