Condominium Maintenance Fees
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 Mar 10 2017, 04:18 PM
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This is not new matter. If you read Strata Act 1985, it states that maintenance fee calculation must based on share unit. If your car park treated as accessory parcel to your unit, you are liable to pay maintenance fee based to your share units.
You can ask yr parcel COB the correct formula to charge maintenance fee i.e built-up area or share unit. |
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Mar 10 2017, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(jinsailoo @ Mar 10 2017, 03:43 PM) Erm...... if one car park lot is 12sf, if the maintenance fees is 0.33 psf then one carpark will charge RM3.96 each month which is not much big deal  QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Mar 10 2017, 04:07 PM) 12 square meter is not 12 square feet lol   Maintenance fees will be charged based on meter square also, which is equivalent to aprox RM3/msq (RM0.33/sft) |
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Mar 10 2017, 04:44 PM
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parking space is accessories parcel right..i think its quite fair ruling lar coz before this only cater to only ur parcel(condo) only. parking space (accessory parcel) go a certain percentage only..its not counted as full like parcel so by right with more AP your share units is also increased mahh..fair and square coz u own more of the strata area..lol
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Mar 10 2017, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Mar 10 2017, 04:12 PM) This. Cannot lah, u need to submit borang 15 to COB to approve before any additional fee to collect. Just like the 1st AGM meeting 1st things is get approve on the fee to be collect 2nd is form JMB. Than all the things that been approved in 1st AGM hav to submit to COB for approve before it can be enforce. After that only JMB can manage the building like set rules collect maintenance fee.The maintenance fee are already included all the common areas, which including parking area. If JMB is in charge, it would need approva/votel of the parcel owners before they can charge maintenance fees including parking. Fortunately for my place all the owners disagree for the charges, however it doesnt mean management may not increase the fee/spf no? Same go back to the SnP and DMC. if Both doc mentioned fee calculate base included parking than include lol, if not cannot included. Even JMB also cannot must by AGM and get COB approve. if u are not happy on the reuslt of AGM u can write in to COB also. |
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Mar 10 2017, 04:46 PM
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Maintenance fee got addition gst ?
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Mar 10 2017, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(Fortezan @ Mar 10 2017, 03:14 PM) Yup, same here, I was also just made aware during our recent AGM that the maintenance fees moving forward will include car park lot as well. Bad news for those who owns too many car parks. Makes sense. More car parks = more maintenance. Lighting, Workers to sweep the car parks, Repainting all cost money. |
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Mar 14 2017, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(jinsailoo @ Mar 10 2017, 04:43 PM) Erm...... should be 120sf x 0.33 = RM39.6 for 1 car parkif one car park lot is 12sf, if the maintenance fees is 0.33 psf then one carpark will charge RM3.96 each month which is not much big deal |
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Mar 28 2017, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(ma3da @ Mar 10 2017, 10:34 AM) Maintenance Fees I just get my SNP copy, inside mention maintenance fees include car park..I realized that the government has changed the maintenance fees structure. I went to the management office yesterday and they informed me that in my next month bill i need to pay for my parking lot maintenance fees as well. Those day the condominium maintenance fees was calculated based on your house built up area but now i have to pay for my parking lot maintenance fees as well. If i have 5 lots i have to pay all 5 lots. Can any sifu/simo can verify if this is truth. If not i will shoot my management office officer How about your side?? |
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Mar 29 2017, 12:57 PM
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Guys I have a question.
