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post Jan 6 2021, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(iverice @ Jan 6 2021, 06:44 PM)
i dint experience it while fast connwring either left or right,
the only time i felt that is if the there is bump or pothole in the middle of the corner, that will throw me off a lil bit when encounter.
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What you experience is the normal case , by right .It should be like this .
But now ,my cornering into left hand side is good and steady . But cornering into right hand side a bit shaky vis-a-vis the alignment I am getting now .

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post Jan 6 2021, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Jan 6 2021, 07:04 PM)
ur high speed turn issue. distance between tyre rubber to fender. empy space gap in between.
balance or not
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Oh, I get what you mean .
Tyre centre to foreward fender (horizontal) : LHS is 382.2 mm and RHS is 382.2 mm .Balanced .
Tyre centre to rearward fender :LHS is 386.2 mm and RHS is 392.2 mm .Unbalanced .
Front bumper had minor langgar backside of front car , not serious and car still drivable after minor accident .

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post Jan 6 2021, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Jan 6 2021, 09:27 PM)
suspect is lower arm un-equal geometry shape. alignment machine make correction to straight lane only.

nx time visit workshop. ask boss to jack up whole body and inspect from there.
can replace lower arm f not expensive
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Front sets of shock absorber, lower arm, stabiliser link, tie rod end and anti-roll bar bush set all had been replaced several weeks ago , as reported at bottom of Post #1 here .
So, it can't be unequal geometry .

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post Jan 7 2021, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Jan 6 2021, 11:44 PM)
takkan the strut tower top mount there damage ah
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Both strut tower top mounts were removed and reinstalled back .
So I think they are not damaged , IDK as I did not take a closer look at the top mount conditions in the midst of the suspension parts replacements job . blush.gif

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post Jan 8 2021, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Jan 7 2021, 11:39 AM)
last hope is steering components. becos front wheel have nothing else.
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The only parts not replaced in the current job is steering column and its bush , steering pump , rack and pinion steering set ,spring set , steering knuckle , strut top mount/bearing and inner tie rods .
All other parts in the Front suspension system had been replaced , if I got it right .

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post Jan 8 2021, 01:59 PM

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According to my Avanza wheel alignment screenshot whereby Camber +0° 30' is preferred by Toyota .

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Do any of you having not so smooth/steady steering wheel movement during taking right turn of left turn corners after completing wheel alignment jobs or when new ?

I felt steering wheel not smooth and not steady even though alignment Camber angles are within specification and green coloured . Any similar experience from Avanza drivers here ?

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post Jan 12 2021, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Jan 8 2021, 01:59 PM)
According to my Avanza wheel alignment screenshot whereby Camber +0° 30' is preferred by Toyota .

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Do any of you having not so smooth/steady steering wheel movement during taking right turn of left turn corners after completing wheel alignment jobs or when new ?

I felt steering wheel not smooth and not steady even though alignment Camber angles are within specification and green coloured . Any similar experience from Avanza drivers here ?
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Redo (foc) wheel alignment again , pulling left problem now is better than before ......
but steering wheel is not centred ..... ......
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post Jan 12 2021, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Jan 12 2021, 11:09 PM)
1 more guess. do u brake during turn. or step gas.

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btw my gear have funny acting when high rev. he want to shift up yet hang a while baru go. did urs happen ?
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I don't normally tekan brake during turning .
Previously some times release petrol pedal during turn as often feel steering not steady and firm .
Now , with known -ve camber and firm and steady steering wheel , I normally maintain or tekan fuel pedal .....
without pressing on brake pedal always .

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post Jan 13 2021, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Jan 13 2021, 04:33 PM)
who know the final gear ratio on vanza 1.3 1.5
indonesia got xenia, veloz that use 4.8 5.1 5.5 5.8 four types
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2007 Avanza 1.3L was said to be 5.5 .
1.5L was said to be 5.1 .
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post Mar 27 2021, 10:20 AM

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RS Ultra is strongly recommended...
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post Mar 31 2021, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 31 2021, 10:07 AM)
vanza (stock car) will oversteer at what speed ?
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I used to encounter severe understeer phenomenon with Avanza, only to realise Avanza's factory recommended wheel alignment specifications in a way promotes understeer, not so much of oversteer.
Having said this I did encounter oversteer once, several years ago on a rainy day.

