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post Apr 20 2017, 11:04 AM

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[quote=sdin3269,Apr 20 2017, 04:26 AM]
Still stupid weapon for combat arm, first u dont need 150 rounds in 1 mag, even 1000 rounds per minute burst in the air but not accurate what for?

a. Weapon to heavy
b. Magazine too bulky, cumbersome. not easy to handle if stoppages.
b. Spare magazine? Too bulky if there are. Bear in mind that
[quote=sdin3269,Apr 20 2017, 09:14 AM]
ou dont shoot 150 rounds in a single rounds or shot duration unless you have a bullet store behind you. That 150 rounds is your only rounds issued. nod.gif and it is useless as it is not accurate and wastage. When you are in combat perhaps in th range of 50-250m a rapid fire is the best. (Using small arm). In close combat that weapon is too heavy and perhaps a short barrel and lighter weapon is much better. This magazine definitely have more jammed issues.

This is a copy of the obselete russian assault riffle BTW this weapon is only use by the Gila NK presidential guard. wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif who can argue with him lol
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U do know that the china troop push back the coalition during the korea way by just the sheer number of army and bullets being fired at all conners. There even incident where an armoured division collum was pushed back due to number of bullet round they are receiving making troop disembarking impossible and fatal.

Victory by volume still applicable in today warfare.

And north korea have plenty of human resource just to do that.
The mindset of surgical warfare is still not in their war book.
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post Apr 20 2017, 12:50 PM

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Air Force effectively grounds NH90 fleet after engine failure
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Air Force effectively grounds NH90 fleet after engine failure
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An Air Force NH90 helicopter suffered serious engine failure while flying over Cook Strait and was forced to make an emergency landing near Blenheim on Sunday.



An Air Force NH90 helicopter suffered serious engine failure while flying over Cook Strait and was forced to make an emergency landing near Blenheim on Sunday (supplied)
All eight of the Air Force's NH90 helicopters have been all but grounded after a mid-air engine failure near Blenheim on Sunday.

Newshub understands the $630 million fleet isn't allowed to fly over water or dangerous terrain, and cannot carry VIPs.

The restriction comes after the left engine of an NH90 failed while flying over Cook Strait on Sunday, forcing it to make an emergency landing at a private aerodrome at Cloudy Bay.
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Air Force NH90 suffers inflight engine failure
The NH90 can fly on one engine, but it can't hover. It's understood the helicopter started to shudder and a fire warning activated in the cockpit.

The NH90 can fly on one engine, but it can't hover. It's understood the helicopter started to shudder and a fire warning activated in the cockpit.

Crew made a controlled descent and made a rolling landing like an aeroplane, rather than a vertical landing according to witnesses.

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The NH90 fleet is only around six years old, and is one of the most advanced tactical airlift helicopters in the world.

The restriction has forced EQC Minister Gerry Brownlee and Health Minister Jonathan Coleman to cancel their visit to Kaikoura tomorrow because the NH90 they planned to use is not allowed to fly over the Cook Strait.

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The Defence Force has been approached for comment.

Newshub.

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/201...ne-failure.html
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post Apr 20 2017, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Apr 19 2017, 05:08 PM)
If u can get more lead spray in the air without tedious reload progress.

Why not

If it look stupid but work, it not stupid
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spray and pray (to the Great Leader)

even US soldiers will shoot off whole 200 round belt of SAW ammo in the heat of the action

better to have separate mags so a short break in firing is enforced

QUOTE(yinchet @ Apr 19 2017, 06:50 PM)
SK have several thousand of Vulcan AA would wipe out all an2.
Though radar is having hard time to find those aircraft it still can be easily solve by using high tech EO system that have been install on the entire streach of nk and sk border.
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Msia don't need to worry, we got KYPMbangi AAA laugh.gif

QUOTE(thpace @ Apr 20 2017, 11:04 AM)
And north korea have plenty of human resource just to do that.
The mindset of surgical warfare is still not in their war book.
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yeah well... granted on a political strategy level the US may not necessarily have won its wars in the Mid East, but from a tactical perspective they've inflicted massive damage for relatively minimal loss, absolutely disproportionate to their own casualties.

this way of fighting is far too 70s. It will be a massacre against modern weapons and tactics, if it ever really comes down to it... which it may, if China and SK decide they're fed up with NK's antics whistling.gif

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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Apr 20 2017, 02:12 PM)
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Bizarrely, an airforce with the image of a flightless bird as its emblem.

