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post Aug 2 2021, 11:44 AM

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Sharing Version 2.0 of Avanza Alignment specification.

Its Preferred Camber is -00°30' (negative) and differs from +00°30' of Ver 1.0 .

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post Aug 3 2021, 07:02 AM

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QUOTE(butthead76 @ Aug 3 2021, 06:01 AM)
Other day I saw mine at tyre shop like 15'.
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Negative or positive camber ?

Last December I did -15' camber at both front tyres and it was a big improvement in cornering compared to prior alignment which I speculate to be a positive camber.

Left Front toe-in was +7' and RF was +5'. With hands off the steering wheel, the car drifts and veers to the left slightly.

Nice and steady straight ahead driving but 6 months later now I find turning right requires more effort to steer than turning left. Suspecting front toes too high?

What's your front toes?

Unfortunately I didn't have camber and toes for Rear which may help to explain car drifts left problem with hands off the steering wheel.

Do you have yours ? If yes, what are the numbers.
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post Aug 3 2021, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Aug 3 2021, 09:12 AM)
rear affects direction whenever height is changing. try carry heavvy at back VS carry empty
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I did that with 'extra' weights at the rear of my Hilux and Prado , then it was a lot lot more steady in driving straight and steering.

Have anyone tried this method with Avanza, and whether it works ?
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post Aug 7 2021, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(butthead76 @ Aug 7 2021, 07:28 AM)
-15'. I wanted to take photo, suddenly tyre shop finish it. HHAHAHA...didn't see other settings. Anyway now hardly drive. about 15th Apr to 7th Aug only like 500km mileage.

Yesterday sat in wife new avanza, make me dizzy only. damn sioft the suspension. I came back, stand at side, 1 hand lean on center side. So easy to tilt. Then I go try at my old avanza, can feel need to force to lean against it. I think the Kayaba RS is stiffer with the harder springs.
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Thanks.

Wife's Avanza is new? How many kms or months so far?
I ask about 'age' of your new Avanza is because gathering from what I have read online thus far, it is quite common for wheel alignments of brand new cars to be 'less than ideal' possibly causing the car to veer or drift to one side with hands off the steering wheel or steering wheel points to one side on straight ahead driving, never mind the fact the alignment print-out may be all green.

If a 'new' car were to visit SC at very low mileage of x km odometer (or within x months) say, on complaints of car drifting to one side etc, it would be free for owner as it is covered under warranty claim period.
Now, what is x for local Toyota for warranty purpose? IDK. It would be nice if anybody here could enlighten us.

Simultaneously, you get to demand a copy of re-alignment print-outs for your safe keeping. For all we know, sometimes this print-out/results may later on, possibly explain some weird 'behaviours' of its suspension/handling in times to come, if one ever occurs.

A relative of mine is getting a new Camry Hybrid soon. I will remind him to try find 'faults' with its handling like drifting to one side or unsteady/nervous steering etc .............
and claim free warranty say within 500 km and gets to obtain a print-out of its wheel alignment results for safe keeping and reference in future.

On your 'old' Avanza Front cambers of -15', I think it maybe a good results in giving you better cornering/turning experience as compared to those Avanza's on positive camber . Sometimes I suspect your 'dizzyness' in your wife's new Avanza may have something to do with installed factory cambers of +30' ± , who knows.

Your method of 1 hand lean on centre side ..... sounds interesting to me. I would do one on my Avanza of known alignment angles and see how it feels ..........

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post Aug 10 2021, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(butthead76 @ Aug 8 2021, 09:13 AM)
New avanza for around 4 yrs ownership, 25k km...hahahah. You mentioned the allignment matter u need to go a good shop. So far found 2 at my place and 1 at PJ. These are my usual shop. The drifting to 1 side because the shop doesn't know how to do it properly.

My dizziness as I got motion sickness...hahahaha. Warranty over, so will be doing all tyre and maintaince outside. Cheaper.

1 hand push just a quick check on stability, if easy to rock n roll, then taking corners, bumps, etc will be dangerous. That's is why I dare to whack kaw kaw corner because I know my suspension is stiff. But remember to fit good tyres too.
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Mind sharing the locations of your 3 good shops and ranking in terms of quality of works, customer service in terms of listening/accomdating to car owners and pricing for the benefit of readers here living not far away.

Who knows I (and maybe some readers here) might visit them in times to come.

Come to think of it, your '1 hand push' might be a simple way of agak-agaking camber negativeness or positiveness of tyres on opposite side ? That would be very useful indeed.
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post Oct 17 2021, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(butthead76 @ Oct 17 2021, 08:30 AM)
Sound still there when I turn 90 degrees right. Minor steer no sound. Now I suspect possible the Steering Rack Tie rod end the ball joint KO.

Travel high speed no sound, tested on LDP. But like at traffic light turn right 90 degrees then sometimes got sound.

