Actually if we look at the price:

PS3 - 2150
XBOX360 - 1550
Wii - 1550

PS3 is just extra 600. What is 600 if you're getting Blueray disc, Cell processor, slot drive, memory card reader, SACD, etc?

And 600 is just 3 game worth of money. Unless you really like Xbox Live! or Wii's dna, PS2 fanboy will sure stick to PS3. And PS2 install base is huge. PS3 will still win.

buying the games for PS3 oso expensive la that's why ppl stick with xbox 360 or Wii.

er... just to let u know

PS3 : RM 1813.73 only(sgd 799)

you can find *p blu-rays mer?
original wii and xbox 360 games are even cheaper la
and about the PS3 being a good blu-ray drive, its not HDMI1.3 ready.
talk about a PS2 fanboy going the way of the mario the only reason i'll want a PS3 is GT5

Good luck with that BS.

The price of current ps3 is still expensive...althought i'm a ps3 fan, but because of few reason, i decide 2buy wii 1st...at least i can buy more games& enjoy the experince which u can't obtain from PS3...Maybe in future i'll get 360+PS3, who knows?

Eh, it's HDMI 1.3 ready since launch la.

This post has been edited by redbull_y2k: Mar 9 2007, 11:59 AM

Hideo Kojima has jumped into the wrong boat. IT'S STILL NO TOO LATE HIDEO! PORT MGS4 TO THE PC!

tats the way alvintan, get all 3, must be fair to all the consoles

Ok PS3 isn't expensive...

now what?

P.S i love my 360!!

Oh PS3 just extra 600 O.o , but i love all three

Same price lar. I saw PS3 game rm200. Wii game also rm200. But xbox360 only rm150. So more or less lar. But PS3 game is BD.

Can't yet lar. But in the future, who knows. Future proof mah. Its HDMI 1.3 ready bro.

Hahaha, I'm just stating the fact.

Where got expensive, its the same price bro. Just add RM600, u got BD player. Even for Xbox360, if you want to add HD DVD, u need to add rm600. So which one is more expensive? Its the same lar.

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Added on March 9, 2007, 12:18 pmBy the way, the upside of buying PS3 is, there's not risk of getting 3ROD. PS3 is running cool and quiet (like AMD Cool n' Quiet). But XBox360 is hot and noisy. Wii games if for kids and graphics is pretty bad for new generation console. PS3 is the way of the future.

This post has been edited by gogo2: Mar 9 2007, 12:18 PM

youre gonna start a flame war with statement like this

This post has been edited by ballistix89: Mar 9 2007, 12:23 PM

nvm lar. I think everyone who play console is kid or big kid. We all are big kid. Kekekeke....dJinn is big Kid boss...

For games, theres several place we can buy cheaper& original from Djinn/bernard/ beatboyz...Maybe can get more discount also.
For BD Player, not everybody will buy it, some might wait till hv more movies/game release thru that media only ppl buy. The current price for BD Player is above average, i'll prefer 2wait since i already spend on the latest console..hehe

For pros and cons of the 7th generation console, can't really say anything about it..Own has its uniqueness their way...If ppl can afford, i'll recomend trying every console...the experince of trying every console is priceless

$ony fanboy detected

Can you buy pirated PS3 games yet?

pirated fanboy detected

Pirated PS3 games not yet available, and cannot discuss pirated software right here

This post has been edited by LiLBoy: Mar 9 2007, 12:54 PM

oh yes. If every game is on BD then it will magically becomes better!

Look at these "future proof" features from the original PS2:

Firewire - DEAD
HDD expansion slot - DEAD
Modem/LAN add-on - DEAD

Is that suppose to make games better? Or for that matter does anyone care about HDMI 1.3?

More like overhype "fact".

For what? You can't even find BD movies at your regular video shop. 5 years later maybe lah provided the format does not suffer premature death like Betamax.

Yet Wii outsold PS3.

uh - oh, here we go again

eh? whats with the pointing at me all a sudden ? me not boss

Eh, u only write out future proof that is dead. DVD player is one of the future proof stuff. The reason DVD is successful is because of PS2 also.

Is game in BD, developer can make more powerful game. Its in the future.

HDMI 1.3 is the latest generation HDMI to transfer video and digital multichannel audio. Won't make game better. But for future LCD tv which some of you will buy.