My condo's maintenance fee varies from 19 sen psf to 22 sen psf. How come got different different rate one? Is this normal? |
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Mar 30 2017, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(HMMaster @ Mar 10 2017, 01:22 PM) Any link to this announcement by the government? https://www.hba.org.my/articles/iprop/2007-bcp-1.htmQUOTE Allocated Share units Sections 8(1)(a) and 23(2) requires that contributions for maintenance and management charges be collected in proportion to the “allocated share units”. The “allocated share units” is defined in this Act as “share units to be assigned to each parcel by a developer’s licensed land surveyor”. Malaysians are so used to the practice of contributions for common funds & expenses (maintenance charges, sinking fund, insurance premium, quit rent) according to rates like 20 sen per square foot, that it will take a while for these share units allocation to be a common term. Holders of strata titles would be familiar with the term as the share units are stated in the titles. Purchasers of units in strata development after the 1st December, 2002 would also have indication of the allocated share units in Schedule 5 of their Schedule H – the regulated sale and purchase agreement under the Housing Development (Control and Licensing) Regulations, 1989. http://www.kptg.gov.my/sites/default/files...0318-STRATA.pdf QUOTE Share unit entitlements 36. The value of each parcel, except in the case of an accessory parcel where no share value shall be allotted, shown in the schedule of share units shall be taken as the share unit entitlement, and in the case of a provisional block the value shall be taken as the provisional share unit entitlement. The share units of a parcel or the provisional share units in the case of a provisional block as specified in the strata title or in the provisional strata title, as the case may be, shall determine— (a) the voting rights of the proprietors; (b) the quantum of the undivided share of each proprietor in the common property; and © the proportion payable by each proprietor of the contribution levied by the management corporation pursuant to section 45, 63, or 66. This post has been edited by cherroy: Mar 30 2017, 05:51 PM |
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Mar 30 2017, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(ma3da @ Mar 10 2017, 10:34 AM) Maintenance Fees not aware of thatI realized that the government has changed the maintenance fees structure. I went to the management office yesterday and they informed me that in my next month bill i need to pay for my parking lot maintenance fees as well. Those day the condominium maintenance fees was calculated based on your house built up area but now i have to pay for my parking lot maintenance fees as well. If i have 5 lots i have to pay all 5 lots. Can any sifu/simo can verify if this is truth. If not i will shoot my management office officer |
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Mar 30 2017, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(danielisme @ Mar 10 2017, 04:46 PM) Maintenance fee got addition gst ? if revenue less than 500K a year then no need http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2015...sidents-warned/ |
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Mar 30 2017, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Mar 29 2017, 12:57 PM) Guys I have a question. never heard such...ask ur mgmt office why such laMy condo's maintenance fee varies from 19 sen psf to 22 sen psf. How come got different different rate one? Is this normal? |
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Mar 31 2017, 05:34 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Yes, car park also need to pay maintenance due to the revised strata management act |
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Apr 3 2017, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(hanhanhan @ Mar 31 2017, 06:34 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Yes, car park also need to pay maintenance due to the revised strata management act The thing is there is a lot of building management did not fully performance their duties. Such as never ever proper maintaining the condo. Example my condo sauna rooms were stop functioning like 2 years ago and the gym equipment are terrible. Pay for lobster you only get dry shrimp. |
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Apr 3 2017, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(ma3da @ Apr 3 2017, 11:49 AM) I just paid the adjusted maintenance fees. Pain in the ass. It is your duty to pay for it regardless whether management do their part or not.The thing is there is a lot of building management did not fully performance their duties. Such as never ever proper maintaining the condo. Example my condo sauna rooms were stop functioning like 2 years ago and the gym equipment are terrible. Pay for lobster you only get dry shrimp. Its 3rd world mentality to justify not paying because they do not do their job. If u are not satisfied then by all means change the PIC. But if its not JBM then too bad cant do anything. Last but not least you can always MOVE. Having 5 parking lots i believe you are doing probably quite well, or big family. Can consider landed house  |
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Apr 3 2017, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Apr 3 2017, 12:57 PM) It is your duty to pay for it regardless whether management do their part or not. I don't know where you got the fact that I own 5 parking lots. I was just giving example. Its 3rd world mentality to justify not paying because they do not do their job. If u are not satisfied then by all means change the PIC. But if its not JBM then too bad cant do anything. Last but not least you can always MOVE. Having 5 parking lots i believe you are doing probably quite well, or big family. Can consider landed house Change the PIC again i don't own the whole condo it is not up to me only to change the management. Lastly to move to else where? where to? Do you know how much a property now around klang valley and of course I'm not wealthy compare to you since you are doing your own business. I considered myself lucky since i got a place to stay Madam I hope you do not accuse others without getting your facts right. Did i said I'm not willing to pay the management? no right. so why don't you show some respect before others disrespect you This post has been edited by ma3da: Apr 3 2017, 11:17 PM |
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Apr 3 2017, 04:01 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « if you really want to take legal action against the JMB you can, for failing to carry out their duties (eg failing to fix sauna or any other thing). Just make sure you document your written notice to ask them to rectify whatever things (with acknowledge receipt etc). you and a bunch of other residents can team up and put a joint claim against them, share legal fees etc. heck, maybe even a letter of demand from lawyer may compel them to do their job already. it's no use complaining while not finding out proper avenues to remedy the situation. |
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Apr 4 2017, 12:50 PM
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this is our mentality...if things dont work at ur will then move ....move where? and what makes u think all new high rise will be better? u move to new condo, probably, best for 5 yrs all look new and nice...after that u keep moving to new condo every 5 yrs if maintenance sucks?
if its newly built and no strata yet then its under JMB means managed by developer after built....if got strata then form a MC via AGM or EGM (yes it take time and effort to spend ur time for betterment of ur condo.)....elected MC then can choose which property management company to manage their condo MC has full power on property mgmt co and all sub vendors...lift, cleaners, pool, sauna, security etc... i knw the pain coz i am on MC now....if need any assitance/guidelines then pm me..i will help to point to right direction..but again dont take my word alone...follow strata act Remember : MC, property company, service providers and residents are the core for condo management success |
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Oct 19 2017, 09:48 AM
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if some of the facilities not functioning, doesnt means the mgt dont do the job. u think its better to repair sauna or to repair the lift, the important facility is the priority.
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