KYB RS front only like 38k km, Lower arm new, stabiliser link new, front roll bar bush new. Steering rack no leak. Steering no free play. I can't think of any other joint link other then the steering tie rod end.
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Something loose on your Front Left, should have been rectified/avoided after the recent suspension parts replacement job.
Stabilizer link assembly replaced?
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post Oct 19 2021, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Oct 18 2021, 10:48 AM)
after jack up, use hand shake the whole wheel
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With tyres off the ground, rocking the tyre(s) forth and back with hands at:
a )3 o'clock and 9 o'clock postions, slight play or looseness means tie rod ends has problem;
b )6 o'clock and 12 o'clock position, slight play or looseness means Lower (for Avanza)/Upper Control arms ball joints has problem.
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post Oct 19 2021, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Oct 19 2021, 11:57 AM)
do we need to rotate steering to one side or lock center
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Imo, that is not necessary and does not help or improve the chances/probability of 'correctly' identifying/detecting looseness at tie rod ends, if any exists.

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post Oct 21 2021, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(butthead76 @ Oct 21 2021, 07:51 AM)
Shake tyre, nothing moving. Solid.

Turn tyre to side, checking all joint all ok. Boot on steering tie rod ok. But I think passenger side think my workshop changed it, looks new.

Anyway, I give up. Let the noise come more frequently then troubleshoot again. Hard to detect now. I suspect possible absorber as already 38k. The last change 40k on absorber was weaken too.
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Let's hope it is not the pricier socket aka Steering Rack End Sub Assembly (PN 45503) as pictured below:
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post Nov 9 2021, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(butthead76 @ Nov 9 2021, 07:58 AM)
Ok update on my left side clonking sound.

Yesterday, workshop jack up both front wheel. Wiggle right side no movement. Left side very minor almost none detected. Workshop suspect either tie rod or rack end. Seems minor worn out.

Sound only can be heard when turn right over uneven road like in parking car ramp. I guess still ok to go....hahaha
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Unfortunately,

QUOTE(zeng @ Oct 21 2021, 11:45 AM)
Let's hope it is not the pricier socket aka Steering Rack End Sub Assembly (PN 45503) as pictured below:
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... is kind of confirm and inescapable.

Question is:

Can the pricier Steering Rack End Sub-Assy (PN 45503) on the Left be salvaged and reused.......
by replacing ONLY the cheaper price Cylinder End Stopper (PN 44275) ?

IDK, and would like to know.

Note: I don't think LHS tie rod end (PN 45046 or is it PN 45047?) requires replacement, but who knows in your case.

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post Dec 29 2021, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(butthead76 @ Dec 29 2021, 08:38 AM)
hhahah...bloody "clok" "clok" sounds is back....not as bad only....now I really given up, no idea where is the source....only when I steering and drive over uneven road.....

only thing left is the absorber, which is close to 50k km usage....
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Noise coming from loose stabilizer bar bushes and/or stabilizer links (which I thought you'd replaced them) and looseness from strut top rubber mounts?
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post Jan 20 2022, 11:56 AM

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Hi everybody, is API SJ or SL (or SM) engine oils being recommended for Gen 1 Avanzas according to manuals ?

Gen 2 should be SM or SN?
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post Jan 21 2022, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(butthead76 @ Jan 21 2022, 08:30 AM)
Go for SN. Doesn't matter which generation.
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Thanks for responding.
Maybe I should put my question clearer this way, what specific API SJ/SL/SM oils are mentioned in owners' manuals of Gen1 and Gen2.

API SN was launched in 2011 when Gen1 Avanza production was tailing off..
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post Mar 2 2022, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(butthead76 @ Mar 2 2022, 07:54 AM)
Yup, now I wandering need to change the top mount or not? only used 50k km. might change the boot since already 11yrs for the boot.

Anyone change starter before? what is the price range and OEM brand or denso?
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I didn't replace top mounts after 14 years/300k km. No problem for me.
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post Mar 23 2022, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(butthead76 @ Mar 23 2022, 08:20 AM)
Yesterday change all my absorbers Kayaba RS Ultra. Previously also Kayaba RS Ultra.

Front used 40k km, Bearing bush at the top also change. Reuse mounting after 40k km.
Rear used 76k km.
Labor rm100 excluding alignment.

After change my front seems better, still need to test.
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What are the reasons you change front RS again after 40k km?
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post Apr 28 2022, 12:22 AM

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Help needed on 2007 Avanza remote control (key fob?) not functioning i.e unable to unlock car doors.

Inside battery replaced with new one, also same not working.

Red flashing light below aircond/radio is blinking like normal.

What should I do next?


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Edit:
Problem fully resolved!

Thank you.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=104250778

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post Sep 2 2022, 06:17 PM

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My aircon not cold problem when moving at slow speed recently was overcome merely with aircon gas top-up.

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post Sep 3 2022, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Sep 2 2022, 06:17 PM)
My aircon not cold problem when moving at slow speed recently was overcome merely with aircon gas top-up.
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In the above thread on 2007 Avanza aircond gas topup, I was advised to check underhood on the weights (grams) of Refrigerant 134a and Compressor Oil table.

My underhood table is dirty, blur and can't read the numbers.

Can someone take a photo and upload here the exact weights recommended in the table by Toyota?

Upload of newer gen Avanza 2011-up weights table may be good for general reference for readers here too.
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post Feb 16 2024, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Feb 15 2024, 07:37 PM)
left strut top mount senget liao. happen ever since flying bump above 120kph at kuantan and return penang. december last year.
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Time to visit workshop liao..

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