It doesn't need 5 years. Look at DVD. It just took 1 year to swamp the world with PS2. And DVD follows suit.

PS3 is not that much expensive than other console. We should support PS3 now.

Of course Wii outsold PS3. PS3 volumn is low. Ramp up is slow. Wii is easier to build. Ramp up easier. We'll see this in 1 year time. PS3 will be in a lot of people's home. BD will win. HD DVD will become betamax this time.

This post has been edited by gogo2: Mar 9 2007, 01:00 PM

Argue is begin

Eh? can define how a BD can make more powerful game?

i think many of us already agree,it's not as expensive as many people make it out to be,especially given the fact that it comes with a HDMI port and BD player...
but people wont be looking at those two ONLY
as the ps3 is primarily a games machine,it should have more games to support it(which currently it lacks,unfortunately)

just 3 games...
if i were to choose with a limited budget,i'd get a 360 with 3 games instead of the ps3,since MGS4 isnt out yet...
at least get to enjoy GoW,err..well,thats the only game im looking at on the 360..

that's right...ps2,not ps3

doesnt matter. cos in the next generation war, there's already a winner.
the gamers

it will suck
just look at MGS and MGS2 Substance on the pc.....
the game is still fun to play,but overall, with the controls...it's suited best to the consoles...
plus must upgrade the pc again...malas la!

one thing about adding HD DVD playback to the 360...
you'd be having an extra drive.
so if you're hd dvd drive goes kaput,you can still game on the 360's drive.
for those with tight spaces at home,it wont look as nice as the ps3,though..

it could have something else.
eventually we might be seeing things happen to it..



that depends..
dont go around expecting EAALL games developers to make fantastic games with the BD..
most would just use it for extra languages,or behind the scenes crapvideos

like you said,it's in the future.
nothing is for certain

the smarter play would be to supportbuy a console which has games you want to play.
go and buy a ps3 when the game you want to play is on the wii,you've just screwed yourself

You can put more info in to the game. BD have larger storage than DVD. But HD DVD for Xbox360 is coming. To upgrade, the price of Xbox360 will be the same as PS3. So PS3 is not expensive at all.

I already own a PS3 and I am loving it. Why bother with junk consoles like 360 and Wii...come on, grow up. Forget that nostalgia mario bros bullshit. Its time to move forward!

thats a BS statement my friend. ur taking this too seriously...
even tho im loyal to sony i wouldnt make such statement as this.

ps3 is still expensive? well, we all have to ask our pockets and ask.
is that expensive?...

Opps...I didn't know many of you agree PS3 is not expensive. If like that, I don't have to open a thread just to educate people that PS3 is really not expensive. Its actually cheaper than buying a BD player.

hehe of course lah pirated. trust me lor the other day I really want buy original game FFXII but look at price its RM 218...but blady hell do convert also USD 60..we buy games more expensive than even the richer Americans. So would anyone so stupid pay a high premium for original games??? what stupid izit? when I can get only RM5? no way ok!

u really got no idea what ur talking about. XBOX is XBOX. PS3 is PS3.

data compression technology is getting better by the day.
im guessing how many 360 games will use HD DVD?.
correct me if im wrong about this statement.

This post has been edited by MR.Shiney: Mar 9 2007, 01:33 PM

if the thing u're saying is true, why we need HD-DVD/BD? As a matter of fact, if last time we're using CD, why we need DVD?

I wonder why u guys want 2fight for the latest console. Everybody got their preferences, can't force anybody 2get what console u like right? Even if u support single console also no need 2bias on another console. It sounds like a nerd (no offence yea).

Anyway, we just can wait& see how all the console sales doing...no poing shooting each other for nothing

aisheh, i also bought pirated FF12

but will support ori for PS3

haha what u sure or not? or u pretend stupid izit? anyone who play games are nerds. consoles player more nerd oso only nerds love GTA and its going 360 too.

I wished I saved my copypasta on /v/.
Anyway, I don't see myself getting a PS3 anytime in the near future. Why?