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post Apr 1 2021, 06:41 PM

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Saved up enough to change to Greber which were much thicker compared to the performax. The feeling it gives me was that it was more planted as I drove it out of the workshop in Kepong. Loved that feeling


QUOTE(eniltoh @ Mar 31 2021, 05:48 PM)
I checked back a past post and noticed that I have typed the brand name wrongly because everytime I search for Greber, it seem to come out as red colour absorbers whereby mine is yellow. Last I noticed my shock absorbers are called Gabriel after checking further and confirmed the sticker location on the yellow absorber with the link below. Sorry ladies and gentlemen for the confusion all these while.

https://shopee.com.my/-1-Pcs-Gabriel-Caston...2771.5933341144

Bought from zhapalang motorsports in Kepong last time
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Did you try the Gabriel for front set and if so, any additional improvement ?
Gonna to give stiffer Gabriel a try when time comes.

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post Apr 11 2021, 09:28 AM

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By changing oil on time, what's your oil change interval and oil type?
Anyway, appreciate the update.

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post Apr 29 2021, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(iverice @ Apr 29 2021, 08:42 AM)
why u need to chg the lower arm?
any sound or symptom to share?
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Yeah, am keen to know why also.
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post May 2 2021, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(butthead76 @ May 2 2021, 05:58 AM)
From visual can see the bushing cracked. U can only see it when u remove the tyre. So check it when you do remove the tyre.

From driving, you hear a sound like "plup" when arm flex like going thru a bump. I was told if really bad during driving straight the car will not run straight. I not yet that severe yet, but I hear the "plup" sound and the handling feel not as solid.

I estimate another rm700 or so for the repair bill.
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My 13 yo factory lower arms were having 40-50 mm cracks on one side of both arms' bushes but no cracks on the other side of the bush.
He recommends it as good for continuing usage, which is in compliance with some OEMs' recommendations in manuals.
I replaced them anyway as most or all other suspension parts like absorber sets, tie rod ends, absorber stabilizer links, ball joint links, sway bar bushes etc were due and recommended for replacements .
Otherwise I would have kept them if not for the 'major' job in hand.
The pair of arms cost me about RM560 excluding labour.
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post May 5 2021, 07:33 AM

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QUOTE(butthead76 @ May 5 2021, 05:10 AM)
Price very reasonable. thanks for info. Need to ask my shop for lower arm price. OMG your lower arm rm560. why internet oem rm200 approx.....
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You could buy the parts ownself (online or from spare parts shops) saving some bucks and pay more for labour I suppose.
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post May 29 2021, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ May 29 2021, 01:45 PM)
zeng. do u measure ori roll bar diammeter.
front n back. i want to reduce it prolly source one from indon
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Oops, sorry I didn't.
May I know why you wanna to reduce both sizes ?

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post Jul 16 2021, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(butthead76 @ Jul 16 2021, 09:12 AM)
Now hopefully labor, balance and alignment around rm300

No point even get ori parts as now yearly less then 5000km travelled.
Parts likely arrived next week, so next week or following week install.
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Your online lower arm price is lower than what my workshop billed me.

Why the need for balancing, assuming reusing the front tyres ?

You surely need an alignment post repair where alignment angles are 'distorted'.

Appreciate if you would upload here an image of your 'After' alignment readings, to see if you are given factory front 'Preferred' positive camber of +00°15' which are lousy for cornering/turning.

If it was me, I'll specify to the shop a negative front camber. Currently I'm at -00°15' or thereabout.

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post Jul 19 2021, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(butthead76 @ Jul 18 2021, 08:04 AM)
Balancing was done before C19 until now...hahahah

Well, workshop doing for me not a tyre shop. So can't show you readings.

Now I consider should I bring to tyre shop to do this lower arm replacement instead of my normal workshop. He will probably markup a bit on tyre service bill.

Are you using the same lower arm brand SAIKO?
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Hi,

If it were me, I won't do further balancing unless steering wheel shakes (a little bit) at 130ish km/hr.

My mechanic did the replacements of RS Ultra front and rear and he actually advised against lower arm change with some 30 mm rubber cracks. Considering this set of original lower arms had served me over 300k km, I decided to have them replaced anyway to begin a new 'start'.

No, mine is not Saiko brand and I couldn't get 555 brand either.

Note:I did wheel alignment some 1 week after driving around 'hoping' for all joints/top mount/spring/absorber/bushes etc finally settles down..... not sure if it matters.

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post Jul 29 2021, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Confession @ Jul 29 2021, 07:55 AM)
There's knocking sound only when turning either left or right regardless of speed. Any idea what is the issue here?
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Lower arm gone case?

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