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TSwengherng
post May 29 2017, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ May 29 2017, 02:16 AM)
USDt is always 1:1 to US dollar. Tested and confirmed.
Check with their support.
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No, it's not always 1:1.
It usually (and very easily) swings a couple of percent each way.
Just like recently when it dropped to as low as USD 0.92.

QUOTE(sirxl @ May 29 2017, 08:05 AM)
Don't use localbitcoins and xbit asia (only for weekdays),
bad reviews all over my groups.

See below, I have over 2000 people in my telegram groups.
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I personally use Xbit Asia and have never encountered any problems at all.
Yes they're not available on weekends, and the spread is not always the best due to lower liquidity, but other than that I don't have any issues with them.

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post May 30 2017, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(luotang @ May 29 2017, 09:27 PM)
Where is the moderator?
So I suppose this thread is long enough open V3.
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There's no moderator in this thread, so I took the liberty to create this v2 thread.
I'm not sure if there's any regulation on the maximum page or post count for a thread, since I see some threads go on for hundreds of pages.
I'm going to throw an arbitrary number here...... once this thread reaches 250 pages, I'll start v3.
Everybody OK with that?

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post Jun 1 2017, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(Enigmatic @ Jun 1 2017, 01:39 AM)
And I have yet to touch base on the use cases of other coins (e.g. Ripple for fast cross border transfers or Ethereum for smart contracts), and the blockchain as a whole (in which a public ledger requiring incentivization to ensure security of the blockchain hence the introduction of minable returns). But I'll leave that aside for another time.
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Lowyat forum website was experiencing technical issues and I was not able to log in at all over the past few days.
I read back the previous posts and originally wanted to reply, but you guys already gave a brilliant reply.
Kudos guys.

QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 1 2017, 07:44 AM)
Ahhhh... and I thought we want to have some intelligent discussion. So you're saying gold has no inherent value and only for speculation? Scam too right? For your information, gold reserve in this world is 170,000,000 kg with an estimated value in trillions. And that's only talking about gold. I guess you will cry scam for a lot of things...... that would be a bitter life to live......

Makes me think of a guy running into an art auction house screaming "SCAM" because a painting was sold for 50 million. Good, I don't have to waste time with you.
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Exactly mate...... you took the words right out of my mouth.

QUOTE(blueblueoutofblue @ Jun 1 2017, 03:22 PM)
because... bitcoin sell higher there...

example current market price : 2396
indo bitcoin exchange : 2709

i gain from the different  cool2.gif
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Good for you!
That's called arbitrage.
Some people can actually make a living doing this.


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post Jun 4 2017, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(puremage111 @ Jun 4 2017, 01:24 PM)
Previously i used Localbitcoin to buy btc

And recently i found out Luno, which is previously bitx

I wanted to buy btc from Luno

But i am not sure if they are trusted

I Am finding Luno-liked exchange where we don't trade peer2peer but instead you cash in, trade in on exchange

Is there any other similar liked and trustable exchange?
Or i can proceed with Luno

Thank you
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Yes there is.
Xbit Asia is another rather popular online exchange for Malaysians.
Check out the first page for more information.

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post Jun 5 2017, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 5 2017, 09:11 AM)
Some good info in there. smile.gif
Yeah, that's why I'm still in altcoins due to multiplier effect.  Just reserving a bit of bitcoins for the next red wave.

ETH 243, marching on. 300 u sell? tongue.gif
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Our man WooTz said earlier......once ETH reaches USD 300, he will retire.
And our friend here is not even 30 yet this year!

By comparison, to do the same, I need ETH to reach USD 5000...... sad.gif
Who knows, it might even be possible in due time!
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post Jun 5 2017, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(archangel22 @ Jun 5 2017, 09:48 AM)
Bitcoin is not an investment. Theres no prospectus.
But I think many people may have misinterpreted white paper as prospectus (altcoins, ICOs).
I get that Eth might get as popular as Bitcoin, as someone or a corporate willing to fund Eth marketing.

But Bitcoin, on the other hand, is not a company. No one advertised Bitcoin. Govts and mainstream media have tried to 'kill' Bitcoin for 129 times
http://www.internationalman.com/articles/t...k-even-stronger

Im no trader but hey, no harm investing on ETH, if you believe in it. It is indeed investing in a company shares. At some point, whats going up so fast will come down even harder, just dont forget to sell when you make enough profit.

Have more Bitcoin = more money/wealth.
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Personally, I have no particular love for any particular cryptocurrency.
I put my money into whichever vehicle that can help me reach my ultimate objective of adequately and sufficiently providing for my family and hopefully retiring early.
In the current scenario, I have both BTC and ETH, because I honestly believe in the actual use cases of both of them.