And considering the current New Zealand Air Force, deliciously ironic. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Apr 19 2017, 06:50 PM)
SK have several thousand of Vulcan AA would wipe out all an2.
Though radar is having hard time to find those aircraft it still can be easily solve by using high tech EO system that have been install on the entire streach of nk and sk border.
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Probably not that of a good idea to use the An-2 for mass paradrops nowadays, but for covert infiltration of special agents or small commando teams, I would still consider using these types of planes before the much more detectable helicopters or modern transport planes. The An-2's ability to land and take off from very crude landing strips or even open fields is a plus as it can also be used for exfiltration purposes.

Besides, an expert pilot with good intelligence sources can always find and exploit small gaps in the most secure of air defence systems. Natural atmospheric and geological occurences like thunderstorms or the sun's heat convection off the earth's surface can sometimes mess with the most sensitive electronic systems.

I have also heard stories during the cold war of skilled Soviet pilots turning off the engines of their An-2's mid-flight, to further avoid detection on infiltration/exfiltration missions across NATO borders and glide silently for up to 20-30 miles at treetop level with the engine off. ohmy.gif

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South Korea’s Navy develops new ship-to-ground missile

Navy develops new ship-to-ground missile

South Korea’s Navy on Tuesday released photos of successful test-firings of a new tactical ship-to-ground guided missile from a battleship on an unidentified date. [YONHAP]

Apr 19,2017

South Korea’s Navy has completed the development of new tactical ship-to-ground guided missiles that would enhance its ability to strike North Korea’s key military facilities, the country’s arms procurement agency said Tuesday.

South Korea will start mass-producing the missiles with two types of launch systems – inclined and vertical – next year after a seven-year project led by the Agency for Defense Development, according to the Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA).

The missiles have met all the required operational capabilities in a recent test for use by next-generation frigates, it added.

The shrapnel of the missiles’ warhead can penetrate armored vehicles and destroy an area with the size of two football fields at a shot, the agency said.

The nation’s warships have largely depended on anti-ship or anti-aircraft guided missiles. But the successful development of the new missile will upgrade its capability to attack ground targets.

Especially, ship-to-ground missiles with a vertical launch platform that can be used by various naval ships will be operational beginning in 2019.

“[South Korea] has become able to strike from sea not only the enemy’s major bases on the ground but also core facilities, including those related to ballistic missile launches,” said Lee Sang-moon, head of the DAPA’s guided weapon development team.

The new missile will serve as key maritime equipment for the military’s Kill Chain pre-emptive strike system against North Korea’s provocation.

https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.wordpres...ground-missile/
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QUOTE(sdin3269 @ Apr 20 2017, 09:14 AM)
ou dont shoot 150 rounds in a single rounds or shot duration unless you have a bullet store behind you.  That 150 rounds is your only rounds issued.  nod.gif and it is useless as  it is not accurate and wastage. When you are in combat perhaps in th range of 50-250m a rapid fire is the best. (Using small arm). In close combat that weapon is too heavy and perhaps a short barrel and lighter weapon is much better.  This magazine definitely have more jammed issues.

This is a copy of the obselete russian assault riffle BTW this weapon is only use by the Gila NK presidential guard.  wink.gif  wink.gif  wink.gif who can argue with him lol
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post Apr 20 2017, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Apr 20 2017, 02:52 PM)
Probably not that of a good idea to use the An-2 for mass paradrops nowadays, but for covert infiltration of special agents or small commando teams, I would still consider using these types of planes before the much more detectable helicopters or modern transport planes. The An-2's ability to land and take off from very crude landing strips or even open fields is a plus as it can also be used for exfiltration purposes.