- Very little games that interest me (Resistance and Motorstorm oh wow). No RPGs or action games. Later in the future, MGS4, FFXIII, DMC4... long way to release.
- Pricey
- Don't have a OMG L33t TV to play to it's full potential. Still using a 10-year old 30inch CRT.
- Lol, Blu-Ray. Even pirated Blu-Ray games will be expensive, and Blu-Ray movies have a long way to come.

The most important point to me know is that there are very little games for it to justify my purchase.

I don't like the games lineup for Wii either.

360 is the only appealing choice to me now. Nice library of games too. But I think I'll wait a bit to buy that as well. Horror stories of 3ROD abound... mostly FPS games... Mass Effect will give me a slight push.

Until then, it's back to my PS2 and PC.

This post has been edited by Zephro: Mar 9 2007, 02:00 PM

Its not pricey compare to other console. Plus, you can still play PS2 game with it (not all) If you're ps2 owner and the ps2 just died, naturally, PS3 is the way to go.

I mean nerd not for single gamers, but for bias gamers. Read my statement again& hopefully u understand it

But can the PS3 play all my *cough* PS2 backups?
Zing.
And there are very few games on it. Why should I spend 2000+ bucks just to play Resistance and Motorstorm?
Then comes the waiting. Yay.

Nonsense. DVD was successful because it was supported by many electronic manufacturer. My first DVD player was my PC.

Another "GAMES IN BLU-RAY IS MORE POWERFUL" crap nonsense. Go study programming lah.

We don't even have High Definition transmission in this country. By the time we have HDTV transmission HDMI 1.3 will be obsolete.

HDMI 1.3 = WAP

Price cannot lie.

PS3 is available here and there la. Wii even outsold everywhere in Japan while PS3 still can easily get. Stop lying.

Maybe. Maybe not.

believe me. part of the DVD success is attributed to DVD. there's a fact on that in the internet if u search around.....yes, my first dvd is my PC also

i didn't say games in BD is more powerful. can u read my statement properly. i said u can put more stuff into it. and of course xbox360 also can with HD-dvd. i dun wan to argue this anymore unless u read my statement properly.

who talk about HD transmission??? we're talking about console here. HD already coming to town with a lot of HD supported LCD and DVD player. its nearer than u think. HDMI 1.3 = WAP? check your facts. HDMI is component cable equivalent. i think you're living under coconut shell.

yes, price cannot lie. its not expensive compare to other console.

Also consider that the Wii outsold the PS3 mainly due to it's price. It's around half the price of a PS3, so in all fairness, one should halve the sales of the Wii in order to really compare it to the PS3.

It's like comparing selling Proton Iswara to Mercedes Benz.
Imagine if there were fanboys for Proton and Mercedes.
Proton fanboys would be going "HAHAH LOOK AT THESE SALES FIGUES. PROTON SOLD MORE CARS THAN MERCEDES. ITS OVER. MERCEDES IS FINISHED."

When they let slip through their selective memory is that 10 Iswaras can buy you a Mercedes or something. A rough example, but you get the general idea.

lol im with zephro. Currently own xbox 360 (original not modded) and going to buy PS3 or Wii someday. So far no game that interest me on PS3 and i dont have a HDTV so its a waste to play on SDTV

oh yea about the BD can give more poweful game and yadda yadda, its all PR bs. If you wanna talk about storage space, pc have even more storage but why the gfx not comparable? or should be better right?

ok, i think BD stuff will have powerful game is BS. its just make u swap less disc.

but in the end, that's not deviate us from the fact that PS3 is not really that expensive...which is the main point of this thread.

hohoho ok nerd v2 then kekeke

More posts!
Compare a DVD to a BD. What's the difference? Only space.
DVD movies and BD movies? BD movies higher res, better sound maybe. Utterly useless if you don't have a GOOD, EXPENSIVE TV to go along with it, which many people don't have.

Also, there won't be any 360 HD-DVD games, as the slot is an addon. I'm pretty sure not many will like the idea of spending another 200USD to play more games. Also, developers won't like cutting down their target demographic. Why make a HD-DVD game limited to people who bought the addon when I can just make it on a DL DVD, which everyone with a 360 has?

Simple logic.

But ps3 games wat is d price now selling?

Yes. DVD is successful due to the DVD format. Not the PS2. Glad you come to that conclusion.

Oh yes you did. Let me quote you:

Can you tell us what is so important about HDMI 1.3? Especially to gamers?