QUOTE(chonghe @ Jun 5 2017, 09:55 AM)
What is your condition for retirement?  hmm.gif
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I have a specific number in mind, after taking into consideration my current income and expenditure, my projected cost for children's education, family obligations, etc.
Actually, come to think of it, the number should be lower, since I did not account for my holdings in other coins. If Bitcoin goes ballistic as many experts predicted, I might be able to retire hopefully within the next 10 years? (All these talks about bitcoin reaching USD 100,000 and all)

QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 5 2017, 09:57 AM)
Aha, can calculate how much you have. tongue.gif

Say, are you starting a new thread soon? I'm actually on vacation so won't be able to help out until
Saturday. Let's make the new thread a proper one and we can request goldfries to see whether it can be pinned. smile.gif
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Whatever I have will definitely be much much lower than your holdings, because I was "kiasi" and did not listen to you when you were buying all the various altcoins earlier which have skyrocketed several thousand percent profit...... cry.gif

I was thinking of opening the new thread once it reaches 250 pages, but not to worry, I think we can wait till you're back (actually I just came back from vacation myself).
What I'll do is, I will open the thread with a few "reserved" empty posts on the first page, and then we can populate them in the same manner we did with this thread. Sounds OK to you?

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post Jun 5 2017, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(CharmaineLee80 @ Jun 5 2017, 10:41 AM)
Guys,
ETH still OK to go in?

I went in at usd145, then i sold about 185. It slams a bit weeks.
Now it is ~ usd245. Still OK to go?
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Depends on what your objectives are.
Short term trading for profit? Or mid to long term holding?
Many of us here believe that there is still a lot of upside potential for ETH.
I personally see USD 300 - 350 in the coming months, easy.

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post Jun 5 2017, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Jun 4 2017, 07:16 PM)
guys

question

let say bitcoin from 2200 usd went to 2800 usd

vs

eth that gain 60%

which is higher apreciation??
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Of course 60% gain is higher.
From USD 2,200 to USD 2,800 (USD 600 gain) is only a 27% increase.

Or did I misunderstand your question?

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post Jun 5 2017, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(spikyz @ Jun 5 2017, 12:10 PM)
Let me add, u know already im looking for RX 570 and 580. yet u still say its available. T"A TON OF RX5770/580 still available" a ton! wow. then u wanna pusing said use other 2.5-4k GPU. lol. such a funny guy.
u even advised ppl against using 4k GPU? yet u still recommend 4k gpu, lol. u need 6 of those my frens. lol.
Such a funny guy Mr. Zaman. i sense full of crappy talk
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 5 2017, 05:49 PM)
put forth an intelligent disucssion. marking other people shIt and shoving your ideology is not a way to move forward.
don't be a retard, the whole chain was about NO GPU available.
Be specific, what GPU, what model etc. No, you need to be hero and claim victim

who want to use 3K GPU? a lot of people. they are not poor, unlike you.

Kesian. I feel sorry for you being retard. Have a nice day.
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Hey guys......I'm not a moderator and have no particular rights here.
But come on mates, let's all just take a minute and chill it down a couple of degrees, OK?

We're all here because we love cryptocurrencies and want to make money from our investments, and help each other along the way.

Let's just put the past behind us, no matter what he or she or whoever said, no matter who started it, no matter who called who names first......let's cut the back and forth retorts, take a deep breath, smile, and move on, shall we?
Let's be the better person here.
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(P/S: If anyone is the retard, it has got to be me......because I was too afraid to jump onto the altcoins bandwagon back in January/February, which if I did, I would have been able to retire right about now......don't remind me.)


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QUOTE(kbandito @ Jun 5 2017, 06:13 PM)
I only sent a ~$50 worth of BTC without keying in any miner fees. Will it ever get transferred?
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It will go through, eventually.
However, WHEN depends entirely on how congested the system is.
I once had a similar problem about 2 months ago (too low transaction fee) and my bitcoin was stuck floating in limbo for 9 days before it appeared in my Poloniex account.
But most times it takes 1 - 2 hours.

But don't worry, your coins are not lost.
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QUOTE(mois @ Jun 6 2017, 09:34 AM)
I wonder how many here stick with 10-20% allocation on cryto? After see all the bullrun, must be somebody start allocate 70-80%?
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Technically speaking, you COULD do that, but it would be rather risky.
Cryptocurrencies are in it's infancy growing phase, with very high volatility.
If your remaining 20% would be able to last you for 6 months or more in the event of any unforeseen circumstances, then I suppose you could consider putting 80% into cryptocurrencies.

But for those who got in early, the recent incredible growth rate itself would have likely skewed their original allocation by now.

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QUOTE(raynman @ Jun 6 2017, 11:01 AM)
Just for good measure, I have also uploaded a PDF of my latest TNB bill.

They now have BOTH my bank statement and my TNB bill.

I hope that is enough for verification level 3 clearance.  smile.gif
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I processed my Luno account verification during the days when it was still BitX.
Gave them a copy of my TNB bill in PDF format and my account was verified to Level 3 within one day.

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QUOTE(Wind82 @ Jun 6 2017, 11:20 AM)
Hi guys,

Wanna ask whats the safest and legal way to convert cryptocurrencies back to RM?

There're are only guides to buy but not sell in the first page.