Besides, an expert pilot with good intelligence sources can always find and exploit small gaps in the most secure of air defence systems. Natural atmospheric and geological occurences like thunderstorms or the sun's heat convection off the earth's surface can sometimes mess with the most sensitive electronic systems.

I have also heard stories during the cold war of skilled Soviet pilots turning off the engines of their An-2's mid-flight, to further avoid detection on infiltration/exfiltration missions across NATO borders and glide silently for up to 20-30 miles at treetop level with the engine off.  ohmy.gif
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this isnt new, i remember British used to paradrop troops behind enemy lines silently by using gliders

reminds me alot of COD1 Pegasus Bridge mission, insertion by silent gliding
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Apr 20 2017, 02:52 PM)
Probably not that of a good idea to use the An-2 for mass paradrops nowadays, but for covert infiltration of special agents or small commando teams, I would still consider using these types of planes before the much more detectable helicopters or modern transport planes. The An-2's ability to land and take off from very crude landing strips or even open fields is a plus as it can also be used for exfiltration purposes.

Besides, an expert pilot with good intelligence sources can always find and exploit small gaps in the most secure of air defence systems. Natural atmospheric and geological occurences like thunderstorms or the sun's heat convection off the earth's surface can sometimes mess with the most sensitive electronic systems.

I have also heard stories during the cold war of skilled Soviet pilots turning off the engines of their An-2's mid-flight, to further avoid detection on infiltration/exfiltration missions across NATO borders and glide silently for up to 20-30 miles at treetop level with the engine off.  ohmy.gif
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That would be a huge gamble to play on depending on on side electronic failure.
it was not an easy job to infiltrate and goes into behind enemy line using such strategy on heavily defended border.
It requires strong signit capability and top class intelligent capability to do it.
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Quad A 2017: AH-64E becomes army’s guardian

19th April 2017 - 13:00 by Jim Dorschner in Washington DC

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The US Army is well on its way in fielding new-build versions of the latest iterations of its AH-64 Apache attack helicopter.

In April 2016, Boeing concluded a contract with the US Army to remanufacture 117 AH-64D Apaches to the latest, more capable AH-64E Guardian standard at its Mesa production centre, along with acquisition of Longbow Crew Trainers, logistical support and spares. Total contract value is about $1.5 billion.

Overall, the army plans to acquire 690 AH-64E Apaches, 290 of which are now under contract.

In January, Boeing officials confirmed that the company had already delivered 15 new-build and 155 remanufactured Guardians to the army.

McDonnell Douglas and Boeing have produced more than 2,200 Apaches since the first AH-64A joined the army in January 1984, with deliveries continuing to the US Army and 11 other customers around the world.

With the AH-64E fleet reasonably expected to remain on duty with the army into the 2030s or 2040s, the lifecycle of the aircraft is likely to exceed 50 years.

The AH-64E represents a quantum leap in capability for the Apache, reflecting the latest technology trends, particularly in the realm of secure digital data connectivity through the joint tactical information distribution system, improved sensors, advanced aerodynamics and integration with unmanned platforms.


Read more: https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/rotorhub...armys-guardian/


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QUOTE(marfccy @ Apr 20 2017, 05:43 PM)
this isnt new, i remember British used to paradrop troops behind enemy lines silently by using gliders

reminds me alot of COD1 Pegasus Bridge mission, insertion by silent gliding
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Comparing using lightweight gliders released from high altitude on controlled descent would probably be peanuts compared to gliding a heavier biplane at treetop altitude in the middle of the night.

A more fitting comparison will be the RAF flying in wood-and-fabric Lysander planes by night to drop off or extract OSS and SOE agents operating behind German lines in WW2.

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UAE concludes joint military exercise with Malaysia

A military exercise in Abu Dhabi between UAE and Malaysian ground forces, Desert Tiger 4, ended on Thursday.