Yes it is.

This post has been edited by pirateguy: Mar 9 2007, 02:30 PM

its up to the developers to use the space more efficient.
games now running on dual layer DVD is running fine.
im fully amaized by how much content can be put in a DL DVD with Gears of Wars.

just to tell you that most of us here play pirated games.
will that work with the ps3?.

sheesshh.. kinda fun posting such nonsence

Its fun poking fun at fanboys with their nonsense.

RM200 which is same price as Wii or 360

HDMI is not important. But as an extra feature that you get eventhough you dun need to pay that much.

RM600 is a lot of money.
You may have rich parents, or maybe you're the CEO of some company, but RM600 is still a lot of money to most people.

fyi, all next gen console buyer now support ori....in LYN....please support ori...

damn u're right about fun...hahaha...actually i'm addicted to lyn...help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Added on March 9, 2007, 2:34 pmnot if you can spend rm1700 for nintendo wii or 360

This post has been edited by gogo2: Mar 9 2007, 02:35 PM

Errr.....no for 360. Price for 360 games ranges from RM150-169, more then that usually are Limited Edition or US version (Region 1)

yes, lar....almost lar.... wii is 200

Since when X360 cost RM 1,700?

with all the extra accesssories lar...of course...actually now can get at 1550 also...i state that in the first post...thanks for noticing my statement...:P

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Added on March 9, 2007, 2:41 pmactually I'm having fun poking poking fun being poke fun at for masquerading as fanboys..... i think some of u know me... and u know which console i'm going to buy...muahahahahah...

This post has been edited by gogo2: Mar 9 2007, 02:41 PM

better just use the ps3, 360 and wii controllers and we settle outside lah... the HK famous "young & dangerous" style. we can starts whack each other in the street! since ps3 & 360 controller are wireless have to throw like boomerang but for wii can strangle ppl!

RM 1,550? You never do research meh?

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-14-71-bq-49-en.html

That's only RM 1,415 for premium. Wii (Japan) is only RM 1,058.

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-14-71-bt-49-en.html

malaysia lar , not everyone buy online ok???

and who is going to buy Wii japan anyway? Wii US is the way to go lar...unless u know japanese to play those japanese game...or stuck playing region free game

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Added on March 9, 2007, 2:47 pmby the way, PS3 singapore is rm1800 for 60gb version... u only need to pay rm400 extra to get ps3......

Its even cheaper!!!!!!!!!!! PS3 is cheap! compare to other console.

This post has been edited by gogo2: Mar 9 2007, 02:47 PM

are you sure all of US next gen buyers support ori? well, i dont.. partially...
well, we do own a couple of ori games.

haha, addicted? me too

And not everyone can buy console for RM 2000+ ok??

Wii US is still cheap also.

Where you see that price?

This post has been edited by pirateguy: Mar 9 2007, 02:56 PM

arr forget to ask you,what is the main purpose of you open this thread??? for telling us PS3 is cheaper??if PS3 cheap thn let it cheap lar...

ala apa nie.. cheap or no cheap for the fan boy money is not the problem...

ok if u do as what i say u will get all 3 console form me...

convince each and every one in LYN to bank in rm 1 to me today then at the end of today ill have RM79,906... with this much cash i can get all 3 console put in public are so all of u can test hahahaha the rest will be kept in my save box for future usage.

Someone quoted that price....in one of the thread...

cheap, then u all should know...some people already have mindset that PS3 is damn expensive.... and forget to take PS3 into consideration when buying next gen console eventhough, the truth is, PS3 is cheap.

Urs statement is nth better than crap too. The statement is legitimate. More powerful here means the games graphic are improve tremendously and more contents that need to be fit in the media, thus the introduction of BD. This is to cater for the graphic development in the future.

Of coz, whether the games are creative or not are ups to gamers and the games developers but the statement is nontheless true.

LOL, so what if we dun have HDTV in M'sia? Do u even know the usage of HDMI in the first place? Do u study their protocol?

Try to wiki before u post..


And no, i ain't Sony fansboy.

kthxbai.

thanks. i was having hard time explaining things to him. i wonder he still understand or not...i also feel bad trying to explain it...

Don't quote with a price without proof.

