The difference is most if not all BBB/uuu bought at or near peak price.

Contemporary history shows, in the long term, poorperly price rise at about inflation rate. Those bought at uuu/BBB price are likely underwater for extended period of time e.g Japan.

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This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 6 2023, 01:42 PM

All the things you mentioned don’t mean a thing if you buy it for ownstay. Nowadays, not many people still buy properties for investment anymore. Price suppressed is even better for those who want to buy and stay in Cyberjaya. More people can afford to buy a home in Cyberjaya!

Yup! when you have money to save you better be investing. really got no idea why everyday harping buying property eventually you will die broke. pay to the banks double the value bla bla bla. That's what he has been preaching since 2010. but it's already 2023 and i'm still here not yet die pun. The units im not staying in, i lease them and paying more monthly in hoping in 10 years i can pay finish all 3 of my property. Now worst, his calling ppl scammer.

dai lou! when cyberjaya is still cheap you don't want to buy.. wait until the price shoot up only want to buy issit? my god. i study in MMU back in 2004, 2007 graduated, while working move around Klang Valley now back into Cyberjaya. If i have no confidence with this place i also won't buy it la. D'Pulze weekend need to park until the lowest floor, Tamarind Square every weekend flooded with ppl coming over for OOTD. Even the cafe i always go need to queue on weekends.. DUH.

Serious note.. if can icemanfx please don't come. It's getting congested here in cyberjaya. call it underwater or not, just don't come. i really want to live peacefully enjoy the serenity and perhaps retire here as well.

i think i may buy couple more once i'm done with the installment of my current units. My GOD my unit in hyve lease for RM1.4k and it's like 30+ viewing appointments in a week. I post up today and after 2nd viewing the person confirmed his renting.

PS: will continue to use speedhome/speedrent service and it comes with insurance as well. Peace of mind. Best thing was even with confirmation, their runners will still be showing the unit to others. It's only after signing then only they would start cancelling appointments and informing others that the unit had been taken.

1) What kind of Financial Planning Advices u give to people ? Are u advising investors, speculators or people buying for own stay ? And 30km judgment ? Who's theory is this ? What about the affordability of a person ?

2) Until oversupply is reduced substantially, cbj price will remain suppressed.

a ) U are advising future speculators , right ?
b ) Investors can get reasonable rental incomes from buying properties at suppressed price like Lelong , why not ?
c ) price will remain suppressed...This one has Little impact for those buying for own stay . If waiting for price to drop 1K, u may miss a golden chance to owe a property u like.

I do not know what kinda of Investment Guru u are to provide all types of unconventional advices n theory. Kinda like one Snake Oil fits all.

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 6 2023, 03:39 PM

Yes, u are right . Buying a property is a Financial Plan of a buyer...towards his or her Goal. Not decided by Ice.

Why not Ice to decide ?

1) Price goes down---she said under water ..do not buy
2) Price goes up - she said buying at peak, do not buy
2) price remains the same..she said do not buy , no prospect.

U buy Bangsar property..she said KLCC is better ...never ending story.

As if people buy property needs her approval.

BTW, saving money is tough, but investing is even tougher than saving ( deemed stage 2 ) due to risks involved.

I have a friend who has 10 properties collecting passive rental incomes ( many are loans free ). Another has 6k monthly rental income ( loan free ). Not saying u must do the same. But to say your method is right n works for u by putting in extra money to pay more than the actual instalments ( u say u can afford to do so ). U should reap the fruits later on with passive rental incomes.

BTW, I stop going to Tamarind Square for about a year...due to parking issue.

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 6 2023, 04:35 PM

Guess you haven't met or don't know someone whose rental income a month is a few times of 6k per month, loan free, and don't and didn't follow BBB/uuu playbook.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Oct 6 2023, 04:40 PM

None of my concern .....

I just give example of getting passive income

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 6 2023, 07:20 PM

Those live in coconut shell, their world is the coconut shell.

that guy started somewhere oi. you think what suddenly strike lottery then buy x number of units and have 20k passive a month? dream on la.

I live within my means , only a simple life.

Recently, some scammers from Singapore have Billions , do u have ?

If u have , my advice to u is not to talk in this forum, waste of yr time.

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 6 2023, 04:48 PM

Over 2 times of 20k passive income a month, strike lottery also can't achieve. It is not a dream but reality, only you don't know or not in that league.

These few believed are proxy of prc billionaire.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Oct 6 2023, 05:16 PM

BBB/UUU Playbook is outdated, not only Cyberjaya but Many Places in Klang Valley, dunno why someone so vehemently against Cyberjaya...the crazy UUU phase is normal for many developing countries, after a while it will die down like a virus

People with passive incomes of 20K a month..do not talk much about properties are under water. They just take the action to buy when it is needed.

Those got Zero property always blow water everywhere. Accusing everyone is buying at the peak.( mistake.)

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 6 2023, 07:33 PM

Those with over 20k rental income and appreciated value didn't and won't buy in cbj.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Oct 6 2023, 05:32 PM

those buying property and hoping for appreciation will die faster.

if they do not have the long term plan to pay the instalments ( struggling to pay at best )

Money does not simply fall from a tree

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 6 2023, 11:18 PM

Funny.. 2012 u say the same thing for setia alam hahaha. I was staying there back then! Bought a pkns double storey cause it's cheap. You said the same damn thing! Look at it now. Let me repeat and hopefully you will learn.. 35 years ago no one bets an eye on subang, 25 years ago no one bets an eye on puchong, 15 years ago no one cares about setia alam. 2023 you can say shit about cyberjaya and let's see in 2033 i go Holland or not. Hahaha

Guess you will say the same thing for semenyih, kota warisan and anywhere else further outskirt.

Again don't come cyberjaya please.

This post has been edited by kidmad: Oct 6 2023, 09:46 PM

Yr talking as if it's yourself but your not. Proxy of prc billionaire or not i don't know.. but my neighbors are all Chinese millionaires that's for sure.. what bout yours?