The Desert Tiger series is an annual joint exercise between the two countries to highlight professionalism and efficiency of UAE Ground Forces troops and to raise their level of combat readiness.

Maj Gen Saleh Al Amiri, Commander of UAE Ground Forces, attended the military exercise along with General Dato’ Sri Zulkiple bin Hj Kassim, Malaysian army chief.

Desert Tiger 4 comes part of the UAE leadership’s continued desire to support and create distinguished partnerships between UAE and Malaysia.

Another aim is to promote mutual cooperation and achieve a common vision by sharing experiences, enhancing joint military actions, and raising the level of performance and combat efficiency.

The exercise also trains ground forces on the use of modern weapons for all types of combat operations.

The UAE Ground Forces have been drafting training plans for their personnel. The Desert Tiger 4 exercise highlighted the success of these plans, Wam said.

http://www.thenational.ae/uae/government/u...e-with-malaysia
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China Coast Guard 3062 ship sank in collision with bulk carrier Yue Dian 57 in Guangzhou

China Coast Guard 3062 ship sank in collision with bulk carrier Yue Dian 57 at Lingding channel in Guangzhou Port. The bulk carrier was departing from the port bound for Tianjin under ballast, when laid of crossing routes with the coast guard vessel. The both vessel collided, which cause capsizing and sinking of the 40-meters China Marine Police 3062 ship. All the eight police officers on board of the vessels fell into the water, but Guangzhou Maritime Rescue Center coordinated local fishermen to join the SAR operations, who managed to save the eight crew. All were accounted and did not suffered serious injuries.
http://www.maritimeherald.com/2017/china-m...7-in-guangzhou/

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Singapore To Upgrade Boeing Apache Choppers With New Mission Systems

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Singapore To Upgrade Boeing AH-64D Apache Choppers With New Mission Systems

The Republic of Singapore Air Force is upgrading its fleet of 20 Boeing AH-64D Apache Longbow helicopters with new mission systems to enhance the helicopter's survivability and improve its mission capability.

The upgrading programme involves equipping the AH-64D with a Helicopter Integrated Electronic Warfare System (HIEWS) to enhance survivability and SATCOM for more robust communications, Singapore Government issued a press statement today.

The upgrading programme is expected to complete over the next few years, the statement added.

According to Shephard Media, a Boeing AH-64D Apache Longbow featuring numerous modifications was recently spotted on an evening training flight in Singapore. The report says the latest helicopter design is similar to the Israel Defense Forces AH-64D-I Saraf.


http://www.defenseworld.net/news/19063/Sin...ms#.WPmlb7glFdg

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MMEA conducts trials of Fulmar UAV from first-of-class NGPC

Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - IHS Jane's Navy International
20 April 2017

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The Fulmar UAV, seen here mounted on KM Bagan Datuk, at the LIMA 2017 exhibition in Langkawi. Source: IHS Markit/Michele Capeleto

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* The Malaysia Maritime Enforcement Agency has successfully completed first at-sea trials of the Fulmar UAV system
* The service is on track to operationalise its first UAV-capable patrol vessel in 2017

The Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) has conducted at-sea trials of the Thales Fulmar fixed-wing unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) from the first of its New Generation Patrol Craft (NGPC), a service official confirmed with Jane's on 20 April.

The trials, which were conducted from KM Bagan Datuk (4541), took place over a period of about two weeks in early April 2017. Procedures that were conducted in the trials included launching and recovering the UAV under various ship operational conditions and wind speed, and training its crew in procedures to retrieve the UAV from the water should there be a failure in onboard recovery efforts.

The NGPC platform features a 3.5 m by 0.5 m catapult based launcher, situated just behind the position of its primary weapon - the SMASH 30 mm remote controlled stabilised naval gun system from Turkish defence company Aselsan. To retrieve the fixed wing UAV under normal operating conditions, the NGPC utilises a net-based impact-absorbing system deployed on the deck behind the bridge.


Read more: http://www.janes.com/article/69694/mmea-co...t-of-class-ngpc
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is that Leclerc at the back?BMP3?
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