Huh?? Forget to take PS3 into consideration? Because its "PS3", we must take into consideration? Wah...that makes sense!

even though u argue because of argueing sake, i'm ok

by the way, the price u quote, do u realise u need to add custom tax??

we need to take into consideration because ps3 is part of nexgen console...isn't that clear?

I know about the tax. Reason I use play-asia because I got link to the price.
If you buy from bernard/djin they offer same/less price.

X360 is also next-gen. Wii, in a way, is also next-gen. But in the end, both are still cheaper than the PS3. Very clear?

haiya, of course cheaper lar....but as i said in the first thread, ps3 got a bit more feature mah...

if u still insist on dollar to dollar comparison, u win lar...ok ...

It's a marketing buzz word much like how Sony says "1080p is True HD" or "120fps", or "next-gen doesn't start until we (sony) says so".

Games like Resistance already make use of Blu-ray yet it its no better than Gears of War.

If 1 DVD is not enough, then the solution is multiple discs like what they did with Blue Dragon. Don't make swapping discs as an issue because I sure as hell know that nobody cried when we had to switch discs during the Playstation 1 era.

What for study the protocol? The end consumers are not interested in protocol. They just want to plug & play. What is the point of harping about "1.3" ?

omg, 1080p is marketing buzzword...

i think u better go out and see the world...maybe just go to the nearest Jaya Jusco and look at their 1080p display....

Ok, to be fair. PS3 is cheap or not compare to Wii or Xbox360 is depends on the gamers themselves since variety of games available and gaming experience takes into consideration.

But if u ask me if PS3 is cheap judging from its hardware currently, yes it is very cheap. Try to look how much a BD player cost in ebay.

Read again: "1080p is True HD" is marketing buzzword.

and not forgetting, it can play SACD

If you tell me this, I very much agree.

Unfortunately the unavailability of blu-ray movies/media in our country make it seem like such a waste feature at the moment.

I went to this Sony Bravia roadshow and one salesgirl asked me if I am interested in HDTV. I asked her "so how much can I get a blu-ray/PS3"? She says "Blu-ray/PS3 is not officially launch in Malaysia so no idea".

What a silly tactics.

Not a PS3 nor Wii buyer but if you're talking about sales in malaysia, it will depend on :-


1.) Availability of ahem games
2.) Number of games avaialble to the public.
3.) Quality of games to the public.

So whether or not PS3 is better in the end depends on whether ahem blue ray games are available.

That is very very very true. Malaysia Boleh!!

flaming again lol..it's depend on user preference la. no need to argue which consoles is da best. Apparently all consoles are the same but only lacking the features. Let's take example on the PC itself which do you prefer Intel or AMD? What about OS? Do you prefer Windows, Linux or MAC? See all this things has it's own benefits la.. Argue also useless. Not to flaming you guys.

wow... two threads of console wars at the same time....

actually all this about next gen console war, i really want to see the day ps3 launches something that we all aweeeeeeeee

then we really can say ps3 beat them all
cause hardware ps3 do beats them
but if lousy driver driving ferrari, where can race?

2sen in tea break

no matter who loses in the console war... we as the gamers still win by getting the experience...

so now its like MU vs Chelsea.. MU fans sure say Chelsea lousy and vice versa...

so whats the conclusion of this thread? ps3 is a cheaper? thats all?

Conclusion: fanboy gays

Conclusion: PS3 ain't cheap for Malaysians

sheeesh...cant see the point of arguement at all innit?

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Added on March 9, 2007, 4:24 pmtrue true true...! but is that all this thread is about? it took 5 pages to tell me that meh? aiyo...close this thread laaa...going no where.

This post has been edited by stereothug: Mar 9 2007, 04:24 PM

You do realize the price of the Wii is temporarily inflated now because of the demand? Also, what in your opinion is great about Cell?

Sales figures indicate that the console fight will be much better this time. I'm certain Sony will not completely dominate this time. And this is good. Maybe next time they will actually come up with a good machine and not try to play the proprietary crap game again.

This post has been edited by ikanayam: Mar 9 2007, 04:35 PM

i tell u guys what, meet in kotaraya or sungai wang arcade.

got several arcade machines there, pick one fighting game.put in 20 cents, pull each others head off.



next time i am under attack, this will be my method.