Thanks ya!
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The process is exactly the same as buying but in reverse.
Convert to bitcoin, send to Luno or Xbit Asia, then sell and withdraw in Ringgit Malaysia.

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post Jun 6 2017, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 6 2017, 11:03 AM)
Whoopeee!!! Mega sale coming! Going to start picking up a few soon. This time I'm ready!!!! rclxm9.gif
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You're incredible.
You seem to always have an unlimited amount of cash flow to keep buying altcoins.

QUOTE(Chelsea-Fan @ Jun 6 2017, 11:47 AM)
Coins red is because bitcoins appreciate in price. But when you see the usd value of the altcoins remain the same.

Because if i were to buy expensive bitcoins now to exchange more altcoins is same as if i buy cheaper bitcoins yesterday to get less altcoins.

Hope someone can clarify futher.

You will only profit if you keep the bitcoins bought during cheaper period. So your profit is actually based on your bitcoin appreciation.
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You're right, that is true under normal circumstances.
However, during abnormal spikes and dips, FUD causes the masses to transfer their wealth around within the cryptocurrency sphere.
For example, when bitcoin spikes, a paired altcoin should go down in the same percentage, but because many weak investors try to ride the wave, they start selling the altcoin and move the money to bitcoin, which causes the market cap of bitcoin to go up and the market cap of the altcoin to go down.
This imbalance is the mega sales opportunity that the sifus here are talking about.

That's why it's so important to do a fiat comparison before you put your money into any coin, so you know whether fresh money is coming in or out of the coin.
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QUOTE(Chelsea-Fan @ Jun 6 2017, 12:43 PM)
Noted, very good analysis.

The situation can be vice versa if bitcoin drop?
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Yes, exactly.
Also, just to throw a wrench into the equation, you have to keep an eye on the overall market cap of all cryptocurrencies in general.
That is the best indicator of whether fresh money is being pumped in.

QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 6 2017, 12:58 PM)
No la. Past one month I only bought BTC once and had to patiently wait for the Red Sea. Also sold off some to accumulate BTC when everything green. It is a recurring cycle that so far has never failed to happen. Just have to be patient and hold down itchy hands especially when everything green.

I'm probably not going to pump in more cash anytime soon. The cash I put in is probably my limit that I'm comfortable with. Also because I can't transfer out my altcoins from exchange due to no hardware support. Thx to rising altcoins, just letting my altcoins "auto-cruise" and cashing out a bit hopefully at the top to buy again hopefully near the bottom.

Edit : ETH at 250!!!
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And I noticed that the overall market cap just breached USD 100 billion today.
Exciting times.
I'm not quitting my day job yet, but I sense that my ship will be coming in soon, in the near future! biggrin.gif

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post Jun 6 2017, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(Wind82 @ Jun 6 2017, 02:01 PM)
Bitcoin is reaching all time high.

You guys think it's still ok to go in now?

Feels like buying a few bitcoin for investment.
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Personally, I believe yes.
But I also recommend spreading your investment slightly and get some ETH.


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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jun 6 2017, 02:38 PM)
I've tried signing up for a Luno account many times last night but I could never get the email confirmation at all... sad.gif
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Contact their support.
I just logged in and I didn't observe any issues.

On a separate note......I noticed quite a large difference in buy/sell spread between Luno and XBit Asia.
Just looking at face value, it seems Luno's prices are much better for buying bitcoin compared to XBit Asia.
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 6 2017, 03:12 PM)
Wow wow wow! So fast already 100B!!??!

I don't know why need to quit job. Just treat the job like a side income lor.... biggrin.gif
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Hehe, true also.
But life is too short to be slaving myself away in a cubicle.
I would like to travel the world more.
I still have a few places on my bucket list that I want to visit.

QUOTE(shahrul09 @ Jun 6 2017, 03:34 PM)
Idk why you guys want to open thread in /k
No usefull input. Just bringing few fomo ppl and some fud here and there
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Sorry, what is /k?

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post Jun 6 2017, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(shahrul09 @ Jun 6 2017, 03:49 PM)
OK thanks......just read a few of the posts there.
I do not like the tone of discussion there......seems there are some rather angry people around.
Prefer the more supportive and helpful environment in this thread. smile.gif

We don't always have to agree with each other, and it's OK not to be friends with everyone.
But at least we have to respect the fact that everyone has their own opinions and mindsets.
Name-calling doesn't help anyone, and just annoys everybody while reflecting badly on our own upbringing.

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QUOTE(hjffgjng @ Jun 6 2017, 04:37 PM)
i cant help myself

become angry redy... bangwall.gif
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Chill mate.
All we can do is to spread the word, and hopefully can give enough information to let the other party make up their own minds.
We cannot force someone to see what we see.
In time, they'll see.

Remember that when automobiles were first invented, a lot of "experts" condemned the invention, claiming that it was a fad that would die off, and that such "extreme" speeds (some automobiles could go up to 20 miles per hour!) would be hazardous to the human body.
They said the same when the first airplanes were invented.
Skepticism is nothing new.


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